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#1505101 --- 09/23/17 02:34 PM Trump tweets
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/23/politics/nfl-goodell-trump-response/index.html

NFL commissioner, LeBron James blast Trump for tweets against athletes

Miranda Green

By Miranda Green, CNN

Updated 11:13 AM ET, Sat September 23, 2017

President Donald Trump came under harsh criticism Saturday from the NFL and some of the NBA's top players after he blasted prominent athletes for kneeling during the national anthem, putting himself in the center of a controversy with significant racial and cultural undertones.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell slammed Trump in a statement Saturday morning, calling the President "divisive" for remarks he made at a rally in Alabama Friday night, while one of the most famous athletes in the world, LeBron James, called Trump a "bum" for a Saturday morning tweet aimed at the Golden State Warriors' Stephen Curry.

Trump responded to the criticism later Saturday in a series of tweets, saying that playing for a sports league is a "privilege" and that players should not be able to disrespect the American flag or the US without risking being "fired."

"If a player wants the privilege of making millions of dollars in the NFL, or other leagues, he or she should not be allowed to disrespect ...." Trump tweeted. "Our Great American Flag (or Country) and should stand for the National Anthem. If not, YOU'RE FIRED. Find something else to do!"

Trump's tweets and harsh reaction highlight an extraordinary moment -- the President, NFL commissioner and a top basketball player embroiled in a public fight over unity and patriotism.
Goodell said Trump's criticism of NFL players kneeling in protest during the National Anthem show a "lack of respect" for the league and its players.

"The NFL and our players are at our best when we help create a sense of unity in our country and our culture," Goodell said in the statement. "There is no better example than the amazing response from our clubs and players to the terrible natural disasters we've experienced over the last month. Divisive comments like these demonstrate an unfortunate lack of respect for the NFL, our great game and all of our players, and a failure to understand the overwhelming force for good our clubs and players represent in our communities."


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#1505102 --- 09/23/17 03:03 PM Re: Trump tweets [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-...ests-he-n804136


Trump Withdraws Invitation to White House After Stephen Curry Says He’s Opposed to Going

by Phil McCausland

The Golden State Warriors said Saturday the team wouldn't go to the White House — even if they had been invited — after President Donald Trump suggested in a tweet that star player Stephen Curry is not welcome.

"We believe there is nothing more American than our citizens having the right to express themselves freely on matters important to them," the team said in a statement. "We're disappointed that we did not have an opportunity during this process to share our views or have open dialogue on issues impacting our communities that we felt would be important to raise."

While its customary for professional sports teams that have won championships to get an audience with the president, Curry told reporters Friday that he would sit out on any potential trip.

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#1505112 --- 09/23/17 03:58 PM Re: Trump tweets [Re: kyle585]
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Good for him! Does anybody really care what he thinks!

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#1505118 --- 09/23/17 05:11 PM Re: Trump tweets [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Good for him! Does anybody really care what he thinks!
Yep. Take your blinders off, fool.
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#1505153 --- 09/24/17 02:41 AM Re: Trump tweets [Re: Teonan]
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/23/opinions/trump-nfl-remarks-racial-issue-zelizer-opinion/index.html

Many athletes have turned down invitations from other presidents without provoking a Trump-like response. In 2012, Tim Thomas of the Stanley Cup champion Boston Bruins, a tea party supporter, refused to visit the White House. Green Bay Packers' Mark Chmura didn't go to meet President Bill Clinton. And the Boston Celtics' Larry Bird turned down a meeting in 1984 with Ronald Reagan.

When Red Sox star Manny Ramirez refused to go to the White House to meet George W. Bush, the president joked, "I'm sorry [David Ortiz's] running mate, Manny Ramirez isn't here. I guess his grandmother died again. Just kidding. Tell Manny I didn't mean it." Other than some jokes, presidents have decided to stay focused on the bigger policy challenges at hand. Not Trump. He couldn't resist lashing out and further proved that he is a divisive president who continues to capitalize on social division to promote faux populism. The kind that promises relief to struggling Americans by expressing sympathy with their social anger -- by blaming the other -- rather than offering real economic relief.

This controversy comes right as President Trump makes one last-ditch attempt to push for what is likely to be legislation that would strip away the health care of millions of Americans and gets ready to push a regressive tax cut that would benefit the wealthy.

Some people say that the President simply speaks his mind and doesn't always think through everything that he says. But we have seen that when Trump wants to be seen as presidential, he can be very restrained about certain issues.

