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#1502649 --- 07/31/17 02:35 PM Trump "Fritzing Out"
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From the Desk of Robert Reich:

This morning I phoned my friend, a former Republican member of Congress.

Me: What's going on? Seems like the White House is imploding, and Republicans are going down with the ship.

Him (chuckling): We’re officially a banana republic.

Me: Seriously, what are you hearing from your former colleagues on the Hill?

Him: They’re convinced Trump is out of his gourd.

Me: So what are they going to do about it?

Him: Remember what I told you at the start of this circus? They planned to use Trump’s antics for cover, to get done what they most wanted – big tax cuts, rollbacks of regulations, especially financial. They’d work with Pence behind the scenes and forget the crazy uncle in the attic.

Me: Yeah.

Him: Well, I’m hearing a different story now. Stuff with Sessions is pissing them off. And now Trump's hired that horse’s ass Scaramucci -- a communications director who talks dirty on CNN! Plus Trump’s numbers are in freefall. They think he’s gonna hurt them in ’18 and ’20.

Me: So what’s the plan?

Him: They want him outa there.

Me: Really? Impeachment?

Him: Doubt it, unless Mueller comes up with a smoking gun.

Me: Or if he fires Mueller.

Him: Not gonna happen.

Me: So how do they get him out?

Him: Put someone else up in ’20. Lots of maneuvering already. Pence, obviously. Cruz thinks he has a shot.

Me: But that won’t help them in the midterms. What’s the plan before then?

Him: Lots think he’s fritzing out.

Me: Fritzing out?

Him: Going totally bananas. Paranoia. You want to know why he fired Priebus, wants Sessions out, and is now gunning for Tillerson?

Me: He wants to shake things up?

Him (chuckling): No. The way I hear it, he thinks they’ve been plotting against him.

Me: What do you mean?

Him: Twenty-fifth amendment! Read it! A Cabinet can get rid of a president who’s nuts. Trump thinks they’ve been preparing a palace coup. So one by one, he’s firing them.

Me: I find it hard to believe they’re plotting against him.

Him: Of course not! It’s ludicrous. Sessions is a loyal lapdog. Tillerson doesn't know where the bathroom is. That’s my point. Trump is fritzing out. Having manic delusions. He’s actually going nuts.

Me: And?

Him: Well, it’s downright dangerous.

Me: Yeah, but that still doesn’t tell me what Republicans are planning to do about it.

Him: Look. How long do you think it will be before everyone in Washington knows he’s flipping out? I don’t mean just weird. I mean really off his rocker.

Me: I don’t know.

Him: No all that long.

Me: So what are you telling me?

Him: They don’t have to plot against him. It will be obvious to everyone that he’s got to go. That’s where the twenty-fifth amendment really does comes in.

Me: So you think…

Him: Who knows? But he’s losing it fast. My betting is he’s out of office before the midterms. And Pence is president.
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#1502671 --- 07/31/17 09:48 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Timbo]
gassy one Offline
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Originally Posted By: Timbo

From the Desk of Robert Reich:

This morning I phoned my friend, a former Republican member of Congress.

Me: What's going on? Seems like the White House is imploding, and Republicans are going down with the ship.

Him (chuckling): We’re officially a banana republic.

Me: Seriously, what are you hearing from your former colleagues on the Hill?

Him: They’re convinced Trump is out of his gourd.

Me: So what are they going to do about it?

Him: Remember what I told you at the start of this circus? They planned to use Trump’s antics for cover, to get done what they most wanted – big tax cuts, rollbacks of regulations, especially financial. They’d work with Pence behind the scenes and forget the crazy uncle in the attic.

Me: Yeah.

Him: Well, I’m hearing a different story now. Stuff with Sessions is pissing them off. And now Trump's hired that horse’s ass Scaramucci -- a communications director who talks dirty on CNN! Plus Trump’s numbers are in freefall. They think he’s gonna hurt them in ’18 and ’20.

Me: So what’s the plan?

Him: They want him outa there.

Me: Really? Impeachment?

Him: Doubt it, unless Mueller comes up with a smoking gun.

Me: Or if he fires Mueller.

Him: Not gonna happen.

Me: So how do they get him out?

Him: Put someone else up in ’20. Lots of maneuvering already. Pence, obviously. Cruz thinks he has a shot.

Me: But that won’t help them in the midterms. What’s the plan before then?

Him: Lots think he’s fritzing out.

Me: Fritzing out?

Him: Going totally bananas. Paranoia. You want to know why he fired Priebus, wants Sessions out, and is now gunning for Tillerson?

Me: He wants to shake things up?

Him (chuckling): No. The way I hear it, he thinks they’ve been plotting against him.

Me: What do you mean?

Him: Twenty-fifth amendment! Read it! A Cabinet can get rid of a president who’s nuts. Trump thinks they’ve been preparing a palace coup. So one by one, he’s firing them.

Me: I find it hard to believe they’re plotting against him.

Him: Of course not! It’s ludicrous. Sessions is a loyal lapdog. Tillerson doesn't know where the bathroom is. That’s my point. Trump is fritzing out. Having manic delusions. He’s actually going nuts.

Me: And?

Him: Well, it’s downright dangerous.

Me: Yeah, but that still doesn’t tell me what Republicans are planning to do about it.

Him: Look. How long do you think it will be before everyone in Washington knows he’s flipping out? I don’t mean just weird. I mean really off his rocker.

Me: I don’t know.

Him: No all that long.

Me: So what are you telling me?

Him: They don’t have to plot against him. It will be obvious to everyone that he’s got to go. That’s where the twenty-fifth amendment really does comes in.

Me: So you think…

Him: Who knows? But he’s losing it fast. My betting is he’s out of office before the midterms. And Pence is president.
Reich! What a joke! Crackpot like you BIMBO!

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#1502831 --- 08/04/17 06:04 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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http://theweek.com/speedreads/716436/mue...des-are-worried

Mueller has apparently crossed Trump's 'red line,' and White House aides are worried

On Thursday afternoon, as President Trump was heading to a rally in West Virginia, The Wall Street Journal reported that Special Counsel Robert Mueller has impaneled a grand jury in Washington, D.C., to investigate possible criminal charges against Trump's campaign, business, or administration associates, perhaps even Trump himself, in Mueller's expanding Russia investigation. The grand jury, in place for a few weeks, has already issued subpoenas in connection with Donald Trump Jr.'s June 2016 meeting with a Kremlin-backed lawyer, Reuters reports, and CNN says Mueller's investigation has veered into any financial ties Trump, his family, and his associates have to Russia.

The reports set off alarm bells in the White House, because of the increasing legal jeopardy but also out of concern that Trump could make things worse, The Daily Beast reports. In an interview with The New York Times last month, Trump agreed with the idea that Mueller digging into his family's finances would cross a "red line" and be a "violation." If the new reports are accurate, Mueller is well on the other side of that line. "The worry is what the president does now," one senior Trump official told The Daily Beast. "Just keep him off the Twitter and on the teleprompter."

Trump offered a relatively subdued denial at the West Virginia rally, calling the "Russia story" a "total fabrication." But the big concern is that he would order Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to fire Mueller — a decision that would set off what one White House adviser called an "apocalyptic sh--storm." Two different bipartisan pairs of senators introduced legislation Thursday to shield Mueller from firing, and two White House officials told The Daily Beast that White House Chief of Staff John Kelly would strenuously oppose such a move.

But "people react really stupidly to these proceedings all the time," and "Trump and his team seem incapable, as a matter of character, to react ... in a prudent way or follow good advice or do the things you have to do to survive it," former federal prosecutor Ken White tells The Daily Beast. "They convince other people to lie for them, they destroy documents, they come up with lies they're going to tell themselves, they do all sorts of idiotic things — not realizing part of a fed prosecutor's point is often to drive them to do that." You can read more at The Daily Beast. Peter Weber

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#1502849 --- 08/05/17 09:56 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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DRAMA! DRAMA! KYLE! ROFLMAO!

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#1502857 --- 08/06/17 02:58 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
DRAMA! DRAMA! KYLE! ROFLMAO!
Quote:
Mueller has apparently crossed Trump's 'red line,' and White House aides are worried.
I don't know if you are not worried or are just pretending you are not. White House aides are worried and Trump himself is furious.

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#1502861 --- 08/06/17 09:12 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
DRAMA! DRAMA! KYLE! ROFLMAO!
Quote:
Mueller has apparently crossed Trump's 'red line,' and White House aides are worried.
I don't know if you are not worried or are just pretending you are not. White House aides are worried and Trump himself is furious.
Not worried at all! What happens happens! Life goes on and you sore losers will find something new to rant on!

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#1502873 --- 08/06/17 01:51 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2...ou-think-215465

Jeff Sessions' Attack on the Media Is Worse Than You Think

Equating the free press to spies is dark and dangerous.

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#1502875 --- 08/06/17 02:01 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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WASHINGTON, Aug 6 (Reuters) - One of the top officials at the U.S. Justice Department said Sunday that the agency’s heightened focus on policing leaks of classified information is not intended to put journalists in legal jeopardy.

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein emphasized that the department’s renewed effort to prosecute leaks of classified information is not aimed at the news media.

“We’re after the leakers, not the journalists,” he said on “Fox News Sunday.” “We don’t prosecute journalists for doing their jobs.”

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#1502987 --- 08/08/17 08:11 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/kasich-would-now-beat-trump-in-nh-primary-poll-1019737155707

Kasich would now beat Trump in NH primary: poll

While John Kasich finished second to Donald Trump in the 2016 New Hampshire primaries, if the primary were held today, Kasich would lead Trump 52 to 40, according to a new poll.

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#1503002 --- 08/08/17 02:26 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-is-like-porn-for-aggrieved-men

Fox News Is Like Porn for Aggrieved Men

As more accusations emerge of sexual misconduct by male hosts, it’s starting to seem like Fox News is a sexism organization that dabbles in news rather than the other way around.


“Fox News” has “news” right there in the name. Its programming features people sitting behind desks or on chairs in artificial interior space-command landscapes lit in America-themed computer graphics. Chyrons conveying information of some kind appear below the faces of its personalities. Many people who work at Fox care deeply about reporting and contextualizing news. It certainly looks like news.

But, in the last year and change, Fox’s work has been overshadowed by the alleged offscreen conduct of its male hosts. Fox News’s mothership has produced a baseball team’s worth of sexual harassment complaints and won zero Peabody awards.

At this point, Fox News seems to be functioning less like a news organization with a sexism problem and more like a sexism organization with a news hobby.

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#1503008 --- 08/08/17 03:02 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585

NAILED IT! grin
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#1503024 --- 08/08/17 06:26 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Timbo]
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10 months later and you (liberals) still can't believe that your side lost and is losing big in every venue. I was on your side of the aisle because of the indoctrination known as parents but the military showed me to way. Get over it! Trump won.

I suppose you think CNN and Rachel Maddow is the answer to all our whatevers.

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#1503027 --- 08/08/17 06:34 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Woolyone]
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Trump 33% current approval rating shows how pathetic he and he is going nowhere but down.

http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/kasich-would-now-beat-trump-in-nh-primary-poll-1019737155707

Kasich would now beat Trump in NH primary: poll

While John Kasich finished second to Donald Trump in the 2016 New Hampshire primaries, if the primary were held today, Kasich would lead Trump 52 to 40, according to a new poll.

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#1503030 --- 08/08/17 06:36 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Woolyone]
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Originally Posted By: Woolyone
10 months later and you (liberals) still can't believe that your side lost and is losing big in every venue. I was on your side of the aisle because of the indoctrination known as parents but the military showed me to way. Get over it! Trump won.
Trump won with the help of his buddy Putin. That is disgusting beyond words.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ba...f-any-president

Retired Army Gen. Barry McCaffrey said in an interview Monday that President Donald Trump’s comments about Russian President Vladimir Putin might be “the most anti-American statement” ever made by a U.S. president.

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#1503031 --- 08/08/17 06:37 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Woolyone]
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Originally Posted By: Woolyone
10 months later and you (liberals) still can't believe that your side lost and is losing big in every venue.
Losing big in every venue? What in the hell are you talking about?

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/345662-the-memo-signs-of-trouble-emerge-in-trumps-base

President Trump took to Twitter on Monday to boast about the strength of his base of support. But polling tells a different story.

Trump, who is at his Bedminster, N.J., golf club, lambasted the media on Monday — his 200th day in office — insisting, “The Trump base is far bigger & stronger than ever before (despite some phony Fake News polling).”

As evidence, he cited large crowds at rallies in states including Pennsylvania, Iowa and Ohio.

