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#1503322 --- 08/13/17 01:53 PM US Hate-Groups Exposed
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SPLC website reveals the 917 Hate Groups currently operating in the US.

Track them below with their detailed Hate Map:

https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map
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#1503345 --- 08/14/17 01:38 AM Re: US Hate-Groups Exposed [Re: Timbo]
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/13/politics/trump-silent-aides-charlottesville/index.html

A series of White House aides on Sunday looked to explain President Donald Trump's statement the day before that failed to condemn white supremacists or the "alt-right" for violence that left three people dead in Charlottesville, Virginia.

One White House official who didn't lend his voice to that effort: Trump himself.

A White House official, who requested anonymity and ignored attempts to go on the record, told reporters Sunday that it was obvious the President condemned "white supremacists, KKK, neo-Nazi and all extremist groups" despite Trump not mentioning those groups during an event at his private golf club Saturday and instead blaming the violence on "many sides."

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#1503349 --- 08/14/17 02:11 AM Re: US Hate-Groups Exposed [Re: kyle585]
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I so want Bannon gone. It is shameful that Trump put him in the White House at all. Breitbart is a horrible website.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/13/politics/leaders-ask-trump-to-fire-senior-admin/index.html

A coalition of major civil rights and faith groups on Sunday called on President Donald Trump to "directly disavow the white supremacists" who participated in violent protests in Charlottesville, Virginia, this weekend -- a reference to Trump's remarks condemning the deadly clashes on Saturday.

"It represents a failure of leadership from the nation's chief executive," the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, an umbrella group, said in a statement. "It is long past time for Trump to personally and unequivocally denounce white supremacy, violent extremism, and hate in all its forms."

The group also called for the ouster of White House chief strategist Steve Bannon and deputy assistant Sebastian Gorka, who have drawn criticism from civil rights organizations for their associations with the alt-right, a hodgepodge of far-right, white nationalist groups that drafted off the President's 2016 campaign to rise to national prominence.

Before becoming Trump's campaign chief last summer, Bannon ran the conservative news site Breitbart, which he called "the platform for the alt-right." Meanwhile, Gorka, a former Breitbart national security editor, has been outspoken on the need to confront Islamist terrorism, drawing fire last week week when he spoke with the news site about terrorism and said white supremacists were not the problem.

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#1503350 --- 08/14/17 02:23 AM Re: US Hate-Groups Exposed [Re: kyle585]
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How What Happened Here In Charlottesville Was Inevitable

The college town is reeling from violence and death and experts say the next white nationalist rally could be worse.


The ground underneath the statue of Confederate Gen. Robert Lee in Emancipation Park Saturday night was littered with evidence of President Donald Trump’s cultivation of the far right: protest signs with messages like “The Jewish Media Is Going Down,” “The Goyim Know” and “We Support President Donald Trump.”

Only several hours earlier here, white supremacist demonstrators and counter-protesters had engaged in open combat for hours. The sounds of screams had mixed with the sounds of people coughing, their lungs full of mace. Tear gas canisters and rocks and full water bottles and bags of feces flew through the air. Blood stained the sidewalk.

n Trump’s statement about Charlottesville Saturday, he refused to specifically condemn the white supremacists who besieged this picturesque college town. “We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides on many sides,” he told reporters during a late-afternoon news conference in New Jersey.

White supremacists were more than pleased with his reaction. “Trump’s comments were good,” read a post on the prominent white nationalist site Daily Stormer as they live-blogged yesterday’s events.

“He refused to answer a question about White Nationalists supporting him,” the post continued. “No condemnation at all. When asked to condemn, he just walked out of the room. Really, really good. God bless him.”

With a president of the United States not condemning Nazism, and after over a year of signaling his support for white nationalism, experts are deeply concerned that we’re in store for political violence even worse than the kind that visited Charlottesville.

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#1503354 --- 08/14/17 03:01 AM Re: US Hate-Groups Exposed [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/

Suspect in Va. death was a Nazi sympathizer, teacher says

James Alex Fields Jr., the 20-year-old suspect accused of second-degree murder for plowing a car into a crowd of activists in Charlottesville, Va., on Saturday, espoused extremist ideals and idolized Adolf Hitler, according to his high school history teacher Derek Weimer.

By T. Rees Shapiro, Alice Crites, Laura Vozzella and John Woodrow Cox

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White House confronts backlash over Trump’s original remarks on Charlottesville

The White House spent much of Sunday trying to defend the president from a torrent of criticism, including from many Republicans, who said Trump had bypassed an opportunity Saturday to provide moral leadership and to distance himself from the white nationalist groups who had backed his candidacy and embraced his presidency.

