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#1502786 --- 08/03/17 04:20 PM Re: Still More Tribal News [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/item/26600-federal-indian-policy-mom-always-liked-you-best
Monday, 31 July 2017
Federal Indian Policy: “Mom Always Liked YOU best!”
It’s 83 years late in coming, but at long last the Indian Reorganization Act of 1934 (IRA) is finally getting its first-ever review, and hopefully serious reform. IRA (48 stat. 984) forms the backbone of federal Indian policy across the country and has been extended, expanded, and abused far beyond the original intent of Congress.
In order to understand IRA and its major impacts on America, let me share an analogy. Imagine an American household with a single mom and a couple of sons, Johnny and Jimmy. One day Mom calls the family together to make an announcement. “Johnny, you were here first; Jimmy you were here second. Therefore, Johnny, you are more valuable and important than your brother. And Jimmy, you have intruded upon Johnny’s room, his life and his world, so a big chunk of everything you earn from now on and forever will be given to me, Mom, and I will redirect your earnings to Johnny. You really don’t belong here, Jimmy, because you were here second.”
This is exactly what has been happening in our country for 83 years. Since the Tribes (Johnny) tell the government (Mom) that they were here first, the non-tribal inhabitants (Jimmy) have become second-class citizens.

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#1503886 --- 08/22/17 01:59 PM Re: Still More Tribal News [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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NY officials probe eavesdropping allegations against Senecas

Representatives of the Native American tribe that runs three casinos in western New York are accused of eavesdropping on employees of the state Gaming Commission.

The Erie County district attorney's office confirmed Tuesday that it was investigating allegations by commission workers who claimed they were eavesdropped on by the Seneca Gaming Authority, operators of the tribe's casinos in downtown Buffalo, Niagara Falls and Salamanca, near the Pennsylvania border.

Spectrum News in Buffalo first reported Monday that a listening device was found last year by commission officials in an office the agency leases from the Senecas at the tribe's Buffalo casino. Officials with the Seneca Nation of Indians said the investigation involves an employee of the Seneca Gaming Authority but provided no details.

The allegations come amid testy relations between Gov. Andrew Cuomo's administration and the Senecas over the tribe's halting of payments of tens of millions of dollars in casino revenue to the state.

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 1:38 PM

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#1504188 --- 08/28/17 08:46 AM Re: Still More Tribal News [Re: newsman38]
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https://www.casinopedia.org/news/new-york-governor-ups-the-ante-in-a-seneca-nation-casino-dispute

• New York Governor Andrew Cuomo threatening to break the casino compact with the Seneca Nation Indians

• The dispute was caused by the Seneca Nation failing to meet their monthly obligations to the state
The Seneca Nation Indians and the state of New York have been in a dispute over casino payments for some time now.
The tribe is refusing to pay what they are supposed to pay according to the compact with the state, and Governor Andrew Cuomo seems to have had enough.

Cuomo is now threatening with the dissolution of the compact if the Seneca Nation don’t pay what they owe.
Back in 2002, New York State signed a compact with the tribe, allowing them the exclusive right to operate a casino in the Western part of New York until 2023.
However, the compact is contingent on monthly payments by the casino, the last of which was delivered in March of this year. In light of this, Cuomo has made it clear that the state is looking into the possibility of granting a new casino license for a venue that would be located in the Niagara Falls region and wouldn’t be operated by the Seneca Nation.

I think the Governor screwed up the compact. But if they’re not going to pay the State, he has nothing to lose by breaking it.

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#1504766 --- 09/14/17 02:17 PM Re: Still More Tribal News [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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New York Governor Andrew Cuomo threatening to break the casino compact with the Seneca Nation Indians


is it not his fathers fault for 'cozying' up to halbritters illegal operations many many years ago and in do so his father had to look the other way in regards to other 'tribes' illegal business operations in NYS
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#1505458 --- 09/27/17 03:39 PM Re: Still More Tribal News [Re: newsman38]
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Originally Posted By: newsman38
The allegations come amid testy relations between Gov. Andrew Cuomo's administration and the Senecas over the tribe's halting of payments of tens of millions of dollars in casino revenue to the state.


foreclose on all their properties
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#1506270 --- 10/09/17 07:08 AM Re: Still More Tribal News [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY !

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#1506271 --- 10/09/17 07:36 AM Re: Still More Tribal News [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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Goodbye Columbus....Happy Indigenous Peoples Day!

Columbus, your ship may have sailed: Indigenous Peoples Day picks up steam
Read on: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017...-day/744210001/
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#1506278 --- 10/09/17 11:12 AM Re: Still More Tribal News [Re: Teonan]
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I really don't care if we do away with Columbus day or not. What I want is for Native Americans in the USA to pay the same taxes as all other American citizens and abide by all American laws and not treat them as super citizens. We can't fix exactly and totally every misjustice that happened 500 years ago.

