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#1500276 --- 06/20/17 05:35 PM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: ThomasDecker]
Teonan Offline
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://abcnews.go.com/International/isis-years-jv-team-international-killers/story?id=40214844

Jun 29, 2016

The deadly attack in the Istanbul airport late Tuesday, suspected to be the work of the ISIS, comes as the terrorist group today marks the second anniversary of the declaration of its Islamic “caliphate,” or kingdom.

In that time, the group has gone from obscurity, mocked by President Barack Obama as a terrorist “JV team,” to the world’s most brutal terrorist network, not only responsible for thousands of deaths in the Middle East but also linked to hundreds more in dozens of terrorist plots in the West.

ISIS currently controls thousands of square miles in Iraq and Syria, though the U.S. military says the group been pushed out of swaths of land, especially in Iraq, since a territorial high point in late summer 2014.

In January of that year in a New Yorker profile, Obama made the “JV team” remark. Administration officials have since said it was not specifically about ISIS but about various extremist groups.

At the time, ISIS was not a household name. Even when the group declared its “caliphate” on June 29, 2014, in an audio message, relatively few in the West outside counterterrorism circles took notice — though the rare public appearance of ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi in Mosul, Iraq, a few days later raised some eyebrows.


Are you going to do anything Daesh, or radical islam?


Consulting with a liberal Democrat?? Wowzee Tom, your alt-right militia comrades leaving ya feelin' a bit insecure these days?
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#1500278 --- 06/20/17 05:56 PM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: Teonan]
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Originally Posted By: Teonan
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker


Are you going to do anything Daesh, or radical islam?


Consulting with a liberal Democrat?? Wowzee Tom, your alt-right militia comrades leaving ya feelin' a bit insecure these days?


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Consulting with a liberal Democrat??


Not in the sense you're trying to portray, Ton.
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#1500605 --- 06/29/17 04:36 AM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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A solid majority of Americans continue to disapprove of President Trump's job performance, according to a host of recent opinion surveys.

A NPR/PBS/Marist poll released Wednesday found 38 percent of registered voters approve of the president's job performance, while 53 percent disapprove. (That survey also had some interesting findings on the public view of Republican efforts to overturn Obamacare.)

In an Economist/YouGov survey also released on Wednesday, 42 percent of registered voters said they approve of the job Mr. Trump is doing as president, while 53 percent said they disapprove.

Thirty-nine percent of Americans in a Gallup poll released Tuesday gave the president's job performance a thumbs-up, while 57 percent gave it a thumbs-down.

And a Reuters/Ipsos poll released Tuesday put Mr. Trump's approval rating at 34 percent among Americans nationwide, and his disapproval at 58 percent.

The latest CBS News poll, released last week, found that 36 percent of Americans approve of the job the president is doing, while 57 percent disapprove.

These recent polls also reveal a deep pessimism about the trajectory of the country – a trend that may help explain the president's lackluster approval ratings, and one that seems to have gotten worse over the last few months.

Only 32 percent of respondents in the Economist survey said the country is headed in the right direction, while 57 percent said it's on the wrong track. In the PBS survey, 31 percent said we're on the right track, 63 percent disagreed. In the Reuters poll, 24 percent said we're headed in the right direction, while 61 percent said we're on the wrong track. And the latest CBS News numbers show 31 percent of Americans believe we're on the right track, while 64 percent say we're headed in the wrong direction.

Admittedly, the right track/wrong direction numbers have never been particularly optimistic, in recent years. According to the RealClearPolitics average of polls, only once during the last eight years did the number of Americans who believe the country is headed in the right direction match the number of Americans who believe the country is off track: For a brief shining moment in June 2009, roughly 46 percent of Americans fell into each camp.

Since then, pessimism has reigned. The stretch of Mr. Trump's presidency in which Americans were feeling best about the direction of the country came towards the end of March – in the RealClearPolitics average, on March 21, nearly 39 percent of voters said the country is on the right track, while over 51 percent said it's headed in the wrong direction.

In the three months since, that gap has widened considerably. In the same average today, only about 33 percent of Americans say we're on the right track, while over 60 percent say we're headed in the wrong direction.

