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#1508274 --- 11/06/17 01:14 PM GPD Chief Tickler tricks the system!
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Did GPD Lt. John Cataline live in the city and score just as high as Jeff Trickler on that particular Chief’s test? Why did he not get hired, he fit all criteria correct?
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#1508319 --- 11/07/17 12:20 AM Re: GPD Chief Tickler tricks the system! [Re: Mr. 2U]
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Trickler is a thief if he took that money and didn't relocate. What does Albany have to say about this and council?

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#1508325 --- 11/07/17 06:47 AM Re: GPD Chief Tickler tricks the system! [Re: Mr. 2U]
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What are the residency requirements? It is not too uncommon for people to fulfill such requirements by maintaining sham apartments in jurisdictions that require residency.

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#1508408 --- 11/07/17 07:45 PM Re: GPD Chief Tickler tricks the system! [Re: Mr. 2U]
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Where is Tantillo in all this?

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#1508933 --- 11/14/17 08:17 PM Re: GPD Chief Tickler tricks the system! [Re: Mr. 2U]
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Tantillo is up Tricklers ass and the asses of the GPD....They allow a whole host of offenses go on committed by city officials, city council and GPD officers. Ever notice how Horn, Alcock, Council and GPD are all still buying drinks on our tax dollars? We allow this to continue and they are sitting back slapping one another on the back.

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#1510460 --- 12/07/17 04:24 PM Re: GPD Chief Tickler tricks the system! [Re: Mr. 2U]
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A sham and a theft. When Trickler was picked he had no intention of moving into the city and the city manager and council had no intentions of making him. Trickler downright stole that money. Changing the requirement just for him and only him just goes to show you that the city had no intentions of making him move. Disgraceful! Sounds criminal to me.
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#1510462 --- 12/07/17 04:26 PM Re: GPD Chief Tickler tricks the system! [Re: Mr. 2U]
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Originally Posted By: Mr. 2U
https://genevabeliever.wordpress.com/201...r-over-6-years/

Did GPD Lt. John Cataline live in the city and score just as high as Jeff Trickler on that particular Chief’s test? Why did he not get hired, he fit all criteria correct?


I have known John Cataline since he was a young rookie cop. He lives in the city, community minded and was a well liked and well respected man. He should have been chief.
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#1510666 --- 12/11/17 03:31 PM Re: GPD Chief Tickler tricks the system! [Re: Mr. 2U]
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I wonder what's behind all this Tickler Hating.  The man is well liked, involved, and by all standards an asset to the city.  He lives just outside the city of Geneva.  Big deal.  All of you hysterics make it sound like a big cover-up conspiracy criminal act.  Get a grip on  your horney, breathless search for issues to outrage over. 

It's not the best situation, it seems to have been handled poorly over time and now the issue has been put to rest by the city council vote.  Let it go.  its not the big screaming crime you desperately want it to be.  The man is respected and trusted.  Focus your energy on working with him and others to bring about honest changes good for all.  Show some integrity, some good character, some honesty, and some concern for the real objective which is to bring people together in respect.

You remind me of a troop of soldiers so busy complaining about their sergeant, they forget their objective and the enemy overruns them.  Stay focused on the mission.  What is your mission:  getting rid of Chief Tickler or bringing diverse people together?

All of you need to do some soul searching, reflection on yourselves.  What's driving your hatred of this man?  The matter is closed, move on respectfully.  You are not fighting the Bolshevik Revolution. work to bring people together, to help them know and respect each other.  What sad examples you all are!  Pityful. " A tempest in a teapot." Rage for its own sake to no good end.



Edited by ruby2 (12/11/17 03:36 PM)

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#1510695 --- 12/12/17 08:43 AM Re: GPD Chief Tickler tricks the system! [Re: Mr. 2U]
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Heany, MEENEY, Miney, Mo. No council seat, No BID job? Try running for city manager?

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#1510732 --- 12/12/17 03:39 PM Re: GPD Chief Tickler tricks the system! [Re: Mr. 2U]
Wolf King Offline
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I have nothing against Mr. Trickler, but if he did in fact take $2,500 to help with a move he never made, he should be required to return that money.
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#1510740 --- 12/12/17 05:16 PM Re: GPD Chief Tickler tricks the system! [Re: Mr. 2U]
ruby2 Offline
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I agree with you absolutely, Wolf King. I believe city council requires the money be returned.

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#1510847 --- 12/14/17 10:28 AM Re: GPD Chief Tickler tricks the system! [Re: Mr. 2U]
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Pretty sure this matter has been taken care of...the requirements have been ammended...no laws have been broken, no need to keep whining!!...go back to finding some other petty argument to complain about to make yourselves feel better!!

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#1510872 --- 12/14/17 04:17 PM Re: GPD Chief Tickler tricks the system! [Re: Mr. 2U]
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Also, I'd like to remind you all that Chief Trickler is a human being.  Like you he probably has family, friends, children maybe, a house he's lived in for a long time, a neighborhood he knows and neighbors.  To  just trash someone online without considering how your cyber blows will hurt this man, his family, etc, is thoughtlessly cruel.  This has been done to other Geneva high profile individuals like Jackie Augustine and Ken Camera for instance.  You may not like them, you may not agree with their politics and that's okay., but show some respect for them as human beings as you lay down your critique of them.