The fact that he has made a choice to take on this issue at this moment was a political choice and it is one that, unfortunately, resembles a series of statements and decisions that reveals how this is a president determined to divide and not unite our country.

Trump's supporters, who are cheering on his NFL remarks and his rescinded invitation, should ask themselves what campaign promises -- the ones that were made directly to them -- has the President dedicated his time to keeping.

And, when we are in a state of tremendous tension with North Korea and perhaps veering toward a war, they should be asking, why is the President spending his time on these issues?

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#1505168 --- 09/24/17 11:59 AM Re: Trump tweets [Re: kyle585]
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Trump is a true Patriot who loves this country! These so called protesters are nothing but scum who should be deported to another country like North Korea & let them see they don't have it so bad here after all!

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#1505169 --- 09/24/17 12:15 PM Re: Trump tweets [Re: gassy one]
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George Takei‏Verified account @GeorgeTakei 4h4 hours ago

Trump's criticism of NFL players' patriotism ring false from a guy who avoided the draft five times and pals around with Russian agents.
311 replies 6,183 retweets 19,080 likes

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#1505170 --- 09/24/17 12:17 PM Re: Trump tweets [Re: kyle585]
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Notice who does not have their hand over their heart. Even his son knows better.


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#1505174 --- 09/24/17 12:54 PM Re: Trump tweets [Re: kyle585]
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Sorry Kyle. Facts are facts and that one's a likely Photoshop job. No evidence of that ever happening sez factcheck.org

The facts, wherever they may lead.

Still doesn't change the FACT that Trump's an indesputable fascist/racist and is hellbent on dismantling every American institution charged with holding him accountable for his lies and crimes.
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#1505176 --- 09/24/17 01:44 PM Re: Trump tweets [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo

Sorry Kyle. Facts are facts and that one's a likely Photoshop job. No evidence of that ever happening sez factcheck.org
OK. I saw it on Twitter but I can't find it now so I don't know who posted it.

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#1505177 --- 09/24/17 01:46 PM Re: Trump tweets [Re: kyle585]
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George Takei Retweeted
Jay Kuo‏Verified account @nycjayjay 5h5 hours ago

I don't watch much football, but I'm going to tune into today because, well, that asshole in the White House told me not to.

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#1505178 --- 09/24/17 01:50 PM Re: Trump tweets [Re: kyle585]
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George Takei‏Verified account @GeorgeTakei 2h2 hours ago

The Steelers will remain in their locker room during the National Anthem, the team confirmed. They will not be talking about grabbing pussy.

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#1505183 --- 09/24/17 04:22 PM Re: Trump tweets [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
George Takei‏Verified account @GeorgeTakei 2h2 hours ago

The Steelers will remain in their locker room during the National Anthem, the team confirmed. They will not be talking about grabbing pussy.
Whoa Kyle!

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#1505184 --- 09/24/17 04:24 PM Re: Trump tweets [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
George Takei Retweeted
Jay Kuo‏Verified account @nycjayjay 5h5 hours ago

I don't watch much football, but I'm going to tune into today because, well, that asshole in the White House told me not to.
Kyle! LOL!

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#1505187 --- 09/24/17 05:58 PM Re: Trump tweets [Re: gassy one]
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I have heard this said numerous times on TV today:

I would think the president would have enough to worry about with North Korea, health care, the Russia investigation, and hurricanes without worrying about who is kneeling at football games.

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#1505190 --- 09/24/17 06:06 PM Re: Trump tweets [Re: kyle585]
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Fanastic!

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/president-trumps-insults-helped-unify-nfl-200558047.html

LONDON – Side by side, arm linked in arm, player-owner-player.

Marcedes Lewis. Shahid Khan. Telvin Smith.

It will serve as an iconic image on a day of unprecedented protest and unity in the NFL.

Donald Trump called the mothers of players who protest during the playing of the national anthem “bitches,” demanded said protesters be summarily fired and encouraged a boycott of the National Football League. The Jacksonville Jaguars, from ownership down to the last of the roster, responded by saying no, not here, not now, not in this sport.

It’s believed Khan became the first owner to ever join a player protest, sending a powerful picture of togetherness and support in a game played all the way over in England and beamed around the globe. Before their 44-7 victory over the Baltimore Ravens, at least 14 Jaguars took a knee during the playing of “The Star-Spangled Banner” here. At least 10 Ravens did the same.


Other players of each team who didn’t feel comfortable using the anthem as a platform made sure they showed support for the teammates who did by standing as one.

“It was a privilege,” Khan said.

