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#1501908 --- 07/19/17 06:31 PM So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly?
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Hmmm. Interesting.

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#1501909 --- 07/19/17 06:56 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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It's friendly but it isn't real. Know what I mean?

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#1501910 --- 07/19/17 08:32 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: antnee]
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...nality-map.html

HOME»NEWS»WORLD NEWS»NORTH AMERICA»USA
New Yorkers are neurotic and unfriendly, says Cambridge University 'personality map'
New York is home to the most neurotic and unfriendly people in America


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#1501911 --- 07/19/17 08:55 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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#1501949 --- 07/20/17 08:23 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
New York is home to the most neurotic and unfriendly people in America
It is hard to be otherwise when you have to smell what we have to smell many days. And remember Trump is from New York too.

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#1501955 --- 07/20/17 11:12 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: kyle585]
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SURE, blame it on the landfill,that way you can avoid addressing the real problem.
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#1501956 --- 07/20/17 11:20 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
SURE, blame it on the landfill,that way you can avoid addressing the real problem.
So tell me what is the real problem as you see it?

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#1501962 --- 07/20/17 11:46 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: kyle585]
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people like you who think they are something they are NOT.
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#1501963 --- 07/20/17 01:01 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Is this how you address the "real" problem, by replying to a sincere request for alternative ideas with personal insults?

When lacking a solid argument, simply make an ad hominem attack, right?

All hat and no cattle, Chester.
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#1501964 --- 07/20/17 01:05 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck

New York is home to the most neurotic and unfriendly people in America

Apparently you've never been to New Jersey. grin

http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2016/08/18/most-unfriendly-cities-in-us.html
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#1501971 --- 07/20/17 01:55 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo

Is this how you address the "real" problem, by replying to a sincere request for alternative ideas with personal insults?

He sure is something. He can't answer a honest and simple request for info.

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#1501986 --- 07/20/17 04:26 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: kyle585]
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Timbo glad you're joining the discussion because this would also pertain to you grin
http://www.yourdictionary.com/superiority-complex
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#1501988 --- 07/20/17 04:28 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
SURE, blame it on the landfill,that way you can avoid addressing the real problem.
What discussion? I still have no idea what the real problem is that you refer to.

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#1501990 --- 07/20/17 04:38 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: kyle585]
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#1501992 --- 07/20/17 04:39 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
This is a worthless silly game you are playing now. But on other hand maybe you are proving the point on why Seneca Fall is unfriendly. mmmmm

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#1501993 --- 07/20/17 04:48 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: kyle585]
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That is after all what this thread is about. Until you tried to make another landfill thread.

Keep in mind where this came from
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Is the Seneca Falls community unfriendly to tourists? Ami Ghazala, superintendent of the Women’s Rights National Historic Park, says it’s an unfortunate truth.

Ghazala spoke to the town board hoping to find a way the town and park could work together to resolve the problem in such a way to benefit both the town and park.

The Women’s Rights National Historic Park is a federal agency legislated in 1980. The park brings some 55,000 visitors, national and international, on average to Seneca Falls each year and this year is shaping up to surpass that number. Unfortunately, Ghazala says many of those visitors tell park employees that local residents demonstrate a high level of intolerance for those who come from a different culture, who dress differently or even speak a different language.


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#1501994 --- 07/20/17 04:50 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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I dont know if I would say Seneca Falls is unfriendly, but I will say when I lived there for 6 years in the 80's some people were rude, but you find that anywhere. When we lived on Walnut St, we met several of the neighbors and they were very nice. I would also say that some people go out of their way looking to be offended.

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#1501995 --- 07/20/17 04:50 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Timbo glad you're joining the discussion because this would also pertain to you grin
http://www.yourdictionary.com/superiority-complex

Not superior to everyone, just some people. But thanks for drawing attention to the fact. smirk

Now then, where were we?
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#1502004 --- 07/20/17 07:37 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Timbo]
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"WE " were right here, where are you ?
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#1502005 --- 07/20/17 07:52 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: scwoodchuck]
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It's my opinion that the superintendent of the park is handling the situation wrong. To expect the town board to do something about it is totally unreasonable. Park employees should just smile and say "I'm sorry you had an unpleasant experience". Some people are career victims and it would be my guess that the superintendent is one of them.
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#1502062 --- 07/21/17 07:20 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Hello_Governer]
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Originally Posted By: Hello_Governer
It's my opinion that the superintendent of the park is handling the situation wrong. To expect the town board to do something about it is totally unreasonable. Park employees should just smile and say "I'm sorry you had an unpleasant experience". Some people are career victims and it would be my guess that the superintendent is one of them.


Agreed. There is something unsettling about an agent of the federal government more or less directing a municipal government on how it thinks local citizens should feel.

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#1502064 --- 07/21/17 07:50 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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Unfortunately there is an element that is quick to find offense. In SF you are either in or out, that's it.

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#1502096 --- 07/21/17 07:00 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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All I know is Seneca Falls stinks to high heaven. Some friends had a boat trip planned and were to stay at the free canal docks there - a beautiful facility - but kept going to Seneca Lake after they caught a whiff on a particular odorous evening. Such a pity.

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#1502101 --- 07/21/17 07:56 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Kells]
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All I know is Seneca Falls stinks to high heaven. Some friends had a boat trip planned and were to stay at the free canal docks there - a beautiful facility - but kept going to Seneca Lake after they caught a whiff on a particular odorous evening. Such a pity.
Really? OMG. What could of caused that?

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#1502103 --- 07/21/17 08:11 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: kyle585]
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Dead fish.
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#1502104 --- 07/21/17 08:13 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Kells]
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Originally Posted By: Kells
All I know is Seneca Falls stinks to high heaven. Some friends had a boat trip planned and were to stay at the free canal docks there - a beautiful facility - but kept going to Seneca Lake after they caught a whiff on a particular odorous evening. Such a pity.
ya mean they passed on all the FREE STUFF ? AAWWWWWWW
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#1502125 --- 07/22/17 07:14 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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Better get used to it kids. Cash, cash, and cash are king.

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#1502173 --- 07/23/17 07:27 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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Better get used to it kids. Cash, cash, and cash are king.

Is there a better way ?
Doesn't somebody have to pay for all that free stuff the liberals want ? Besides isn't the main problem with Seneca Falls the fact that people with a bigger house and a better car and a government job think they're better than everyone else ?
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#1502180 --- 07/23/17 12:16 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Originally Posted By: Here's Johnny
Better get used to it kids. Cash, cash, and cash are king.

Is there a better way ?
Doesn't somebody have to pay for all that free stuff the liberals want ?
Trump refuses to show us his tax returns and show us that a billionaire pays no income tax.

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#1502185 --- 07/23/17 12:37 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Originally Posted By: Here's Johnny
Better get used to it kids. Cash, cash, and cash are king.

Is there a better way ?
Doesn't somebody have to pay for all that free stuff the liberals want ?
Trump refuses to show us his tax returns and show us that a billionaire pays no income tax.
He is no different than most corporations that pay no tax!

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#1502210 --- 07/23/17 02:32 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Originally Posted By: Here's Johnny
Better get used to it kids. Cash, cash, and cash are king.

Is there a better way ?
Doesn't somebody have to pay for all that free stuff the liberals want ?
Trump refuses to show us his tax returns and show us that a billionaire pays no income tax.
He is no different than most corporations that pay no tax!
Really? And Trump wants to cut corporate taxes more!

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#1502211 --- 07/23/17 02:34 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Originally Posted By: Here's Johnny
Better get used to it kids. Cash, cash, and cash are king.

