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#1506813 --- 10/19/17 06:03 PM Re: Seneca Falls Elections [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Well it's obvious you 2 don't have a clue as to how things work. The landfill once capped and water can't get in there is almost no chance of any kind of leak. There is something like 15,000,000 dollars already set aside for anything that is needed after the landfill closes and the State will be responsible. Now would you 2 please try to explain exactly where Seneca Falls would be if the dump never existed. Your perfect little town is falling apart with the millions it has gotten in the past. Just exactly where do you think it would be today. The entire State of New York is going down the toilet but somehow you think Seneca Falls could have done better , what a joke you are !



Your former boss, Don Gentilcore, said it himself: "All landfill liners leak." It is a simple eventuality. Toxic leachate is so corrosive it eats through several inches of steel piping. Given enough time, it WILL eat through the liner. You think your taxes will go up without the dump? Wait until your watershed has been poisoned with landfill leachate.
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#1506814 --- 10/19/17 07:41 PM Re: Seneca Falls Elections [Re: Wolf King]
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Gentilcore said no such thing. But you're so smart tell me if the clay liner will leak. And explain why there is no ground water contamination where there is no liner. That's right part of SMI was built before plastic liners were even used. Why don't you check on Ontario county's landfill, it was started in 1974 before liners were used. So tell us what the life expectancy is of the compacted clay liner. Almost forgot, what about the second liner ? You know if the first liner leaks when leachate shows up in the liner underneath. How many times has that happened ?


Edited by scwoodchuck (10/19/17 07:49 PM)
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#1506815 --- 10/19/17 07:56 PM Re: Seneca Falls Elections [Re: Wolf King]
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Originally Posted By: Wolf King


It is not a breach of contract, so you can spare us your employer's fear-mongering right now. SMI themselves agreed to the 2025 closure date in the 2007 host community benefits agreement. LL3 simply holds them to their word. And even if it were a "breach of contract", contracts can go straight to hell when the health and well-being of community members and their children are at stake.
If people are really concerned about their kids they'd move.
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#1506816 --- 10/19/17 08:09 PM Re: Seneca Falls Elections [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Gentilcore said no such thing.

But... The EPA Most Assuredly DID!

Read and Learn:
http://www.rachel.org/?q=es/node/4429

And...

New Evidence That All Landfills Leak:
https://ratical.org/corporations/RHWN316.txt

Analyzing Why ALL Landfills Leak:
http://www.ejnet.org/rachel/rhwn116.htm

Why Plastic Landfill Liners Always Fail:
http://www.ejnet.org/rachel/rhwn217.htm

Leachate Collection Systems: The Achilles' Heel Of Landfills:
http://www.ejnet.org/rachel/rhwn119.htm

Why Every Landfill Liner Leaks:
http://landfill-site.com/landfill-liner-leaks.html

Landfill Failures - The Buried Truth:
https://socm.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Landfill-Failures-PUB-0091.pdf

Landfill Liners only DELAY, not Prevent FAILURE.
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#1506817 --- 10/19/17 08:16 PM Re: Seneca Falls Elections [Re: Timbo]
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Nothing lasts forever but in time the landfill will be considered NO threat to the environment or human health. May I suggest you search the DEC, because the NO LONGER A THREAT determination has been declared on the north hill at SMI. :-P

Why are NONE of your links for an actual EPA site, just sayin wink


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#1506826 --- 10/19/17 11:21 PM Re: Seneca Falls Elections [Re: Crazy]
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Stay on topic, the Elections will be a determining factor on what happens economically, if we have representation as citizens, and if we can re-establish leadership and reasoning. At this point, none of it exists.

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#1506827 --- 10/20/17 05:02 AM Re: Seneca Falls Elections [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Why are NONE of your links for an actual EPA site, just sayin wink

I guess you don't know how to read: "FEDERAL REGISTER - May 26, '81, pgs. 28314 - 28328."
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#1506831 --- 10/20/17 05:30 AM Re: Seneca Falls Elections [Re: OINK]
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Originally Posted By: OINK
SMI's monies have never gone for Town Taxes. The taxes fluctuate with expenditures. Stop the fear tactics with the tax talk and read the budget. Stop waiting for the "call" that never comes and create a plan for growth. Too many opportunities that are not being developed. Time to change the "retiree" decision making and think future.
so what is the topic ? Or do you just say that when you're losing the argument, like everyone else.


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#1506839 --- 10/20/17 09:40 AM Re: Seneca Falls Elections [Re: Crazy]
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I'm casting my vote for scwoodchuck! He has all the answers and can deflect any question. Leadership that we haven't witnessed in a long time, well, I may be mistaken....

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#1507011 --- 10/23/17 11:29 AM Re: Seneca Falls Elections [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Gentilcore said no such thing.

But... The EPA Most Assuredly DID!

Read and Learn:
http://www.rachel.org/?q=es/node/4429

And...

