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#1505674 --- 09/30/17 03:25 AM Re: President Trump Live [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/29/opinions/t...itis/index.html

The general's speech is the one we wish the President could make

It is the speech we wish the President of the United States had delivered.
Alas, it fell to an Air Force general to remind America of its values. His rank may be lower than the commander in chief's, but Lt. Gen. Jay B. Silveria spoke with extraordinary passion and eloquence.
Everyone in America should listen to Silveria's words; everyone, including the President.

It happened on Thursday, at the 10th Air Base Wing in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Silveria, the superintendent of the US Air Force Academy, brought together more than 5,000 students, staff and Air Force officers to tell them with electrifying clarity that prejudice, bigotry and intolerance cannot be allowed to go unchallenged.

Air Force academy head to racists: 'Get out'

Someone had written racist slurs on a message board at the academy's prep school, where students hone the skills to join the prestigious Air Force Academy. If his audience had not heard about the incident, Silveria wanted to make sure they knew.

"If you're outraged," he said, "you're in the right place."
He was just getting started. "You should be outraged not only as an airman, but as a human being."

With the five-minute video of his powerful lesson going viral, you can almost hear much of America answering, "Amen!"

If the general's resonant words had sounded in the same hall a couple of years ago, they would not have spread across the country; they would not have seemed remarkable. After all, speaking out against hatred has been a staple of America's most respected leaders for decades. But that has changed. It started to change the day Donald Trump launched his presidential election campaign. His willingness to traffic in bigotry has threatened to unravel America's social fabric and undermine the country's standing in the world from the day he became President.

Silveria would not attack his commander in chief, but he knows that when five black students found the words "Go home" with a racial epithet on the message boards outside their rooms, it was not an isolated incident.
We would be "tone deaf," he said, "not to think about the backdrop of what's going on in our country." He mentioned the events in Charlottesville and Ferguson, and the controversy over protests at NFL games.

Silveria gave the clearest explanation of how free speech is supposed to work. "The appropriate response for horrible language and horrible ideas -- the appropriate response is a better idea."

In the battlefield of ideas, the general launched a frontal assault. "We are here," he said, "because we have a better idea." He called for "civil discourse" on the issues tearing the country apart.
And he explained why the ideas of the bigots are wrong, speaking about how diversity creates strength, about the power we derive because, "we come from all walks of life... from all races ... all backgrounds ... all upbringings."

The general extolled the academy's values. He might have been talking about American values, about human values, about the principles that America proudly championed until recently, exhorting his rapt audience to defend them -- and to leave if they cannot embrace them.

At the heart of those intangible principles of tolerance and respect for others lies the most important element of humanity -- the imperative to treat every human being with respect.
"If you can't treat some with dignity and respect, then you need to get out," Silveria declared. "If you can't treat someone of another gender ... of another race or a different color skin with dignity and respect, then you need to get out."

His words are all the more striking because he could have been addressing the current president.

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#1505675 --- 09/30/17 03:29 AM Re: President Trump Live [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
I would believe Politico too! LOL!
Read this gassy and try and understand this if you never read anything I ever post again.

That is why Trump complains so much about the press. Without a free press Trump could operate like his hero Putin and do whatever he wants including murdering journalists. The American free press reports what is going on in Russia. The Russian people don't know. The Russian people may suspect what is going on but they don't know or have any way of knowing the truth. Their press can't report anything critical of Putin without fearing for their lives. Our free press is our most important freedom. It allows me to post this without fear of going to jail or being murdered by our nations leaders.

If this is all blah,blah, blah to you then you don't understand what our constitution has done in making us a free people. And the great danger we now face in having a president who is so very critical of our press. Politicians who are hero's like John McCain speak up for the press.

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/m...started-n722906

Meet the Press Feb 19 2017, 9:35 pm ET

Republican Sen. John McCain took a veiled swipe at President Donald Trump's attacks on the media, cautioning that suppressing the press “is how dictators get started.”

McCain, who has broken with Trump on several issues, made the comments in an exclusive interview with NBC’s "Meet the Press" host Chuck Todd, after being asked about the president’s condemnation of several media outlets as "fake news" and "an enemy of the American people."

"I hate the press. I hate you especially," McCain joked. "But the fact is we need you. We need a free press. We must have it. It's vital."

"If you want to preserve — I'm very serious now — if you want to preserve democracy as we know it, you have to have a free and many times adversarial press," McCain said. "And without it, I am afraid that we would lose so much of our individual liberties over time. That's how dictators get started."
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#1505693 --- 09/30/17 10:10 AM Re: President Trump Live [Re: kyle585]
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The Partisan press you mean!