Is there a better way ?
Doesn't somebody have to pay for all that free stuff the liberals want ?
Trump refuses to show us his tax returns and show us that a billionaire pays no income tax.
He is no different than most corporations that pay no tax!
That had nothing to do with the fact that he won't show us his tax returns. Every candidate for president has but him for 50 years. I think his tax returns will show more Russian connections.

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#1502216 --- 07/23/17 03:30 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: kyle585]
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Corporations don't pay taxes they just pass it on to the consumer with higher prices. When did it become illegal to do business with Russia ?
Kyle just hijacked another thread grin


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#1502218 --- 07/23/17 04:37 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Corporations don't pay taxes

http://smallbusiness.chron.com/corporations-pay-state-federal-taxes-59838.html

Just like people, corporations have to pay taxes. For any incorporated business, the IRS sets rules for deductible expenses, exempt income and tax credits, and levies a progressive tax rate that varies depending on the corporation's net taxable income.

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#1502219 --- 07/23/17 04:40 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Corporations don't pay taxes
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/how-corporations-are-taxed-30157.html

A corporation is the only type of business that must pay its own income taxes on profits.

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#1502220 --- 07/23/17 04:41 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.usnews.com/opinion/economic-...ncome-tax-rates

Are you hearing that U.S. corporations are taxed much more than their international competitors, making it harder for them to compete in global markets? Those who think so want policymakers to substantially cut corporate income taxes, protect corporate tax loopholes or both. But that claim is highly misleading to begin with, as this recent Wall Street Journal analysis of pharmaceutical giant Pfizer's accounting methods illustrates.

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#1502227 --- 07/23/17 06:50 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/economic-...ncome-tax-rates

Are you hearing that U.S. corporations are taxed much more than their international competitors, making it harder for them to compete in global markets? Those who think so want policymakers to substantially cut corporate income taxes, protect corporate tax loopholes or both. But that claim is highly misleading to begin with, as this recent Wall Street Journal analysis of pharmaceutical giant Pfizer's accounting methods illustrates.
Most corporations don't pay taxes as they have moved their headquarters out of the country to diminish their taxable income!

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#1502236 --- 07/23/17 07:18 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: kyle585]
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So what you are saying is that corporations get money from sources other than charging their customers, right ? I have never paid taxes, taxes were added to my customers bill. It's called the cost of doing business. Lower taxes mean lower prices for goods produced and therefore more competitive.


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#1502241 --- 07/23/17 07:31 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: gassy one]
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Most corporations don't pay taxes as they have moved their headquarters out of the country to diminish their taxable income!

Incorrect. Only about 20% of American Companies do not pay taxes.

Still WAY too few.
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#1502242 --- 07/23/17 07:35 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Timbo]
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Most corporations don't pay taxes as they have moved their headquarters out of the country to diminish their taxable income!

Incorrect. Only about 20% of American Companies do not pay taxes.

Still WAY too few.
That's what I'm saying BIMBO DUH! If they move their headquarters overseas they aren't American anymore! Classic example is Burger King! They merged with Tim Hortons and moved their headquarters to Canada!

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#1502246 --- 07/23/17 07:42 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Lower taxes mean lower prices for goods produced and therefore more competitive.

Tax cuts simply fail to create growth consistently or for the long term.
http://www.businessinsider.com/study-tax-cuts-dont-lead-to-growth-2012-9
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/what-effect-lower-tax-rate-capital-gains

CBO Finds Tax Cuts Are Bad for the Economy:
http://www.crfb.org/blogs/cbo-finds-tax-cuts-are-bad-economy
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#1502269 --- 07/24/17 09:49 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Timbo]
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I would debate the issue with you but when you start losing the arguement you will start crying that I'm off topic. Both you and klye are good at changing the subject then cry FOUL.
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#1502270 --- 07/24/17 10:03 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Timbo]
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That's why New York State is doing so well, we have the highest taxes.
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#1502291 --- 07/24/17 11:56 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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Wow, I didn't think this would happen. This is a thread that was about a claim that Seneca falls is Unfriendly. Kyle tried derailing it to a Landfill thread which stopped rather quickly.
But now it has derailed to Trump and taxes. Let's try to get back to the subject. Seneca Falls has become unfriendly because of several things. 1. The National Park does not promote the area well. 2. The local community is tired of outsiders coming in and telling them what to do. 3. The Town itself is a disaster and people are not happy with how it is being ran. 4. Tourists that come here are not the most pleasant either. I have had tourists give me a hard time in Seneca Falls. 6. The biggest problem is that most people are friendly in Seneca falls, But there is a segment of the population that is very rude in this town. They have been here for a long time for generations in fact and it seems to be some families. What I see is that the residents need to look at what this town is like compared to 10 years ago, 20 years ago and see what has changed. It boils down to 3 things Lost of employment, the increase of Social Service recipients that were moved here or came here for the services, and the lack of reasons to be proud of the town. Anyone remember when Convention Days was a Huge ordeal or when St Anthonies festival was something to go to or when there was a parade downtown and entertainment was available? Canal fest is OK but it is not enough. Seneca Falls needs to do a lot of soul searching but the biggest problem is that it needs to fix it's leadership and get rid of some of the excess that the town has created in the past few years. But the only way to do that is to have the masses make their voices be heard. What would happen at a town board meeting if 5000 voters showed up? What would happen if 5000 residents started calling the elected clowns demanding to be heard? The problem is that the parties and the politicians have divided the masses. Remember a divided house will fall. So let's fix the problem as a group ignoring the politicians and the leaders of the political parties. There is no need for that especially at the local level we should be looking out for each other and the town itself. just some random thoughts on how to fix the problems with Seneca Falls and to answer yes to some degree Seneca Falls is unfriendly but it can be fixed and everyone will be better off. Unfortunately, this is only philosophy because the people won't come together as on voice.

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#1502292 --- 07/24/17 12:12 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Hello_Governer]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Lower taxes mean lower prices for goods produced and therefore more competitive.

Tax cuts simply fail to create growth consistently or for the long term.
http://www.businessinsider.com/study-tax-cuts-dont-lead-to-growth-2012-9
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/what-effect-lower-tax-rate-capital-gains

CBO Finds Tax Cuts Are Bad for the Economy:
http://www.crfb.org/blogs/cbo-finds-tax-cuts-are-bad-economy
Originally Posted By: Hello_Governer
I would debate the issue with you but when you start losing the arguement you will start crying that I'm off topic. Both you and klye are good at changing the subject then cry FOUL.

You won't debate me because history repeatedly bears out the fact that there's no debating it.
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#1502293 --- 07/24/17 12:18 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Hello_Governer]
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That's why New York State is doing so well, we have the highest taxes.

No, we have the drain of New York City, corporate welfare/tax loopholes and NAFTA.

Facts are funny that way.
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#1502305 --- 07/24/17 01:38 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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She offered an example. Ghazala hired a man from California who was fluent in both English and Spanish. One day while at a local eatery, the man was speaking Spanish on the phone. He was told he was being rude and was asked to leave the establishment. The next day, the man resigned from his position at the park.

Did they specifically say he was being rude for speaking Spanish? Maybe it was because he was talking loud and being obnoxious to the other paying customers in the local eatery.

Sounds like the guy was a little too sensitive and his bubble got popped. He quit his job over this? Wow. Probably better that he fired himself anyways. Why should we automatically assume that he was the victim. Maybe it was the other people that were the victims of hearing this loud mouth. This guy couldn't even give the proper notice. He left his job with a moments notice. A supervisor is really defending someone like this??

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#1502316 --- 07/24/17 04:01 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: Hello_Governer
That's why New York State is doing so well, we have the highest taxes.

No, we have the drain of New York City, corporate welfare/tax loopholes and NAFTA.

Facts are funny that way.