By John Wagner, Jenna Johnson, Robert Costa and Sari Horwitz

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‘Look at the campaign he ran’: Charlottesville mayor is becoming one of Trump’s strongest critics

Michael Signer slammed Trump's path to the presidency, which the Democrat said emboldened extremist views.

By Kristine Phillips

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#1503382 --- 08/14/17 09:42 PM Re: US Hate-Groups Exposed [Re: kyle585]
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Some people just can't handle the truth!

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#1503388 --- 08/14/17 11:09 PM Re: US Hate-Groups Exposed [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Some people just can't handle the truth!

Correct, that's why today's Neo-Nazis are just as doomed to the ash-heap of history as the originals were.

Draining the REAL swamp, as it were.
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#1503454 --- 08/16/17 01:10 AM Re: US Hate-Groups Exposed [Re: Timbo]
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http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-tweets-20170815-story.html

“The driver of the car is a disgrace to himself, his family and his country,” Trump said. “You can call it terrorism, you can call it murder. You can call it whatever you want.”

Duke, the former Imperial Wizard of the KKK, wrote on Twitter: “Thank you President Trump for your honesty & courage to tell the truth about #Charlottesville & condemn the leftist terrorists.”

Democrats and many Republicans renewed their criticisms.

"What he did today again goes back on what he said yesterday and that’s unacceptable,” tweeted Sen. Cory Gardner, a Republican from Colorado. “The President was wrong to do that."

Other Republicans, including Sens. Orrin Hatch of Utah, Marco Rubio of Florida and Dean Heller of Nevada, simply retweeted their weekend comments distancing themselves from Trump’s equivocal Saturday statement.

Sen. Christopher S. Murphy‏, a Connecticut Democrat, may have had the most visceral reaction, tweeting that he read Trump's remarks after stopping on the side of the road. "I nearly threw up," he wrote. "An American President offering a defense of white supremacists. My god.”

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#1503455 --- 08/16/17 01:18 AM Re: US Hate-Groups Exposed [Re: kyle585]
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Thank you Senator Rubio. Well said.

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Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) on Tuesday denounced President Donald Trump’s equivocations on white supremacist-fueled violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, saying the president gave the hate groups a victory. "The organizers of events which inspired & led to [Charlottesville terror attack] are 100% to blame for a number of reasons," Rubio wrote on Twitter, adding, "The #WhiteSupremacy groups will see being assigned only 50% of blame as a win. We can not allow this old evil to be resurrected."

House Speaker Paul Ryan issued a similar statement, writing: “We must be clear. White supremacy is repulsive. This bigotry is counter to all this country stands for. There can be no moral ambiguity.”

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#1503456 --- 08/16/17 04:06 AM Re: US Hate-Groups Exposed [Re: kyle585]
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Excellent point Maxine.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-told-white-supremacists-attack-182336708.html

President Donald Trump’s comments on dealing with protesters are coming back to haunt him after the violence that broke out Saturday at a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia. The clashes between Nazis and counterprotesters left three people dead, including one anti-fascist demonstrator who was killed when a man rammed his car into the group she was with.

The president, whose initial statement about the rally was criticized for failing to mention racism, now finds comments he made about attacking protesters being revisited. Throughout his election campaign, Trump appeared to encourage violence toward anti-Trump protesters who showed up at his rallies, telling crowds of people that protesters should be escorted out more roughly, and offering to pay the legal fees of any of his fans who attacked them.

"If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously, OK? Just knock the hell... I promise you I will pay for the legal fees. I promise, I promise," Trump said at an Iowa rally on February 1, 2016.

At another event, Trump suggested police should be more violent with people they removed from his rallies. “You see, in the good old days, law enforcement acted a lot quicker than this,” Trump said at a rally in Oklahoma City, The New York Times reported, as security moved toward a protester.

“A lot quicker. In the good old days, they’d rip him out of that seat so fast. But today everyone is so politically correct. Our country is going to hell—we’re being politically correct,” he added.

His comments are now being recalled in the wake of the violence in Charlottesville, with Democratic U.S. Representative Maxine Walters tweeting on Monday: “Don't forget, Trump offered to pay legal fees for those who attacked protesters at his rallies. Will he be making that same offer now?”