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#1505700 --- 09/30/17 12:07 PM Re: President Trump Live [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
The Partisan press you mean!
Do you agree with Trump that the press is the enemy of the people?

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#1505731 --- 09/30/17 01:33 PM Re: President Trump Live [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
The Partisan press you mean!
Do you agree with Trump that the press is the enemy of the people?
Depends on which news outlet you are talking about!

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#1505738 --- 09/30/17 02:08 PM Re: President Trump Live [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
The Partisan press you mean!
Do you agree with Trump that the press is the enemy of the people?
Depends on which news outlet you are talking about!
I know which ones you don't like. Most of the two dozen I link to. Give me two examples that you do like please. Probably the Hometown Review from Waterloo? grin

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#1505745 --- 09/30/17 03:10 PM Re: President Trump Live [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
The Partisan press you mean!
Do you agree with Trump that the press is the enemy of the people?
Depends on which news outlet you are talking about!
I know which ones you don't like. Most of the two dozen I link to. Give me two examples that you do like please. Probably the Hometown Review from Waterloo? grin

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#1505753 --- 09/30/17 08:48 PM Re: President Trump Live [Re: Teonan]
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Actually the Pennysaver ain't bad! LOL!

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#1505761 --- 10/01/17 12:43 AM Re: President Trump Live [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Actually the Pennysaver ain't bad! LOL!
My worst firms confirmed.

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#1505769 --- 10/01/17 01:23 AM Re: President Trump Live [Re: kyle585]
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Barack Obama&#8207; @ThePresObama 9h9 hours ago

We stand with #PuertoRico &#127477;&#127479;
Unfortunately, @realDonaldTrump didn't know you were part of the United States until this week.

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#1505770 --- 10/01/17 01:29 AM Re: President Trump Live [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/president-donald-trump-impeachment-billboard-california/

OAKLAND, Calif. -- Drivers crossing the Bay Bridge from Oakland to San Francisco witnessed an in-your-face political statement Monday morning.

CBS San Francisco reports a billboard that calls for the impeachment of President Trump was constructed along the roadway.

The digital ad bears a giant photo of a brooding Mr. Trump with the word "Impeach" in huge yellow letters. It also has a URL for an online petition.

The billboard is the work of a group called the Courage Campaign, whose president says it's time to get the country behind the removal of Mr. Trump. They want to pressure the Republican-controlled Congress, which has shown no inclination to impeach the president.

"We are a grassroots organization. If we are not calling for impeachment, given what has happened, who is?" asked the organization's president and executive director, Eddie Kurtz.

He points out that more than a million people cross the bridge every day, so it's an incredibly strategic place to have a billboard.

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#1505771 --- 10/01/17 01:30 AM Re: President Trump Live [Re: kyle585]
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Elizabeth Warren&#8207;Verified account @SenWarren 11h11 hours ago

The definition of "poor leadership" is sitting at your golf club while millions of US citizens beg for your help, @realDonaldTrump.

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#1505772 --- 10/01/17 01:30 AM Re: President Trump Live [Re: kyle585]
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NBC News&#8207;Verified account @NBCNews 3h3 hours ago

Ex-CIA director Brennan defends NFL players' national anthem protests, says Trump should focus on Puerto Rico http://nbcnews.to/2xLx70S

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#1505773 --- 10/01/17 01:33 AM Re: President Trump Live [Re: kyle585]
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Chris Hayes Retweeted
John Morales&#8207;Verified account @JohnMoralesNBC6 Sep 29

Starting 4 days prior to landfall NHC wrote 17 full Hurricane María advisories. Every single one called for landfall in Puerto Rico. 16 of those forecasts called for María to hit as a major hurricane. Remarkable work by NHC. Impact should've been no surprise to anyone, *anywhere*

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#1505797 --- 10/01/17 08:13 PM Re: President Trump Live [Re: kyle585]
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OMG! Couldn't help anybody till the storm was clear and the airport & ports were clear! Everything doesn't happen instantly! What a bunch of crybabies! Puerto Rico contributes zilch to the USA but always has their hand out for more!