Your facts are real funny, do you get them from comic books ?
http://www.rockinst.org/observations/wardr/2011-12-giving_getting.aspx
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#1502317 --- 07/24/17 04:12 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: hearallseeall]
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Originally Posted By: hearallseeall
Originally Posted By: http://fingerlakes1.com/2017/07/18/seneca-falls-community-unfriendly-to-intolerant-of-visitors/
She offered an example. Ghazala hired a man from California who was fluent in both English and Spanish. One day while at a local eatery, the man was speaking Spanish on the phone. He was told he was being rude and was asked to leave the establishment. The next day, the man resigned from his position at the park.

Did they specifically say he was being rude for speaking Spanish? Maybe it was because he was talking loud and being obnoxious to the other paying customers in the local eatery.

Sounds like the guy was a little too sensitive and his bubble got popped. He quit his job over this? Wow. Probably better that he fired himself anyways. Why should we automatically assume that he was the victim. Maybe it was the other people that were the victims of hearing this loud mouth. This guy couldn't even give the proper notice. He left his job with a moments notice. A supervisor is really defending someone like this??

Ghazala may be stretching the truth a little bit grin
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#1502321 --- 07/24/17 07:52 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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Maybe she simply tried to shed light on the problem. Of course Ms. Ghazala really never stood a chance trying to express her concerns. Let's hope that someone will see the importance of her comments. Think about it. One of the most important sites in the world for the improvement of human rights is still trying to sell the idea to the locals. People from around the world come here. How ironic it must seem when they can't feel welcome.

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#1502347 --- 07/24/17 08:49 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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Tourist's can be a problem too ya know, at times they can be very rude. Ghazala just might get in trouble with her boss over this. Let's just wait and see if she gets transferred. Any bets ?
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#1502371 --- 07/25/17 07:09 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: deadphilosopher]
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Originally Posted By: deadphilosopher
Wow, I didn't think this would happen. This is a thread that was about a claim that Seneca falls is Unfriendly. Kyle tried derailing it to a Landfill thread which stopped rather quickly.
But now it has derailed to Trump and taxes. Let's try to get back to the subject. Seneca Falls has become unfriendly because of several things. 1. The National Park does not promote the area well. 2. The local community is tired of outsiders coming in and telling them what to do. 3. The Town itself is a disaster and people are not happy with how it is being ran. 4. Tourists that come here are not the most pleasant either. I have had tourists give me a hard time in Seneca Falls. 6. The biggest problem is that most people are friendly in Seneca falls, But there is a segment of the population that is very rude in this town. They have been here for a long time for generations in fact and it seems to be some families. What I see is that the residents need to look at what this town is like compared to 10 years ago, 20 years ago and see what has changed. It boils down to 3 things Lost of employment, the increase of Social Service recipients that were moved here or came here for the services, and the lack of reasons to be proud of the town. Anyone remember when Convention Days was a Huge ordeal or when St Anthonies festival was something to go to or when there was a parade downtown and entertainment was available? Canal fest is OK but it is not enough. Seneca Falls needs to do a lot of soul searching but the biggest problem is that it needs to fix it's leadership and get rid of some of the excess that the town has created in the past few years. But the only way to do that is to have the masses make their voices be heard. What would happen at a town board meeting if 5000 voters showed up? What would happen if 5000 residents started calling the elected clowns demanding to be heard? The problem is that the parties and the politicians have divided the masses. Remember a divided house will fall. So let's fix the problem as a group ignoring the politicians and the leaders of the political parties. There is no need for that especially at the local level we should be looking out for each other and the town itself. just some random thoughts on how to fix the problems with Seneca Falls and to answer yes to some degree Seneca Falls is unfriendly but it can be fixed and everyone will be better off. Unfortunately, this is only philosophy because the people won't come together as on voice.
DEADPHILPHILOSOPHER you are both right and wrong Seneca Falls has always been a divided unfriendly community. Seneca Falls doesn't want to " BE FIXED "

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#1502379 --- 07/25/17 09:32 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Tourist's can be a problem too ya know, at times they can be very rude. Ghazala just might get in trouble with her boss over this. Let's just wait and see if she gets transferred. Any bets ?


Sadly some can be tagged for rudeness but tourists leave. Those who live here are responsible for the perception. This tail can not wag the dog.

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#1502387 --- 07/25/17 10:33 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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Maybe she simply tried to shed light on the problem. Of course Ms. Ghazala really never stood a chance trying to express her concerns. Let's hope that someone will see the importance of her comments. Think about it. One of the most important sites in the world for the improvement of human rights is still trying to sell the idea to the locals. People from around the world come here. How ironic it must seem when they can't feel welcome.


People who were born & raised come home and experience similar issues. It's a pretty common topic of conversation among SF "ex-pats" and it's a shame that people don't take it more seriously. The comments on the FL1 page were very revealing, and quite disappointing.
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#1502518 --- 07/27/17 03:53 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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Did Ghazala have anything to say about the Mounties disdain for heterosexual coworkers?

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#1502564 --- 07/28/17 03:45 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Top Dog]
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Did Ghazala have anything to say about the Mounties disdain for heterosexual coworkers?


Ok, now you have peeked my interest....what do you mean?

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#1502573 --- 07/28/17 09:02 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: DR. D]
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I am accusing National Park employees of being biased against heterosexual employees.
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#1502575 --- 07/29/17 06:26 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Top Dog]
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I am accusing National Park employees of being biased against heterosexual employees.
.


No need to accuse anyone, just as with her statement I hear the same.


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#1502643 --- 07/31/17 12:50 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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I was at the meeting when Ghazala spoke to the board about this young man leaving because he felt unwelcome. She described it as a situation where he simply was speaking Spanish on the phone, the business owner or worker overheard him speaking Spanish and told him to leave and go back to where he came from (or similar language to that). It had nothing to do with being loud or obnoxious to anyone in the establishment. This is a situation of intolerance. To blame the victim and call them a name is to support the intolerance. Seneca Falls cannot grow in tourism if such behavior is tolerated.

Imagine you were some place where everyone spoke another language, you are bilingual and use another language when speaking to a friend or relative on the phone while at a business. Suddenly the business owner yells at you and tells you to go back where you came from. With the increase of hate crimes in this country, I can imagine that I would perhaps feel "unsafe" in a community that treated me that way. Would I stay there? I don't think so.

If nothing else, this situation does merit a discussion about how Seneca Falls treats tourists / outsiders. There are many closed storefronts in downtown Seneca Falls. They will not reopen if Seneca Falls is not seen as a welcoming community, whether it be for health reasons because of the dump or because the business community is intolerant.

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#1502648 --- 07/31/17 02:24 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: KRedfoot]
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I was at the meeting when Ghazala spoke to the board about this young man leaving because he felt unwelcome. She described it as a situation where he simply was speaking Spanish on the phone, the business owner or worker overheard him speaking Spanish and told him to leave and go back to where he came from (or similar language to that). It had nothing to do with being loud or obnoxious to anyone in the establishment. This is a situation of intolerance. To blame the victim and call them a name is to support the intolerance. Seneca Falls cannot grow in tourism if such behavior is tolerated.

Imagine you were some place where everyone spoke another language, you are bilingual and use another language when speaking to a friend or relative on the phone while at a business. Suddenly the business owner yells at you and tells you to go back where you came from. With the increase of hate crimes in this country, I can imagine that I would perhaps feel "unsafe" in a community that treated me that way. Would I stay there? I don't think so.

If nothing else, this situation does merit a discussion about how Seneca Falls treats tourists / outsiders. There are many closed storefronts in downtown Seneca Falls. They will not reopen if Seneca Falls is not seen as a welcoming community, whether it be for health reasons because of the dump or because the business community is intolerant.

Especially in light of the fact that within a couple decades, the hispanic population in the US is projected to outnumber all others.

