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#1503826 --- 08/21/17 12:53 PM New group formed in Seneca Falls
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Front page story on Finger Lakes Times today.

Indivisible Seneca Falls has organized an event to respond to recent violence in Charlottesville, VA. The group will gather on Tuesday from 5 to 6 PM in Elizabeth Cady Stanton Park.

The group put out a press release over the weekend saying, “We will honor those who were lost and injured, denounce hate and intolerance, and stand in solidarity with all who have been targets of ‘alt-right’ Neo-Nazi and racist attacks.”

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#1503859 --- 08/22/17 03:38 AM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Front page story on Finger Lakes Times today.

Indivisible Seneca Falls has organized an event to respond to recent violence in Charlottesville, VA. The group will gather on Tuesday from 5 to 6 PM in Elizabeth Cady Stanton Park.

The group put out a press release over the weekend saying, “We will honor those who were lost and injured, denounce hate and intolerance, and stand in solidarity with all who have been targets of ‘alt-right’ Neo-Nazi and racist attacks.”
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#1503864 --- 08/22/17 07:29 AM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: kyle585]
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All we can hope for is that this go well and it does not turn into more hate.

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#1503868 --- 08/22/17 08:38 AM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: DR. D]
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Unless you are a total pacifist, it is hard to keep your anger in check when confronted with Neo-nazis and the KKK. There are no "fine" people among those two groups.

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#1503870 --- 08/22/17 08:48 AM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: kyle585]
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This sounds like, at best, a solution in search of a problem and, at worst, an ill-minded attempt by the same group of Ithaca activists who travel around harassing Tom Reed and other republican politicians.

There is no KKK or Neo-Nazi presence to battle in Seneca Falls. I am unaware of any march being planned. Any bigotry that exists, while abhorrent, is no more pronounced here than anywhere else in upstate New York.

So why is Kyle saying it is justified to get angry here when "confronted with Neo-Nazis and the KKK"? Why is an organizer with a "cornell" email address organizing a group nearly an hour away from the campus?

Perhaps there is a legitimate threat here for this group to battle, but suspect Dr D's fears may come true. This is a group looking for a fight and hoping to provoke something just to get their (possible masked) faces in the news, rather than work for real solutions.

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#1503873 --- 08/22/17 09:49 AM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Unless you are a total pacifist, it is hard to keep your anger in check when confronted with Neo-nazis and the KKK. There are no "fine" people among those two groups.



So, to prevent Nazi's and the KKK (which have no presence in this area)from making a speech which locally hasn't happened that promote violence we should use actual violence? .....do you even logic?


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#1503876 --- 08/22/17 12:08 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: DR. D]
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I think you're wrong Doc, we have lots of Nazis and facists here in Seneca County. Just take an objective look at the CCSC.


Edited by scwoodchuck (08/22/17 12:10 PM)
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#1503878 --- 08/22/17 12:21 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: Sam the Sham]
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Originally Posted By: Sam the Sham
This sounds like, at best, a solution in search of a problem and, at worst, an ill-minded attempt by the same group of Ithaca activists who travel around harassing Tom Reed and other republican politicians.

There is no KKK or Neo-Nazi presence to battle in Seneca Falls. I am unaware of any march being planned. Any bigotry that exists, while abhorrent, is no more pronounced here than anywhere else in upstate New York.

So why is Kyle saying it is justified to get angry here when "confronted with Neo-Nazis and the KKK"? Why is an organizer with a "cornell" email address organizing a group nearly an hour away from the campus?

Perhaps there is a legitimate threat here for this group to battle, but suspect Dr D's fears may come true. This is a group looking for a fight and hoping to provoke something just to get their (possible masked) faces in the news, rather than work for real solutions.
Brace yourself Seneca Falls is about to become very sorry for It's history.
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#1503880 --- 08/22/17 12:50 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: kyle585]
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Forgeet Mexico. Build a wall around Ithaca.

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#1503896 --- 08/22/17 04:20 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: kyle585]
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They are not a new group. They were organized in February.

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#1503898 --- 08/22/17 04:56 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: Betty.]
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#1503920 --- 08/23/17 06:40 AM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: Hello_Governer]
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Big front page story in FL Times today. I am printing a little bit of it here and there.

Nearly 75 people took time to come Tuesday to the birthplace of the Women's rights Movement to stand against hatred, bigotry, racism, and discrimination.

“Many cities have held rallies said organizer Rachel Weil of Seneca Falls. She never expected to see so many people waving Nazi flags in the country that proudly defeated Hitler”.

