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#1506156 --- 10/06/17 09:21 PM Re: Bad news for SMI [Re: scwoodchuck]
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And we are going to be hit by an asteroid at midnight.


lol what? My point is not "the sky is falling" rhetoric. It is very real, very legitimate concern. These substances are very toxic to be exposed to on a daily basis.
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#1506157 --- 10/06/17 09:23 PM Re: Bad news for SMI [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Hello_Governer
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Th judge ruled that the SEQRA had to be done over, he never reinstated anything. Closing a landfill and building a new one or sending more trash someplace else doesn't protect anything it just puts the problem in a different location.
Instead of Canada sending their trash here, a different ideal location would seem to be 200 miles north of Toronto where almost no one lives for miles around.
Remote places in Canada are reserved for TOXIC waste from the United States grin
The Canadians are smarter than us.
You can't imagine how much money they make taking stuff that is only dangerous in someone's imagination.


Really? Lead, asbestos, radioactive drill casings, mercury, benzene, and any other number of totally unknown substances are only harmful in someone's IMAGINATION? This is a breakthrough. Of the century. I guess all those cancer patients who developed their illnesses due to exposure in mines, factories, power plants and landfills were simply imagining it all. Go tell them that.
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#1506158 --- 10/06/17 09:24 PM Re: Bad news for SMI [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: Wolf King
Originally Posted By: Hello_Governer
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Th judge ruled that the SEQRA had to be done over, he never reinstated anything. Closing a landfill and building a new one or sending more trash someplace else doesn't protect anything it just puts the problem in a different location.
Instead of Canada sending their trash here, a different ideal location would seem to be 200 miles north of Toronto where almost no one lives for miles around.
Remote places in Canada are reserved for TOXIC waste from the United States grin




SMI accepts toxic waste. They accepted radioactive spent drill casings from hydraulic fracturing operations in Pennsylvania. They actively accept asbestos. The leachate produced in those mountains is EXTREMELY toxic. In fact, if that leachate is not toxic, nothing is. And this is to say nothing of the totally unknown substances coming in on those trucks on a daily basis. No one has any clue what potentially toxic substances are contained in all those bags. Do not try to tell me that landfill is not toxic.
U have no clue!



Welp, you proved me wrong. I guess I have no clue. Good job!

Oh, wait, everything I said is truth. Maybe YOU should get a clue?
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#1506165 --- 10/06/17 10:21 PM Re: Bad news for SMI [Re: Wolf King]
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I'm sure I know more about landfills than you ever will! First of all according to DEC regs any landfill that accepts drill cuttings has to have permanent Geiger counters mounted at the scale house to detect radiation if there is any! There is never any detection on drill cuttings! That is a activist myth! The leachate at SMI is run thru a RO system and filters which clean up the leachate tremendously! I think your just another crackpot who has no clue what they are spouting off about!


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#1506178 --- 10/07/17 07:16 AM Re: Bad news for SMI [Re: Wolf King]
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http://www.fractcheck.com/health there is a test on this link to let you know how much you know about fracking.


Edited by scwoodchuck (10/07/17 07:17 AM)
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#1506183 --- 10/07/17 11:25 AM Re: Bad news for SMI [Re: scwoodchuck]
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/...g/#7ea66fe56d68

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#1506185 --- 10/07/17 01:25 PM Re: Bad news for SMI [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
I'm sure I know more about landfills than you ever will! First of all according to DEC regs any landfill that accepts drill cuttings has to have permanent Geiger counters mounted at the scale house to detect radiation if there is any! There is never any detection on drill cuttings! That is a activist myth! The leachate at SMI is run thru a RO system and filters which clean up the leachate tremendously! I think your just another crackpot who has no clue what they are spouting off about!




What is your position at Seneca Meadows? Are you an engineer who works on the Geiger counters? What level are those counters set at? Are you taking into account the incremental build up of radioactivity over time? And if there were to be any radioactivity detected, would you or your employer ever actually admit to it? Sorry, but science is not "activist myths". And being that you know more about landfills than any one else, I'm sure you know that much of the SMI leachate is trucked off-site to a treatment facility in Endicott, NY because it is far too toxic for the Seneca Falls waste waste treatment plant to handle. I'm far from a crackpot, friendo. In fact, I actually know what I'm talking about.

p.s. *You're
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#1506186 --- 10/07/17 01:27 PM Re: Bad news for SMI [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
http://www.fractcheck.com/health there is a test on this link to let you know how much you know about fracking.