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#1502652 --- 07/31/17 02:48 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: KRedfoot]
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I take it you've never been to Montreal where they refuse to speak anything but French. I was told a totally different story by the way. crazy
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#1502656 --- 07/31/17 07:10 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: DR. D]
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Originally Posted By: DR. D
Originally Posted By: Top Dog
I am accusing National Park employees of being biased against heterosexual employees.
.


No need to accuse anyone, just as with her statement I hear the same.

There's a lot of that happening.

I'm sure she also thinks straight white males should be systematically eradicated as well.

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#1502657 --- 07/31/17 07:24 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: KRedfoot]
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Originally Posted By: KRedfoot
I was at the meeting when Ghazala spoke to the board about this young man leaving because he felt unwelcome. She described it as a situation where he simply was speaking Spanish on the phone, the business owner or worker overheard him speaking Spanish and told him to leave and go back to where he came from (or similar language to that). It had nothing to do with being loud or obnoxious to anyone in the establishment. This is a situation of intolerance. To blame the victim and call them a name is to support the intolerance. Seneca Falls cannot grow in tourism if such behavior is tolerated.

Imagine you were some place where everyone spoke another language, you are bilingual and use another language when speaking to a friend or relative on the phone while at a business. Suddenly the business owner yells at you and tells you to go back where you came from. With the increase of hate crimes in this country, I can imagine that I would perhaps feel "unsafe" in a community that treated me that way. Would I stay there? I don't think so.

If nothing else, this situation does merit a discussion about how Seneca Falls treats tourists / outsiders. There are many closed storefronts in downtown Seneca Falls. They will not reopen if Seneca Falls is not seen as a welcoming community, whether it be for health reasons because of the dump or because the business community is intolerant.


Lets say the story is true. I guess it makes us all bigots. But it doesn't make it the town board's problem. If a business is refusing to take cash from someone for stupid reasons, my tax dollars don't need to fix it. Sorry, that is the cold truth.

Newsflash...downtown was emptied long before the landfill became a mountain.

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#1502658 --- 07/31/17 08:02 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: deadphilosopher]
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Wow, I didn't think this would happen. This is a thread that was about a claim that Seneca falls is Unfriendly. Kyle tried derailing it to a Landfill thread which stopped rather quickly.
But now it has derailed to Trump and taxes. Let's try to get back to the subject. Seneca Falls has become unfriendly because of several things. 1. The National Park does not promote the area well. 2. The local community is tired of outsiders coming in and telling them what to do. 3. The Town itself is a disaster and people are not happy with how it is being ran. 4. Tourists that come here are not the most pleasant either. I have had tourists give me a hard time in Seneca Falls. 6. The biggest problem is that most people are friendly in Seneca falls, But there is a segment of the population that is very rude in this town. They have been here for a long time for generations in fact and it seems to be some families. What I see is that the residents need to look at what this town is like compared to 10 years ago, 20 years ago and see what has changed. It boils down to 3 things Lost of employment, the increase of Social Service recipients that were moved here or came here for the services, and the lack of reasons to be proud of the town. Anyone remember when Convention Days was a Huge ordeal or when St Anthonies festival was something to go to or when there was a parade downtown and entertainment was available? Canal fest is OK but it is not enough. Seneca Falls needs to do a lot of soul searching but the biggest problem is that it needs to fix it's leadership and get rid of some of the excess that the town has created in the past few years. But the only way to do that is to have the masses make their voices be heard. What would happen at a town board meeting if 5000 voters showed up? What would happen if 5000 residents started calling the elected clowns demanding to be heard? The problem is that the parties and the politicians have divided the masses. Remember a divided house will fall. So let's fix the problem as a group ignoring the politicians and the leaders of the political parties. There is no need for that especially at the local level we should be looking out for each other and the town itself. just some random thoughts on how to fix the problems with Seneca Falls and to answer yes to some degree Seneca Falls is unfriendly but it can be fixed and everyone will be better off. Unfortunately, this is only philosophy because the people won't come together as on voice.


The community is divided in many ways. There are the ones who have a sense of entitlement, there are those that are wanna be's who strive for that sense of entitlement, there are those that struggle just to survive, and there are those who have no hope. Each group lives in its own realm and is isolated from the others. Too bad people have lost how to come together. It is a spiritual problem.

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#1502659 --- 07/31/17 08:34 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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The community is divided in many ways. There are the ones who have a sense of entitlement, there are those that are wanna be's who strive for that sense of entitlement, there are those that struggle just to survive, and there are those who have no hope. Each group lives in its own realm and is isolated from the others. Too bad people have lost how to come together. It is a spiritual problem.

The Ami Ghazala's are the problem with the world today.

Instead of focusing on the positives and coming together, everybody wants to find the negatives and divide.

More and more people are dividing into groups (blacks, indians, women, muslims, kkk, terrorist, whites, koreans, and whatever other group you can think of) and looking out for their own interest group rather than coming together with everyone and work together and make sure everyone succeeds.

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#1502661 --- 07/31/17 08:47 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: hearallseeall]
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Agreed.

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#1502662 --- 07/31/17 08:53 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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and what was the "recent demonstration at the park" that was in question that the article refers to?

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#1502679 --- 08/01/17 05:47 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: hearallseeall]
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Originally Posted By: hearallseeall
The Ami Ghazala's are the problem with the world today.

Instead of focusing on the positives and coming together, everybody wants to find the negatives and divide.

More and more people are dividing into groups (blacks, indians, women, muslims, kkk, terrorist, whites, koreans, and whatever other group you can think of) and looking out for their own interest group rather than coming together with everyone and work together and make sure everyone succeeds.


I completely agree.........(DoctorD: Runs screaming down hallway realizing he agreed with hereall's statement)

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#1502712 --- 08/02/17 06:03 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: DR. D]
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Originally Posted By: DR. D
Originally Posted By: hearallseeall
The Ami Ghazala's are the problem with the world today.

Instead of focusing on the positives and coming together, everybody wants to find the negatives and divide.

More and more people are dividing into groups (blacks, indians, women, muslims, kkk, terrorist, whites, koreans, and whatever other group you can think of) and looking out for their own interest group rather than coming together with everyone and work together and make sure everyone succeeds.


I completely agree.........(DoctorD: Runs screaming down hallway realizing he agreed with hereall's statement)


Not only did Dr. D agree with Hearall, they both agreed with Ghazala.

It strikes me that Ghazala was pointing out the very same problem. That he noted that there was a part of local society that was looking out for their interest group and not ready of come together with the staff at the park, or work together so Seneca Falls succeeds.

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#1502718 --- 08/02/17 08:04 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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Too bad that the attitude of some preclude an overarching truth which stems from our community's history. It is there to be capitalized on but no.

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#1502725 --- 08/02/17 10:13 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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If the board is going to address anything, it should be how to make downtown more inviting and successful. The people who own the buildings can't go charging an arm and a leg for rent. Something has got to give. I understand they can charge what they want, but wouldn't they rather be collecting some rent, than no rent. I don't know, doesn't make much sense to me.

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#1502726 --- 08/02/17 11:05 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Red22]
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I don't agree. I don't believe the government should be allowed to tax landowners and dictate what they are allowed to charge for rent. We live in a free, capitalistic society.

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#1502728 --- 08/02/17 12:03 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Top Dog]
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I think we have become a nation of crybabies, we've all been discriminated against in some fashion at some point in our lives. Get over it and move on. Gee I can remember being picked on for wearing glasses when I was a kid. cry


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#1502730 --- 08/02/17 12:09 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Top Dog]
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I don't agree. I don't believe the government should be allowed to tax landowners and dictate what they are allowed to charge for rent. We live in a free, capitalistic society.

With laws and rules in order to benefit the greater good of society.