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#1503457 --- 08/16/17 04:14 AM Re: US Hate-Groups Exposed [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opini...0815-story.html

It’s almost beyond imagination that a president would insist on the good motives of “some very fine people” attending a white supremacist demonstration. It’s almost beyond imagination that a president would equate demonstrators who deliberately set out to sow as much fear as possible — carrying torches, brandishing military-style rifles, chanting anti-Semitic slogans — with a much larger group of counter-protesters who came out to show they have no use for racism and hate.

But Trump did those things. His understanding of the world is what you get when you make a habit of believing everything you see on Fox News and read on Breitbart. He has no grasp of what blacks, Jews, Hispanics, gays and other historically persecuted groups have suffered. He thinks the only discrimination that exists anymore is discrimination against white males. He thinks whites are justified in striking back.

Trump has no interest in trying to heal the wounds of Charlottesville because he is too preoccupied with avenging his own wounds. He expected applause for his grudging, equivocal statement Saturday and felt deeply mistreated when he didn’t get it. So when he got the chance to vent his real feelings Tuesday, he couldn’t restrain himself. It was enough to raise serious questions about his mental stability and cognitive health. But maybe it’s just his character expressing itself with perfect precision.

This is the most shameful day of his presidency. But probably not for long.

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#1503458 --- 08/16/17 04:19 AM Re: US Hate-Groups Exposed [Re: kyle585]
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Please note this gassy. I read this in the Chicago Tribune. I read a wide variety of websites. Brietbart appears to be your only source of news.

Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opini...0815-story.html

His understanding of the world is what you get when you make a habit of believing everything you see on Fox News and read on Breitbart.


Edited by kyle585 (08/16/17 05:08 AM)

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#1503461 --- 08/16/17 05:46 AM Re: US Hate-Groups Exposed [Re: kyle585]
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I just saw on TV an interview with an alt-right marcher:

He said, "I can't stand to see that bastard Kushner walking around with that beautiful girl"."

Hey Trump. They are talking about your family. Does that bother you at all? Have you no sense of shame or decency?

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#1503467 --- 08/16/17 08:38 AM Re: US Hate-Groups Exposed [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/scathing-washington-post-editorial-trashes-110313320.html

The Washington Post editorial board penned a blistering piece about President Donald Trump’s defensive behavior during a press conference on his response to the weekend’s violence in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Titled “The nation can only weep,” the Post’s editorial board called Trump’s remarks in New York City Tuesday a “great day for [former Ku Klux Klan leader] David Duke and racists everywhere.”

“The president of the United States all but declared that he has their backs,” the board wrote.

The New York Times’ analysis of the press conference echoed the Post’s sentiment, warning that the president had “buoyed the white nationalist movement on Tuesday as no president has done in generations.”

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#1503468 --- 08/16/17 08:40 AM Re: US Hate-Groups Exposed [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/scathing-washington-post-editorial-trashes-110313320.html

This is a perspective of one of the residents of Charlottesville: "There seems to be a perception from people outside of charlottesville that what is going on here is two opposing groups coming to town and fighting some ideological battle that has gotten messy. That is not what is happening here.

What is happening here is that several hate groups from the extreme right have come together under the "unite the right " banner here in our town and basically started acting as terrorists. This may seem like an exaggeration but it's not. A church service was held over because they had surrounded the building and police had to disperse them. People had to be escorted to their cars. My friend was there with her daughter. Everywhere they meet, businesses close. We had drive by shootings yesterday from a van marked k k k. A car plowed into a huge group of people. I'm sure you saw that on the newsfeeds.

What you probably didn't see is that some of those people were on there way back from helping to repel a white supremacist march to predominately black housing development a few blocks away where they were attempting home invasions. I guess they were unfamiliar with the neighborhood. The residents repelled that one before antifa got there but there is some video of the altright folks getting run off on the daily progress twitter feed, if you're interested. So, basically, what I'd like you to understand is, this IS NOT two side egging each other on to unavoidable violence for more attention. This is one side of terrorists declaring that they can and will hold a town hostage (they've been saying it for over a month now, actually) and the town responding to that threat. The car that killed and injured people yesterday? Ohio tags.

The medic tents, water bottles, snacks, shade tents (all volunteer, donations, none shut down by police... all manned by that radical left you keep hearing about) yeah, we all live here. I saw a lot of people I knew yesterday, none of them were speaking for unite the right. None of them were escalating violence, most of them were offering some kind of aid and defending. I'm glad you're following the situation, but your generalizations are inaccurate in this case. Be blessed."