The NPR/PBS/Marist poll surveyed 995 registered voters between June 21 and June 25, and it has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percent. The Economist/YouGov poll surveyed 1,295 registered voters between June 25 and June 27, and it has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.2 percent. The Gallup poll surveyed 1,500 adults nationwide between June 24 and June 26, and it has a margin of error of plus or minus three percent. The Reuters/Ipsos poll surveyed 1,587 adults nationwide as part of a five-day rolling average, and it has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.6 percent. And the CBS News poll surveyed 1,117 Americans between June 15 and June 18, and it has a margin of error of plus or minus four percent.

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#1500609 --- 06/29/17 07:35 AM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
A solid majority of Americans continue to disapprove of President Trump's job performance, according to a host of recent opinion surveys.

A NPR/PBS/Marist poll released Wednesday found 38 percent of registered voters approve of the president's job performance, while 53 percent disapprove. (That survey also had some interesting findings on the public view of Republican efforts to overturn Obamacare.)

In an Economist/YouGov survey also released on Wednesday, 42 percent of registered voters said they approve of the job Mr. Trump is doing as president, while 53 percent said they disapprove.

Thirty-nine percent of Americans in a Gallup poll released Tuesday gave the president's job performance a thumbs-up, while 57 percent gave it a thumbs-down.

And a Reuters/Ipsos poll released Tuesday put Mr. Trump's approval rating at 34 percent among Americans nationwide, and his disapproval at 58 percent.

The latest CBS News poll, released last week, found that 36 percent of Americans approve of the job the president is doing, while 57 percent disapprove.

These recent polls also reveal a deep pessimism about the trajectory of the country – a trend that may help explain the president's lackluster approval ratings, and one that seems to have gotten worse over the last few months.

Only 32 percent of respondents in the Economist survey said the country is headed in the right direction, while 57 percent said it's on the wrong track. In the PBS survey, 31 percent said we're on the right track, 63 percent disagreed. In the Reuters poll, 24 percent said we're headed in the right direction, while 61 percent said we're on the wrong track. And the latest CBS News numbers show 31 percent of Americans believe we're on the right track, while 64 percent say we're headed in the wrong direction.

Admittedly, the right track/wrong direction numbers have never been particularly optimistic, in recent years. According to the RealClearPolitics average of polls, only once during the last eight years did the number of Americans who believe the country is headed in the right direction match the number of Americans who believe the country is off track: For a brief shining moment in June 2009, roughly 46 percent of Americans fell into each camp.

Since then, pessimism has reigned. The stretch of Mr. Trump's presidency in which Americans were feeling best about the direction of the country came towards the end of March – in the RealClearPolitics average, on March 21, nearly 39 percent of voters said the country is on the right track, while over 51 percent said it's headed in the wrong direction.

In the three months since, that gap has widened considerably. In the same average today, only about 33 percent of Americans say we're on the right track, while over 60 percent say we're headed in the wrong direction.

The NPR/PBS/Marist poll surveyed 995 registered voters between June 21 and June 25, and it has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percent. The Economist/YouGov poll surveyed 1,295 registered voters between June 25 and June 27, and it has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.2 percent. The Gallup poll surveyed 1,500 adults nationwide between June 24 and June 26, and it has a margin of error of plus or minus three percent. The Reuters/Ipsos poll surveyed 1,587 adults nationwide as part of a five-day rolling average, and it has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.6 percent. And the CBS News poll surveyed 1,117 Americans between June 15 and June 18, and it has a margin of error of plus or minus four percent.

You're part of the Problem KYLE!
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#1500613 --- 06/29/17 10:35 AM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
You're part of the Problem KYLE!
I am a journalist? Wow I am so flattered.

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#1500659 --- 06/29/17 09:23 PM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: kyle585]
gassy one Offline
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Registered: 09/27/16
Posts: 1921
Originally Posted By: kyle585
A solid majority of Americans continue to disapprove of President Trump's job performance, according to a host of recent opinion surveys.

A NPR/PBS/Marist poll released Wednesday found 38 percent of registered voters approve of the president's job performance, while 53 percent disapprove. (That survey also had some interesting findings on the public view of Republican efforts to overturn Obamacare.)