But polls indicate that his base is in fact showing signs of erosion.

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#1503034 --- 08/08/17 07:03 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Woolyone]
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Originally Posted By: Woolyone
I suppose you think CNN and Rachel Maddow is the answer to all our whatevers.
Do you agree with Trump that the press is the enemy of the people? The press is the only thing keeping us from living under a dictator like Putin.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...eople/98347970/

President Trump turned his speech before a conservative convention into a full-throated attack on journalism Friday, saying some reporters make up unnamed sources for "fake news" and again describing them as "the enemy" of the American people.

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#1503046 --- 08/08/17 10:02 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Woolyone
I suppose you think CNN and Rachel Maddow is the answer to all our whatevers.
Do you agree with Trump that the press is the enemy of the people? The press is the only thing keeping us from living under a dictator like Putin.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...eople/98347970/

President Trump turned his speech before a conservative convention into a full-throated attack on journalism Friday, saying some reporters make up unnamed sources for "fake news" and again describing them as "the enemy" of the American people.

That's because they don't report the news they present it to reflect their own beliefs!

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#1503062 --- 08/09/17 01:37 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Woolyone
I suppose you think CNN and Rachel Maddow is the answer to all our whatevers.
Do you agree with Trump that the press is the enemy of the people? The press is the only thing keeping us from living under a dictator like Putin.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...eople/98347970/

President Trump turned his speech before a conservative convention into a full-throated attack on journalism Friday, saying some reporters make up unnamed sources for "fake news" and again describing them as "the enemy" of the American people.
That's because they don't report the news they present it to reflect their own beliefs!
Let me ask for the 100th time. Where do you get your news? How do you get educated on what is happening out in the world?

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#1503093 --- 08/09/17 08:59 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Woolyone
I suppose you think CNN and Rachel Maddow is the answer to all our whatevers.
Do you agree with Trump that the press is the enemy of the people? The press is the only thing keeping us from living under a dictator like Putin.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...eople/98347970/

President Trump turned his speech before a conservative convention into a full-throated attack on journalism Friday, saying some reporters make up unnamed sources for "fake news" and again describing them as "the enemy" of the American people.
That's because they don't report the news they present it to reflect their own beliefs!
Let me ask for the 100th time. Where do you get your news? How do you get educated on what is happening out in the world?
Same places you do Kyle! I don't fall for all the partisan crap like you do!

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#1503121 --- 08/09/17 01:05 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Woolyone
I suppose you think CNN and Rachel Maddow is the answer to all our whatevers.
Do you agree with Trump that the press is the enemy of the people? The press is the only thing keeping us from living under a dictator like Putin.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...eople/98347970/

President Trump turned his speech before a conservative convention into a full-throated attack on journalism Friday, saying some reporters make up unnamed sources for "fake news" and again describing them as "the enemy" of the American people.
That's because they don't report the news they present it to reflect their own beliefs!

Where's your evidence?
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#1503138 --- 08/09/17 09:56 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Woolyone
I suppose you think CNN and Rachel Maddow is the answer to all our whatevers.
Do you agree with Trump that the press is the enemy of the people? The press is the only thing keeping us from living under a dictator like Putin.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...eople/98347970/

President Trump turned his speech before a conservative convention into a full-throated attack on journalism Friday, saying some reporters make up unnamed sources for "fake news" and again describing them as "the enemy" of the American people.
That's because they don't report the news they present it to reflect their own beliefs!

Where's your evidence?
Anybody with at least half a brain which excludes you would know that!

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#1503149 --- 08/10/17 09:47 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/10/trump-afghanistan-generals-indecision-241463

Trump's indecision on Afghanistan leaves generals in lurch

The commanders missed early warning signs that the president might not immediately approve their plan for more troops.

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#1503207 --- 08/11/17 10:50 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/10/trump-afghanistan-generals-indecision-241463

Trump's indecision on Afghanistan leaves generals in lurch

The commanders missed early warning signs that the president might not immediately approve their plan for more troops.
Got to get North Korea settled before Trump can make to many decisions Kyle! Only so many troops & equipment to go around !


Edited by gassy one (08/11/17 10:50 PM)

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#1503214 --- 08/12/17 02:23 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/10/trump-afghanistan-generals-indecision-241463

Trump's indecision on Afghanistan leaves generals in lurch

The commanders missed early warning signs that the president might not immediately approve their plan for more troops.
Got to get North Korea settled before Trump can make to many decisions Kyle! Only so many troops & equipment to go around !
He will never get North Korea settled. On TV yesterday they reminded the listeners that Trump ran as a non interventionist candidate. Now he is even talking about military action in Venezuela! He takes two sides of every issue depending on what day of the week it is!

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#1503271 --- 08/12/17 09:26 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/10/trump-afghanistan-generals-indecision-241463

Trump's indecision on Afghanistan leaves generals in lurch

The commanders missed early warning signs that the president might not immediately approve their plan for more troops.
Got to get North Korea settled before Trump can make to many decisions Kyle! Only so many troops & equipment to go around !
He will never get North Korea settled. On TV yesterday they reminded the listeners that Trump ran as a non interventionist candidate. Now he is even talking about military action in Venezuela! He takes two sides of every issue depending on what day of the week it is!
He's got more cohones than Obama ever did!

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#1503272 --- 08/12/17 09:28 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/10/trump-afghanistan-generals-indecision-241463

Trump's indecision on Afghanistan leaves generals in lurch

The commanders missed early warning signs that the president might not immediately approve their plan for more troops.
Got to get North Korea settled before Trump can make to many decisions Kyle! Only so many troops & equipment to go around !
He will never get North Korea settled. On TV yesterday they reminded the listeners that Trump ran as a non interventionist candidate. Now he is even talking about military action in Venezuela! He takes two sides of every issue depending on what day of the week it is!
He's got more cohones than Obama ever did!
Then why did Trump run as a non-interventionist candidate and suddenly do a 180 degree turn? How is anyone supposed to believe anything he says?

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#1503288 --- 08/12/17 09:45 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/10/trump-afghanistan-generals-indecision-241463

Trump's indecision on Afghanistan leaves generals in lurch

The commanders missed early warning signs that the president might not immediately approve their plan for more troops.
Got to get North Korea settled before Trump can make to many decisions Kyle! Only so many troops & equipment to go around !
He will never get North Korea settled. On TV yesterday they reminded the listeners that Trump ran as a non interventionist candidate. Now he is even talking about military action in Venezuela! He takes two sides of every issue depending on what day of the week it is!
He's got more cohones than Obama ever did!
Then why did Trump run as a non-interventionist candidate and suddenly do a 180 degree turn? How is anyone supposed to believe anything he says?
Don't have much choice with N KOREA! Obama didn't get the job done and passed the buck on!

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#1503291 --- 08/12/17 09:49 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Don't have much choice with N KOREA! Obama didn't get the job done and passed the buck on!
Obama Obama. Do you realize this has been going with North Korea for 70 years now?

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#1503298 --- 08/12/17 09:54 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Don't have much choice with N KOREA! Obama didn't get the job done and passed the buck on!
Obama Obama. Do you realize this has been going with North Korea for 70 years now?
Not developing Nukes, That ballooned big time under Obama! Sanctions worked well didn't they? ROFLMAO!


Edited by gassy one (08/12/17 09:54 PM)

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#1503523 --- 08/17/17 07:02 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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From Fox News.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/...ponse-slam.html

President Trump lashed out early Thursday morning at fellow Republican Lindsey Graham, accusing the South Carolina senator of a “disgusting lie” for saying the president drew a “moral equivalency” between white supremacists and those who protested them in Charlottesville.

“Publicity seeking Lindsey Graham falsely stated that I said there is moral equivalency between the KKK, neo-Nazis & white supremacists … and people like Ms. Heyer. Such a disgusting lie. He just can't forget his election trouncing.The people of South Carolina will remember!” Trump tweeted.

The president’s reference to the election invoked Graham’s short-lived bid for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination which Trump ultimately won.

While numerous elected Republicans have criticized Trump for his response to the Charlottesville violence over the weekend, Graham issued a particularly harsh condemnation on Wednesday.

He said: “Through his statements yesterday, President Trump took a step backward by again suggesting there is moral equivalency between the white supremacist neo-Nazis and KKK members who attended the Charlottesville rally and people like Ms. Heyer. I, along with many others, do not endorse this moral equivalency.”

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#1503524 --- 08/17/17 07:03 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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George Takei‏Verified account @GeorgeTakei 46m46 minutes ago

I'll wager the crowd at his impeachment will be much yuger than at his inauguration.

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#1503525 --- 08/17/17 07:03 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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George Takei‏Verified account @GeorgeTakei 10h10 hours ago

The white supremacists, Nazis and KKK accomplished one thing: There is now widespread consensus across America that they are truly vile.

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#1503526 --- 08/17/17 07:04 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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He needs to check with our very own Gassy!

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#1503527 --- 08/17/17 07:06 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Need proof that GOP officials are trying to avoid talking about President Donald Trump?

How about this: They’re even turning down chances to be on Fox News.

On Wednesday, Fox host Shep Smith told viewers that he wanted to discuss the furor over Trump’s Tuesday press conference, in which the president equated white supremacists with those protesting them over the weekend in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Problem was, no one was willing to go on the air to support Trump’s statement that there were good neo-Nazis at the violent rally that killed one and injured at least 19.

Smith explained his predicament:

“Our booking team ― and they’re good ― reached out to Republicans of all stripes, across the country today. Let’s be honest, Republicans often don’t really mind coming on Fox News Channel. We couldn’t get anyone to come and defend him here, because we thought, in balance, someone should do that.”

Smith was quick to point out that just because the GOP is shying away from Trump’s controversial statements in the wake of the weekend violence, they still aren’t ready to quit him.

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#1503528 --- 08/17/17 07:06 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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PayPal shuts down access for Richard Spencer, other right-wing extremists http://huffp.st/BvF5p3W

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#1503529 --- 08/17/17 07:07 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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NBC News‏Verified account @NBCNews 2h2 hours ago

New poll finds an increase in the number of people supporting Trump being impeached http://nbcnews.to/2widQ8S

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#1503530 --- 08/17/17 07:08 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Trump’s absurd "violence on both sides" quote is now a hilarious meme http://huffp.st/rk780Hz

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#1503531 --- 08/17/17 07:12 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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CBS News‏Verified account @CBSNews 9h9 hours ago

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell responds to Trump: "There are no good neo-Nazis" http://cbsn.ws/2x6nOY6

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#1503559 --- 08/17/17 07:48 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/represent...ory?id=49281724

In response to Donald Trump’s controversial remarks about the violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, three Democrats want to censure the president.


Reps. Pramila Jayapal, D-Wash., Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., and Bonnie Watson Coleman, D-N.J., announced their intent to introduce a formal resolution of censure tomorrow when the House is back in session. A censure resolution, if adopted, would be a formal and historic rebuke from Congress of Trump's remarks.

The draft resolution from the small group of Democrats cites specific actions the representatives believe merit censure:

“Whereas President Donald Trump’s immediate public comments rebuked ‘many sides’ for the violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, and failed to specifically condemn the ‘Unite the Right’ rally or cite the white supremacist, neo-Nazi gathering as responsible for actions of domestic terrorism.”

"Whereas President Donald Trump has surrounded himself with, and cultivated the influence of, senior advisors and spokespeople who have long histories of promoting white nationalist, alt-Right, racist and anti-Semitic principles and policies within the country."

Lawmakers slam Trump for laying 'blame on both sides' in Charlottesville rally

White House: Trump finding 'convenient' time to speak with Charlottesville victim's family

What is censure?

A censure in the context of the United States government is an official statement of disapproval or condemnation towards a public official, including cabinet members, judges, members of Congress and the president. While a censure does not remove an individual from office, it can send a powerful message rebuking his or her past actions or statements.


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#1503657 --- 08/19/17 09:57 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Lawmakers slam Trump for laying 'blame on both sides' in Charlottesville rally!



They don't like hearing the truth!


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#1503684 --- 08/20/17 02:18 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Lawmakers slam Trump for laying 'blame on both sides' in Charlottesville rally!

They don't like hearing the truth!
The truth as told by Trump? Who believes him? No one. Not even member of his own party. The business community is running away fast from this president who claimed he was a business man. Turns out he told more lies than any normal business man.

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#1503738 --- 08/20/17 06:38 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Lawmakers slam Trump for laying 'blame on both sides' in Charlottesville rally!

They don't like hearing the truth!
The truth as told by Trump? Who believes him? No one. Not even member of his own party. The business community is running away fast from this president who claimed he was a business man. Turns out he told more lies than any normal business man.
The business men are threatened for fear of financial losses because the lefties don't like to hear the truth!