Edited by kyle585 (08/16/17 08:41 AM)

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#1503469 --- 08/16/17 08:43 AM Re: US Hate-Groups Exposed [Re: kyle585]
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Donald Trump is "trying to start a civil war", a former US Labor Secretary has claimed in the wake of the US President's inflammatory comments on the Charlottesville attacks.

Robert Reich accused Mr Trump of licensing violence as a "political strategy" and quietly inciting a conflict between his core base of white, socially conservative voters and everyone else.

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#1503471 --- 08/16/17 09:25 AM Re: US Hate-Groups Exposed [Re: kyle585]
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The USA was widely recognized as the greatest nation on earth. Now the whole world is concerned about what is happening to us. And Putin is laughing. What a disgusting situation.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/16/world/trump-charlottesville-reaction/index.html

Public figures in Israel, Germany, the United Kingdom and elsewhere have condemned President Donald Trump's latest remarks on the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, in which he laid blame on "both sides" for the deadly violence that erupted.

Such international criticism joined that of many lawmakers and commentators from both sides of the aisle in the United States.

A handful of voices from the far right offered veiled or open support for Trump's remarks -- reflecting his enduring appeal to a range of populist and anti-immigrant groups outside the United States. But they were far outweighed by those expressing outrage.

Donald Trump's failure in Charlottesville wasn't political -- it was moral German Justice Minister Heiko Maas directly criticized Trump in a statement early Wednesday, saying: ''It is unbearable how Trump now also glosses over the violence during the march of the right-wing protests in Charlottesville. "Nobody should trivialize the anti-Semitism and racism of neo-Nazis. When it comes to right-wing propaganda and violence, there is nothing to relativize.

"All democrats should together take a clear stance against it." Martin Schulz, leader of Germany's Social Democratic Party, tweeted: "One must denounce Nazis definitively. What Trump is doing is inflammatory. Whoever trivializes violence & hate betrays western values."

UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres tweeted: "Racism, xenophobia, anti-Semitism & Islamophobia are poisoning our societies. We must stand up against them. Every time. Everywhere."


Edited by kyle585 (08/16/17 10:42 AM)

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#1503479 --- 08/16/17 01:36 PM Re: US Hate-Groups Exposed [Re: kyle585]
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This would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/16/news/trump-manufacturing-council-ceos/index.html

White House business panels collapse as CEOs flee Trump

by Jill Disis, Julia Horowitz and Cristina Alesci @CNNMoney August 16, 2017: 2:08 PM ET

President Trump's two business advisory groups have fallen apart in the wake of his remarks on Charlottesville.

As one CEO after another quit his manufacturing group, Trump said on Wednesday that he was disbanding both groups.

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#1503505 --- 08/16/17 09:59 PM Re: US Hate-Groups Exposed [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
This would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/16/news/trump-manufacturing-council-ceos/index.html

White House business panels collapse as CEOs flee Trump

by Jill Disis, Julia Horowitz and Cristina Alesci @CNNMoney August 16, 2017: 2:08 PM ET

President Trump's two business advisory groups have fallen apart in the wake of his remarks on Charlottesville.

As one CEO after another quit his manufacturing group, Trump said on Wednesday that he was disbanding both groups.
Everybody is a bunch of wussies! Afraid they may hurt somebodies feelings! Poor babies! No back bone at all!

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#1503517 --- 08/17/17 01:20 AM Re: US Hate-Groups Exposed [Re: gassy one]
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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/16/trump-charlottesville-temper-chaos-241721

‘He is stubborn and doesn't realize how bad this is getting’

The Charlottesville furor is the latest example of the chaos that can result from Trump’s temper and refusal to back down.

By NANCY COOK and JOSH DAWSEY


President Donald Trump’s decision to double down on his argument that “both sides” were to blame for the violent clashes at a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, was driven in part by his own anger — and his disdain for being told what to do.

Trump’s temper has been a constant force in this eight-month-old White House. He’s made policy decisions after becoming irritated with staffers and has escalated fights in the past few weeks with everyone from the Senate majority leader to the volatile dictator of North Korea.

The controversy over his response to the Charlottesville violence was no different. Agitated about being pressured by aides to clarify his first public statement, Trump unexpectedly unwound the damage control of the prior two days by assigning blame to the “alt-left” and calling some of the white supremacist protesters “very fine people.”

“In some ways, Trump would rather have people calling him racist than say he backed down the minute he was wrong,” one adviser to the White House said on Wednesday about Charlottesville. “This may turn into the biggest mess of his presidency because he is stubborn and doesn't realize how bad this is getting.”

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