In an Economist/YouGov survey also released on Wednesday, 42 percent of registered voters said they approve of the job Mr. Trump is doing as president, while 53 percent said they disapprove.

Thirty-nine percent of Americans in a Gallup poll released Tuesday gave the president's job performance a thumbs-up, while 57 percent gave it a thumbs-down.

And a Reuters/Ipsos poll released Tuesday put Mr. Trump's approval rating at 34 percent among Americans nationwide, and his disapproval at 58 percent.

The latest CBS News poll, released last week, found that 36 percent of Americans approve of the job the president is doing, while 57 percent disapprove.

These recent polls also reveal a deep pessimism about the trajectory of the country – a trend that may help explain the president's lackluster approval ratings, and one that seems to have gotten worse over the last few months.

Only 32 percent of respondents in the Economist survey said the country is headed in the right direction, while 57 percent said it's on the wrong track. In the PBS survey, 31 percent said we're on the right track, 63 percent disagreed. In the Reuters poll, 24 percent said we're headed in the right direction, while 61 percent said we're on the wrong track. And the latest CBS News numbers show 31 percent of Americans believe we're on the right track, while 64 percent say we're headed in the wrong direction.

Admittedly, the right track/wrong direction numbers have never been particularly optimistic, in recent years. According to the RealClearPolitics average of polls, only once during the last eight years did the number of Americans who believe the country is headed in the right direction match the number of Americans who believe the country is off track: For a brief shining moment in June 2009, roughly 46 percent of Americans fell into each camp.

Since then, pessimism has reigned. The stretch of Mr. Trump's presidency in which Americans were feeling best about the direction of the country came towards the end of March – in the RealClearPolitics average, on March 21, nearly 39 percent of voters said the country is on the right track, while over 51 percent said it's headed in the wrong direction.

In the three months since, that gap has widened considerably. In the same average today, only about 33 percent of Americans say we're on the right track, while over 60 percent say we're headed in the wrong direction.

The NPR/PBS/Marist poll surveyed 995 registered voters between June 21 and June 25, and it has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percent. The Economist/YouGov poll surveyed 1,295 registered voters between June 25 and June 27, and it has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.2 percent. The Gallup poll surveyed 1,500 adults nationwide between June 24 and June 26, and it has a margin of error of plus or minus three percent. The Reuters/Ipsos poll surveyed 1,587 adults nationwide as part of a five-day rolling average, and it has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.6 percent. And the CBS News poll surveyed 1,117 Americans between June 15 and June 18, and it has a margin of error of plus or minus four percent.
Stock Market is up! Jobs are up! Illegals are going home! I like the trajectory of the country! Everybody knows how good those polls are Kyle! You haven't learned yet!

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#1500790 --- 07/02/17 06:30 AM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: gassy one]
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A Republican senator says Trump tweets are undermining his agenda. Many Republicans are saying this. But Trump is too dumb and bullheaded to stop. He is out of control and getting worse every week.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/06/29/sen-toomey-trump-tweets-response-lead-sot.cnn

Sen. Toomey: Trump tweets are maddening

Sen. Pat Toomey (R-PA) tells CNN's Jake Tapper that President Trump's tweets are beneath the dignity of the office he holds, and ultimately undermine his agenda.

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#1500821 --- 07/02/17 09:39 PM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: kyle585]
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Registered: 09/27/16
Posts: 1921
Originally Posted By: kyle585
A Republican senator says Trump tweets are undermining his agenda. Many Republicans are saying this. But Trump is too dumb and bullheaded to stop. He is out of control and getting worse every week.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/06/29/sen-toomey-trump-tweets-response-lead-sot.cnn

Sen. Toomey: Trump tweets are maddening

Sen. Pat Toomey (R-PA) tells CNN's Jake Tapper that President Trump's tweets are beneath the dignity of the office he holds, and ultimately undermine his agenda.
I think they are funny! Everybody needs to get a life and quit being offended so easily!

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#1500862 --- 07/04/17 02:23 PM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: gassy one]
kyle585 Offline
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This is one of the best articles I have ever read.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/how-to-be-patriotic-in-the-era-of-trump

Like many grandchildren of immigrants, I was brought up with a special reverence for America. Our country was not to be taken for granted—it was not like all the others.