Municipalities for instance, have the right to set such rules in order to create urban planning that will attract what they deem to be in the best interest of the community. They hold public forums and make decisions based on what they interpret to be in line with the wishes of their constituents (compromises and all). Those same public officials are duly elected and empowered to make the decisions FOR us, ( again, compromises and all). That's the whole idea behind state's rights... the freedom of local/state governments to do as they establish are in the best interest of "the people". That's why in the US you are free to travel unmolested (to whatever place you choose live, visit or to conduct commerce). In the case of commerce, there are separate laws/rules.

We are a Democratic Republic which by definition has inherent elements of socialistic functions, like it or not. The fact that our economy functions by capitalistic principals, in no way negates that fact. Nor does it define our country solely by it's brand of economy.

It is a blend of multiple philosophies/principals, none of which are pure or without limitation.
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#1502738 --- 08/02/17 03:29 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Timbo]
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That is precisely what has turned NEW York State into a welfare state. crazy
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#1502739 --- 08/02/17 04:13 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: scwoodchuck]
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That is precisely what has turned NEW York State into a welfare state. crazy

Brilliant explanation. Care to elaborate, or should everyone simply go on faith that you actaully have a specific definition for the word "that"??? crazy crazy crazy

Really, now.
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#1502747 --- 08/02/17 06:32 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
That is precisely what has turned NEW York State into a welfare state. crazy

Brilliant explanation. Care to elaborate, or should everyone simply go on faith that you actaully have a specific definition for the word "that"??? crazy crazy crazy

Really, now.


The fundamentals of the economy only work one way. Finding ways to bring cash here makes more sense than shaming and blaming the welfare recipients. Sure it is easy point a false finger. It produces more harm than good. Just like being unfriendly to visitors. No wonder.....

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#1502752 --- 08/02/17 08:25 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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Shovel ready available locations. Whether it is Seneca Falls, Waterloo, or south. We need to build our community to invite newcomer investments. There are dead downtowns throughout upstate. Cheap rent is not the answer. Argue over whatever you want to call it. One thing for sure, nobody will show up if we don't do it.

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#1502753 --- 08/02/17 08:29 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Timbo]
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With laws and rules in order to benefit the greater good of society.

Municipalities for instance, have the right to set such rules in order to create urban planning that will attract what they deem to be in the best interest of the community. They hold public forums and make decisions based on what they interpret to be in line with the wishes of their constituents (compromises and all). Those same public officials are duly elected and empowered to make the decisions FOR us, ( again, compromises and all). That's the whole idea behind state's rights... the freedom of local/state governments to do as they establish are in the best interest of "the people". That's why in the US you are free to travel unmolested (to whatever place you choose live, visit or to conduct commerce). In the case of commerce, there are separate laws/rules.

We are a Democratic Republic which by definition has inherent elements of socialistic functions, like it or not. The fact that our economy functions by capitalistic principals, in no way negates that fact. Nor does it define our country solely by it's brand of economy.

It is a blend of multiple philosophies/principals, none of which are pure or without limitation.


All but the most strident libertarian would recognize that some land use regulation is appropriate to ensure health, safety and liveability.

That's not the same thing as dictating how much people should charge for rent, however. That tends to touch more on a private contract between parties, with a lesser degree of imminment public risk.

I suppose one could point to NYC's rent control laws as an example of telling landlords what they can charge. However, putting aside that Seneca Falls is not NYC, either in size or economic activity, there's a sizeable body of evidence that rent control laws can actually decrease the pool of affordable housing.

In any event, considering that SF derives much of its income from property taxes, and property taxes on rental properties are often based on income, why would SF want to reduce potential tax revenue by reducing landlord income?

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#1502755 --- 08/02/17 09:00 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Top Dog]
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Originally Posted By: Top Dog
Shovel ready available locations. Whether it is Seneca Falls, Waterloo, or south. We need to build our community to invite newcomer investments. There are dead downtowns throughout upstate. Cheap rent is not the answer. Argue over whatever you want to call it. One thing for sure, nobody will show up if we don't do it.

It depends. A thriving residential population has at LEAST as much impact on a healthy urban environment (if not greater) than does retail/service property.

Civic Planning 101.
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#1502756 --- 08/02/17 09:02 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Sam the Sham]
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Originally Posted By: Sam the Sham
All but the most strident libertarian would recognize that some land use regulation is appropriate to ensure health, safety and liveability.

That's not the same thing as dictating how much people should charge for rent, however. That tends to touch more on a private contract between parties, with a lesser degree of imminment public risk.

I suppose one could point to NYC's rent control laws as an example of telling landlords what they can charge. However, putting aside that Seneca Falls is not NYC, either in size or economic activity, there's a sizeable body of evidence that rent control laws can actually decrease the pool of affordable housing.

In any event, considering that SF derives much of its income from property taxes, and property taxes on rental properties are often based on income, why would SF want to reduce potential tax revenue by reducing landlord income?

And let's not forget the reason that rent control laws were instituted in the first place.
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#1502757 --- 08/02/17 09:23 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Timbo]
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Yes. A world war.

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#1502766 --- 08/03/17 02:38 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Sam the Sham]
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I suggest people review the long history of the past gross abuses by NY state property owners.

I also suggest studying up on the distinct difference between rent control and rent stabilization.
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#1502770 --- 08/03/17 07:01 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Timbo]
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But they both lead to urban decay. When you start controlling how much a landlord can change for rent the property is usually neglected.
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#1502777 --- 08/03/17 11:46 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Timbo]
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I suggest people review the long history of the past gross abuses by NY state property owners.

I also suggest studying up on the distinct difference between rent control and rent stabilization.


I suggest we stay grounded, along with on the topic. If anything is unfriendly here it's all the special interests and the anger that is brought to the table. People notice it.

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#1502809 --- 08/04/17 02:51 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Top Dog]
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To ignore the special interest, is to ignore the core issues.
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#1502810 --- 08/04/17 02:52 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: scwoodchuck]
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But they both lead to urban decay. When you start controlling how much a landlord can change for rent the property is usually neglected.

Where's your evidence to support that statement... respectfully?
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#1502811 --- 08/04/17 05:12 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Timbo]
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Really a good topic about something factual and you guys are discussing rent issues.

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#1502813 --- 08/04/17 09:38 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Top Dog]
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I suggest we stay grounded, along with on the topic. If anything is unfriendly here it's all the special interests and the anger that is brought to the table. People notice it.

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A very interesting observation. However, the issue is definitely real regardless of what sidebar distractions are thrown in. Sneaky, snarky, snooty Seneca Falls has a little sunshine thrown on its elitist delusions.

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#1502814 --- 08/04/17 10:25 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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No doubt. There is improvement needed.

That doesn't make the National Park a good welcome wagon.

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#1502815 --- 08/04/17 10:38 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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Of course, it's their fault. I knew it. Just such a simple and clear non explanation.

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#1502817 --- 08/04/17 11:35 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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Five pages of discussion, no substantive discussion of the topic or self-reflection; no suggestions on how to create a friendlier, more open atmosphere.

Never change, FL1 forums.
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#1502819 --- 08/04/17 11:52 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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Start by admitting things could be better what say you long time FL1 poster.....got any suggestions beyond the usual

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#1502820 --- 08/04/17 11:55 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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Find ways to show hospitality each and every time you go out and encounter anyone, not just those you know.

Consider helping to show others how to present the best of themselves by following your example for you have done the same.

Visit the Park, show up and make a difference.



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#1502821 --- 08/04/17 12:53 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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Find ways to show hospitality each and every time you go out and encounter anyone, not just those you know.

Consider helping to show others how to present the best of themselves by following your example for you have done the same.

Visit the Park, show up and make a difference.