Trump is a master of wedge issues, and like any good politician he wields them when things aren’t going his way politically. His presidency is a recurring cable TV shout-fest, the insults and intensity ramped up and nothing getting solved in the end.

Whether a few players kneel for the anthem – most often as a way of speaking up for the voiceless who have been subject to police violence – has little to no tangible impact on fans. It doesn’t get anyone a raise, or make their kid’s school better or defuse nuclear threats.

Yet many Americans are upset at what they see as disrespect for the flag, for the military, for the nation’s history. They have that right. They wonder why it needs to occur during what is otherwise entertainment. It’s fair to ask that. You can be offended by whatever you want in America. Whether Trump shares their rage or is just exploiting it, there are many who have an honest disagreement about the protests.

That includes some of the Jaguars, who are at least conflicted. Smith said he didn’t kneel because the game was being played on foreign soil and it didn’t feel right to him. Lewis said he struggles with the issue because his stepfather is a veteran with a Purple Heart.

“You can pull from both sides,” Lewis said.

Trump is feeding red meat to his base while trying to further divide America. Yet Sunday he ran into unexpected and unprecedented solidarity in the NFL. Players and owners and coaches generally feud over everything – from rules to investigations, from revenue to safety.

They all agreed on Sunday.

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#1505191 --- 09/24/17 06:11 PM Re: Trump tweets [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/marc-cuban-trump-must-apos-061328484.html

Dallas Mavericks owner Marc Cuban tells Meet the Press that the president's attacks on athletes open the door for sports stars to criticize him.

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#1505211 --- 09/24/17 07:47 PM Re: Trump tweets [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...s-are-way-down/

Trump's Mostly False claim that NFL ratings are 'way down'

By Manuela Tobias on Sunday, September 24th, 2017 at 5:56 p.m.

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#1505218 --- 09/24/17 08:13 PM Re: Trump tweets [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Fanastic!

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/president-trumps-insults-helped-unify-nfl-200558047.html

LONDON – Side by side, arm linked in arm, player-owner-player.

Marcedes Lewis. Shahid Khan. Telvin Smith.

It will serve as an iconic image on a day of unprecedented protest and unity in the NFL.

Donald Trump called the mothers of players who protest during the playing of the national anthem “bitches,” demanded said protesters be summarily fired and encouraged a boycott of the National Football League. The Jacksonville Jaguars, from ownership down to the last of the roster, responded by saying no, not here, not now, not in this sport.

It’s believed Khan became the first owner to ever join a player protest, sending a powerful picture of togetherness and support in a game played all the way over in England and beamed around the globe. Before their 44-7 victory over the Baltimore Ravens, at least 14 Jaguars took a knee during the playing of “The Star-Spangled Banner” here. At least 10 Ravens did the same.


Other players of each team who didn’t feel comfortable using the anthem as a platform made sure they showed support for the teammates who did by standing as one.

“It was a privilege,” Khan said.

Trump is a master of wedge issues, and like any good politician he wields them when things aren’t going his way politically. His presidency is a recurring cable TV shout-fest, the insults and intensity ramped up and nothing getting solved in the end.

Whether a few players kneel for the anthem – most often as a way of speaking up for the voiceless who have been subject to police violence – has little to no tangible impact on fans. It doesn’t get anyone a raise, or make their kid’s school better or defuse nuclear threats.

Yet many Americans are upset at what they see as disrespect for the flag, for the military, for the nation’s history. They have that right. They wonder why it needs to occur during what is otherwise entertainment. It’s fair to ask that. You can be offended by whatever you want in America. Whether Trump shares their rage or is just exploiting it, there are many who have an honest disagreement about the protests.

That includes some of the Jaguars, who are at least conflicted. Smith said he didn’t kneel because the game was being played on foreign soil and it didn’t feel right to him. Lewis said he struggles with the issue because his stepfather is a veteran with a Purple Heart.

“You can pull from both sides,” Lewis said.

Trump is feeding red meat to his base while trying to further divide America. Yet Sunday he ran into unexpected and unprecedented solidarity in the NFL. Players and owners and coaches generally feud over everything – from rules to investigations, from revenue to safety.

They all agreed on Sunday.
It was far from a majority!

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#1505219 --- 09/24/17 08:18 PM Re: Trump tweets [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...s-are-way-down/

Trump's Mostly False claim that NFL ratings are 'way down'

By Manuela Tobias on Sunday, September 24th, 2017 at 5:56 p.m.
Ratings are way down!



http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/09/17/early-season-ratings-decline-continues-for-nfl/

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