Before you post a site for one to supposedly check "how much you know about fracking" you might want to be sure the site does not have "A project of Texans for Natural Gas" posted plainly on the bottom of the page. Industry science is not the same as unbiased science.
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#1506194 --- 10/07/17 09:17 PM Re: Bad news for SMI [Re: Wolf King]
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Originally Posted By: Wolf King
Originally Posted By: gassy one
I'm sure I know more about landfills than you ever will! First of all according to DEC regs any landfill that accepts drill cuttings has to have permanent Geiger counters mounted at the scale house to detect radiation if there is any! There is never any detection on drill cuttings! That is a activist myth! The leachate at SMI is run thru a RO system and filters which clean up the leachate tremendously! I think your just another crackpot who has no clue what they are spouting off about!




What is your position at Seneca Meadows? Are you an engineer who works on the Geiger counters? What level are those counters set at? Are you taking into account the incremental build up of radioactivity over time? And if there were to be any radioactivity detected, would you or your employer ever actually admit to it? Sorry, but science is not "activist myths". And being that you know more about landfills than any one else, I'm sure you know that much of the SMI leachate is trucked off-site to a treatment facility in Endicott, NY because it is far too toxic for the Seneca Falls waste waste treatment plant to handle. I'm far from a crackpot, friendo. In fact, I actually know what I'm talking about.

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Yeah sure you do! LOL!

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#1506202 --- 10/07/17 10:40 PM Re: Bad news for SMI [Re: Festus]
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...That's your reply? Are you even trying?
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#1506222 --- 10/08/17 07:11 AM Re: Bad news for SMI [Re: Wolf King]
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Originally Posted By: Wolf King
Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
http://www.fractcheck.com/health there is a test on this link to let you know how much you know about fracking.




Before you post a site for one to supposedly check "how much you know about fracking" you might want to be sure the site does not have "A project of Texans for Natural Gas" posted plainly on the bottom of the page. Industry science is not the same as unbiased science.
would you prefer GAS FREE SENECA
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#1506223 --- 10/08/17 07:26 AM Re: Bad news for SMI [Re: Wolf King]
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Originally Posted By: Wolf King
Originally Posted By: gassy one
I'm sure I know more about landfills than you ever will! First of all according to DEC regs any landfill that accepts drill cuttings has to have permanent Geiger counters mounted at the scale house to detect radiation if there is any! There is never any detection on drill cuttings! That is a activist myth! The leachate at SMI is run thru a RO system and filters which clean up the leachate tremendously! I think your just another crackpot who has no clue what they are spouting off about!




What is your position at Seneca Meadows? Are you an engineer who works on the Geiger counters? What level are those counters set at? Are you taking into account the incremental build up of radioactivity over time? And if there were to be any radioactivity detected, would you or your employer ever actually admit to it? Sorry, but science is not "activist myths". And being that you know more about landfills than any one else, I'm sure you know that much of the SMI leachate is trucked off-site to a treatment facility in Endicott, NY because it is far too toxic for the Seneca Falls waste waste treatment plant to handle. I'm far from a crackpot, friendo. In fact, I actually know what I'm talking about.

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Do you even know what causes radioactivity ? I think not.
For CRACKPOTS
https://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/faqs/consumerproducts.html
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#1506232 --- 10/08/17 03:17 PM Re: Bad news for SMI [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Originally Posted By: Wolf King
Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
http://www.fractcheck.com/health there is a test on this link to let you know how much you know about fracking.