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#1503744 --- 08/20/17 07:52 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Lawmakers slam Trump for laying 'blame on both sides' in Charlottesville rally!

They don't like hearing the truth!
The truth as told by Trump? Who believes him? No one. Not even member of his own party. The business community is running away fast from this president who claimed he was a business man. Turns out he told more lies than any normal business man.
The business men are threatened for fear of financial losses because the lefties don't like to hear the truth!
Huh? That makes no sense.

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#1503770 --- 08/20/17 10:05 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Lawmakers slam Trump for laying 'blame on both sides' in Charlottesville rally!

They don't like hearing the truth!
The truth as told by Trump? Who believes him? No one. Not even member of his own party. The business community is running away fast from this president who claimed he was a business man. Turns out he told more lies than any normal business man.
The business men are threatened for fear of financial losses because the lefties don't like to hear the truth!
Huh? That makes no sense.
I think you are drinking ripple again!

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#1503779 --- 08/21/17 01:20 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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White House officials and members of the Republican Party’s leadership were notably absent from Sunday news shows just one week after the deadly violence in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Last week began with President Donald Trump failing to clearly denounce white supremacists and neo-Nazis and ended with the firing of chief White House strategist Steve Bannon. In between, Trump blamed “both sides” for the deadly violence in Charlottesville, outraging both Republicans and Democrats for morally equating white supremacists and neo-Nazis with the demonstrators who showed up to protest their racism and anti-Semitism.

Critics also trashed Trump for further dividing the nation, and the nation’s top business leaders distanced themselves and fled from presidential councils.

“To give you a sense of how reluctant Republicans are to talk about President Trump this week, not one member of the current Republican leadership in Congress agreed to come on the broadcast this morning,” Chuck Todd, host of “Meet the Press,” told viewers. “In fact, even the White House was unable, or perhaps unwilling, to provide a guest, right down to the White House press secretary.”

Fox News host Leland Vittert told viewers that “nobody” from the White House would come on the air to discuss Bannon’s outing.

“We, along with a number of other networks, have all tried to get somebody from the administration to come on today and to talk about this big staff shakeup. Nobody will,” he said.

Instead, the White House has referred news shows to Trump supporters working outside of the administration.

ABC News’ Martha Raddatz, who hosted “This Week,” told viewers that when the program asked the White House for an official who could appear on the show, they pointed bookers to evangelical leader and Liberty University president, Jerry Fallwel Jr.

On “Fox & Friends,” Trump’s former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski discussed Bannon’s exit, while on “Fox News Sunday,” former Trump deputy campaign manager David Bossie discussed the latest White House staffing change.

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#1503801 --- 08/21/17 10:05 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Why bother its the same partisan crap over & over!

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#1503812 --- 08/21/17 11:29 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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And you have the nerve to complain about Obama's travel costs.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/201...ces-budget.html

The Trumps’ Travels Have Broken the Secret Service Budget

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#1503813 --- 08/21/17 11:30 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Another Trump lie.

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One week after launching his presidential campaign, in 2015, Donald Trump pledged to become a shut-in at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

“I would rarely leave the White House because there’s so much work to be done,” the mogul said. “I would not be a president who took vacations. I would not be a president that takes time off. You don’t have time to take time off.”

During his first seven months in office, Trump has taken seven trips to his resort in Mar-a-Lago, Florida; five to his golf club in Bedminister, New Jersey; and one to Trump Tower in Manhattan.

Each of those Florida trips is estimated to have cost more than $3 million. The president’s near-weekly retreats to the Sunshine State last winter put him on pace to spend more on travel in his first year than Barack Obama had spent during two full terms.

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#1503986 --- 08/23/17 10:20 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Time will tell! I seem to remember Obama going to Hawaii every year for a week!

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#1503996 --- 08/24/17 04:09 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Time will tell! I seem to remember Obama going to Hawaii every year for a week!
Time will tell what? Obama went once a year to the place where he was born. Trumps weekly trips have already cost more than that. Did you not understand the above post?

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Each of those Florida trips is estimated to have cost more than $3 million. The president’s near-weekly retreats to the Sunshine State last winter put him on pace to spend more on travel in his first year than Barack Obama had spent during two full terms.

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#1504087 --- 08/25/17 11:46 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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I heard former Senator Danforth on TV this morning.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...tory/600288001/

Former Missouri GOP senator John Danforth called President Trump "the most divisive president in our history" and warned Republicans not to let him tarnish the GOP's image.

"Trump is always eager to tell people that they don’t belong here, whether it’s Mexicans, Muslims, transgender people or another group. His message is, “You are not one of us',” Danforth wrote in a Washington Post op-ed posted online Thursday evening. "And when he has the opportunity to unite Americans, to inspire us, to call out the most hateful among us, the KKK and the neo-Nazis, he refuses."

Danforth's op-ed is a harshly worded rebuke from a GOP elder statesman, coming at a time when Trump is already under fire for his response to the racially charged violence in Charlottesville, where white supremacists rallied earlier this month.

Danforth, an ordained Episcopal priest and three-term senator, called on Republicans to "disassociate ourselves from Trump" and tell voters that "he does not represent what it means to be a Republican." He suggested Republicans were at risk of losing their historical connection to Abraham Lincoln and the crusade to end slavery during the Civil War.

"We are the party of the Union, and (Trump) is the most divisive president in our history," Danforth wrote. "There hasn’t been a more divisive person in national politics since George Wallace."

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#1504165 --- 08/27/17 09:32 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Trump tells it like it is and people can't handle it! Everything has to be sugar coated for this generation!

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#1504252 --- 08/29/17 09:28 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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During the presidential campaign, Donald Trump promised to protect lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer individuals. But with his directive Friday banning transgender people from serving openly in the military, the president rolled back progress that was already underway during President Barack Obama’s administration. A group of civil rights organizations announced Monday that it was suing Trump’s administration over the new policy.

Eric Fanning served as Army secretary at the end of Obama’s term, and was part of the effort to transition the military to full equality for transgender individuals. Fanning was also the first openly gay person to serve in the position. He is now on the board at the Center for a New American Security.

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#1504253 --- 08/29/17 09:30 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Trump tells it like it is and people can't handle it! Everything has to be sugar coated for this generation!
There is a big difference between being sugar coated and being vulgar and obscene.

Trump Was Recorded in 2005 Bragging About Grabbing Women “by the P*ssy”

By Ben Mathis-Lilley

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#1504257 --- 08/29/17 12:12 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Well Kyle you seem to be using sources that you have highly criticized in the past. But now that these left-wing biased sources fit your purpose they are OK. Gotta love it.


Originally Posted By: kyle585
He needs to check with our very own Gassy!

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#1504258 --- 08/29/17 12:22 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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#1504260 --- 08/29/17 02:23 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Well Kyle you seem to be using sources that you have highly criticized in the past. But now that these left-wing biased sources fit your purpose they are OK. Gotta love it.

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Gassy refuses to say where he gets his info. I suspect Fox News is one source. I am trying to point out to him that even Fox News isn't supporting Trump as solidly as they used to.

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Originally Posted By: kyle585
He needs to check with our very own Gassy!

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Fox's Shep Smith can't find a Republican willing to defend Trump http://huffp.st/OZS3W1z

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#1504271 --- 08/29/17 04:49 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Kyle if you get away from the Democratically controlled media you would notice the tide is turning in Trump's favor. Take your blinders off.
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#1504277 --- 08/29/17 06:38 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Kyle if you get away from the Democratically controlled media you would notice the tide is turning in Trump's favor. Take your blinders off.
LOL. Give me an example of a media that thinks he is doing well. Or any group for that matter.

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#1504278 --- 08/29/17 06:43 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Kyle if you get away from the Democratically controlled media you would notice the tide is turning in Trump's favor. Take your blinders off.
Is Newsweek Democratically controlled media? How about Quinnipiac University?

http://www.newsweek.com/trumps-support-among-white-voters-plummeted-approval-rating-sunk-646668

8/5/17

The voters who launched President Donald Trump into the White House appear to be growing tired with his administration just six months through his tenure.

A new poll this week from Quinnipiac University found that not only had Trump's approval rating sunk to a new low, but support among key demographics Trump won during the 2016 election—most notably white voters without a college degree—had also dropped off.

Just 33 percent of voters approved of Trump's job performance overall, a sharp decline from 40 percent approval in the Quinnipiac poll at the end of June. Sixty-one percent of voters disapproved of Trump in the latest survey.

Nearly every survey this week was not kind to Trump. For instance, Rasmussen Reports—a firm that has been criticized as right-leaning and has long found better results for the former reality TV star compared to other pollsters found the president's approval rating at one point dipped to an all-time low of just 38 percent. By the end of the week, the weighted average from data-focused website FiveThirtyEight had Trump's approval rating at just 37 percent, an all-time low.

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#1504286 --- 08/29/17 10:00 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Kyle if you get away from the Democratically controlled media you would notice the tide is turning in Trump's favor. Take your blinders off.
Is Newsweek Democratically controlled media? How about Quinnipiac University?

http://www.newsweek.com/trumps-support-among-white-voters-plummeted-approval-rating-sunk-646668

8/5/17

The voters who launched President Donald Trump into the White House appear to be growing tired with his administration just six months through his tenure.

A new poll this week from Quinnipiac University found that not only had Trump's approval rating sunk to a new low, but support among key demographics Trump won during the 2016 election—most notably white voters without a college degree—had also dropped off.

Just 33 percent of voters approved of Trump's job performance overall, a sharp decline from 40 percent approval in the Quinnipiac poll at the end of June. Sixty-one percent of voters disapproved of Trump in the latest survey.

Nearly every survey this week was not kind to Trump. For instance, Rasmussen Reports—a firm that has been criticized as right-leaning and has long found better results for the former reality TV star compared to other pollsters found the president's approval rating at one point dipped to an all-time low of just 38 percent. By the end of the week, the weighted average from data-focused website FiveThirtyEight had Trump's approval rating at just 37 percent, an all-time low.
Hilary was supposed to win in a landslide too! LOL!

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#1504323 --- 08/31/17 02:07 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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https://thinkprogress.org/trump-just-got...n-b5d798ca9e09/

Trump just got terrible news about the Mueller team’s investigation

The pardon power may not be able to save him now.

Special counsel Robert Mueller, Politico’s Josh Dawsey reports, “is working with New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman on its investigation into [former Trump campaign chairman] Paul Manafort and his financial transactions, according to several people familiar with the matter.”

The partnership between Mueller and Schneiderman potentially shifts the balance of power between the president and investigators, who are charged with probing the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia, for three reasons.

First, as Dawsey notes, Trump does not have the power to pardon state crimes. That means that Schneiderman could bring charges against Trump associates — or maybe even Trump himself — without the president being able to use his powers to nip such a prosecution in the bud. It also means that Trump would have less ability to use the promise of a pardon to encourage his associates not to cooperate with the investigation, since such a pardon would not protect them from state charges.

Second, although federal regulations could potentially make it more difficult for Trump to fire Mueller, it is likely that Trump could ensure the special counsel’s removal if he was determined to do so. Trump, however, has no authority over Schneiderman.

Finally, Mueller’s partnership with Schneiderman suggests that the two men are sharing at least some of the evidence, testimony, and other records that Mueller has collected during his investigation. If Mueller is removed, the Justice Department could potentially claim ownership over any official records in Mueller’s possession. But they most likely could not claim any records held by Schneiderman.

So, if Mueller is fired, Schneiderman could potentially pick up at least part of the investigation where Mueller left off.

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#1504369 --- 09/02/17 07:40 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/hurric...itution-n798321


Harvey Threatens to Tip Houston’s Working Poor Into Destitution

by Dartunorro Clark

HOUSTON — Rene Farrell is running low on gas, money and faith.

For the past week, she's tapped into her $1,700-a-month paycheck to buy clothes, diapers, food and fuel, among other essentials, to help her daughter and her two grandchildren after Hurricane Harvey wreaked havoc across the Houston region — leaving tens of thousands of homes damaged, and residents homeless and in a frustrating dash for aid.

Farrell's now down to a few hundred dollars, praying some kind of assistance is on the way.

"When the money runs out, it runs out," the 50-year-old said Friday.

This is a palpable feeling for many of Harvey’s victims — particularly the working poor living paycheck to paycheck with little-to-no financial cushion. Some here now see a very fine line between destitution and bouncing back on their feet.