As a child, I devoured pint-sized presidential biographies where the arc of Oval Office lives was presented as a lesson in character as much as ambition, punctuated by bits of useful wisdom. All were flawed, but taken together the presidential pantheon formed a kind of reassuring firmament over the American story.
Advertisement

But this is the first Fourth of July under President Trump, and the patriotic bunting feels a bit different this year. In less than six months, we have been forced to confront a president uniquely uninterested in uniting the nation, a reflexive divider who is quick to attack civic-minded critics while cozying up to autocrats worldwide. He is a master of bluster and marketing but you can’t graft heroism or character on his life story. Normally, the Oval Office ennobles the occupant, but Trump is governing just the way he campaigned: as a celebrity demagogue whose disregard for facts or common decency is compounded by his ignorance of policy and American history.

This is not a partisan complaint. Most Republicans in Congress will acknowledge this sad state of affairs in private, occasionally in public. What most journalists know is that some members of the administration feel the same way.

Over the course of his campaign, many of his aides privately came to the conclusion that their party’s nominee was a man whose instincts and experience were spectacularly unsuited to the office, even as they resisted a return of the Clintons. This instinct has only grown since inauguration day as many of the presidents’ men and women find themselves engaged in an absurd game of “contain the president” routinely derailed by Twitter tantrums.

And so, this Fourth of July, the challenge is to widen the aperture of our patriotism beyond the president. We are living through a stress test to the American system and we can’t afford to simply tune out or bask in the cynicism of moral relativism. Liberal democracy is not a guarantee and the alternatives have proven themselves worse in every way for fans of individual liberty.

But we can take comfort from the fact that our founders designed the Constitution with someone very much like Donald Trump in mind.

The Achilles heel of democracy was always the danger that people would fall under the sway of a demagogue with authoritarian ambitions. That’s why the founders divided power into three equal branches of government, strengthened with a series of internal and external checks and balances. Participating in the legislative and judicial branch—let alone state and local government—doesn’t get as much attention as presidential-level politics, but it is just as essential to the overall stability of our system.

In the Trump era, it’s no small irony that liberals are suddenly seeing the wisdom of federalism while civil libertarians are more broadly appreciated as defending core values. These are civic evolutions we should not forget when the next president comes to town.

The broader patchwork of checks and balances is also why the president’s obsessive attacks on the credibility of independent journalism should concern every fair-minded citizen. It’s worth remembering that the Constitution doesn’t mention political parties, but it does mention a free press. That’s because the founders recognized that journalism is an essential guarantor of liberty. Don’t take my word for it, listen to James Madison: “To the press alone, checkered as it is with abuses, the world is indebted for all the triumphs which have been gained by reason and humanity over error and oppression.” On the other side of the equation is our current president, who has repeatedly called journalists “the enemy of the American people.”

In the coming months and years, Americans are going to rely on a focused and fearless free press despite the attempts of the administration to attack and intimidate us into silence. We’re going to rely on a vibrant independent judiciary to restrain executive overreach. And we’re going to need principled members of Congress to assert their independence rather than acting as partisan apologists for the president while abandoning their constitutional responsibility.

But the unsung heroes in our national civic stress test are those public servants who have chosen to make a sacrifice, at considerable risk to their reputation, to work for a president they don’t necessarily agree with and in some cases outright opposed during the campaign. I’m not talking about those administration apparatchiks who are motivated by rank opportunism or ideological fervor, defending actions they would loudly denounce if they were on the outside looking in. I’m talking about those patriots who are dedicating themselves to providing a degree of strategic stability, particularly in the realm of national security. These folks may be denigrated as “the deep state” by paranoid people with temporary power who are seeking to spur internal witch hunts and deflect blame—but our government depends on people who think and act beyond partisanship.

We are adjusting to an insult to our ideal of the presidency that is even deeper than the dark late chapters of Dick Nixon, who at least had real policy and geopolitical accomplishments. But the American system is strong. It was designed to survive such a crisis of confidence. After all, one of our greatest presidents, Abraham Lincoln, was bookended by two of our worst, James Buchanan and Andrew Johnson. We’ll get through this—but only if we resolve to remember that our democracy is a common responsibility, not something we simply delegate to warring factions or a figurehead president. That’s the way to really make America great again.

