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#1500589 --- 06/28/17 08:04 PM How can anyone support the catholic church anymore?
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/28/asia/cardinal-pell-australia/index.html?adkey=bn

Cardinal George Pell, the most senior member of the Catholic Church in Australia, has been charged with multiple historical sexual assault offenses, police said Thursday.

Pell has previously denied covering up abuse committed by priests when he served as the Archbishop of Melbourne from 1996 to 2001. But he acknowledged his predecessor, Archbishop Frank Little, now deceased, had destroyed documents to protect priests.
"I want to be perfectly clear -- the process and the procedures that have been followed in the charging of Cardinal Pell have been the same that have been applied in a whole range of historical sex offenses whenever we investigate them," Victoria Deputy Police Commissioner Shane Patton said at a news conference.

"Cardinal Pell has been treated the same as anyone else in this investigation."

Pell will be required to appear in the Melbourne Magistrate's court on July 18th for a filing hearing. He is facing multiple charges and there are multiple complainants relating to those charges, police said.
The announcement is likely to deal a serious blow to the reputation of the Catholic Church in Australia, which has seen its membership shrink in recent years. The 2016 census results, released Tuesday, showed that Catholics no longer make up the top religious affiliation in Australia.

During a government inquiry in 2013, Pell apologized for the abuse as a witness and acknowledged that cover-ups allowed pedophile priests to continue abusing children.
"The primary motivation would have been to respect the reputation of the church. There was a fear of scandal," Pell said. ''Many in the church did not understand just what damage was being done to the victims. We understand that better now."
Pell is based in the Vatican and is reported to still be there, according to The Sydney Morning Herald.

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#1501513 --- 07/14/17 01:06 PM Re: How can anyone support the catholic church anymore? [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.vox.com//the-big-idea/2017/7/14/15959682/evangelical-mainline-voting-patterns-trump

n April, the New York Times’s Ross Douthat wrote a column arguing — appropriately for a Sunday opinion piece — that liberals need to go to church. More specifically, he argued: “The wider experience of American politics suggests that as liberalism de-churches it struggles to find a nontransactional organizing principle, a persuasive language of the common good.”

For a theologically confessional Lutheran and politically conservative Republican like me, this is an interesting suggestion. How much of the cultural and political change we have observed in the past 20 years can be explained by the quiet death of the “mainlines”?

For readers not familiar with Christian denominational classifications, “mainline” is the term that students of American religious life use to refer to more theologically or politically liberal white-majority churches. Since Sunday morning remains America’s most segregated hour, experts separate “historically black Protestant” churches into their own group, and then divide the white churches into various segments.

Mainline churches today remain diverse but tend to share a cluster of overlapping values: They may endorse same-sex marriage in the church, hold more lenient views on extramarital sex, confess less exclusivist views of eternal salvation, and focus more political efforts toward Christian social relief rather than Christian moral teachings; many mainlines have formal fellowship agreements with one another.

These churches are dying off at a very quick pace. Within the Presbyterian family, the “mainline” Presbyterian Church (USA) is shrinking while the “evangelical” Presbyterian Church of America is growing. Within the Lutheran family, the “mainline” Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (yes, the “Evangelical Lutherans” are mainline, not evangelical; one of many absurdities in religious verbiage) is shrinking rapidly while “evangelical” Wisconsin or Missouri Synod Lutherans are either holding steady or shrinking slowly. Within the Methodist family, “mainline” United Methodists are shrinking while “evangelical” Free Methodists are holding steady. Both sides of the Baptist family tree are shrinking, but the mainline side is shrinking faster.

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#1501584 --- 07/15/17 08:28 AM Re: How can anyone support the catholic church anymore? [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/14/politics/pope-advisers-trump-supporters/index.html

Two close confidants of Pope Francis have written an article in a Jesuit journal that strongly criticizes some American religious supporters of President Donald Trump for their fundamentalist views, which the authors say demonize others and create fear and hatred.

The article, in the Vatican-reviewed journal La Civiltà Cattolica, says some American evangelicals and Catholics have become a "community of combatants" who seek to impose a "xenophobic and Islamophobic vision that wants walls and purifying deportations."

Father Antonio Spadaro, editor of La Civiltà Cattolica, and pastor Marcelo Figueroa, editor-in-chief of the Argentinian edition of L'Osservatore Romano, in an article titled, "Evangelical Fundamentalism and Catholic Integralism in the USA: A surprising ecumenism," take "value voters" to task for wanting religion to influence politics in what the authors call a "nostalgic dream of a theocratic type of state."

The authors claim that conservative Catholics and evangelicals come together over "shared objectives," such as combating abortion and same-sex marriage or promoting religious education in schools, fostering an "ecumenism of conflict" that demonizes others.

"The panorama of threats to their understanding of the American way of life have included modernist spirits, the black civil rights movement, the hippy movement, communism, feminist movements and so on," the authors write. "And now in our day there are the migrants and the Muslims."