John Kehoe and Joanna Papontos of Seneca Falls said they came because they consider themselves part of the Resistance Movement.

Joanne Blair of Seneca Falls said she grew up in the Bronx and saw racism as a child.

Others who spoke were Interlaken Village Board member Tony DelPano and Robin Williams of Waterloo.

(My note: the article mentioned no one from Ithaca and no mention of violence happening at the rally)

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#1503923 --- 08/23/17 07:15 AM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: kyle585]
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I remember when Bill and Hillary gave speeches at Hobart College in 2001. There were no protestors. I remember when Barack Obama at least rode a bus through Seneca Falls. There were no protestors.

What do you think would happen if Donald Trump came to Seneca Falls? The protestors would number in the thousands.

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#1503925 --- 08/23/17 07:43 AM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
I remember when Bill and Hillary gave speeches at Hobart College in 2001. There were no protestors. I remember when Barack Obama at least rode a bus through Seneca Falls. There were no protestors.

What do you think would happen if Donald Trump came to Seneca Falls? The protestors would number in the thousands.


Isn't that because conseratives tend to be more respectful and law abiding than liberals?

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#1503929 --- 08/23/17 08:00 AM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: Hot Burrito]
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Originally Posted By: Hot Burrito
Originally Posted By: kyle585
I remember when Bill and Hillary gave speeches at Hobart College in 2001. There were no protestors. I remember when Barack Obama at least rode a bus through Seneca Falls. There were no protestors.

What do you think would happen if Donald Trump came to Seneca Falls? The protestors would number in the thousands.

Isn't that because conseratives tend to be more respectful and law abiding than liberals?
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/24/is-donald-trump-conservative-heres-the-rundown/

by Ben Shapiro 24 Jan 2016

Is Donald Trump conservative?

This week, Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) has bashed Trump for insufficient conservatism. He explained, “Donald’s record does not match what he says as a candidate.” Cruz isn’t the only one. Last month, Rush Limbaugh said that Trump’s attacks on Cruz reflected the fact that he was not a “genuine conservative.” Mark Levin said in 2011, “Trump is NOT the real deal… He is not a conservative. He was happy to donate to Schumer, Weiner & Emanuel campaigns last year. He was pro-choice recently and now claims to be pro-life. He sounds more and more like Ross Perot.” Andrew Breitbart said at the time, “Of course he’s not a conservative. He was for Nancy Pelosi before he was against Nancy Pelosi.”

I don’t believe Trump is a conservative either; I’ve said that repeatedly. Full disclosure: I’ve also said that I would vote for Ted Cruz if the primaries took place today. I’ve also said that Trump channels conservative anger against the establishment brilliantly, and that he has become a vessel for much-needed conversations on immigration.

With all that said, it’s worthwhile exploring Trump’s worldview. To do that, we must separate two elements of that worldview: his current positions, and his historic positions. The first goes to supposed conservatism, and the second goes to credibility – even if he says he’s conservative today, should you believe him?

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#1503930 --- 08/23/17 08:02 AM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Big front page story in FL Times today. I am printing a little bit of it here and there.

Nearly 75 people took time to come Tuesday to the birthplace of the Women's rights Movement to stand against hatred, bigotry, racism, and discrimination.

“Many cities have held rallies said organizer Rachel Weil of Seneca Falls. She never expected to see so many people waving Nazi flags in the country that proudly defeated Hitler”.

John Kehoe and Joanna Papontos of Seneca Falls said they came because they consider themselves part of the Resistance Movement.

Joanne Blair of Seneca Falls said she grew up in the Bronx and saw racism as a child.

Others who spoke were Interlaken Village Board member Tony DelPano and Robin Williams of Waterloo.

(My note: the article mentioned no one from Ithaca and no mention of violence happening at the rally)
written by David Shaw I presume crazy
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#1503931 --- 08/23/17 08:04 AM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
written by David Shaw I presume crazy
So now you are going to tell me the FL Times is a liberal paper? The kind Trump says is an enemy of the people?

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#1503932 --- 08/23/17 08:06 AM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Hot Burrito
Originally Posted By: kyle585
I remember when Bill and Hillary gave speeches at Hobart College in 2001. There were no protestors. I remember when Barack Obama at least rode a bus through Seneca Falls. There were no protestors.

What do you think would happen if Donald Trump came to Seneca Falls? The protestors would number in the thousands.

Isn't that because conseratives tend to be more respectful and law abiding than liberals?
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/24/is-donald-trump-conservative-heres-the-rundown/

by Ben Shapiro 24 Jan 2016

Is Donald Trump conservative?

