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#1503213 --- 08/12/17 02:20 AM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: gassy one]
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/10/politics/cnn-poll-russia-investigation-trump-finances/index.html

Seventy percent of Americans believe the federal investigation into Russia's efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election in the US should be able to look into President Donald Trump's finances, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS.

Sixty percent of those polled view the probe as a serious matter that should be fully investigated, and a significant minority, 38%, view it as an effort to discredit Trump's presidency. By a roughly two-to-one margin, those polled disapprove of the way Trump is handling the Russia probe (59% disapprove, 31% approve).
You just want them to be able to go on a fishing expedition and use it for partisan politics as usual Kyle!
Seventy percent of Americans believe otherwise. You are part of the ever shrinking percentage who doesn't get it.
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#1503223 --- 08/12/17 06:33 AM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: kyle585]
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J.C.!!!!! Trump may be a dictator yet! OMG. Are Republicans voters really this stupid?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/republicans-willing-suspend-2020-us-190743332.html

More than half of Republican voters surveyed said they would be in favour of suspending the 2020 election if Donald Trump asked for more time to weed out illegal voters, a new poll shows.

According to the poll, run by two academic researchers and published in the Washington Post, 52 per cent of those Republicans would agree with postponing the election if the President felt it was necessary.
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#1503224 --- 08/12/17 06:34 AM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: kyle585]
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Is this you gassy?

In terms of how this support breaks down, it is "more prevalent among Republicans who were younger, were less educated, had less factual knowledge of politics and strongly identified with the party."
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#1503265 --- 08/12/17 09:17 PM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/10/politics/cnn-poll-russia-investigation-trump-finances/index.html

Seventy percent of Americans believe the federal investigation into Russia's efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election in the US should be able to look into President Donald Trump's finances, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS.

Sixty percent of those polled view the probe as a serious matter that should be fully investigated, and a significant minority, 38%, view it as an effort to discredit Trump's presidency. By a roughly two-to-one margin, those polled disapprove of the way Trump is handling the Russia probe (59% disapprove, 31% approve).
You just want them to be able to go on a fishing expedition and use it for partisan politics as usual Kyle!
Seventy percent of Americans believe otherwise. You are part of the ever shrinking percentage who doesn't get it.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...ions/ar-AApTKuN

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#1503266 --- 08/12/17 09:19 PM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: kyle585]
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J.C.!!!!! Trump may be a dictator yet! OMG. Are Republicans voters really this stupid?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/republicans-willing-suspend-2020-us-190743332.html

More than half of Republican voters surveyed said they would be in favour of suspending the 2020 election if Donald Trump asked for more time to weed out illegal voters, a new poll shows.

According to the poll, run by two academic researchers and published in the Washington Post, 52 per cent of those Republicans would agree with postponing the election if the President felt it was necessary.
Trump has got them on the run and out of this country! So many Haitians are fleeing to Canada that they had to make the old Olympic Stadium into a refugee camp! BYE BYE freeloaders!

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#1503275 --- 08/12/17 09:31 PM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
J.C.!!!!! Trump may be a dictator yet! OMG. Are Republicans voters really this stupid?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/republicans-willing-suspend-2020-us-190743332.html

More than half of Republican voters surveyed said they would be in favour of suspending the 2020 election if Donald Trump asked for more time to weed out illegal voters, a new poll shows.

According to the poll, run by two academic researchers and published in the Washington Post, 52 per cent of those Republicans would agree with postponing the election if the President felt it was necessary.
Trump has got them on the run and out of this country! So many Haitians are fleeing to Canada that they had to make the old Olympic Stadium into a refugee camp! BYE BYE freeloaders!
What has that got to do with suspending the 2020 election? This and nuclear war are the two scariest proposals from Trump so far.
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#1503284 --- 08/12/17 09:41 PM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
J.C.!!!!! Trump may be a dictator yet! OMG. Are Republicans voters really this stupid?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/republicans-willing-suspend-2020-us-190743332.html

More than half of Republican voters surveyed said they would be in favour of suspending the 2020 election if Donald Trump asked for more time to weed out illegal voters, a new poll shows.

According to the poll, run by two academic researchers and published in the Washington Post, 52 per cent of those Republicans would agree with postponing the election if the President felt it was necessary.
Trump has got them on the run and out of this country! So many Haitians are fleeing to Canada that they had to make the old Olympic Stadium into a refugee camp! BYE BYE freeloaders!
What has that got to do with suspending the 2020 election? This and nuclear war are the two scariest proposals from Trump so far.
They won't be here to vote in the election or suck up government benefits anymore!