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#1500872 --- 07/04/17 09:45 PM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: kyle585]
gassy one Offline
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Registered: 09/27/16
Posts: 1921
Originally Posted By: kyle585
This is one of the best articles I have ever read.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/how-to-be-patriotic-in-the-era-of-trump

Like many grandchildren of immigrants, I was brought up with a special reverence for America. Our country was not to be taken for granted—it was not like all the others.

As a child, I devoured pint-sized presidential biographies where the arc of Oval Office lives was presented as a lesson in character as much as ambition, punctuated by bits of useful wisdom. All were flawed, but taken together the presidential pantheon formed a kind of reassuring firmament over the American story.
Advertisement

But this is the first Fourth of July under President Trump, and the patriotic bunting feels a bit different this year. In less than six months, we have been forced to confront a president uniquely uninterested in uniting the nation, a reflexive divider who is quick to attack civic-minded critics while cozying up to autocrats worldwide. He is a master of bluster and marketing but you can’t graft heroism or character on his life story. Normally, the Oval Office ennobles the occupant, but Trump is governing just the way he campaigned: as a celebrity demagogue whose disregard for facts or common decency is compounded by his ignorance of policy and American history.

This is not a partisan complaint. Most Republicans in Congress will acknowledge this sad state of affairs in private, occasionally in public. What most journalists know is that some members of the administration feel the same way.

Over the course of his campaign, many of his aides privately came to the conclusion that their party’s nominee was a man whose instincts and experience were spectacularly unsuited to the office, even as they resisted a return of the Clintons. This instinct has only grown since inauguration day as many of the presidents’ men and women find themselves engaged in an absurd game of “contain the president” routinely derailed by Twitter tantrums.

And so, this Fourth of July, the challenge is to widen the aperture of our patriotism beyond the president. We are living through a stress test to the American system and we can’t afford to simply tune out or bask in the cynicism of moral relativism. Liberal democracy is not a guarantee and the alternatives have proven themselves worse in every way for fans of individual liberty.

But we can take comfort from the fact that our founders designed the Constitution with someone very much like Donald Trump in mind.

The Achilles heel of democracy was always the danger that people would fall under the sway of a demagogue with authoritarian ambitions. That’s why the founders divided power into three equal branches of government, strengthened with a series of internal and external checks and balances. Participating in the legislative and judicial branch—let alone state and local government—doesn’t get as much attention as presidential-level politics, but it is just as essential to the overall stability of our system.

In the Trump era, it’s no small irony that liberals are suddenly seeing the wisdom of federalism while civil libertarians are more broadly appreciated as defending core values. These are civic evolutions we should not forget when the next president comes to town.

The broader patchwork of checks and balances is also why the president’s obsessive attacks on the credibility of independent journalism should concern every fair-minded citizen. It’s worth remembering that the Constitution doesn’t mention political parties, but it does mention a free press. That’s because the founders recognized that journalism is an essential guarantor of liberty. Don’t take my word for it, listen to James Madison: “To the press alone, checkered as it is with abuses, the world is indebted for all the triumphs which have been gained by reason and humanity over error and oppression.” On the other side of the equation is our current president, who has repeatedly called journalists “the enemy of the American people.”

In the coming months and years, Americans are going to rely on a focused and fearless free press despite the attempts of the administration to attack and intimidate us into silence. We’re going to rely on a vibrant independent judiciary to restrain executive overreach. And we’re going to need principled members of Congress to assert their independence rather than acting as partisan apologists for the president while abandoning their constitutional responsibility.

But the unsung heroes in our national civic stress test are those public servants who have chosen to make a sacrifice, at considerable risk to their reputation, to work for a president they don’t necessarily agree with and in some cases outright opposed during the campaign. I’m not talking about those administration apparatchiks who are motivated by rank opportunism or ideological fervor, defending actions they would loudly denounce if they were on the outside looking in. I’m talking about those patriots who are dedicating themselves to providing a degree of strategic stability, particularly in the realm of national security. These folks may be denigrated as “the deep state” by paranoid people with temporary power who are seeking to spur internal witch hunts and deflect blame—but our government depends on people who think and act beyond partisanship.