This week, Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) has bashed Trump for insufficient conservatism. He explained, “Donald’s record does not match what he says as a candidate.” Cruz isn’t the only one. Last month, Rush Limbaugh said that Trump’s attacks on Cruz reflected the fact that he was not a “genuine conservative.” Mark Levin said in 2011, “Trump is NOT the real deal… He is not a conservative. He was happy to donate to Schumer, Weiner & Emanuel campaigns last year. He was pro-choice recently and now claims to be pro-life. He sounds more and more like Ross Perot.” Andrew Breitbart said at the time, “Of course he’s not a conservative. He was for Nancy Pelosi before he was against Nancy Pelosi.”

I don’t believe Trump is a conservative either; I’ve said that repeatedly. Full disclosure: I’ve also said that I would vote for Ted Cruz if the primaries took place today. I’ve also said that Trump channels conservative anger against the establishment brilliantly, and that he has become a vessel for much-needed conversations on immigration.

With all that said, it’s worthwhile exploring Trump’s worldview. To do that, we must separate two elements of that worldview: his current positions, and his historic positions. The first goes to supposed conservatism, and the second goes to credibility – even if he says he’s conservative today, should you believe him?
I thought I liked skiing, till I hit a tree.
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#1503934 --- 08/23/17 08:09 AM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
I thought I liked skiing, till I hit a tree.
Did you have a helmet on? grin

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#1503938 --- 08/23/17 08:49 AM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: Hot Burrito]
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Originally Posted By: Hot Burrito
Originally Posted By: kyle585
I remember when Bill and Hillary gave speeches at Hobart College in 2001. There were no protestors. I remember when Barack Obama at least rode a bus through Seneca Falls. There were no protestors.

What do you think would happen if Donald Trump came to Seneca Falls? The protestors would number in the thousands.

Isn't that because conseratives tend to be more respectful and law abiding than liberals?
Not much respect from these Republicans. It is fake news for sure.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/loca...land/592199001/

Ah social media is a glorious place. You see something, it looks cool, and so you retweet it.

And sometimes that gets you into trouble.

Such was the case Tuesday night, when Tennessee Republicans and other supporters of President Donald Trump started sharing an image of what was purportedly a massive crowd gathered in the streets of Phoenix ahead of his speech.

Only problem? The photo is actually an aerial shot from the 2016 Cleveland Cavaliers parade.

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#1503946 --- 08/23/17 11:57 AM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.conservapedia.com/USA_Today

USA Today would be leftist.
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#1503947 --- 08/23/17 12:06 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: Betty.]
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Originally Posted By: Betty.
They are not a new group. They were organized in February.
By a college professor running for town council who'd a thunk it.

http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=37207#


Edited by scwoodchuck (08/23/17 12:28 PM)
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#1503948 --- 08/23/17 12:36 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Big front page story in FL Times today. I am printing a little bit of it here and there.

Nearly 75 people took time to come Tuesday to the birthplace of the Women's rights Movement to stand against hatred, bigotry, racism, and discrimination.

“Many cities have held rallies said organizer Rachel Weil of Seneca Falls. She never expected to see so many people waving Nazi flags in the country that proudly defeated Hitler”.

John Kehoe and Joanna Papontos of Seneca Falls said they came because they consider themselves part of the Resistance Movement.

Joanne Blair of Seneca Falls said she grew up in the Bronx and saw racism as a child.

Others who spoke were Interlaken Village Board member Tony DelPano and Robin Williams of Waterloo.

(My note: the article mentioned no one from Ithaca and no mention of violence happening at the rally)
You would be wrong "AGAIN" it seems the organizer is a history professor at CORNELL grin
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#1503949 --- 08/23/17 12:39 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: scwoodchuck]
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You would be wrong "AGAIN" it seems the organizer is a history professor at CORNELL grin
I didn't know that. All I know is the newspaper article said she was from Seneca Falls. A history professor who knows much more about history than Trump obviously.

http://time.com/4433807/donald-trump-american-history/

t the Democratic National Convention, Democrats cited American heroes of both parties and their collective vision—the shining city of Ronald Reagan, the political arena of Theodore Roosevelt and the declared independence of the founders. Hillary Clinton renewed Franklin Roosevelt’s call “The only thing to fear is fear itself” in response to modern-day fascism.