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#1503293 --- 08/12/17 09:50 PM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
They won't be here to vote in the election or suck up government benefits anymore!
Are you one of those far right lunatics who think 3-5 million illegals voted in the last election?
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#1503295 --- 08/12/17 09:52 PM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: kyle585]
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They won't be here to vote in the election or suck up government benefits anymore!
Are you one of those far right lunatics who think 3-5 million illegals voted in the last election?
Not that many but I'm sure some did!

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#1503299 --- 08/12/17 09:56 PM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
They won't be here to vote in the election or suck up government benefits anymore!
Are you one of those far right lunatics who think 3-5 million illegals voted in the last election?
Not that many but I'm sure some did!
They did find one such voter in Colorado. They deported this grandmother who had been here 20 years and split up a hard working family. It was on the TV news. So do you agree that Hillary won the popular vote or not?
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#1503305 --- 08/12/17 10:04 PM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
They won't be here to vote in the election or suck up government benefits anymore!
Are you one of those far right lunatics who think 3-5 million illegals voted in the last election?
Not that many but I'm sure some did!
They did find one such voter in Colorado. They deported this grandmother who had been here 20 years and split up a hard working family. It was on the TV news. So do you agree that Hillary won the popular vote or not?
If you are here illegally then you need to go if you been here 1 year or twenty! Doesn't matter! You broke the law! BYE BYE! As far as the vote I'm not sure how many illegals voted! In states that require no ID we may never know!

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#1503346 --- 08/14/17 01:42 AM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: gassy one]
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Read all this gassy and see if you are as ignorant as Trump.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/13/why-trump-cant-say-the-obvious-215481?lo=ap_a1

The president won’t condemn white supremacy because he has no appreciation for America’s tragic history.

By JEFF GREENFIELD August 13, 2017


It’s long past Passover, but the latest effusions from Donald Trump bring to mind the question that begins that ritual: “Why is this president different from all other presidents?”

Would any past president have not understood the need to read the collection of racists, neo-Nazis, anti-Semites and the euphemistically labeled “white nationalists” out of the company of decent men and women, rather than make morally bankrupt talk of violence “on many sides” and dog-whistling about the need to “cherish our history”? Would any past president have compounded the felony with a dismissive, clumsy tweet? (“Condolences to the family of the young woman killed today, and best regards to all of those injured, in Charlottesville, Virginia. So sad!”)

But then, we have never had a president, of either party, or any political persuasion, so utterly disconnected from any understanding of our national history, of the still-unresolved fights over what it means to be a “real” American. Nor have we ever had a president who combines staggering historical and political ignorance with language skills that rank him somewhere around a indolent 9-year old.

Consider how past Republican presidents dealt with controversies in which a political ally had crossed a clear bright line:

In 1976, on a flight after the Republican convention, conservative pop singer Pat Boone asked Gerald Ford’s agriculture secretary, Earl Butz, why the Republican Party couldn’t attract more black voters. “I’ll tell you what the coloreds want,” Butz said. “It’s three things: first, a tight pussy; second, loose shoes; and third, a warm place to shit.” When the comment was published in Rolling Stone—the author of the piece was Watergate figure John Dean—Butz was forced out of the Cabinet.

In September 1981, Interior Secretary James Watt was addressing lobbyists at a Chamber of Commerce breakfast meeting. Speaking about the different advisory panels offering guidance to the department, he said of one: “I got a black, two Jews, a woman and a cripple. And I’ve got talent.” The remark got hearty laughter from his audience, but the insulting nature of the comment drew enough fire that he left the Cabinet a month later.

On December 5, 2002, Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott spoke at the 100th birthday celebration of South Carolina Senator Strom Thurmond, who had run for president in 1948 on a segregationist third-party ticket. Lott said: "When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we [the state of Mississippi] voted for him. We’re proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over the years, either.” It was likely meant to be a small piece of flattery, but the idea that America would have been better off with a segregationist president stuck a nerve, and President George W. Bush rebuked Lott. Speaking to a mostly black audience at a religious meeting in Philadelphia, he said: “Any suggestion that the segregated past was acceptable or positive is offensive, and it is wrong … recent comments by Senator Lott do not reflect the spirit of our country. He has apologized, and rightly so. Every day our nation was segregated was a day that America was unfaithful to our founding ideals.” Shortly thereafter, Lott stepped down from his post.