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#1504374 --- 09/03/17 07:15 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Replying to @moira

For the first time ever, the head of NASA will have zero scientific qualifications.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/02/science/jim-bridenstine-nasa-trump.html

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#1504375 --- 09/03/17 07:18 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Sen. John McCain: President Trump "is often poorly informed and can be impulsive in his speech and conduct" http://cnn.it/2wtJtMf

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#1504376 --- 09/03/17 07:19 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Talia Lavin‏Verified account @chick_in_kiev 9h9 hours ago

I've been subscribed to EPA news alerts for over a year now. Since the election, the shift is absolutely nuts. 1/

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#1504377 --- 09/03/17 07:20 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Chris Hayes Retweeted
Evan Smith‏Verified account @evanasmith 14h14 hours ago

Evan Smith Retweeted Mark Berman

This is crap. Media has been in harm’s way all week. Proud of @neenareports @KiahCollier @brandonformby and countless others #txlege

Trump visits w/Harvey survivors, throws in dig at the media (media's been there for days, not parachuting in today)

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#1504395 --- 09/04/17 08:12 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/09/04/jeh-johnson-donald-trump-215574

Jeh Johnson, Cautious Lawyer, Speaks Out About Trump

The former DHS secretary has seen enough from this president: He’s worried, and he won’t remain silent.

By SUSAN B. GLASSER

September 04, 2017

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#1504401 --- 09/04/17 03:25 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Trump is disgusting beyond words.

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Alonso Guillen came to the U.S. from Mexico as a child. He died here, too: On Wednesday, he disappeared when his boat capsized while he was rescuing survivors of the flooding caused by Hurricane Harvey in the Houston area.

Family members recovered his body on Sunday from a creek in Spring, Texas, according to The Houston Chronicle ― just hours before reports emerged that President Donald Trump will end the program that shielded Guillen and others like him ― so-called Dreamers ― from deportation.

Guillen, a 31-year-old disc jockey who came to Texas from Mexico as a teenager, never became a U.S. citizen. But he had a work permit and protection from immediate deportation as part of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program ― DACA ― that then-President Barack Obama established in 2012.

Last week, he headed south from his home in Lufkin, Texas, with a borrowed boat, insisting he wanted to help rescue flood survivors. His father, a legal permanent resident, wept on the sandy banks of Cypress Creek on Sunday as his son’s body was pulled from the water, the Chronicle reported. Jesus Guillen recounted to the paper how he asked his son not to go on the rescue mission with two friends, and that he thanked God for the time he had with his son.

His mother, Rita Ruiz de Guillen, was contacted by Chronicle at her home in Piedras Negras, Mexico. “I’m asking God to give me strength,” she said.

She also told the paper that U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials denied her entry at the border, despite her pleas for a temporary visa to come to Texas for her son’s burial.

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#1504451 --- 09/05/17 09:41 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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The law is the law Kyle!

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#1504464 --- 09/06/17 02:13 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
The law is the law Kyle!
Yes it is. That is why you are so wrong when you keep saying "they got nothing" about Trumps illegal deals with Russia. There is getting to be a mountain of evidence now.

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#1504478 --- 09/06/17 07:41 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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I love it!

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/06/senate-charlottesville-trump-hate-groups-242361?lo=ap_c1

The Senate is preparing to force President Donald Trump to go on record to officially condemn the deadly white supremacist rallies in Charlottesville last month.

Virginia Sens. Mark Warner and Tim Kaine, both Democrats, along with Republican Sens. Cory Gardner of Colorado and Johnny Isakson of Georgia, plan to formally roll out a Senate resolution later Wednesday that forcefully condemns the violence in Charlottesville while “rejecting white nationalists, white supremacists, the Ku Klux Klan, neo-Nazis and other hate groups.”

The Senate routinely takes up nonbinding measures commemorating people and institutions in the form of concurrent resolutions and simple resolutions – which are both purely symbolic and not submitted to the White House for the president’s signature.

But backers of the Charlottesville resolution have strategically chosen to introduce their measure as a joint resolution, which means it will be sent to Trump to sign into law.

“Let there be no mistake: what happened in Charlottesville was an act of domestic terrorism perpetrated by a white supremacist, one that tragically cut short the life of a young woman, Heather Heyer, who was speaking out against hatred and bigotry,” Warner said in a statement introducing the measure. “We will be pressing our colleagues to swiftly and unanimously approve this resolution in order to send a strong message that the United States Congress unconditionally condemns racist speech and violence.”

Kaine added: “During the violent white supremacist demonstrations in Charlottesville last month, our country lost three brave Virginians in Heather Heyer and Virginia State Police officers, Lieutenant Jay Cullen and Trooper Pilot Berke Bates. This resolution honors their lives while supporting the Charlottesville community as it heals and rightfully calls on us all, including President Trump, to do better as we combat acts of hate.”

The five-page resolution not only honors the victims of the deadly clashes and condemns the hate groups, but also urges the Trump administration to “use all available resources to address the threats posed by those groups.” The measure calls white supremacy and neo-Nazism “hateful expressions of intolerance that are contradictory to the values that define the people of the United States.”

Trump fueled an uproar and widespread condemnation from both political parties last month for his response to the deadly white nationalist protests in Charlottesville by blaming the “hatred, bigotry and violence — on many sides” and arguing that there were “very fine people” on both sides of the Aug. 12 clash in the Virginia city. The protests killed Heyer, 32, in addition to Cullen and Bates, who had been responding to the scene.

Gardner, who also serves as chairman of the National Senatorial Campaign Committee, is a notable GOP sponsor. The Colorado senator was the first Senate Republican to urge Trump directly to condemn the acts of white supremacy, saying “we must call evil by its name” and calling the violence in Charlottesville an act of “domestic terrorism.”

The resolution is backed by the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights and the Anti-Defamation League.

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#1504482 --- 09/06/17 08:02 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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"Trump fueled an uproar..." and lit the match of his own demise.
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#1504485 --- 09/06/17 09:37 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Teonan]
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Originally Posted By: Teonan

"Trump fueled an uproar..." and lit the match of his own demise.
His whole presidency has to come crashing down someday, doesn't it? This can't go on for four years, can it? Tell me it can't. That would destroy America.

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#1504489 --- 09/06/17 10:06 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Teonan

"Trump fueled an uproar..." and lit the match of his own demise.
His whole presidency has to come crashing down someday, doesn't it? This can't go on for four years, can it? Tell me it can't. That would destroy America.

Trumps p-residency will be destroyed by the weight of overwhelming evidence before America falls. Concerns being The Manchild's determination to drag her down before he taps out.
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#1504491 --- 09/06/17 11:21 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Teonan]
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Originally Posted By: Teonan
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Teonan

"Trump fueled an uproar..." and lit the match of his own demise.
His whole presidency has to come crashing down someday, doesn't it? This can't go on for four years, can it? Tell me it can't. That would destroy America.

Trumps p-residency will be destroyed by the weight of overwhelming evidence before America falls. Concerns being The Manchild's determination to drag her down before he taps out.
Yes That is my concern.

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#1504494 --- 09/06/17 02:09 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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ROFLAMO

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/06/politics/trump-deal-democrats-republicans/index.html

President Donald Trump bucked his own party Wednesday and sided with Democrats to support a deal that would ensure passage of disaster relief funding as well as raising the debt ceiling and continuing to fund the government into December.

In a rebuke to Republican leaders, Trump backed Democrats' plan to support a deal that would fund Hurricane Harvey aid but only raise the debt ceiling for three months. Those two items would also be tied to a measure to keep the government open through the end of December, setting up a hugely complicated year end crush of must-pass items.

Ignoring the advice of Republican congressional leadership and that of his own treasury secretary, Trump said he wanted a solution and supported the Democratic plan, according to a source briefed on a meeting that Trump held with congressional leaders Wednesday.


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#1504620 --- 09/10/17 08:24 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Teonan
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Teonan

"Trump fueled an uproar..." and lit the match of his own demise.
His whole presidency has to come crashing down someday, doesn't it? This can't go on for four years, can it? Tell me it can't. That would destroy America.

Trumps p-residency will be destroyed by the weight of overwhelming evidence before America falls. Concerns being The Manchild's determination to drag her down before he taps out.
Yes That is my concern.
Oh Boy! The two twin knuckleheads together!

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#1504621 --- 09/10/17 08:25 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
ROFLAMO

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/06/politics/trump-deal-democrats-republicans/index.html

President Donald Trump bucked his own party Wednesday and sided with Democrats to support a deal that would ensure passage of disaster relief funding as well as raising the debt ceiling and continuing to fund the government into December.

In a rebuke to Republican leaders, Trump backed Democrats' plan to support a deal that would fund Hurricane Harvey aid but only raise the debt ceiling for three months. Those two items would also be tied to a measure to keep the government open through the end of December, setting up a hugely complicated year end crush of must-pass items.

Ignoring the advice of Republican congressional leadership and that of his own treasury secretary, Trump said he wanted a solution and supported the Democratic plan, according to a source briefed on a meeting that Trump held with congressional leaders Wednesday.

Trump is not saddled to anyone like idiot Obama!

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#1504631 --- 09/11/17 02:07 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/all-time-best-president-united-states-rankings-235149

Historians have ranked Barack Obama the 12th best president of all time, the highest rated since President Ronald Reagan, in a new C-SPAN survey released Friday.

Less than a month after exiting the White House, Obama received high marks from presidential historians for his pursuit of "equal justice for all" and for his commanding "moral authority," ranking third and seventh among all former presidents in each respective category. The 44th president also cracked a top 10 ranking for his "economic management" and public persuasion.

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#1504645 --- 09/11/17 12:35 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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You did notice who the story is from? LOL!

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#1504653 --- 09/11/17 01:49 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
You did notice who the story is from? LOL!
Yes. What is your point?

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#1504658 --- 09/11/17 01:53 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
You did notice who the story is from? LOL!
Yes. What is your point?
You should be able to figure that out! MAYBE!

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#1504661 --- 09/11/17 01:55 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
You did notice who the story is from? LOL!
Yes. What is your point?
You should be able to figure that out! MAYBE!
I am not going to chase my tail for you that is for sure.

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#1504664 --- 09/11/17 01:58 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
You did notice who the story is from? LOL!
Yes. What is your point?
You should be able to figure that out! MAYBE!
I am not going to chase my tail for you that is for sure.
That's all you ever do! You have no clue only what cut & pastes tell you especially leftie ones!

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#1504689 --- 09/11/17 03:08 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/bannon-interview-wake-call-gop-160950523.html

It's been more than 10 months since the presidential election, but the true losers in that contest still don't seem to know they lost. And the winners are still fumbling with the reins of power.

That's the impression that comes out clearly from former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon's interview that aired on "60 Minutes" Sunday night. Bannon not only revealed comments made by Republican congressional leaders that prove they're still clueless about their lost power and status, but he insisted there are still members of President Donald Trump's own White House team that aren't properly on board.

And love or hate Bannon, his description of the state of things just after the election and in the months that followed sure seems to explain a lot. First off, Bannon lowered the boom by telling us that the GOP congressional leadership started its relationship with the Trump team in a state divorced from reality: They thought they had won the election. In meetings with then President-elect Trump, Bannon said House Speaker Paul Ryan explained that he and other congressional Republicans were the experts on repealing and replacing Obamacare and were more than poised to get it done. Here's how Bannon summarized the promises Ryan made last year: "We've done this for seven years. We've voted on this 50 times. We understand this issue better than anybody. We know how to repeal and we know how to replace, and this is ours. That's what we're gonna start with Day One, and we will have something on your desk by Easter. By the Easter break, we'll do repeal and replace." Of course we all know that didn't happen. Bannon chalks up that failure to Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell not realizing the deep divisions they were and still are facing within the Republican Party. That makes sense: Congressional leaders historically don't put bills up for a vote if they aren't fairly sure they will pass.

And McConnell wasn't spared a second brutal blow. Bannon told interviewer Charlie Rose that at the end of the Kentucky Senator's initial meeting with the Trump transition team, McConnell insisted the president stop attacking the D.C. establishment: "Oh, Mitch McConnell when we first met him, I mean, he was-- he was-- he-- he said, I think in one of the first meetings-- in Trump Tower with the president-- as we're wrapping up, he basically says, "I don't wanna hear any more of this 'Drain the swamp talk.' He says, "I can't-- I can't hire any smart people," because everybody's all over him for reporting requirements and-- and the pay, et cetera, and the scrutiny. You know, 'You gotta back off that." That depiction of McConnell as being primarily protective of the status quo and his own power jives perfectly with long-held conservative complaints about his priorities and effectiveness as a Republican standard bearer on Capitol Hill. And it also fits perfectly with the reports that McConnell worked more closely with insurance company lobbyists than his fellow Republicans on the Obamacare-replacement bill. This isn't just about being power hungry or greedy for lobbyist dollars. It's a sign of a kind of ignorance that politicians cannot afford to have... if they want to stay politicians that is. The hatred for the Washington power establishment is what propelled President Trump to victory, and that's evident in polls that show McConnell shouldering a brutal 18 percent approval rating even in his own home state. But Bannon did not stop there.