Today everyone is crying out for respect, fairness, understanding, love, compassion, kindness from others, but very few are giving it.  We are still in Give Me, Give Me mode with very little effort made to empathize with others.  Try to see that we all suffer in some way, that's the human condition.  These are not bad people.  They may not be to your liking, but they deserve  as much respect as anyone else.  Disagree with them, but don't demonize them.  Practice kindness, compassion and respect, not these trashy rants with no substance to back them up.  Some issues, and people, will require a lot of ranting and raving from us to get our point across, but most don't measure up to that level.  We have all turned into hotheads for some reason, let's try to get back to a less violent, confrontational way of being in the world.  Huh, maybe?

At least here in our own little Geneva teapot let's try to limit the tempest, in the spirit of coming together as a peace loving diverse community.  Love your neighbor, love nature, and enjoy the beauty of your hometown and its generous and long suffering lake.

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#1510876 --- 12/14/17 07:58 PM Re: GPD Chief Tickler tricks the system! [Re: cj216inf]
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Originally Posted By: cj216inf
Pretty sure this matter has been taken care of...the requirements have been ammended...no laws have been broken, no need to keep whining!!...go back to finding some other petty argument to complain about to make yourselves feel better!!




Or, how about, as American citizens with free speech guaranteed to us under our First Amendment to the Constitution, we continue to express our views on this public servant receiving preferential treatment. Simply amending the law after it's already been broken doesn't cut it. Would any "ordinary" citizen receive such treatment? The only one I see whining here is you.
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#1510880 --- 12/14/17 09:59 PM Re: GPD Chief Tickler tricks the system! [Re: Mr. 2U]
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Wolf King, the situation was poorly handled and persisted for a time. It's my opinion the decision to give the chief and exemption, have him pay back money, was the right one, this allowed him to move forward working with community members on police-community relation issues. He's liked, he's trusted, and they are having some success. It makes sense to allow him to continue in that capacity. 

What happened with Chief Trickler is no big deal.  Mistakes were made, maybe the city was trying to accommodate him somewhat when he was promoted to Chief.  He'd been around a long time, they knew who they were dealing with, he was the perfect fit for the job, etc..  Who knows. It's been corrected. . It's a small matter.

Going forward the residency requirement will be enforced and we will get what we deserve.  And that is  whatever is available to us from the small pool of individuals living within the parameters of our little city.

As to ordinary citizens, they get their share of special treatment every day, every hour, all across America, we just don't hear about it.  Things happen all the time in government and in business that appear to be unfair, but may be the right decision under the circumstances that exist at that time. True equality in all instances is impossible to achieve.  Most of us have experienced some kind of preferential treatment in our lives for one reason or another.  Get off your high horse.  Move on, there's nothing to see here.  No crime has been committed.

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#1510895 --- 12/15/17 06:35 AM Re: GPD Chief Tickler tricks the system! [Re: ruby2]
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Originally Posted By: ruby2
Going forward the residency requirement will be enforced and we will get what we deserve. 


was it not a requirement for any hired chief to reside within the city?

Originally Posted By: ruby2
And that is  whatever is available to us from the small pool of individuals living within the parameters of our little city.


why would it only be limited to those living within the city?

individuals move frequently for a new job that they have an interest in
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#1510896 --- 12/15/17 06:51 AM Re: GPD Chief Tickler tricks the system! [Re: cj216inf]
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Originally Posted By: cj216inf
the requirements have been ammended...


should all city employees be required to live within the city?

should it be amended that if a city employee fails to live within the city that they 'donate' the difference back to the city for the property tax savings of living in the town and not in the city?

if they live in a $200,000 home in the town and the taxes on a $200,000 home in the city were $2,000 more per year then should that $2,000 be deducted out of their pay to help lower the taxes for actual city residents?
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#1510900 --- 12/15/17 07:22 AM Re: GPD Chief Tickler tricks the system! [Re: Mr. 2U]
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And, Bluezone, don't forget if they live on the moon and Jupiter aligns with Mars, will that make all the bad stuff go away?  How much will it cost to fly from the moon to Geneva?  Why don't hummingbirds have big feet to carry around like the other birds?  So many questions, so few answers. Stay away from the coffee today, man.

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#1510908 --- 12/15/17 08:02 AM Re: GPD Chief Tickler tricks the system! [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: ruby2
Going forward the residency requirement will be enforced and we will get what we deserve. 


was it not a requirement for any hired chief to reside within the city?
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#1510911 --- 12/15/17 08:08 AM Re: GPD Chief Tickler tricks the system! [Re: ruby2]
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Originally Posted By: ruby2
And, Bluezone, don't forget if they live on the moon and Jupiter aligns with Mars, will that make all the bad stuff go away?  How much will it cost to fly from the moon to Geneva?  Why don't hummingbirds have big feet to carry around like the other birds?  So many questions, so few answers. Stay away from the coffee today, man.


did the city manager offer any reason why the move did not take place?

are the taxes lower in the town of geneva compared to the city?
are the water/sewer rates lower in the town of geneva compared to the city?
is there less crime in the town of geneva compared to the city?
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