The authors accuse chief White House strategist Steve Bannon of supporting "an apocalyptic geopolitics" based on misguided theopolitical thinking that centers on state submission to the Bible, an idea "that is no different from the one that inspires Islamic fundamentalism."


Edited by kyle585 (07/15/17 08:29 AM)

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#1501792 --- 07/18/17 11:22 AM Re: How can anyone support the catholic church anymore? [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/germany-doms...linkId=39892071

At least 547 members of a prestigious Catholic boys' choir in Germany were physically or sexually abused between 1945 and 1992, according to a report released Tuesday.

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#1503465 --- 08/16/17 08:08 AM Re: How can anyone support the catholic church anymore? [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/boston-globe...linkId=41032039

BS News August 16, 2017, 7:33 AM

Boston Globe's Spotlight team unveils bombshell report on children of Catholic priests

The Boston Globe's Spotlight team is unveiling a report on what it calls a worldwide and "systemic problem" within the Catholic Church: priests fathering illegitimate children.

Reporter Michael Rezendes, who was depicted in the 2015 Oscar-winning movie "Spotlight," writes thousands of people across the world – "in Ireland, Mexico, Poland, Paraguay, and other countries, in American cities big and small" – have "strong evidence that they are the sons and daughters of Catholic priests." The children say they're often neglected or shamed into silence.

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#1503506 --- 08/16/17 10:00 PM Re: How can anyone support the catholic church anymore? [Re: kyle585]
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Most of them are lefty liberals who like little boys Kyle!

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#1504031 --- 08/24/17 11:36 AM Re: How can anyone support the catholic church anymore? [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Most of them are lefty liberals who like little boys Kyle!
Not this time. Wrong again.

Blavity‏Verified account @Blavity Aug 22

Catholic priest steps down after revealing he was a member of the KKK http://bit.ly/2wvz3wV

Prior to joining the Catholic church, Reverend William Aitcheson of Arlington, Virginia was a Ku Klux Klan member, the Washington Post reports.

Now the 62-year-old Catholic priest is temporarily stepping down from public ministry. The move comes after he revealed in an editorial he wrote for the Arlington Catholic Herald, "Moving from Hate to Love with God’s Grace," that he was a KKK member.

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#1504032 --- 08/24/17 11:45 AM Re: How can anyone support the catholic church anymore? [Re: kyle585]
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CBS News‏Verified account @CBSNews 2h2 hours ago

Catholic priest who penned an apology for his KKK past never paid court-ordered damages for his crimes in the 1970s http://cbsn.ws/2wr2T5o

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#1504528 --- 09/07/17 10:52 AM Re: How can anyone support the catholic church anymore? [Re: kyle585]
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CBS News‏Verified account @CBSNews 7h7 hours ago

White Christians are now a minority of U.S. population, survey finds http://cbsn.ws/2eN6owc

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#1504555 --- 09/08/17 10:33 AM Re: How can anyone support the catholic church anymore? [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kirk-cameron-hurricanes_us_59b22199e4b0dfaafcf6d9a4

Kirk Cameron has some interesting views on weather.

The former child actor and current star of the evangelical circuit seems to believe hurricanes such as Harvey and Irma are messages from God.

“How should we look at two giant hurricanes coming back to back like this?” he said in a video posted on his Facebook page. “Do we write them off as coincidence? Do we write it off as a statistical anomaly? Wow! Who would’ve thought? Is it just Mother Nature in a bad mood?”

None of the above, he said.

He also skipped meteorological explanations and cited a passage in the Old Testament Book of Job that describes storms created by God either as “punishment” or to “demonstrate his faithful love.”

In the video, viewed more than 240,000 times, Cameron called hurricanes “a spectacular display of God’s immense power.”

He added:

“When he puts his power on display it’s never without reason. There’s a purpose. And we may not always understand what that purpose is, but we know it’s not random and we know that weather is sent to cause us to respond to God in humility, awe and repentance.”

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#1504556 --- 09/08/17 11:32 AM Re: How can anyone support the catholic church anymore? [Re: kyle585]
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Maybe God is mad at the USA for electing Trump? It seems to be only logical explanation.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/dangerous-wind...topstories.html

"Obviously Hurricane Irma continues to be a threat that is going to devastate the United States," Brock Long, administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency Administrator (FEMA), said at a press conference Friday morning. "

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#1504557 --- 09/08/17 11:35 AM Re: How can anyone support the catholic church anymore? [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/08/us/hurricane-jose/index.html

Hurricane Jose strengthened to an "extremely dangerous" Category 4 storm Friday with maximum sustained winds near 150 mph, according to the National Hurricane Center.

The storm sits east of the Leeward Islands and is forecast to move west-northwest into the Atlantic Ocean over the coming days.

This is the first time on record that the Atlantic has had two hurricanes with 150-plus mph winds at the same time, Colorado State University meteorologist Philip Klotzbach said.

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#1504618 --- 09/10/17 08:20 PM Re: How can anyone support the catholic church anymore? [Re: kyle585]
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Not even getting close to us Kyle! You got the wrong cut & paste again Kyle? You better check out CNN again! LOL!

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