He also went after establishment Republican types who were — and still are — in the Trump administration who he says are still not loyal enough to the president. He singled out chief economic adviser Gary Cohn, who Bannon says should not have criticized President Trump so publicly following the white supremacist march and chaos in Charlottesville last month: "You can tell him, 'Hey, maybe you can do it a better way.' But if you're gonna break, then resign. If you're going to break with him, resign. The stuff that was leaked out that week by certain members of the White House I thought was unacceptable. If you find it unacceptable, you should resign." But perhaps the most damning indictment of the cluelessness of the Republican establishment representatives on the Trump team came from Bannon's depiction of how certain senior members of the campaign team responded to the October 2016 release of the "Access Hollywood" tapes of Donald Trump speaking crudely about women in 2005. Bannon says that then-Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus was ready to throw in the towel: "Trump went around the room and asked people the percentages he thought of still winning and what the recommendation. And Reince started off and Reince said, 'You have-- you have two choices. You either drop out right now, or you lose by the biggest landslide in American political history.'" Bannon says that he responded by telling Trump he was still 100 percent sure Trump would win the election. And it's not so much that Bannon was right that stands out, but that Priebus was so sure it was all over. It was yet another suspicion confirmed by Bannon that the GOP leadership just isn't strongly enough behind President Trump because they still don't understand how strongly so many of their own Republican voters intend to stick by him even in the worst of times. The fact that Priebus was still given the job of White House chief of staff despite all that is a good example of how disjointed this administration was in the beginning.

Bannon describes an administration often at war with itself, with some staffers who want to keep President Trump's coalition together and others who want to, "reach out to Democrats, and let's try to work on things that we can do together." During much of the 1980s and 90s, political pundits often wondered whether voters one day would look at the Democratic and Republican Party leadership and eventually say, "a plague on both your houses!" (To quote Mercutio in Shakespeare's "Romeo and Juliet.") That moment finally came in 2016, when a critical mass of voters sent Donald Trump to Washington not just to represent them but to punish the power structure in Washington. Because President Trump still has the capital "R" after his name, too many Republican establishment types seem to have plodded through the last 10 months under the delusion that the American people didn't reject them every bit as much as Hillary Clinton and the Democrats. Whether they still held this delusion even after the Obamacare repeal and replacement debacle and a slew of other failures is debatable. But the Bannon interview is just the latest wake-up call to a Republican Party that should have seen the writing on the wall during President Trump's historic march through the GOP primaries. Bannon is obviously no longer in the White House. But you don't need to be an administration insider to know that an establishment-friendly Trump agenda has no voter mandate and is probably not workable anyway. In that sense, this interview serves not only as a slap in the face to people like Speaker Ryan and Senator McConnell, but it's also a warning to those on the Trump team who think they can still go about Washington business as usual. Commentary by Jake Novak, CNBC.com senior columnist. Follow him on Twitter @jakejakeny. For more insight from CNBC contributors, follow @CNBCopinion on Twitter.

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#1504706 --- 09/11/17 11:08 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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BLAH BLAH BLAH!!

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#1504727 --- 09/13/17 08:46 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
BLAH BLAH BLAH!!
That is all you can say when you have no good reply to the facts that I present.

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#1504834 --- 09/17/17 02:20 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/pro-trump-rally-sought-bring-190500017.html

While Donald Trump jetted away from Washington DC for a weekend retreat in New Jersey, hundreds of his supporters descended on the city to demand protection for "traditional American culture”.

Protesters came from around the country for the so-called "Mother of All Rallies" (MOAR) – a pro-Trump, right-wing protest that organisers billed as the “Woodstock of American Rallies”.

“MOAR will send a message to the world that the voices of mainstream Americans must be heard,” organisers wrote on the MOAR website. “We are coming together to send a direct message to Congress, the media and the world that we stand united not divided to protect and preserve American Culture.”

On Facebook, organisers said they hoped to rally one million people to DC in support of their cause. Washington Metropolitan police said they expected 1,800 people. Journalists on the ground estimated the crowd size at 1,000.

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#1504924 --- 09/20/17 06:17 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/bill-maher-asks-donald-trump-110805685.html

Bill Maher Asks Donald Trump's Supporters: 'You Know You’re Being Conned, Right?'

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#1504936 --- 09/21/17 07:25 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
https://www.yahoo.com/news/bill-maher-asks-donald-trump-110805685.html

Bill Maher Asks Donald Trump's Supporters: 'You Know You’re Being Conned, Right?'


Does it really matter what a Television Clown said, Kyle.
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#1504939 --- 09/21/17 07:30 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: kyle585
https://www.yahoo.com/news/bill-maher-asks-donald-trump-110805685.html

Bill Maher Asks Donald Trump's Supporters: 'You Know You’re Being Conned, Right?'


Does it really matter what a Television Clown said, Kyle.
It does when he tells the truth and knows more than our current president. How sad is that?

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#1504945 --- 09/21/17 09:03 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: kyle585
https://www.yahoo.com/news/bill-maher-asks-donald-trump-110805685.html

Bill Maher Asks Donald Trump's Supporters: 'You Know You’re Being Conned, Right?'


Does it really matter what a Television Clown said, Kyle.
It does when he tells the truth and knows more than our current president. How sad is that?


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"tells the truth"


Right!
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#1504957 --- 09/21/17 10:32 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Two months after he exited the Trump White House, former press secretary Sean Spicer is still struggling to land a steady TV gig, a lucrative book deal, Hollywood jobs, or even a reality-TV show, sources with knowledge of the process tell The Daily Beast.

“No one wants to play with Sean,” one network insider bluntly noted.

On Tuesday, NBC News reported that the big TV news networks, including CNN, Fox News, CBS News, ABC News, and NBC, have given a hard pass on offering Spicer a job as an exclusive on-air paid contributor. Executives have cited his “credibility” issues stemming from his bold mangling of the truth in service of President Donald Trump, which Spicer has himself expressed some belated regret over.

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#1504963 --- 09/21/17 01:54 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Two months after he exited the Trump White House, former press secretary Sean Spicer is still struggling to land a steady TV gig, a lucrative book deal, Hollywood jobs, or even a reality-TV show, sources with knowledge of the process tell The Daily Beast.

“No one wants to play with Sean,” one network insider bluntly noted.

On Tuesday, NBC News reported that the big TV news networks, including CNN, Fox News, CBS News, ABC News, and NBC, have given a hard pass on offering Spicer a job as an exclusive on-air paid contributor. Executives have cited his “credibility” issues stemming from his bold mangling of the truth in service of President Donald Trump, which Spicer has himself expressed some belated regret over.



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Sean Spicer is still struggling to land a steady TV gig


Are you trying to tell me, President Trump, forced Mr. Spicer to take a job at the White House?
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#1504968 --- 09/21/17 06:15 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Are you trying to tell me, President Trump, forced Mr. Spicer to take a job at the White House?
No of course not. Being the presidents press secretary has always been considered a very prestigious job until Trump came along. Now you have to justify Trumps lies every day. And who else would want to hire someone who has stoped that low on a daily basis?

Did you not understand this?
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Executives have cited his “credibility” issues stemming from his bold mangling of the truth in service of President Donald Trump, which Spicer has himself expressed some belated regret over.

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#1504977 --- 09/21/17 07:26 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: kyle585
https://www.yahoo.com/news/bill-maher-asks-donald-trump-110805685.html

Bill Maher Asks Donald Trump's Supporters: 'You Know You’re Being Conned, Right?'


Does it really matter what a Television Clown said, Kyle.
It does when he tells the truth and knows more than our current president. How sad is that?
He doesn't know crap Kyle!

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#1505027 --- 09/22/17 11:09 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Are you trying to tell me, President Trump, forced Mr. Spicer to take a job at the White House?
No of course not. Being the presidents press secretary has always been considered a very prestigious job until Trump came along. Now you have to justify Trumps lies every day. And who else would want to hire someone who has stoped that low on a daily basis?

Did you not understand this?
Quote:
Executives have cited his “credibility” issues stemming from his bold mangling of the truth in service of President Donald Trump, which Spicer has himself expressed some belated regret over.


I never read it Kyle. I can only stand to read about a tenth of the garbage you post, and that's pushing it.
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#1505029 --- 09/22/17 11:40 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Two months after he exited the Trump White House, former press secretary Sean Spicer is still struggling to land a steady TV gig, a lucrative book deal, Hollywood jobs, or even a reality-TV show, sources with knowledge of the process tell The Daily Beast.

“No one wants to play with Sean,” one network insider bluntly noted.

On Tuesday, NBC News reported that the big TV news networks, including CNN, Fox News, CBS News, ABC News, and NBC, have given a hard pass on offering Spicer a job as an exclusive on-air paid contributor. Executives have cited his “credibility” issues stemming from his bold mangling of the truth in service of President Donald Trump, which Spicer has himself expressed some belated regret over.
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Sean Spicer is still struggling to land a steady TV gig

Are you trying to tell me, President Trump, forced Mr. Spicer to take a job at the White House?
I should of known. It is obvious that you don't read what I post when you make idiotic statements like this.

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#1505263 --- 09/25/17 01:12 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/201...does/699429001/

The pace of U.S. economic growth will stay stuck in the low 2% range in 2017 and 2018, far slower than the 3% pace President Trump has been targeting, according to the latest survey of nearly four dozen economists by the National Association for Business Economics.

The economy's estimated trajectory was unchanged from NABE's last survey in June, with economists still expecting the economy to grow 2.2% in 2017 and 2.4% next year. Although the economy has been picked up steam in recent quarters, "the weak start to the year is expected to hold the average annual GDP growth rate in 2017 to 2.2%," said NABE vice president-elect Kevin Swift, who is chief economist and managing director for the American Chemistry Council.

If the projections of the 47 economists are on target, it would be a negative for Trump, who has been banking on faster growth to help generate more revenue for the nation and help pay for his proposed tax cuts.

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#1505265 --- 09/25/17 01:24 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Projections are like polls! WORTHLESS!

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#1505317 --- 09/26/17 02:34 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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I have never so much vicious infighting within a political party. But we have never the likes of Trump before and we better hope we never seen another like him if we are going to save this nation which used to be the greatest nation on eart.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/25/alabama-senate-bannon-strange-moore-243131

They think you're a pack of morons'

Steve Bannon declared war on the GOP establishment at a raucous rally in Alabama ahead of Tuesday's special Senate election.

By ALEX ISENSTADT

09/25/2017 11:16 PM EDT

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#1505326 --- 09/26/17 07:17 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Still the greatest! If you don't like it move to N Korea!

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#1505330 --- 09/26/17 07:52 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/nation...-446790833.html

Deportation rates of undocumented immigrants have ticked up in the federal Immigration Court for the first time in eight years as President Donald Trump starts to make good on his promise to expel millions of people. But even as the Trump administration expands its dragnet, the court is so backlogged that some hearings are being scheduled as far in the future as July 2022.

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#1505339 --- 09/26/17 08:09 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Everybody doesn't get a hearing!

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#1505343 --- 09/26/17 09:56 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/nation...-446790833.html

Deportation rates of undocumented immigrants have ticked up in the federal Immigration Court for the first time in eight years as President Donald Trump starts to make good on his promise to expel millions of people. But even as the Trump administration expands its dragnet, the court is so backlogged that some hearings are being scheduled as far in the future as July 2022.



Funny considering Obama claimed that deportation was up under his administration.
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#1505346 --- 09/26/17 10:15 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: cwjga]
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/26/politics/trump-nfl-tweets/index.html

Trump's NFL and Puerto Rico tweets prove his goal is to divide, not unite the country

Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large

Casting people who disagree with you as "other" -- and ensuring "other" = bad -- made for a winning political strategy for Trump. But, winning isn't an end in and of itself. Or any sort of legacy.

The key -- for Trump and for any other winners out there -- is what you do once you grab the brass ring. Past presidents understood that the campaign was one thing and governing was another. That being president bestowed on you the responsibility of always trying to take the high road, always doing the right thing for the country rather than the best thing for your party or yourself.