I guess I'm failing to see how the folks of Seneca Falls are unfriendly. Naturally, you're going to have jerks that live in all communities. I work downtown and hear nothing but great things from tourists. People tell me that Seneca Falls is a wonderful little town, that it's beautiful, and also charming. I can honestly say I have not heard one negative comment from a visitor regarding it as "unfriendly".

To make a public accusation that Seneca Falls is unfriendly, based off of the experience of one guy, is a tad bothersome, and to be honest, offensive.

I am 35 years old, went to school here, went to college in Rochester, work here, and reside here. I love it here, and I love the area. I work to make Seneca Falls a better place. I travel often and promote the Finger Lakes area nonstop. I contribute to travel forums as much as I can, giving props to Seneca Falls, ALWAYS.

This town isn't perfect, and some folks here are pretentious as hell, but what town is perfect?

Here's Johnny is right. Be the change you want to see in the world.

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#1502822 --- 08/04/17 12:58 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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Originally Posted By: Here's Johnny
Sneaky, snarky, snooty Seneca Falls has a little sunshine thrown on its elitist delusions.

Examples?
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#1502825 --- 08/04/17 03:14 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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Start by admitting things could be better what say you long time FL1 poster.....got any suggestions beyond the usual


Good comment. I expressed on the 4th page of this discussion a direction that would help. Shovel ready locations invite investment. In other words, mowing the grass on the other side of the road at the Clam Man's isn't enough. We must have water, sewer, power and abatement. Bring in fresh investment and new people.

Downtown discussion is meaningless. Downtown will reflect success or failure, it won't create it.

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#1502830 --- 08/04/17 04:36 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Red22]
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Quote:
To make a public accusation that Seneca Falls is unfriendly, based off of the experience of one guy, is a tad bothersome, and to be honest, offensive.


It's clear that Ranger came in with an agenda and would probably be a lot happier at a park in San Francisco, Berkeley or Ithaca. Or Greenwich Village

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#1502835 --- 08/05/17 03:14 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: past tense]
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Originally Posted By: past tense
Five pages of discussion, no substantive discussion of the topic or self-reflection; no suggestions on how to create a friendlier, more open atmosphere.

Never change, FL1 forums.


The Facebook post on this made all the above stuff look like a sewing circle.

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#1502836 --- 08/05/17 03:17 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Top Dog]
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Originally Posted By: Top Dog
Downtown will reflect success or failure, it won't create it.


This is where you are wrong, unless you are one of the good ol' boys offspring your stuff isn't succeeding in SF.

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#1502838 --- 08/05/17 07:32 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: DR. D]
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Originally Posted By: DR. D
Really a good topic about something factual and you guys are discussing rent issues.
Low cost housing is what attracts people to this area just look at all the people from downstate and the Northeast who buy houses and lake property because it's so cheap. Then they try to turn the area into a place just like the place they just ran away from.
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#1502839 --- 08/05/17 07:35 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: Here's Johnny
Sneaky, snarky, snooty Seneca Falls has a little sunshine thrown on its elitist delusions.

Examples?
YOU
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#1502843 --- 08/05/17 05:19 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: DR. D
Really a good topic about something factual and you guys are discussing rent issues.
Low cost housing is what attracts people to this area just look at all the people from downstate and the Northeast who buy houses and lake property because it's so cheap. Then they try to turn the area into a place just like the place they just ran away from.


Oh believe me this rent thing is a whole separate topic you discuss and one that I would be more than glad to give my input on.

However, I believe although entitled to her opinion and guaranteed freedom of speech the director of the WHF like any good front person should choose her words more wisely since she is a Federal employee(Remember when she refused to put the flag at half mast?). The core of what she does is public service based on tourists and thusly telling people that folks from SF are mean only brings negative attention.

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#1502884 --- 08/06/17 07:35 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: DR. D]
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Originally Posted By: Top Dog
Downtown will reflect success or failure, it won't create it.


This is where you are wrong, unless you are one of the good ol' boys offspring your stuff isn't succeeding in SF.


What are you talking about here?

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#1502885 --- 08/06/17 08:43 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Top Dog]
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The downtown should support and embrace new start ups even though the owners are not home grown...if you know what I mean.

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#1502897 --- 08/07/17 12:54 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: DeReRustica]
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Originally Posted By: DeReRustica


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Originally Posted By: DR. D
Originally Posted By: hearallseeall
The Ami Ghazala's are the problem with the world today.

Instead of focusing on the positives and coming together, everybody wants to find the negatives and divide.

More and more people are dividing into groups (blacks, indians, women, muslims, kkk, terrorist, whites, koreans, and whatever other group you can think of) and looking out for their own interest group rather than coming together with everyone and work together and make sure everyone succeeds.


I completely agree.........(DoctorD: Runs screaming down hallway realizing he agreed with hereall's statement)


Not only did Dr. D agree with Hearall, they both agreed with Ghazala.

It strikes me that Ghazala was pointing out the very same problem. That he noted that there was a part of local society that was looking out for their interest group and not ready of come together with the staff at the park, or work together so Seneca Falls succeeds.

Now you're putting words into my mouth. I don't agree with her at all. I think she's over reacting and from the little bit that I read here she sounds like a heterophobe (maybe all straight men need to protest in front of her office with hats opposite of what the women wore for their protest).

Working together is one thing. Saying the whole town is not welcoming because of one guy's problem is another. Sounds like they are both way too sensitive. I think the town has more than bent over backwards tried to work together with the Women's Rights National Park. Half of the downtown area is dedicated to Women's Rights shops or museums.

Maybe people in SF can't stand the women's rights park or got annoyed because of all the people that were blocking Fall Street in January. Talk about a nuisance. People have things to do and we have people whining and blocking the street about trivial issues.


I do understand her position though. It is her job to make a big deal out of nothing. I mean, the modern women's rights movement is really making something out of nothing and a farce. Women and minorities have more opportunities today for just meeting the simple criteria of being female or a minority. If you're not succeeding as a woman or minority today, it's really your own fault. Minorities and women have the same rights has everyone else. I know plenty of minorities and women that make really good salaries (60-70-100G plus) with great careers.

Here's an example:
https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governo...tate-exceeds-20

The only thing MWBE's do is increase taxes for NYS residents. Literally, the NYS branch that is ordering products, orders from a nationally owned company that is linked to a MWBE. You place the order through the MWBE and the order comes from directly from the nationally known company. A certain percentage gets added to the price of the product or service that the MWBE receives. The state can then say they purchased the product from a MWBE. The MWBE business did literally nothing except be a middle woMAN and collect the markup on the product.

And we wonder why taxes are going through the roof?!?! It's because of bogus PC programs like Article 15-A.









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#1502899 --- 08/07/17 05:03 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: hearallseeall]
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I don't agree with her at all. I think she's over reacting and from the little bit that I read here she sounds like a heterophobe (maybe all straight men need to protest in front of her office with hats opposite of what the women wore for their protest).


Oh my God, I agree again.

Secondly the hat idea....Brilliant.

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#1502906 --- 08/07/17 10:54 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: DR. D]
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The downtown should support and embrace new start ups even though the owners are not home grown...if you know what I mean.


I get what you mean and agree. My point is that downtown is not the cause of a great economy that it seems to be portrayed as in this thread.

Taxes and jobs are generated by the Outlet Mall, Walmart, and car dealerships. Hopefully del Lago has joined that group. Not of which offer an abundance of high paying jobs, but jobs just the same. A small retail store downtown is nice, but not in that league.

My point that we need to build astronger local economy and then money invested in downtown will follow.