But something was particularly striking about Donald Trump's RNC acceptance speech: Its staggering deficit of United States history—its failure to acknowledge inspiration from any past U.S. president. Think about that. There is not one U.S. president—Federalist, Whig, Democratic-Republican Party, Democrat, Republican—whom Trump pointed to as an historical model.

So if Trump's alleged collusion with Russian cyber-terrorists hacking U.S. security is not evidence enough of disloyalty to the United States—nor his supposed bedside reading of Hitler's speeches, his hateful bullying of "others" or the candidate's resemblance to an intemperate autocrat who would rule over us—what about Trump’s denial of our democratic history?

Instead he claims, as no previous nominee of any U.S. political party has, “I alone” can fix the country. That is the construct of a third-world demagogue, not an American president. Trump’s patchwork does not appear to fit into our democratic existence.

From this perspective, Trump fails the most basic test of citizenship. Americans are coming to an urgent realization. It is not U.S. exceptionalism that is on the line this election; it may be American extinction, her preservation as a beacon of liberty, and her survival in the book of history.

"Keep an open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out," said American educator Virginia Gildersleeve. We are an open-minded people but not to the prospect of a homegrown dictator. If Trump does not take stock of American history, it is our very open minds and free expression that could hang in the balance.

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#1503956 --- 08/23/17 03:34 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: kyle585]
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Gee I thought the reason George Washington was picked for president was the Congress new he was the only one the army would listen to. Need I remind you that the army was about to take over the country.
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#1503957 --- 08/23/17 03:43 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: kyle585]
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Here is what a Cornell student had to say.
If you're looking for an easy A in the history department, look elsewhere. As an English and History double major, I squeaked out an A-. The teachers are nice, the material is straightforward, but they are straight Nazis on grading essays. Not only are they mega-strict on the grading, they're terribly inconsistent. Stay away. Stay well away."

http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=37207


Edited by scwoodchuck (08/23/17 03:45 PM)
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#1503959 --- 08/23/17 04:47 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: kyle585]
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Kyle literally Hijacked his own thread. D-Bag, keep your presidential hate to the other 47 threads you have on it.

You took another topic that literally has some good discussion potential and you ruined it. I was completely serious about my concern of protesters coming to protest what happened yesterday and thank goodness there were no counter protesters because it would not have been good.

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#1503960 --- 08/23/17 05:22 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Originally Posted By: Betty.
They are not a new group. They were organized in February.
By a college professor running for town council who'd a thunk it.

http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=37207#


She's running for Seneca County Board of Supervisors.

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#1503973 --- 08/23/17 09:46 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: Sam the Sham]
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I bet someone in Honeoye Falls said the same thing:

Honeoye Falls Charlottesville Connection

at least until the photos came out.


[There is no KKK or Neo-Nazi presence to battle in Seneca Falls. I am unaware of any march being planned. [/quote]
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#1504003 --- 08/24/17 06:48 AM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Unless you are a total pacifist, it is hard to keep your anger in check when confronted with Neo-nazis and the KKK. There are no "fine" people among those two groups.


Kyle, don't you forgot to add Antifa to your group hate.
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#1504006 --- 08/24/17 07:00 AM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Unless you are a total pacifist, it is hard to keep your anger in check when confronted with Neo-nazis and the KKK. There are no "fine" people among those two groups.
Kyle, don't you forgot to add Antifa to your group hate.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/what-is-antifa-trnd/index.html

A controversial protest group, known as Antifa, clashed with right-wingers in Charlottesville

Some members employ radical or militant tactics to get their message across

After protests in Charlottesville, Virginia, turned violent on Saturday, leaving one person dead and dozens injured, the world is still grappling with what happened, who was involved and why.

Hundreds of white nationalists took to the streets over the weekend to protest the removal of a Gen. Robert E. Lee statue. But members of a controversial opposing group, known as Antifa, also showed up to condemn hate and racism.

Here's a closer look at Antifa protesters, who have become more visible in the past year.

Antifa is short for anti-fascists. The term is used to define a broad group of people whose political beliefs lean toward the left -- often the far left -- but do not conform with the Democratic Party platform. The group doesn't have an official leader or headquarters, although groups in certain states hold regular meetings.

Antifa positions can be hard to define, but many members support oppressed populations and protest the amassing of wealth by corporations and elites. Some employ radical or militant tactics to get their message across.

The majority of Antifa members don't fall into a stereotype. Since the election of President Donald Trump, however, most new Antifa members are young voters.

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#1504009 --- 08/24/17 08:09 AM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: DR. D]
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Originally Posted By: DR. D
Kyle literally Hijacked his own thread. D-Bag, keep your presidential hate to the other 47 threads you have on it.