Trump has flipped that approach on its head. He does what's good for him first, then what he believes to be good for the GOP and, finally, what's good for the country. That's what "modern day presidential" means to Trump. And it's what is driving divisions in this country to dangerous levels.

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#1505353 --- 09/26/17 10:34 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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OH BOY! LOL! CNN! WHAT A JOKE!

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#1505355 --- 09/26/17 12:10 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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OH BOY! LOL! CNN! WHAT A JOKE!
You don't believe Trump wants to divide the country? WOW

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#1505386 --- 09/26/17 04:50 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Not at all! Just trying to get the country back from a bunch of flowers under Obama!

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#1505396 --- 09/26/17 06:12 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Not at all! Just trying to get the country back from a bunch of flowers under Obama!
Obama's approval level was much higher than Trump's. Trump is going down and out. Count on it.

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#1505408 --- 09/26/17 08:19 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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I think I've heard this before! Also Hilary is going to win in a landslide! LOL!

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#1505417 --- 09/27/17 02:53 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/dems-win-special-election-in-most-florida-race-ever

Dems Win Special Election In Most Florida Race Ever
Annette Taddeo flipped a state senate seat against a Republican who was literally on “The Apprentice.”


While the win itself was not overwhelming in its margin, and the district went 58-40 for Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential election, it’s the seventh seat that Democrats have flipped nationally this year—compared to zero for Republicans.

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#1505430 --- 09/27/17 07:22 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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NOTHING KYLE NOTHING!

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#1505435 --- 09/27/17 09:46 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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NOTHING KYLE NOTHING!
At this point, nothing is what you go to have between the ears to believe they got nothing.

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#1505475 --- 09/27/17 08:38 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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nothing kyle nothing!

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#1505565 --- 09/28/17 05:00 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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On the news tonight they mentioned some NFL player who is giving his whole first weeks paycheck to hurricane relief. That reminded me that this cheap SOB was supposed to donate a million dollars to hurricane relief. I bet he didn't do it. It will not be the first time the cheap SOB didn't donate money he said he would. I assume it is OK to call him a SOB since he does it to other Americans.

https://thinkprogress.org/white-house-wa...s-4691cf5e6dd6/

On Thursday, White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told reporters that President Trump would donate $1 million of his “personal money” to Hurricane Harvey victims. But on Friday, she wasn’t so sure.

Asked by a reporter if she knew whether Trump’s donation would be “coming from his own money or from the Trump Foundation,” Sanders dodged.

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#1505567 --- 09/28/17 06:03 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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A black man showing up the president. I love it

http://www.businessinsider.com/deshaun-watson-donates-hurricane-harvey-2017-9

NFL athletes have been busy with much more than football to start the 2017 season.

Not only has the NFL been filled with visible displays of solidarity protesting systemic racism and police violence, but they've also donated their time, money, and social media reach to help bring aid to those affected by the slew of hurricanes that devastated Texas, Florida, and much of the Caribbean Islands.

Notably, J.J. Watt helped raise over $30 million for relief efforts for the Houston area in the wake of Hurricane Harvey. Now, one of Watt's teammates has stepped up to help out a few people close to the Texans organization.

Rookie quarterback Deshaun Watson donated his first game check to three cafeteria workers who were affected by Hurricane Harvey. In a video posted to Twitter by the Houston Texans, Watson can be seen expressing his appreciation for the workers, and gifting them envelopes.

"For what you all do for us every day and never complain, I really appreciate you all, so I wanted to give my first game check to y'all to help y'all out in some type of way," Watson said. "Hopefully, that's good and that can get you back on your feet. And anything else y'all need, I'm always here to help."

Watson is making $465,000 in base salary on his rookie deal, making his game check $27,353.

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#1505593 --- 09/28/17 08:26 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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How do you know what Trump has donated?

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#1505598 --- 09/29/17 03:41 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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How do you know what Trump has donated?
Because if he really did donate he would be bragging about it on twitter every day.

https://thinkprogress.org/white-house-wa...s-4691cf5e6dd6/

On Thursday, White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told reporters that President Trump would donate $1 million of his “personal money” to Hurricane Harvey victims. But on Friday, she wasn’t so sure.

Asked by a reporter if she knew whether Trump’s donation would be “coming from his own money or from the Trump Foundation,” Sanders dodged.

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#1505618 --- 09/29/17 07:52 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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What difference does it make as long as it helps people in need! Everything doesn't need political spin!

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#1505648 --- 09/29/17 06:12 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
What difference does it make as long as it helps people in need! Everything doesn't need political spin!

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/29/gop-tax-plan-wealthy-middle-class-pay-more-243310

Wealthy, not middle class, would be big winners in GOP tax plan, study says

About 30 percent of those earning between $50,000 and $150,000 would pay more under the Republican plan, according to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center.

By BRIAN FALER 09/29/2017 03:16 PM EDT Updated 09/29/2017 05:37 PM EDT

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#1505649 --- 09/29/17 06:14 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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What difference does it make as long as it helps people in need! Everything doesn't need political spin!
What? OMG. Are you kidding?

https://thinkprogress.org/white-house-wa...s-4691cf5e6dd6/

On Thursday, White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told reporters that President Trump would donate $1 million of his “personal money” to Hurricane Harvey victims. But on Friday, she wasn’t so sure.

Asked by a reporter if she knew whether Trump’s donation would be “coming from his own money or from the Trump Foundation,” Sanders dodged.

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#1505667 --- 09/29/17 09:26 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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It makes no difference! Your buddy Andy is going to waste more NYS money sending our national Guard there!

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#1505774 --- 10/01/17 02:47 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2...lumn/710242001/

He dodged the draft, insulted the Gold Star parents of an American solider and mocked P.O.W. John McCain. And he has the gall to tell NFL players to stand for the anthem? Give me a break.

"There are a lot of killers, we've got a lot of killers. What, you think (America) is so innocent?"

These words were not spoken by a Russian agent trying to tar America's standing in the world. They weren't uttered by a recent Antifa recruit on campus in Berkeley. They were famously said by the president of the United States during a February interview with Fox News' Bill O'Reilly that aired — as if the gods of irony needed a hearty chuckle — during the 2017 Super Bowl.

Americans clearly back Trump in his belief that players should stand during the National Anthem. But it is also evident that Trump has hardly spent any time reflecting over what patriotism means. Given his tireless work to lower America's moral standing around the world, perhaps it should be Trump that kneels in front of the flag — in order to ask its forgiveness.

Christian Schneider is a member of USA TODAY's Board of Contributors. Follow him on Twitter: @Schneider_CM


Edited by kyle585 (10/01/17 02:48 AM)

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#1505777 --- 10/01/17 03:20 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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It makes no difference! Your buddy Andy is going to waste more NYS money sending our national Guard there!

Yeah, helping hurricane victims is always a waste of money, but giving ginormous tax breaks to millionaires and billionaires ISN'T. crazy
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#1505799 --- 10/01/17 08:18 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Timbo]
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NY has no business in Puerto Rico! Your buddy Andy is just trying to score political points! He should be trying to cut taxes instead of giving taxpayer money away to collect brownie points!

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#1505812 --- 10/02/17 01:03 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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NY has no business in Puerto Rico! Your buddy Andy is just trying to score political points! He should be trying to cut taxes instead of giving taxpayer money away to collect brownie points!
Somebody has to help out these people on the verge of dying while Trump is tweeting from his super expensive golf course. And it is easy to score political points against a president so out of touch with the real world.

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#1505813 --- 10/02/17 01:05 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/01/politics/john-kasich-republican-party-cnntv/index.html

Ohio Republican Gov. John Kasich said on CNN's "State of the Union" Sunday that a time could come when he no longer supports the Republican Party.

"If the party can't be fixed, Jake, then I'm not going to be able to support the party. Period. That's the end of it." Kasich said in an interview with anchor Jake Tapper.

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#1505845 --- 10/02/17 03:19 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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NY has no business in Puerto Rico! Your buddy Andy is just trying to score political points! He should be trying to cut taxes instead of giving taxpayer money away to collect brownie points!

They have EVERY business to help gravely suffering US citizens anywhere they may be.

Have you NO conscience?
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#1505862 --- 10/02/17 08:14 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Timbo]
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That's the Feds job not Andy's! He is just wasting taxpayer money for political gain!

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#1505887 --- 10/03/17 07:32 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/puerto...g-visit-n807021

Puerto Ricans Hope President Trump Gets an Eyeful of Devastation During Visit

by Daniella Silva and Suzanne Gamboa

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico — Puerto Ricans remained in survival mode on the eve of President Donald Trump's visit — and many residents were downright exasperated.

"He's pretty late," Bethsaida Colón said Monday as she waited in a wheelchair in line at the airport, bound for New York. "His general came here eight days late."

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#1505890 --- 10/03/17 07:39 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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The best thing that could happen to that country is bulldoze the whole thing and start over again!

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#1505923 --- 10/03/17 04:11 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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The best thing that could happen to that country is bulldoze the whole thing and start over again!
ummmmm. First of all that "country" is part of the country you live in. Second there is nothing left to bulldoze. The two hurricanes destroyed almost everything.

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#1505924 --- 10/03/17 04:12 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Ha. Ha Trump

https://www.thedailybeast.com/sec-mattis-breaks-with-trump-we-must-stay-in-iran-deal

Secretary of Defense James Mattis on Tuesday broke with his boss, President Trump, to tell the Senate Armed Services Committee that he believes the U.S. should remain in the Iran deal.

“Do you believe it is in our national security interest [to remain in the deal]?” Sen. Angus King (I-ME) asked the secretary, who then replied: “Yes, senator, I do.”

Trump has repeatedly railed against the Obama-negotiated deal, calling it a “bad deal” and claiming it is not in the United States’ national-security interests. Under current law, the White House must certify to Congress every 90 days that Iran is complying with the deal. The next certification date is October 15.

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#1505931 --- 10/03/17 07:19 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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That's the Feds job not Andy's!

State's Rights, Pal. Or are you some kinda BIG Government lover? smirk
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#1505949 --- 10/03/17 09:23 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
That's the Feds job not Andy's!

State's Rights, Pal. Or are you some kinda BIG Government lover? smirk
That would be you lefties! I don't think my state tax money should be going to help Andy's political future! Especially after the screwin he's gave upstate NY!

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#1505972 --- 10/04/17 07:38 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/03/politics/doj-old-anti-nepotism-olc-memos/index.html

DOJ releases slew of memos lobbying against presidential appointments for family

By Laura Jarrett and David Shortell, CNN

The Justice Department has released a trove of decades-old internal legal memos concluding the President should be legally barred from appointing a relative to a position in the White House, shedding new light on just how sharp a departure the department's more recent interpretation of federal law under the Trump administration compares to past practice.

When the Justice Department concluded on Inauguration Day 2017 Jared Kushner could serve in his father-in-law's administration without violating anti-nepotism laws, legal experts scratched their heads at the ruling.

Monday's newly released memos -- first reported by Politico, which filed a Freedom of Information Act request -- illustrate why the reversal was so stark.

Dating back to the Nixon administration, the Justice Department provided an unbroken chain of advice: federal law forbids the President from appointing a relative "to a civilian position in the agency ... over which (the official) exercises jurisdiction or control," including a temporary or permanent appointment to the White House staff.

"You have asked for our opinion on the question whether the President could appoint Mrs. (Rosalynn) Carter to be Chairman of a Commission on Mental Health proposed to be established in a forthcoming Executive Order," wrote acting Assistant Attorney General John Harmon in a February 1977 memo to a lawyer in the Carter administration. "It is our opinion that he may not."

Harmon added that the statutory prohibition should apply "whether or not the appointee will receive compensation."
A similar finding came from Edwin Kneedler in 1977, who concluded that President Jimmy Carter could not appoint his son to an unpaid position on the White House staff.
"As pointed out in our memorandum . . . regarding Mrs. Carter," Kneedler explained, "it makes no difference that he would serve without compensation."

Yet deputy assistant attorney general Daniel Koffsky, a longtime career attorney at the Office of Legal Counsel at the Justice Department, reversed course in January, finding the anti-nepotism law covers only appointments in an "executive" agency and that the White House Office is not such an agency under the law.

"In choosing his personal staff, the President enjoys an unusual degree of freedom, which Congress found suitable to the demands of his office," wrote Koffsky, relying on a separate law giving the President broad authority to hire his staff.
Despite the criticism levied by ethics experts, Kushner's lawyer said back in January that the new opinion was justified.
"We believed that we had the better argument on this,"

Kushner's lawyer Jamie Gorelick said in a statement at the time. "The Office of Legal Counsel of the Justice Department -- in an opinion by a highly regarded career Deputy Assistant Attorney General -- adopted a position consistent with our own."