We are adjusting to an insult to our ideal of the presidency that is even deeper than the dark late chapters of Dick Nixon, who at least had real policy and geopolitical accomplishments. But the American system is strong. It was designed to survive such a crisis of confidence. After all, one of our greatest presidents, Abraham Lincoln, was bookended by two of our worst, James Buchanan and Andrew Johnson. We’ll get through this—but only if we resolve to remember that our democracy is a common responsibility, not something we simply delegate to warring factions or a figurehead president. That’s the way to really make America great again.
Spoken like a true liberal!

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#1500890 --- 07/05/17 01:04 AM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: gassy one]
kyle585 Offline
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Registered: 02/18/09
Posts: 15732
Loc: Somewhere out there
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
This is one of the best articles I have ever read.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/how-to-be-patriotic-in-the-era-of-trump

Like many grandchildren of immigrants, I was brought up with a special reverence for America. Our country was not to be taken for granted—it was not like all the others.

As a child, I devoured pint-sized presidential biographies where the arc of Oval Office lives was presented as a lesson in character as much as ambition, punctuated by bits of useful wisdom. All were flawed, but taken together the presidential pantheon formed a kind of reassuring firmament over the American story.

In the coming months and years, Americans are going to rely on a focused and fearless free press despite the attempts of the administration to attack and intimidate us into silence. We’re going to rely on a vibrant independent judiciary to restrain executive overreach. And we’re going to need principled members of Congress to assert their independence rather than acting as partisan apologists for the president while abandoning their constitutional responsibility.
Spoken like a true liberal!

From one of our greatest presidents. How much better our world would be if he had lived.

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“If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people-their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties-someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal", then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal.”

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#1500933 --- 07/05/17 10:42 PM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: kyle585]
gassy one Offline
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Registered: 09/27/16
Posts: 1921
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
This is one of the best articles I have ever read.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/how-to-be-patriotic-in-the-era-of-trump

Like many grandchildren of immigrants, I was brought up with a special reverence for America. Our country was not to be taken for granted—it was not like all the others.

As a child, I devoured pint-sized presidential biographies where the arc of Oval Office lives was presented as a lesson in character as much as ambition, punctuated by bits of useful wisdom. All were flawed, but taken together the presidential pantheon formed a kind of reassuring firmament over the American story.

In the coming months and years, Americans are going to rely on a focused and fearless free press despite the attempts of the administration to attack and intimidate us into silence. We’re going to rely on a vibrant independent judiciary to restrain executive overreach. And we’re going to need principled members of Congress to assert their independence rather than acting as partisan apologists for the president while abandoning their constitutional responsibility.
Spoken like a true liberal!

From one of our greatest presidents. How much better our world would be if he had lived.

**************************************************

“If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people-their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties-someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal", then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal.”
A definition of a liberal is raise taxes as high as they can so the handouts flow back to them! Everytime something bad happens in your life look to the government to bail you out! That's a true liberal!


Edited by gassy one (07/05/17 10:44 PM)

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#1500944 --- 07/06/17 03:18 AM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: gassy one]
kyle585 Offline
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Registered: 02/18/09
Posts: 15732
Loc: Somewhere out there
Originally Posted By: gassy one
A definition of a liberal is raise taxes as high as they can so the handouts flow back to them! Everytime something bad happens in your life look to the government to bail you out! That's a true liberal!
http://hotair.com/archives/2017/07/03/republican-governors-raising-taxes/

Wait! What? Some GOP states are raising taxes

South Carolina Republicans have blocked a set of broad tax cuts as too expensive. They also overrode the GOP governor’s veto and hiked the gas tax, always easier since federal taxes and individual state taxes are baked into visible pump prices.

The federal gas tax currently is 18.4 cents per gallon. State gas taxes range from Alaska’s 12.25 cents to Pennsylvania’s — Yikes! — 58.2 cents. Drive next door to Ohio, less than half that.

Tennessee’s GOP Gov. Bill Haslam just signed his state’s first gasoline tax increase in almost 30 years.

Dramatically in Kansas, the aggressive tax cutting and even tax eliminations of Gov. Sam Brownback didn’t produce the expected economic boom. Kansas’ Supreme Court ruled state education spending was too low.