What these incidents illustrate is something more than the willingness of a president to reject offensive remarks from his side of the political aisle. They reflect an understanding that a president is not just the head of government, but the head of state as well. Ford, Ronald Reagan and Bush knew full well that the overwhelming majority of black voters would not be voting for them, but they could not permit such remarks to be deemed “acceptable.” These Republican presidents showed they understood that there were not “many sides” to a controversy when someone gives the back of his hand to one group of Americans or another, much less when someone turns his bigotry into a murderous attack on protesters.

Indeed, there was a time, not that long ago, when Republicans would actually campaign for the votes of African-Americans. Reagan gave a memorable speech to the Urban League in 1980, detailing what he called the failure of liberalism to make life better for American blacks. George W. Bush’s 2000 campaign speeches talked extensively about the failing schools in minority neighborhoods and “the soft bigotry of low expectations.”

And Trump? The simplest explanation is that “nationalism”—an outlook championed by Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller, and celebrated in his acceptance and inaugural speeches—is what’s behind Trump’s unwillingness to condemn the racists at Charlottesville. But think about it: Would any halfway rational political mind think that in condemning neo-Nazis and Klansmen, you would risk losing any part of your broader base? That crowd of losers in Charlottesville was tiny—no more than a few hundred people. Is there anything more than a small fragment of Trump’s supporters who genuinely sympathize with the white hoods and swastikas? (Some readers will no doubt answer yes, I know. I think otherwise.)

The more convincing explanation for Trump’s moral failure is that he is, and always has been, completely disconnected from any understanding of the American political tradition. It is why, uniquely among chief executives, he almost never quotes a past president or political figure or thinker, nor references any part of the country’s past. For Trump, there is no past; only himself, rising as a self-creation out of the mist. He feels no need to speak against the poison of bigotry because he has no clue about how that poison has infected our past, and still infects our present.

Among the many ways that Donald Trump is the most manifestly unfit president in American history, put this one near the top of the list.
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#1503383 --- 08/14/17 09:48 PM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: kyle585]
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I could care less about political tradition! That's why nothing in government gets done because of tradition! I want somebody in there who isn't afraid of the tough fight and to shake things up! Tell it like it is! Who cares what the other wimps say!

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#1503387 --- 08/14/17 11:04 PM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
I could care less about political tradition!

Fortunately, the VAST majority of patriotic American voters don't share your radical, alt-right sentiments.
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#1503392 --- Yesterday at 02:20 AM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
I could care less about political tradition! That's why nothing in government gets done because of tradition! I want somebody in there who isn't afraid of the tough fight and to shake things up! Tell it like it is! Who cares what the other wimps say!
Therefore you are saying all the other presidents are wrong and Trump is right. That is exactly what he thinks too.

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The more convincing explanation for Trump’s moral failure is that he is, and always has been, completely disconnected from any understanding of the American political tradition. It is why, uniquely among chief executives, he almost never quotes a past president or political figure or thinker, nor references any part of the country’s past. For Trump, there is no past; only himself, rising as a self-creation out of the mist. He feels no need to speak against the poison of bigotry because he has no clue about how that poison has infected our past, and still infects our present.
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#1503438 --- Yesterday at 10:17 PM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: kyle585]
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That's why this country is trillions in debt! Everybody has to follow tradition! Like the liberals handing out more & more taxpayer money like candy! Increasing Medicaid, Increasing snap benefits, increasing section 8! No wonder a certain portion of the people don't want to work!

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#1503452 --- Today at 01:00 AM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
That's why this country is trillions in debt! Everybody has to follow tradition! Like the liberals handing out more & more taxpayer money like candy! Increasing Medicaid, Increasing snap benefits, increasing section 8! No wonder a certain portion of the people don't want to work!
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/02/how-us-defense-spending-stacks-up-against-the-rest-of-the-world.html

The increase in U.S. defense spending follows declines in spending that accompanied the drawdown of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. But even with those cuts, the U.S. spends more than the next eight biggest national defense budgets in the world — combined.

Military spending flattened and then declined around the world following the financial crisis a decade ago. U.S. spending picked up again in 2015, topping $600 billion, according to data collected by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI).

Last year, China boosted its annual defense budget to $215 billion, making it the second largest in the world. Russia raised spending to $70 billion, making it the third largest.
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