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#1505979 --- 10/04/17 12:03 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: gassy one
That's the Feds job not Andy's!

State's Rights, Pal. Or are you some kinda BIG Government lover? smirk
That would be you lefties! I don't think my state tax money should be going to help Andy's political future! Especially after the screwin he's gave upstate NY!

Non sequitur! And it's not up to YOU. Puerto Rico pays their taxes, and as such, are legally entitled to precisely the same help as say, Texas, Louisiana or ANY other 'state' impacted by hurricane, flood, tsunami, nuclear meltdown, apocolyptic fire & brimstone or other disaster. Take your pick.
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#1505992 --- 10/04/17 08:00 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Timbo]
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What planet are you on? Puerto Rico pays no federal tax! It's a one way street petunia! Their way!

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#1506001 --- 10/04/17 09:58 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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What planet are you on? Puerto Rico pays no federal tax! It's a one way street petunia! Their way!

Puerto Rico funds the US government. Puerto Ricans who live on the island aren’t just American citizens, they’re American taxpayers. They pay payroll taxes, business taxes, and estate taxes. They helped pay for disaster relief in Texas after Hurricane Harvey and in Florida after Hurricane Irma.

Now, do you think you can process that little fact?
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#1506015 --- 10/05/17 05:39 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Timbo]
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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sam...kushpmg00000067

The American government’s slow response to the humanitarian crisis in Puerto Rico following Hurricane Maria is actually nothing new.

On Wednesday’s “Full Frontal,” Samantha Bee explained that the way President Donald Trump “helped” storm-ravaged Puerto Ricans followed a 100-year-old pattern.

“If you’re shocked by this, then you are not Puerto Rican,” said Bee. “Truth is, we’ve been treating them like the unwelcome nephew under America’s stairs for more than a century.”

Aided by “Hamilton” star Javier Muñoz, who has family on the island, Bee then dissected its history of “getting screwed with their pantalones on by the United States.”

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#1506017 --- 10/05/17 07:36 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
What planet are you on? Puerto Rico pays no federal tax! It's a one way street petunia! Their way!

Puerto Rico funds the US government. Puerto Ricans who live on the island aren’t just American citizens, they’re American taxpayers. They pay payroll taxes, business taxes, and estate taxes. They helped pay for disaster relief in Texas after Hurricane Harvey and in Florida after Hurricane Irma.

Now, do you think you can process that little fact?
They pay crap! Half of them don't work! They pay no federal tax so we aren't getting much tax from them petunia! It's mostly them sucking money from us! Can you process that flower petal?

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#1506033 --- 10/05/17 11:26 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/puerto-rico-jeb-bush-slams-064342201.html

Former Florida Governor Jeb Bush said Puerto Ricans deserve “consistency and compassion” from the Trump administration, after the president said loss of life on the storm-devastated island did not compare to a “real tragedy” like Hurricane Katrina.

On his visit to Puerto Rico Tuesday, Trump addressed government officials, and compared the loss of life from Hurricane Maria to that from Hurricane Katrina, which struck Louisiana in 2005.

"Every death is a horror, but if you look at a real catastrophe like Katrina, and you look at the tremendous—hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people that died, and you look at what happened here, with really a storm that was just totally overpowering, nobody's ever seen anything like this,” said Trump.

Since Trump left the Caribbean U.S. territory, the death toll has risen to 34, and thousands remain without power.

The mayor of San Juan Carmen, Yulin Cruz, criticized the administration for not providing the same assistance to Puerto Rico as it did to Texas and Florida after recent devastating hurricanes, and described scenes in which Trump tossed paper towels to hurricane survivors after his statement to officials Tuesday as "terrible and abominable."

Jeb Bush, a rival to Trump for the 2015 GOP presidential nomination, became the first senior Republican to break ranks and criticize the administration’s response Wednesday.

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#1506037 --- 10/05/17 01:00 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: gassy one
What planet are you on? Puerto Rico pays no federal tax! It's a one way street petunia! Their way!

Puerto Rico funds the US government. Puerto Ricans who live on the island aren’t just American citizens, they’re American taxpayers. They pay payroll taxes, business taxes, and estate taxes. They helped pay for disaster relief in Texas after Hurricane Harvey and in Florida after Hurricane Irma.

Now, do you think you can process that little fact?
They pay crap! Half of them don't work! They pay no federal tax so we aren't getting much tax from them petunia! It's mostly them sucking money from us! Can you process that flower petal?

Read and Learn, O Misinformed One:

Puerto Rico is supporting the US…not the other way around:
https://waragainstallpuertoricans.com/20...r-way-around-2/
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#1506041 --- 10/05/17 01:32 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Puerto Rico is supporting the US…not the other way around:
https://waragainstallpuertoricans.com/20...r-way-around-2/
Excellent link Timbo.

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#1506053 --- 10/05/17 08:35 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: gassy one
What planet are you on? Puerto Rico pays no federal tax! It's a one way street petunia! Their way!

Puerto Rico funds the US government. Puerto Ricans who live on the island aren’t just American citizens, they’re American taxpayers. They pay payroll taxes, business taxes, and estate taxes. They helped pay for disaster relief in Texas after Hurricane Harvey and in Florida after Hurricane Irma.

Now, do you think you can process that little fact?
They pay crap! Half of them don't work! They pay no federal tax so we aren't getting much tax from them petunia! It's mostly them sucking money from us! Can you process that flower petal?

Read and Learn, O Misinformed One:

Puerto Rico is supporting the US…not the other way around:
https://waragainstallpuertoricans.com/20...r-way-around-2/
Excess profits to corporations don't equate to paying taxpayers back for what we send over there DUMBO!

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#1506054 --- 10/05/17 08:39 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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#1506059 --- 10/05/17 08:50 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Excess profits to corporations don't equate to paying taxpayers back for what we send over there DUMBO!

And yet, each and every policy that you typically cling-to does precisely the same thing. You're a hypocrite.

"the island received a total of $4.6 billion in federal dollars, while contributing $71.6 billion dollars back to the US economy."

To suggest that these figures DON'T confirm that PR contributes FAR more than they take in is utterly incorrect and derisible. Besides, government decides where tax money is spent. Not you. So, move the goalpost all you wan't, Your argument is false any way you stack your BS.
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#1506062 --- 10/05/17 08:56 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Timbo]
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I don't cling to anything flower petal! I'm sure you take more handouts than I ever would! You're a lefty petunia who likes handouts!

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#1506065 --- 10/05/17 09:15 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Puerto Rico is supporting the US…not the other way around:
https://waragainstallpuertoricans.com/20...r-way-around-2/
Excellent link Timbo.

Thx, my work here is done. grin
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#1506066 --- 10/05/17 09:16 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Timbo]
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But first, A Reminder...

Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Excess profits to corporations don't equate to paying taxpayers back for what we send over there DUMBO!

And yet, each and every policy that you typically cling-to does precisely the same thing. You're a hypocrite.

"the island received a total of $4.6 billion in federal dollars, while contributing $71.6 billion dollars back to the US economy."

To suggest that these figures DON'T confirm that PR contributes FAR more than they take in is utterly incorrect and derisible. Besides, government decides where tax money is spent... NOT you. So, move the goalpost all you wan't, Your argument is false any way you stack your BS.
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#1506067 --- 10/05/17 09:21 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
I don't cling to anything flower petal! I'm sure you take more handouts than I ever would! You're a lefty petunia who likes handouts!

I might agree with with you, but then I'd also be wrong and then we'd BOTH look like total idiots. grin
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#1506106 --- 10/06/17 11:15 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: gassy one
I don't cling to anything flower petal! I'm sure you take more handouts than I ever would! You're a lefty petunia who likes handouts!

I might agree with with you, but then I'd also be wrong and then we'd BOTH look like total idiots. grin
You make yourself look like a total idiot everyday! What's the difference?

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#1506107 --- 10/06/17 11:17 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Puerto Rico is supporting the US…not the other way around:
https://waragainstallpuertoricans.com/20...r-way-around-2/
Excellent link Timbo.
Butt kisser!

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#1506109 --- 10/06/17 11:49 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Puerto Rico is supporting the US…not the other way around:
https://waragainstallpuertoricans.com/20...r-way-around-2/
Excellent link Timbo.
Butt kisser!
If you ever post anything I agree with I will complement you also.

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#1506154 --- 10/06/17 07:09 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Won't happen! You are way out there off the charts!

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#1506170 --- 10/07/17 02:47 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Won't happen! You are way out there off the charts!
I support every law-abiding citizen having the right to own guns. Since I support it can I assume you don't support it?

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#1506184 --- 10/07/17 12:51 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Throw them a roll of paper towels Trump and I am sure they will be just fine.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl...aria/736372001/

GUAYANILLA, Puerto Rico — José Roig, 56, tried to stay positive as he surveyed his 150-acre coffee plantation clinging to the steep, storm-scoured hillsides near Puerto Rico’s southern coast.

Hurricane Maria’s winds of more than 150 mph ripped away nearly all the leaves on the once-lush tropical landscape, twisted tree trunks and exposed Roig’s shade-loving coffee plants to the sun.

“What took 35 years to build was lost in 10 hours,” Roig said, looking at a valley of destruction that spread beyond the mountain peaks in the distance and across the entire island.

Roig, who is proudly self-reliant, said his harvest was insured and vowed to recover.

But Puerto Rico’s agricultural sector was decimated by the storm, and he and government officials agreed that a full recovery from Maria’s blow will require federal assistance.

Carlos Flores Ortega, Puerto Rico’s secretary of agriculture, said the area around Roig’s farm, near the southern port city of Ponce, is known for plantains, bananas, papayas, coffee and citrus crops.

“All of that has been wiped out,” Flores Ortega said. “Farmers are used to loss, rain, heavy rains and flooding. But in this occasion, we had the worst natural disaster in 100 years on the island.”

Flores Ortega estimated the island lost 80% of its crops. The poultry sector lost 90% of its production and more than 2 million of its 2.6 million birds, along with numerous chicken coops and processing equipment.

All the plantations have been destroyed. Flooding covered 51,000 acres of coastal area. Cows and other livestock floated away in the swollen rivers. Irrigation systems were lost, and ornamental and hydroponic facilities were damaged.

“There’s no plant that can survive 150-mph winds,” Flores Ortega said.

Federal agencies and the island’s Department of Agriculture are looking for ways to restore Puerto Rico’s $1 billion agricultural sector, with grants and loans to help bury animals and to rebuild facilities and roads so farmers can go back to planting and production.

Jobs and income produced by food processors add another $3.5 billion to the island’s economy, Flores Ortega said.

Luz Quiñones, 39, who owns La Cosecha Mia (My Harvest) produce market in Old San Juan, said Puerto Rico’s farm industry was undergoing a renaissance before the hurricane, with young people getting into the game to feed a demand for organic and local produce.

That sector has grown to the point it started to export produce, Quiñones said.

“If the government doesn’t help rebuild, I don’t know if we’re going to survive,” she said.

In Yabucoa, a region on the southeastern corner of the island that produces plantains, farmer Aurelio Beltran drove through acres of downed plantain trees.

Angel Morales, president of the Yabucoa farming cooperative, said most of the valley's 3,000 to 4,000 acres of plantains were destroyed. Although farmers carry insurance, they'll still lose money because trees cost $6 to $7 to plant, and insurance only pays $3.25 a tree, Morales said.

Roig, whose forefathers established his farm in 1876 as Spanish immigrants from Catalonia, rode across his land in a rusty Jeep Renegade with his son, Jesús, 31, at the wheel.

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#1506199 --- 10/07/17 09:27 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Nothing worth saving in that rat whole! Bulldoze the whole island and start over! Get some people who want to work instead of collecting benefits and start over!

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#1506207 --- 10/08/17 01:51 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Throw them a roll of paper towels Trump and I am sure they will be just fine.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl...aria/736372001/

GUAYANILLA, Puerto Rico — José Roig, 56, tried to stay positive as he surveyed his 150-acre coffee plantation clinging to the steep, storm-scoured hillsides near Puerto Rico’s southern coast.

Hurricane Maria’s winds of more than 150 mph ripped away nearly all the leaves on the once-lush tropical landscape, twisted tree trunks and exposed Roig’s shade-loving coffee plants to the sun.

“What took 35 years to build was lost in 10 hours,” Roig said, looking at a valley of destruction that spread beyond the mountain peaks in the distance and across the entire island.

Roig, who is proudly self-reliant, said his harvest was insured and vowed to recover.

But Puerto Rico’s agricultural sector was decimated by the storm, and he and government officials agreed that a full recovery from Maria’s blow will require federal assistance.