New Evidence That All Landfills Leak:
https://ratical.org/corporations/RHWN316.txt

Analyzing Why ALL Landfills Leak:
http://www.ejnet.org/rachel/rhwn116.htm

Why Plastic Landfill Liners Always Fail:
http://www.ejnet.org/rachel/rhwn217.htm

Leachate Collection Systems: The Achilles' Heel Of Landfills:
http://www.ejnet.org/rachel/rhwn119.htm

Why Every Landfill Liner Leaks:
http://landfill-site.com/landfill-liner-leaks.html

Landfill Failures - The Buried Truth:
https://socm.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Landfill-Failures-PUB-0091.pdf

Landfill Liners only DELAY, not Prevent FAILURE.
Ya know it really doesn't matter what you think, liners are the law. However I do realize that you think you're above the law. grin
http://www.dec.ny.gov/chemical/23719.html
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#1507012 --- 10/23/17 01:29 PM Re: Seneca Falls Elections [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Landfill Liners only DELAY, not Prevent FAILURE.
Ya know it really doesn't matter what you think, liners are the law. However I do realize that you think you're above the law. grin

What matters is that virtually every single claim that you make concerning landfill safety is ultimately proven to be... 'unreliable'.

Now, what's this nonsense about me believing myself to be above the law, or is that just you experiencing another one of your frequent psychotic episodes (not that I'm judging)?
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#1507017 --- 10/23/17 03:33 PM Re: Seneca Falls Elections [Re: Timbo]
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OK so just explain what the liners will be leaking when they eventually fail. Once capped no water can get in the pile of trash and it will dry out. It's called a dry toumb for a reason. As far as my mental state the psychiatric staff here will attest to my being perfectly normal.

By the way you seem to have a lot of your"OWN facts" that nobody agrees with.


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#1507026 --- 10/23/17 05:50 PM Re: Seneca Falls Elections [Re: Crazy]
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So can we get back to the election ? Did anybody watch the video on FL1 where they interviewed the 2 Democrats running for the town board ? In my opinion it was all criticism of the current board but no solutions.
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#1507046 --- 10/24/17 06:03 AM Re: Seneca Falls Elections [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Somebody should tell Avery his platform is over 30 years old. Best part is they kept saying it will take time to turn Seneca Falls around but the present board has had less than 2 years. What does a music teacher know about business or economics ? He has proven he knows absolutely nothing about environmental issues and he is president of the Environmental Action Committee. This guy is a joke right from the start.
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#1507148 --- 10/24/17 04:36 PM Re: Seneca Falls Elections [Re: Hello_Governer]
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Originally Posted By: Hello_Governer
Somebody should tell Avery his platform is over 30 years old. Best part is they kept saying it will take time to turn Seneca Falls around but the present board has had less than 2 years. What does a music teacher know about business or economics ? He has proven he knows absolutely nothing about environmental issues and he is president of the Environmental Action Committee. This guy is a joke right from the start.




And what do a retired jail guard and construction laborer know about, well...anything?
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#1507150 --- 10/24/17 04:37 PM Re: Seneca Falls Elections [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
OK so just explain what the liners will be leaking when they eventually fail. Once capped no water can get in the pile of trash and it will dry out. It's called a dry toumb for a reason. As far as my mental state the psychiatric staff here will attest to my being perfectly normal.

By the way you seem to have a lot of your"OWN facts" that nobody agrees with.




If you believe a landfill cap can NEVER, EVER, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES leak, you're only kidding yourself.
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#1507219 --- 10/25/17 08:00 PM Re: Seneca Falls Elections [Re: Wolf King]
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Bioremediation is the use of microbes to clean up contaminated soil and groundwater. Microbes are very small organisms, such as bacteria, that live naturally in the environment. Bioremediation stimulates the growth of certain microbes that use contaminants as a source of food and energy.


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#1507220 --- 10/25/17 08:17 PM Re: Seneca Falls Elections [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Bioremediation is the use of microbes to clean up contaminated soil and groundwater. Microbes are very small organisms, such as bacteria, that live naturally in the environment. Bioremediation stimulates the growth of certain microbes that use contaminants as a source of food and energy.



Cool. Except bioremediation doesn't clean up inorganic contaminants like heavy metals, such as lead, mercury, benzene or asbestos. Sorry, try again, I guess.
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#1507221 --- 10/25/17 08:18 PM Re: Seneca Falls Elections [Re: Crazy]
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Also, your mindset of "Let's allow it to become poisoned because someday maybe it can be bioremediated" is really pretty absurd.
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#1507260 --- 10/26/17 05:38 AM Re: Seneca Falls Elections [Re: Wolf King]
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What is absolutely absurd is the fact that the natural elements you have just mentioned exist everywhere in nature and some of them are essential for life to exist on this planet. You have no idea that we are all carbon based life forms an are dependent on volatile organic compounds and natural elements for our existence.
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