You took another topic that literally has some good discussion potential and you ruined it. I was completely serious about my concern of protesters coming to protest what happened yesterday and thank goodness there were no counter protesters because it would not have been good.
I think it's only a matter of time before Seneca Falls and Geneva start having real problems. When all the college students return the protesting may increase. Keep in mind what has taken place at Congressman Reed's office in Geneva.
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#1504014 --- 08/24/17 09:02 AM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Originally Posted By: DR. D
Kyle literally Hijacked his own thread. D-Bag, keep your presidential hate to the other 47 threads you have on it.

You took another topic that literally has some good discussion potential and you ruined it. I was completely serious about my concern of protesters coming to protest what happened yesterday and thank goodness there were no counter protesters because it would not have been good.
I think it's only a matter of time before Seneca Falls and Geneva start having real problems. When all the college students return the protesting may increase. Keep in mind what has taken place at Congressman Reed's office in Geneva.
real problems? I expect a lot of protests nationwide as long as we have our current president.

https://www.loc.gov/law/help/peaceful-assembly/us.php

The First Amendment to the United States Constitution prohibits the United States Congress from enacting legislation that would abridge the right of the people to assemble peaceably.

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#1504016 --- 08/24/17 09:12 AM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Keep in mind what has taken place at Congressman Reed's office in Geneva.
Those were all peaceful protests, were they not?

http://www.mpnnow.com/news/20170203/prot...ffice-in-geneva

By Aaron Curtis acurtis@messengerpostmedia.com
Posted Feb 3, 2017 at 6:46 PM Updated Feb 3, 2017 at 6:46 PM

GENEVA — An estimated 300 people showed up outside of House Republican Tom Reed’s Geneva office last Tuesday in an expression of angst over President Donald Trump’s policies and where the local representative stands on them.

According to rally organizers — three professors in the psychology department at Hobart and William Smith Colleges — the showing on Exchange Street is just the beginning.

“Lots of planning and talking and worrying is happening in hallways, offices and online, which is great, but sometimes you just have to get out on the street and be seen and heard,” said one organizer Brien Ashdown. “A lot of people were seen and heard on Tuesday.”

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#1504017 --- 08/24/17 10:26 AM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: kyle585]
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So you think taking over a congressman's office is OK. 10,000 people marching in Seneca Falls has no possibility of turning ugly I suppose. We've had 2 people arrested so far in Seneca Falls and in your mind there is no possibility of it escalating. You have a history of being out of touch with reality and it appears to continue.
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#1504019 --- 08/24/17 10:38 AM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
So you think taking over a congressman's office is OK. 10,000 people marching in Seneca Falls has no possibility of turning ugly I suppose. We've had 2 people arrested so far in Seneca Falls and in your mind there is no possibility of it escalating. You have a history of being out of touch with reality and it appears to continue.
I wasn't aware they took over a congressman's office? When were two people arrested in Seneca Falls? Either I am out of touch or you have a lot of info from somewhere. grin

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#1504020 --- 08/24/17 10:41 AM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
10,000 people marching in Seneca Falls has no possibility of turning ugly I suppose. We've had 2 people arrested so far in Seneca Falls and in your mind there is no possibility of it escalating.
Were their people arrested here?

http://www.pressconnects.com/story/news/...rally/96920202/

1/21/17

Voices rang out across upstate New York as thousands gathered Saturday to share their view of what America needs.

The chant "Love, not hate, that's what makes America great," went up among the crowd estimated by organizers between 8,000 to 10,000 who attended a rally at the Women's Rights National Historical Park in Seneca Falls, Seneca County. Marchers reported an approximately mile-long traffic backup on the New York state Thruway as people tried to get into town for the event.


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#1504034 --- 08/24/17 12:49 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
So you think taking over a congressman's office is OK. 10,000 people marching in Seneca Falls has no possibility of turning ugly I suppose. We've had 2 people arrested so far in Seneca Falls and in your mind there is no possibility of it escalating. You have a history of being out of touch with reality and it appears to continue.
I wasn't aware they took over a congressman's office? When were two people arrested in Seneca Falls? Either I am out of touch or you have a lot of info from somewhere. grin


http://weos.org/post/womens-assembly-occupies-rep-reeds-office
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#1504036 --- 08/24/17 03:02 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
So you think taking over a congressman's office is OK. 10,000 people marching in Seneca Falls has no possibility of turning ugly I suppose. We've had 2 people arrested so far in Seneca Falls and in your mind there is no possibility of it escalating. You have a history of being out of touch with reality and it appears to continue.
I wasn't aware they took over a congressman's office? When were two people arrested in Seneca Falls? Either I am out of touch or you have a lot of info from somewhere. grin
http://weos.org/post/womens-assembly-occupies-rep-reeds-office
The headline says: Women's Assembly Occupies Rep. Reed's Office

The article says" Around two o’clock, protesters had occupied Reed’s office where a number of individuals spoke including Banan Otaibi."