Carlos Flores Ortega, Puerto Rico’s secretary of agriculture, said the area around Roig’s farm, near the southern port city of Ponce, is known for plantains, bananas, papayas, coffee and citrus crops.

“All of that has been wiped out,” Flores Ortega said. “Farmers are used to loss, rain, heavy rains and flooding. But in this occasion, we had the worst natural disaster in 100 years on the island.”

Flores Ortega estimated the island lost 80% of its crops. The poultry sector lost 90% of its production and more than 2 million of its 2.6 million birds, along with numerous chicken coops and processing equipment.

All the plantations have been destroyed. Flooding covered 51,000 acres of coastal area. Cows and other livestock floated away in the swollen rivers. Irrigation systems were lost, and ornamental and hydroponic facilities were damaged.

“There’s no plant that can survive 150-mph winds,” Flores Ortega said.

Federal agencies and the island’s Department of Agriculture are looking for ways to restore Puerto Rico’s $1 billion agricultural sector, with grants and loans to help bury animals and to rebuild facilities and roads so farmers can go back to planting and production.

Jobs and income produced by food processors add another $3.5 billion to the island’s economy, Flores Ortega said.

Luz Quiñones, 39, who owns La Cosecha Mia (My Harvest) produce market in Old San Juan, said Puerto Rico’s farm industry was undergoing a renaissance before the hurricane, with young people getting into the game to feed a demand for organic and local produce.

That sector has grown to the point it started to export produce, Quiñones said.

“If the government doesn’t help rebuild, I don’t know if we’re going to survive,” she said.

In Yabucoa, a region on the southeastern corner of the island that produces plantains, farmer Aurelio Beltran drove through acres of downed plantain trees.

Angel Morales, president of the Yabucoa farming cooperative, said most of the valley's 3,000 to 4,000 acres of plantains were destroyed. Although farmers carry insurance, they'll still lose money because trees cost $6 to $7 to plant, and insurance only pays $3.25 a tree, Morales said.

Roig, whose forefathers established his farm in 1876 as Spanish immigrants from Catalonia, rode across his land in a rusty Jeep Renegade with his son, Jesús, 31, at the wheel.
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#1506228 --- 10/08/17 12:50 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/10/08/donald-trump-government-215691?lo=ap_c1

Shortly after the White House released the outlines of its tax proposal, President Donald Trump railed on Twitter against Democrats who opposed it, noting that his “Tax Cut and Reform Bill” was winning “great reviews.” Except that there wasn’t an actual tax cut and reform bill pending in Congress yet for Democrats to support or oppose. The legislation hadn’t been introduced. What the White House put forward was just a framework to be filled in during the normal bargaining process on Capitol Hill.

That was after the president tweeted that the “approval process” for his tax reform package would soon begin, which, again, is not how Congress works. The House of Representatives will introduce its own bill, incorporating some of the president’s priorities to be sure, but there will be no formal process of approval for what he’s proposed. Some of his preferred policies might not make it into the final bill at all.

It’s possible the president knew all this, that his tweets were merely inelegant phrasing, and in any event we all can get the gist of what he meant. Then again, it’s also possible, and indeed there is ample evidence, that the president of the United States really doesn’t understand the constitutional process, or even American history, much at all. This is a man, after all, who at the age of 70 seemed surprised to learn that Abraham Lincoln was a Republican.

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#1506256 --- 10/08/17 09:05 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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BLAH BLAH BLAH! LOL!

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#1506265 --- 10/09/17 02:57 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
BLAH BLAH BLAH! LOL!
You are running out of rebuttals. Do you have any idea how silly your immature taunts make you sound?

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#1506312 --- 10/09/17 08:34 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
BLAH BLAH BLAH! LOL!
You are running out of rebuttals. Do you have any idea how silly your immature taunts make you sound?
Not nearly as bad as you look posting the garbage you post day after day!

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#1506318 --- 10/10/17 01:17 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
BLAH BLAH BLAH! LOL!
You are running out of rebuttals. Do you have any idea how silly your immature taunts make you sound?
Not nearly as bad as you look posting the garbage you post day after day!
Tell me why you think this is garbage.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/09/trump-aides-guard-rails-243608

White House aides lean on delays and distraction to manage Trump

In interviews, senior staff and others close to the president have described a series of guardrails they use to push the president away from rash decisions.

By JOSH DAWSEY

10/09/2017 05:19 PM EDT

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#1506332 --- 10/10/17 08:25 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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It's garbage because the source is politico!

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#1506334 --- 10/10/17 09:00 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
It's garbage because the source is politico!
Yet you refuse to tell any site that is not political. That is sad.

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#1506345 --- 10/10/17 11:38 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
It's garbage because the source is politico!
Yet you refuse to tell any site that is not political. That is sad.
It's sad that you are so brainwashed by the lefties!

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#1506357 --- 10/10/17 12:42 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
It's garbage because the source is politico!
Yet you refuse to tell any site that is not political. That is sad.
It's sad that you are so brainwashed by the lefties!
I shake my head in amazement at your inability to answer simple questions or make reasonable comments.

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#1506377 --- 10/10/17 07:53 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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That's reasonable that your brainwashed!

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#1506408 --- 10/11/17 07:23 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
That's reasonable that your brainwashed!
ummm. This reply isn't even a sentence that makes sense.

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#1506422 --- 10/11/17 07:58 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Obviously not to you!

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#1506647 --- 10/17/17 05:59 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
It's garbage because the source is politico!
Yet you refuse to tell any site that is not political. That is sad.
It's sad that you are so brainwashed by the lefties!



Explain "Lefties" adverse to lies,name calling, pettiness and adolescent mentality? Maybe "me" think that being left is a redeeming attribute. Explain brainwash when you call facts fake news such Russian collusion, no words or action when 4 American soldiers die, lied that Obama did not call families of US casualty.......denying fact is called what in your vocabulary? grin


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/16/us/politics/trump-obama-killed-soldiers.html

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#1506654 --- 10/17/17 09:30 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Formermac]
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The problem is you lefties don't know facts from BS!

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#1506657 --- 10/17/17 10:06 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
The problem is you lefties don't know facts from BS!
We certainly know a liar when we hear one!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-branded-fat-fing-liar-sister-us-soldier-killed-iraq-080127138.html

Donald Trump has been widely criticised after falsely claiming that Barack Obama and other former presidents didn’t call the families of fallen soldiers.

The businessman-turned-politician was branded a ‘fat, f***ing liar’ by the sister of a U.S. soldier killed in Iraq after he made the comments when asked about four US soldiers who died in Niger last week.

“The toughest calls I have to make are the calls where this happens — soldiers are killed,” Trump told reporters.

“It’s a very difficult thing. Now it gets to a point where you make four or five of them in one day, it’s a very, very tough day. For me that’s by far the toughest.”
More on Donald Trump from Yahoo:

“President Obama and other presidents, most of them didn’t make calls, a lot of them didn’t make calls. I like to call when it’s appropriate, when I think I’m able to do it.”

The lie immediately provoked outrage online.

Delilia O’Malley tweeted to Trump: “‘When my brother was killed, Pres Bush listened while I screamed at him & then held me as I sobbed, you fat f***ing liar.”

Alyssa Mastromonaco, a former aide to Obama, said: “That’s a f***ing lie. To say President Obama (or past presidents) didn’t call the family members of soldiers KIA – he’s a deranged animal.”

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#1506658 --- 10/17/17 10:23 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
The problem is you lefties don't know facts from BS!


You trump supporters married the town "whore" back in November, here it is almost a year later and you're still attempting to convince us that she's (Trump)a fine women. Nice try. Due to the fact that smart voters know the distinction between a fine house wife and the women from the house of ill repute, it's only an effort in futility to say otherwise but you know that anyway don't you? Thus your problem......smart people can not unlearn morality, logic, decent upbringing, good value and last but not least, honesty. Explain why your fine "Wife" is always lying to you while possessing the inability to stay faithful?........we Liberals answer questions, not ask only.

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#1506661 --- 10/17/17 10:31 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Formermac]
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You liberals are a bunch of sore losers who can't get over the fact that CROOKED HILARY lost the election!

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#1506663 --- 10/17/17 11:32 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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See what I mean by very limited vocabulary? Liberals, Liberals........ Now explain this one, why is the independent investigation subpoenaing all of Trump's associates including Russia? A big conspiracy???????....I say not due the fact that the Trump team knows that their days are numbered. BTW never in my life have we witness a "winning candidate crying about his triumph 10 month later...why if his base can reelect him? answer, more than likely he has done undermining things to get to where he's at, simply put, a winner knows in mind that he/she won by unethical means. For your sore loser repetition.........I voted for Bernie Sander due to the fact that I didn't trust Hillary, So much for another one of your off basis conspiracy. Finally, what will you say when Russia decides to help the next presidential candidate who happens to be Liberal or Independent? Answer: cry the blues about the collusion because your nominee wasn't elected. SEE smart voters can be open minded and flexible adverse to one sentence responses and narrowed minded thinking.

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#1506665 --- 10/17/17 11:48 AM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Formermac]
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Last I knew Bernie lost too! I would never put in the classification as smart! LOL! As far as the investigation that is just a big taxpayer funded partisan waste of money that will prove nothing!

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#1506666 --- 10/17/17 12:05 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Last I knew Bernie lost too! I would never put in the classification as smart! LOL! As far as the investigation that is just a big taxpayer funded partisan waste of money that will prove nothing!


You mean by the millions spent to repeal and replace the ACA, the ongoing investigation on benghazi, the list goes on but not forgetting all this went on for 8 years coming from the Republicans. Now the cry babies wants all this to go away in regard to a half baked President being investigated for collusion, sexual harassment, not showing his taxes, racism etc. Hey it appears that not only are some Republicans hypocrite but forgetful as well. whistle

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#1506667 --- 10/17/17 12:27 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Formermac]
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You know when you've hit rock bottom when in one vein you denigrate the NFL players for disrespecting American soldiers by not kneeling for the flag but never anticipating a journalistic misstep of calling the previous President a liar and getting caught in your own web of lies....I almost spit by pepsi out when I watched that comedic quote take place......"WELL, I was told by some generals" who in turn said "NO" we will not cover you on that lie, that one's on you along"

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#1506670 --- 10/17/17 12:33 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
You know when you've hit rock bottom when in one vein you denigrate the NFL players for disrespecting American soldiers by not kneeling for the flag but never anticipating a journalistic misstep of calling the previous President a liar and getting caught in your own web of lies....I almost spit by pepsi out when I watched that comedic quote take place......"WELL, I was told by some generals" who in turn said "NO" we will not cover you on that lie, that one's on you along"
In another post in Headline news gassy responded to this. He said "BLAH BLAH BLAH". How sick is that?

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#1506689 --- 10/17/17 03:23 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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NFL players should be called out for disrespecting the flag! Now the NFL owners are worried about the ratings slide because Americans are tuning the NfL out!

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#1506700 --- 10/17/17 04:40 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: gassy one]
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ACLU Retweeted
John Leguizamo‏Verified account @JohnLeguizamo 55m55 minutes ago

Yay!! Freedom of worship wins again!

John Leguizamo added,
ACLUVerified account @ACLU

The Muslim Ban has been blocked. Again. #NoMuslimBanEver https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nat...m=.f90527c5e912

15 replies 148 retweets 858 likes

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#1506701 --- 10/17/17 04:41 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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The Latest on President Donald Trump's suggestion that his predecessors fell short in honoring the nation's fallen (all times local):

1:15 p.m.

White House visitor records from former President Barack Obama's term show that he hosted current White House chief of staff John Kelly at a breakfast for Gold Star families after his son died in Afghanistan.

In a Fox News Radio interview, President Donald Trump defended his claim that his predecessors fell short in honoring those killed in action by saying: "You could ask Gen. Kelly, did he get a call from Obama?"

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#1506702 --- 10/17/17 04:42 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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HuffPost‏Verified account @HuffPost 57m57 minutes ago

Senators reach deal on Obamacare payments as Trump declares law dead http://huffp.st/guUbFeQ

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#1506703 --- 10/17/17 04:44 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Chris Hayes Retweeted
Matt Fuller‏Verified account @MEPFuller 1h1 hour ago

One minute: Trump is saying Obamacare is "virtually dead" and complaining about insurance companies lining their pockets.

Few minutes later: Trump is saying we have to help insurers and touting a deal strengthening Obamacare.

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#1506716 --- 10/17/17 08:42 PM Re: Trump "Fritzing Out" [Re: kyle585]
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Only for two years!

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