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#1505815 --- 10/02/17 01:15 AM Re: President Trump Live [Re: gassy one]
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OMG! Couldn't help anybody till the storm was clear and the airport & ports were clear! Everything doesn't happen instantly! What a bunch of crybabies! Puerto Rico contributes zilch to the USA but always has their hand out for more!
Haiti was a foreign nation, not part of the USA as Puerto Rico is.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investiga...m=.4ac9829d0d6b

U.S. response in Puerto Rico pales next to actions after Haiti quake

After an earthquake shattered Haiti’s capital on Jan. 12, 2010, the U.S. military mobilized as if it were going to war.

Before dawn the next morning, an Army unit was airborne, on its way to seize control of the main airport in Port-au-Prince. Within two days, the Pentagon had 8,000 American troops en route. Within two weeks, 33 U.S. military ships and 22,000 troops had arrived. More than 300 military helicopters buzzed overhead, delivering millions of pounds of food and water.

No two disasters are alike. Each delivers customized violence that cannot be fully anticipated. But as criticism of the federal government’s initial response to the crisis in Puerto Rico continued to mount Thursday, the mission to Haiti — an island nation several hundred miles from the U.S. mainland — stands as an example of how quickly relief efforts can be mobilized.

By contrast, eight days after Hurricane Maria ripped across neighboring Puerto Rico, just 4,400 service members were participating in federal operations to assist the devastated island, an Army general told reporters Thursday. In addition, about 1,000 Coast Guard members were aiding the efforts. About 40 U.S. military helicopters were helping to deliver food and water to the 3.4 million residents of the U.S. territory, along with 10 Coast Guard helicopters.

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#1505849 --- 10/02/17 03:35 PM Re: President Trump Live [Re: gassy one]
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OMG! ... Puerto Rico contributes zilch to the USA but always has their hand out for more!

Bull! Without Puerto Rico the US wouldn't have developed a MASSIVELY profitable sugar industry, to name only one of dozens of major contributions to the US. Using natives to fight wars so that white soldiers didn't have to, being one of the bigger contributions, as well. The fact that US lied to them and and deny promises must certainly count as another.
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#1505856 --- 10/02/17 07:52 PM Re: President Trump Live [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
OMG! ... Puerto Rico contributes zilch to the USA but always has their hand out for more!

Bull! Without Puerto Rico the US wouldn't have developed a MASSIVELY profitable sugar industry, to name only one of dozens of major contributions to the US. Using natives to fight wars so that white soldiers didn't have to, being one of the bigger contributions, as well. The fact that US lied to them and and deny promises must certainly count as another.

There's the velvet gloved iron fist of U.S. colonialism for ya.
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#1505857 --- 10/02/17 08:01 PM Re: President Trump Live [Re: Timbo]
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How much tax revenue do we get from them flower petal compared to what we pay to them each year?


https://panampost.com/frank-worley-lopez/2014/01/08/puerto-ricos-problems-money/

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#1505873 --- 10/03/17 02:56 AM Re: President Trump Live [Re: gassy one]
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-...egative-n806681

Oct 2 2017, 1:54 pm ET
Trump’s Right: His Media Coverage Is Mostly Negative

President Donald Trump frequently complains about media coverage of his administration, and a study released Monday confirms his suspicion: Most of it has been negative.

The Pew Research Center, in a content analysis of the early days of the Trump presidency, found that 62 percent of the coverage was negative and only 5 percent was positive.

In contrast, President Barack Obama's coverage in early 2009 was 42 percent positive and 20 percent negative, the study said.

Among recent presidents, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush had higher negative than positive coverage early in their administrations, but not nearly to Trump's degree. Clinton had 28 percent negative coverage and 27 percent positive in 1993, while Bush had 28 percent negative and 22 percent positive in 2001.

Coverage of Trump was primarily focused on “character and leadership” versus policy, according to the Pew Center, a nonprofit based in Washington. The study also showed that only 2 percent of stories from outlets with a right-leaning audience refuted statements made by Trump or his administration, while 15 percent of stories carried by left-leaning outlets questioned the administration.

“It certainly shows that where people turn for news has implications for what they’re hearing about President Trump,” said Amy Mitchell, Pew’s director of journalism research.

The study looked at online general news sites with at least 20 million average unique monthly visitors, according to Pew, as well as the cable networks CNN, Fox News and MSNBC, and the evening news programs from the broadcast networks and PBS. Top talk radio shows and National Public Radio were also included.

The overall study was conducted from Jan. 21 to April 30 and examined 3,000 news stories across 24 media outlets. The portion of the study that measured how positively the media covered Trump was conducted over the first 60 days of the administration and compared a smaller sub-set of outlets to make sure it was comparable with the Clinton era.

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