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#1506326 --- 10/10/17 07:03 AM Re: Still More Tribal News [Re: Teonan]
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How very nice of Indigenous People to honor Columbus by celebrating his arrival the same day but steam is still just wet hot air.

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#1506368 --- 10/10/17 03:56 PM Re: Still More Tribal News [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
I really don't care if we do away with Columbus day or not. What I want is for Native Americans in the USA to pay the same taxes as all other American citizens and abide by all American laws and not treat them as super citizens. We can't fix exactly and totally every misjustice that happened 500 years ago.

And GO!... crazy
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#1506411 --- 10/11/17 07:29 AM Re: Still More Tribal News [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: kyle585
I really don't care if we do away with Columbus day or not. What I want is for Native Americans in the USA to pay the same taxes as all other American citizens and abide by all American laws and not treat them as super citizens. We can't fix exactly and totally every misjustice that happened 500 years ago.

And GO!... crazy
And go? I don't understand your reply?

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#1508390 --- 11/07/17 05:39 PM Re: Still More Tribal News [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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#1510894 --- 12/15/17 06:19 AM Re: Still More Tribal News [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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since obama has left office have not heard much from halbritter about changing the washington NFL team name
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#1510927 --- 12/15/17 11:14 AM Re: Still More Tribal News [Re: bluezone]
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Ebb and flow, Pal.
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#1510943 --- 12/15/17 02:34 PM Re: Still More Tribal News [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
since obama has left office have not heard much from halbritter about changing the washington NFL team name

SCOTUS ruled against him. He lost the lawsuit after an oriental rock band won the right to register the name Slants as their trademark. Not so strangely there are 62 high schools in 22 states that have a team called Redskins and proud of it. This Oct. 2014 article link below mentions the lawsuit. The Plaintiff claims that the poll showing 9 out of 10 Native Americans are not offended by it doesn't count because that is ten years old. Well, in the end she got a ruling that was current. The Trademark stands as legal and Halbritter lost. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/in-...m=.c31642875a9e

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#1510954 --- 12/15/17 03:45 PM Re: Still More Tribal News [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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Go Romulus Warriors!

https://scorestream.com/team/romulus-high-school-warriors-12534

Romulus High School
Home of the Warriors
High School Romulus, NY

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#1511354 --- 12/20/17 07:30 PM Re: Still More Tribal News [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
Originally Posted By: bluezone
since obama has left office have not heard much from halbritter about changing the washington NFL team name

SCOTUS ruled against him. He lost the lawsuit after an oriental rock band won the right to register the name Slants as their trademark. The Trademark stands as legal and Halbritter lost.



NYS politicans look the other with NY 'tribes' and SCOTUS rulings

Quote:
Court sides with Sherrill
Supreme Court justices rule 8-1
Oneida Nation must pay tax to city
Wed, Mar 30, 2005
R. PATRICK CORBETT Observer-Dispatch

The Oneida Indian Nation must pay taxes on its property in the city of Sherrill and potentially on all land it has bought outside of its 32-acre reservation in Madison County, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Tuesday . In an 8-1 decision, the court ruled that the New York Oneidas cannot disrupt two centuries of local development by refusing to pay local taxes on a gas station and T-shirt factory it owns in Sherrill in Oneida County. New York City lawyer Ira Sacks, who pleaded Sherrill's case pro bono, said, "We were very pleased. The Supreme Court agreed with the principal argument that after 200 years ... the Oneida Indian Nation can't pick and choose places to buy and take it out of local jurisdiction." The justices also remarked on the "distinctly non-Indian character of the area and its inhabitants," because most Oneida Indians moved out of the area about 150 years ago.
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#1511903 --- 01/04/18 12:54 PM Re: Still More Tribal News [Re: bluezone]
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Cuomo plans to sue opioid manufacturers for allegedly violating rules on the monitoring and reporting of suspicious drug shipments


but he looks the other way with 'tribal' shipments/sales of cigs in NYS

Quote:
"They pumped these pills into society and they created addictions," Cuomo said. "Like the tobacco industry they killed thousands. We will make them pay."


far more cigs sales by the 'tribes' than what he is talking about

will cuomo make the 'tribes' pay?
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#1512845 --- 01/30/18 02:01 PM Re: Still More Tribal News [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
• New York Governor Andrew Cuomo threatening to break the casino compact with the Seneca Nation Indians


collect the cig and gas taxes also
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#1513004 --- 02/04/18 01:50 PM Re: Still More Tribal News [Re: bluezone]
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Federal law bars the state from taxing Native Americans or businesses headquartered on Indian lands. The Senecas have indicated a willingness to negotiate some payments to the host communities for each casino.

As the Senecas correctly point out, the compact remains in effect, but the payment schedule ran out in 2016.

The state failed to take notice of that fact. Now they know how NA's feel.
smirk
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