The article says nothing about forced entry or arrests. Maybe he invited them in?

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#1504038 --- 08/24/17 03:44 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: kyle585]
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OK, get 30 people and just walk into the Dean's office at Hobart or Cornell and let us know how you make out.
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#1504040 --- 08/24/17 06:48 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
OK, get 30 people and just walk into the Dean's office at Hobart or Cornell and let us know how you make out.
The Dean may ask them why they are there, talk to them, ask them to leave, or call the cops to have them removed. Apparently in Reed's office we have no idea what his office did? Apparently no one was arrested? So what about the two people you said were arrested in an earlier post? When did that happen?

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#1504041 --- 08/24/17 06:49 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
We've had 2 people arrested so far in Seneca Falls
When? What for?

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#1504047 --- 08/24/17 07:10 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: kyle585]
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Question, what happens if the same type of protesters that were in Arizona with weapons and such show up and wreak havoc upon the region in the name of the cause, is that ok with you?

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#1504050 --- 08/24/17 07:15 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: DR. D]
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Question, what happens if the same type of protesters that were in Arizona with weapons and such show up and wreak havoc upon the region in the name of the cause, is that ok with you?
Of course not.

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#1504051 --- 08/24/17 07:16 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: kyle585]
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I'm all for peaceful protest but my question is how we make sure hate doesn't breed hate

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#1504053 --- 08/24/17 07:21 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: DR. D]
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Originally Posted By: DR. D
I'm all for peaceful protest but my question is how we make sure hate doesn't breed hate
It is very difficult to make sure hate doesn't breed hate.

But we never before had a president that seems to support hate groups as much as this one. A president that talks in such vulgar and obscene terms that parents don't even want their children listening to him. A president that bullies anyone who doesn't agree with him 100%. A president that glorifies the leader of our chief adversary nation. A president who, with his staff, seems to have many business dealings with that nation. A president who refuses to release his tax returns because it would show these business dealings.

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#1504059 --- 08/24/17 09:18 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: scwoodchuck]
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What happened at Reed's Office?
American citizens exercising their freedom of speech to visit an office they pay for?????
I don't think there has been any violence, so I am clueless what you are talking about.

Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Originally Posted By: DR. D
Kyle literally Hijacked his own thread. D-Bag, keep your presidential hate to the other 47 threads you have on it.

You took another topic that literally has some good discussion potential and you ruined it. I was completely serious about my concern of protesters coming to protest what happened yesterday and thank goodness there were no counter protesters because it would not have been good.
I think it's only a matter of time before Seneca Falls and Geneva start having real problems. When all the college students return the protesting may increase. Keep in mind what has taken place at Congressman Reed's office in Geneva.
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#1504060 --- 08/24/17 09:20 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: scwoodchuck]
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#1504061 --- 08/24/17 09:21 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: DR. D]
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Please do not get me started.
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#1504063 --- 08/24/17 09:26 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: all seeing eye]
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But you STARTED years ago !
What's the matter ? Don't like being exposed ?
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#1504065 --- 08/24/17 09:36 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: DR. D]
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Obviously it is not. but hate speech is almost as toxic.

Originally Posted By: DR. D
Question, what happens if the same type of protesters that were in Arizona with weapons and such show up and wreak havoc upon the region in the name of the cause, is that ok with you?
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#1504066 --- 08/24/17 09:37 PM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: scwoodchuck]
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HUH?

Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
But you STARTED years ago !
What's the matter ? Don't like being exposed ?
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#1504072 --- 08/25/17 04:39 AM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: kyle585]
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Let me put up a scenario and see how you feel at the end and be honest. Say another rally happens but this time instead of 75 people showing up 10,000 show up with about 99% of them not even from the tri county area.... And they march over and cut the heads off the statues on the canal in the name of their brand of justice... That kind of hate is ok?

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#1504073 --- 08/25/17 05:00 AM Re: New group formed in Seneca Falls [Re: all seeing eye]
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Originally Posted By: all seeing eye
Obviously it is not. but hate speech is almost as toxic.


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