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#1502949 --- 08/07/17 08:06 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Top Dog]
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Every community in New York is trying to build a stronger economy. Seneca Falls has nothing to offer business except opposition.
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#1502951 --- 08/07/17 08:09 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: scwoodchuck]
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...nality-map.html

HOME»NEWS»WORLD NEWS»NORTH AMERICA»USA
New Yorkers are neurotic and unfriendly, says Cambridge University 'personality map'
New York is home to the most neurotic and unfriendly people in America
Must be everyone thinks this excludes Seneca Falls.
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#1503193 --- 08/11/17 05:03 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: hearallseeall]
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http://www.fltimes.com/opinion/letters_t...9dc0f64711.html

LETTER: Saddened by the prejudice she is seeing locally
Mike Cutillo 1 hr ago 0
To the Editor:

This is an open letter to the woman who called the police on my step-son for riding his long board down the street. She called the police because "A Hispanic man keeps riding by her house." He is 16 and his friend lives two doors down from her.

The police came and were very kind to my step-son, letting him know he had every right to ride his long board in the street.


I am deeply saddened that someone in my neighborhood could be so prejudiced. Would she have called if he was white? Why does she fear someone with darker skin?

I am writing this in hopes of educating people, letting them know that they do not have to fear someone because they are different. My step-son is Syrian/Native American. I want him to grow up in a world where differences are celebrated, not feared. I ask that everyone who reads this take the time to ask themselves what they would have done and educate themselves.

We do not need to live in fear. We need to live in love.


LARA WATSON

Seneca Falls


Edited by Hello_Governer (08/11/17 05:07 PM)
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#1503209 --- 08/12/17 12:01 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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Friendly or not, Seneca Falls smells like @$$. Breathing in the air in Seneca Falls is enough to make your lungs hurt. Who cares if the people are friendly, if behind that friendly demeanor is a willingness to pollute the lungs of every man, woman, and child who has the misfortune of passing through?

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#1503219 --- 08/12/17 05:27 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Kells]
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Stop it, you want to make landfill comments go to one of the 57 anti-landfill threads.

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#1503222 --- 08/12/17 06:31 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Kells]
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A good psychiatrist could make a fortune in Seneca Falls grin
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#1503307 --- 08/12/17 10:06 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Hello_Governer]
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Originally Posted By: Hello_Governer
http://www.fltimes.com/opinion/letters_t...9dc0f64711.html

LETTER: Saddened by the prejudice she is seeing locally
Mike Cutillo 1 hr ago 0
To the Editor:

This is an open letter to the woman who called the police on my step-son for riding his long board down the street. She called the police because "A Hispanic man keeps riding by her house." He is 16 and his friend lives two doors down from her.

The police came and were very kind to my step-son, letting him know he had every right to ride his long board in the street.


I am deeply saddened that someone in my neighborhood could be so prejudiced. Would she have called if he was white? Why does she fear someone with darker skin?

I am writing this in hopes of educating people, letting them know that they do not have to fear someone because they are different. My step-son is Syrian/Native American. I want him to grow up in a world where differences are celebrated, not feared. I ask that everyone who reads this take the time to ask themselves what they would have done and educate themselves.

We do not need to live in fear. We need to live in love.


LARA WATSON

Seneca Falls

ZzzzZZZzzzz.

Another person playing the race card.

Going with the 'Would she have called if he was white' question. . . What if the woman said there is a white kid riding by my house? Maybe she was annoyed by him. Would we be all emotional because the person said "white person"?? It's just like when a black person commits a crime and the news media holds back that the person is black and tells us we need to be on the lookout for a 6' male 180 lbs. Well, that really narrows it down.

Either way, why bring it to this level. Why don't you go ask her in person if she hates your son because of his skin color or because he rides by her house 80x a day. Lara sounds like a drama queen just like Ami.

Maybe Lara should stick to being a better animal communicator.

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#1503317 --- 08/13/17 09:45 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: hearallseeall]
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The letter is appropriate in this discussion. You should talk about being a drama queen.
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#1503360 --- 08/14/17 10:34 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: hearallseeall]
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Originally Posted By: hearallseeall
Originally Posted By: DeReRustica


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Originally Posted By: DR. D
Originally Posted By: hearallseeall
The Ami Ghazala's are the problem with the world today.

Instead of focusing on the positives and coming together, everybody wants to find the negatives and divide.

More and more people are dividing into groups (blacks, indians, women, muslims, kkk, terrorist, whites, koreans, and whatever other group you can think of) and looking out for their own interest group rather than coming together with everyone and work together and make sure everyone succeeds.


I completely agree.........(DoctorD: Runs screaming down hallway realizing he agreed with hereall's statement)


Not only did Dr. D agree with Hearall, they both agreed with Ghazala.

It strikes me that Ghazala was pointing out the very same problem. That he noted that there was a part of local society that was looking out for their interest group and not ready of come together with the staff at the park, or work together so Seneca Falls succeeds.

Now you're putting words into my mouth. I don't agree with her at all. I think she's over reacting and from the little bit that I read here she sounds like a heterophobe (maybe all straight men need to protest in front of her office with hats opposite of what the women wore for their protest).

Working together is one thing. Saying the whole town is not welcoming because of one guy's problem is another. Sounds like they are both way too sensitive. I think the town has more than bent over backwards tried to work together with the Women's Rights National Park. Half of the downtown area is dedicated to Women's Rights shops or museums.

Maybe people in SF can't stand the women's rights park or got annoyed because of all the people that were blocking Fall Street in January. Talk about a nuisance. People have things to do and we have people whining and blocking the street about trivial issues.


I do understand her position though. It is her job to make a big deal out of nothing. I mean, the modern women's rights movement is really making something out of nothing and a farce. Women and minorities have more opportunities today for just meeting the simple criteria of being female or a minority. If you're not succeeding as a woman or minority today, it's really your own fault. Minorities and women have the same rights has everyone else. I know plenty of minorities and women that make really good salaries (60-70-100G plus) with great careers.

Here's an example:
https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governo...tate-exceeds-20

The only thing MWBE's do is increase taxes for NYS residents. Literally, the NYS branch that is ordering products, orders from a nationally owned company that is linked to a MWBE. You place the order through the MWBE and the order comes from directly from the nationally known company. A certain percentage gets added to the price of the product or service that the MWBE receives. The state can then say they purchased the product from a MWBE. The MWBE business did literally nothing except be a middle woMAN and collect the markup on the product.

And we wonder why taxes are going through the roof?!?! It's because of bogus PC programs like Article 15-A.


"maybe all straight men need to protest in front of her office with hats opposite of what the women wore for their protest"

Hats with dog ears?
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#1503361 --- 08/14/17 10:39 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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If you didn't mean dog ears, and you meant a hat with a replica of your genitalia on it (which women marchers did not wear) I can tell you right now--on behalf of all feminists, we certainly encourage you to begin marching with penises on your heads.

Please. Start knitting immediately.
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#1503362 --- 08/14/17 11:14 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: past tense]
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I like both ideas. Dog ears vould honah me. Und der udder idea vould be great because vhy should male protesters look any less redeeculous dan der feminuts?

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#1503402 --- 08/15/17 07:00 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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So here we are again... Ridicule all you want. Does any moment of clarity occur? Does it even seem something could matter enough to take a long look at how we present ourselves? Visitors for all over the world come to SF to honor and reflect upon the history of Women's Rights. Too bad even when we are shown the ball we can't pick it up and run with it.


Edited by Here's Johnny (08/15/17 07:01 AM)

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#1503405 --- 08/15/17 10:49 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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Originally Posted By: Here's Johnny
So here we are again... Ridicule all you want. Does any moment of clarity occur? Does it even seem something could matter enough to take a long look at how we present ourselves? Visitors for all over the world come to SF to honor and reflect upon the history of Women's Rights. Too bad even when we are shown the ball we can't pick it up and run with it.