Before you post a site for one to supposedly check "how much you know about fracking" you might want to be sure the site does not have "A project of Texans for Natural Gas" posted plainly on the bottom of the page. Industry science is not the same as unbiased science.
would you prefer GAS FREE SENECA



Being that they use actual science and not industry "science", yes, I would.
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#1506233 --- 10/08/17 03:20 PM Re: Bad news for SMI [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Originally Posted By: Wolf King
Originally Posted By: gassy one
I'm sure I know more about landfills than you ever will! First of all according to DEC regs any landfill that accepts drill cuttings has to have permanent Geiger counters mounted at the scale house to detect radiation if there is any! There is never any detection on drill cuttings! That is a activist myth! The leachate at SMI is run thru a RO system and filters which clean up the leachate tremendously! I think your just another crackpot who has no clue what they are spouting off about!




What is your position at Seneca Meadows? Are you an engineer who works on the Geiger counters? What level are those counters set at? Are you taking into account the incremental build up of radioactivity over time? And if there were to be any radioactivity detected, would you or your employer ever actually admit to it? Sorry, but science is not "activist myths". And being that you know more about landfills than any one else, I'm sure you know that much of the SMI leachate is trucked off-site to a treatment facility in Endicott, NY because it is far too toxic for the Seneca Falls waste waste treatment plant to handle. I'm far from a crackpot, friendo. In fact, I actually know what I'm talking about.

p.s. *You're
Do you even know what causes radioactivity ? I think not.
For CRACKPOTS
https://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/faqs/consumerproducts.html



What exactly is it you're trying to prove with that link? That site lists common household items? You do realize this indirectly supports my claim of incremental buildup of radioactivity when you store it all in one giant pile, right? And you do realize that site says nothing of radioactive drill casing used in hydraulic fracturing, right?


...Right?
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#1506234 --- 10/08/17 04:15 PM Re: Bad news for SMI [Re: Wolf King]
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Wolf dung it's not drill casings. Try to get it right you're almost as bad as the people who smell methane.

https://stateimpact.npr.org/pennsylvania...drilling-waste/

Do you know your drinking water is radioactive crazy


Edited by scwoodchuck (10/08/17 04:40 PM)
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#1506243 --- 10/08/17 06:11 PM Re: Bad news for SMI [Re: Festus]
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Once again, posting some random article kind of semi-related to the topic at hand, is not how science works. At least try to stay on the topic at hand. If you can't understand what is being said, refrain from commenting.
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#1506247 --- 10/08/17 07:20 PM Re: Bad news for SMI [Re: Wolf King]
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Since the drill CUTTINGS you are talking about are from drilling Marcellus shale you should realize that the radioactive Marcellus shale lies on top of the ground in a line all across New York State and is on top of the ground around Ovid. People in the south end of Seneca County live right on top of it. Their water wells are drilled into it their basements are dug in it too. Look up Marcellus shale outcropping.
I did it for you. Radon causes cancer by the way.
"Close proximity to the surface of Marcellus bedrock south of the New York outcrops makes an east-west band running through the city of Syracuse[14] a high-risk area for radon as an indoor air pollutant.[33] From the surface exposures along the northern and eastern margins, the formation descends to depths of over 2,700 m (8,900 ft) below the surface in southern Pennsylvania.[25]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcellus_Formation


Edited by scwoodchuck (10/08/17 07:40 PM)
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#1506259 --- 10/08/17 09:31 PM Re: Bad news for SMI [Re: Festus]
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Are you serious? You're joking...right?
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#1506273 --- 10/09/17 09:09 AM Re: Bad news for SMI [Re: Wolf King]
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Are you serious? You're joking...right?
Chuck is not joking, in fact there is enough Marcellus gas in some water wells and basements to BLOW your house up. By the way Chuck is 96 years old and in a nursing home in Canandaigua he has all day to play your silly games. Today he is up at Strong for tests. Seems the only joke here is you.
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#1506277 --- 10/09/17 10:53 AM Re: Bad news for SMI [Re: Hello_Governer]
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Originally Posted By: Hello_Governer
Originally Posted By: Wolf King
Are you serious? You're joking...right?
Chuck is not joking, in fact there is enough Marcellus gas in some water wells and basements to BLOW your house up. By the way Chuck is 96 years old and in a nursing home in Canandaigua he has all day to play your silly games. Today he is up at Strong for tests. Seems the only joke here is you.

Wow! How do cram so many non-sequiturs into the space of one paragraph while entirely avoiding the subject? That's quite a talent you've got there. grin
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