I don't think any moment of clarity has occurred.

The protesters of modern day women's rights don't even know what they are fighting for. Wage gap!? That's a laugh. Like I said, I know plenty of women who are making more than men and got the position on the sole fact that they are female and/or a so-called minority so the HR can meet their quotas. So, it wasn't the best qualified person that got the job, it was the best woman/minority that got the job.

We have silly breakfast cereal commercials catering to women just for the sake of companies jumping on the new political movement train. Women have kids!? Women run businesses? Women run marathons? Women run businesses? How? Because they eat! Wow. I didn't know women eat. That commercial was really enlightening. Are you mad because of wearing a bra? OK-go braless-make the world a happier place:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7wlGwgixlQ

You know society is doomed when we have women that act like men and men that act like women. Then, some WOmen take it a step further and have addadictame surgeries. I guess they really own that. Lol.

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#1503406 --- 08/15/17 10:53 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: past tense]
hearallseeall Offline
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Originally Posted By: past tense
If you didn't mean dog ears, and you meant a hat with a replica of your genitalia on it (which women marchers did not wear) I can tell you right now--on behalf of all feminists, we certainly encourage you to begin marching with penises on your heads.

Please. Start knitting immediately.

Women protesters weren't wearing vagina hats? Was that for the black lives matter protest? Are you saying all men are dogs?

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#1503415 --- 08/15/17 02:13 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: hearallseeall]
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The hats were knitted in the shape of cat ears.

They were nicknamed "p**** hats" because that is a double entendre--the word means cat, and also the way the president meant it, in reference to a woman's external reproductive organs, which he said he could grab whenever he liked.

So if you are wearing hats "opposite of the ones at the women's march" you are referencing either:

a) A hat knitted in the shape of dog ears
b) A hat knitted to represent the external male genitalia

Either way, feminists win.

And I assure you, we know what we're marching for. Just because I make more money than some men doesn't mean a wage gap does not exist. That's like saying global warming isn't real because it snows in some places.

Wait, let me guess.
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#1503416 --- 08/15/17 02:15 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Here's Johnny]
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#1503421 --- 08/15/17 03:50 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: past tense]
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Originally Posted By: past tense
The hats were knitted in the shape of cat ears.

They were nicknamed "p**** hats" because that is a double entendre--the word means cat, and also the way the president meant it, in reference to a woman's external reproductive organs, which he said he could grab whenever he liked.

So if you are wearing hats "opposite of the ones at the women's march" you are referencing either:

a) A hat knitted in the shape of dog ears
b) A hat knitted to represent the external male genitalia

Either way, feminists win.

And I assure you, we know what we're marching for. Just because I make more money than some men doesn't mean a wage gap does not exist. That's like saying global warming isn't real because it snows in some places.

Wait, let me guess.

Actually this is what I was referring to when I made the off the cuff comment.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2yaH6sVEAIlBND.jpg:large

So, I'm not sure what the feminist won but congrats.

And I'm not supporting Trump but if you're worried about a comment such as grab them by the "p_$$y" I'd say you're getting a little too sensitive. We have countries preparing to drop nukes on us and we are worried about word play cry cry Plus, that was a private conversation. Let's think about all the things you may have said in private to another person. I'm sure that everyone has said stuff that wouldn't meet the approval of EVERYONE in the world.

Let's not even get into all the women that are degrading women and making vulgar comments. That's OK though right because a woman can degrade another woman, right?

You had Madonna and Miley Cyrus leading the whole three ring circus. Both great role models for women *sarcasm*. They've used and abused more men and women sexually in one week compared to what Trump did in a year or lifetime.

And yea, you are right. If you are making more than some men a wage gap does exist and the male needs to make an equal salary. Why should the male make less simply based on his gender?


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#1503424 --- 08/15/17 05:59 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: past tense]
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Originally Posted By: past tense
Six pages, no reflection. Never change, forum!
But it has changed, about 90% of the people go elsewhere crazy
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#1503488 --- 08/16/17 05:45 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: hearallseeall]
past tense Offline
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Originally Posted By: hearallseeall
Originally Posted By: past tense
The hats were knitted in the shape of cat ears.

They were nicknamed "p**** hats" because that is a double entendre--the word means cat, and also the way the president meant it, in reference to a woman's external reproductive organs, which he said he could grab whenever he liked.

So if you are wearing hats "opposite of the ones at the women's march" you are referencing either:

a) A hat knitted in the shape of dog ears
b) A hat knitted to represent the external male genitalia

Either way, feminists win.

And I assure you, we know what we're marching for. Just because I make more money than some men doesn't mean a wage gap does not exist. That's like saying global warming isn't real because it snows in some places.

Wait, let me guess.

Actually this is what I was referring to when I made the off the cuff comment.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2yaH6sVEAIlBND.jpg:large

So, I'm not sure what the feminist won but congrats.

And I'm not supporting Trump but if you're worried about a comment such as grab them by the "p_$$y" I'd say you're getting a little too sensitive. We have countries preparing to drop nukes on us and we are worried about word play cry cry Plus, that was a private conversation. Let's think about all the things you may have said in private to another person. I'm sure that everyone has said stuff that wouldn't meet the approval of EVERYONE in the world.

Let's not even get into all the women that are degrading women and making vulgar comments. That's OK though right because a woman can degrade another woman, right?

You had Madonna and Miley Cyrus leading the whole three ring circus. Both great role models for women *sarcasm*. They've used and abused more men and women sexually in one week compared to what Trump did in a year or lifetime.

And yea, you are right. If you are making more than some men a wage gap does exist and the male needs to make an equal salary. Why should the male make less simply based on his gender?



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#1503555 --- 08/17/17 06:56 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: past tense]
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Being a resident of SF, for over 40yrs......I have seen a change, in Friendliness, through the years & not for the good, in many cases. However, I would say not much different then most small communities. I want to stay positive...for example: Parker's - never had bad or unfriendly service. Carol & her staff greet with a smile...home town style. Ferrara Lumber - The Ferrara family & staff again, friendly service..."Can we help you?". Red's Place - "Where everyone knows your name." Pedulla's Liquor - Amy & her staff top notch...friendly service. What happened to Seneca Clothing, Ceo & Rutz, Super Duper, State Bank, Seneca Falls Savings, etc.??? All were home town friendly & knew you & your family. Clothing & Shoes outlet mall, groceries Topps & Wal-mart and local banks gone & controlled by BIG banks. Or have become a BIG bank. To conclude the demographics has changed, more low income & welfare.....more people walking the streets doing nothing.

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#1503567 --- 08/18/17 12:09 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Lee Alias]
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I laughed when I read your post. You must be somehow related to the businesses you mentioned because I have heard many complaints about every one of those businesses. If you listen to former employees and customers they will tell you just the opposite.
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#1503865 --- 08/22/17 08:26 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
I laughed when I read your post. You must be somehow related to the businesses you mentioned because I have heard many complaints about every one of those businesses. If you listen to former employees and customers they will tell you just the opposite.



This could be said for any business, anywhere. Someone always has a beef with someone else. This doesn't prove that Seneca Falls is unfriendly.

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#1503869 --- 08/22/17 08:41 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Red22]
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I have seen restaurants online with many comments about the place. Some people say it is the best place they ever ate and some say it is the worst place they ever ate. Go figure.

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#1503899 --- 08/22/17 05:03 PM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: kyle585]
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#1504256 --- 08/29/17 11:58 AM Re: So, is Seneca Falls unfriendly? [Re: Hello_Governer]
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399 reviews as of 08-29-17.

387 in the 'average' and above reviews.
12 in the 'poor' and 'terrible' section.

So, 3% are in the cry baby group.

Sounds about right. 95% of our news is about what 3-4% of the nation is crying about.

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