GOP lawmakers decided this summer they could not cut anymore from basic services, let alone existing taxes. They increased taxes $1.2 billion. Brownback vetoed it. Republican legislators overrode him.

The sacred GOP tax-cut doctrine may well be fading in some state laboratories of democracy. Read my lips: The same reality could soon be coming to a national capitol near you.

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#1500983 --- 07/06/17 10:12 PM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: kyle585]
gassy one Offline
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Registered: 09/27/16
Posts: 1921
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
A definition of a liberal is raise taxes as high as they can so the handouts flow back to them! Everytime something bad happens in your life look to the government to bail you out! That's a true liberal!
http://hotair.com/archives/2017/07/03/republican-governors-raising-taxes/

Wait! What? Some GOP states are raising taxes

South Carolina Republicans have blocked a set of broad tax cuts as too expensive. They also overrode the GOP governor’s veto and hiked the gas tax, always easier since federal taxes and individual state taxes are baked into visible pump prices.

The federal gas tax currently is 18.4 cents per gallon. State gas taxes range from Alaska’s 12.25 cents to Pennsylvania’s — Yikes! — 58.2 cents. Drive next door to Ohio, less than half that.

Tennessee’s GOP Gov. Bill Haslam just signed his state’s first gasoline tax increase in almost 30 years.

Dramatically in Kansas, the aggressive tax cutting and even tax eliminations of Gov. Sam Brownback didn’t produce the expected economic boom. Kansas’ Supreme Court ruled state education spending was too low.

GOP lawmakers decided this summer they could not cut anymore from basic services, let alone existing taxes. They increased taxes $1.2 billion. Brownback vetoed it. Republican legislators overrode him.

The sacred GOP tax-cut doctrine may well be fading in some state laboratories of democracy. Read my lips: The same reality could soon be coming to a national capitol near you.
Not with Andy in there! He spends it as fast as he can!

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#1500996 --- 07/07/17 02:38 AM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
A definition of a liberal is raise taxes as high as they can so the handouts flow back to them! Everytime something bad happens in your life look to the government to bail you out! That's a true liberal!
http://hotair.com/archives/2017/07/03/republican-governors-raising-taxes/

Wait! What? Some GOP states are raising taxes
Not with Andy in there! He spends it as fast as he can!
All these Republican controlled states raise taxes and you have no comment on that? Are you learning anything here? I doubt it. I am surprised you know how to read well enough to type on these forums.

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#1501005 --- 07/07/17 06:24 AM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/07/andrew-cuomo-2020-trump-215348

Andrew Cuomo Could Beat Trump … If He Can Win Over the Left First

The governor of New York suddenly looks like the kind of take-no-prisoners pol his party needs

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#1501032 --- 07/07/17 10:31 PM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/07/andrew-cuomo-2020-trump-215348

Andrew Cuomo Could Beat Trump … If He Can Win Over the Left First

The governor of New York suddenly looks like the kind of take-no-prisoners pol his party needs
Cuomo what a joke! He couldn't win NY if it weren't for NYC! He has screwed upstate NY for years with all his job promises & economic ideas! The only thing he has accomplished is fewer jobs and higher crime rates!

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#1501266 --- 07/10/17 11:48 PM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: gassy one]
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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/10/donald-trump-jr-russia-meeting-legal-danger-240370

Donald Trump Jr. is in a legal danger zone following his acknowledgment that he met during the heat of the 2016 presidential campaign with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties who offered to deliver damaging information about Hillary Clinton.

Democratic and Republican lawyers and political operatives alike say explanations about the June 2016 meeting from President Donald Trump’s oldest son are way out of step with common campaign practices when dealing with offers for opposition research.

But perhaps far more important, his statements put him potentially in legal cross hairs for violating federal criminal statutes prohibiting solicitation or acceptance of anything of value from a foreign national, as well as a conspiracy to defraud the United States.

Politically, by discussing such a sensitive topic that could prove embarrassing if revealed, Trump Jr. and the other Trump campaign officials in the room for the meeting with Russian attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya, including Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort, may have also exposed themselves to future blackmail threats, the legal experts said.

Those potential troubles deepened Monday night with a fresh New York Times report alleging that Trump Jr. was sent an email before his meeting with Veselnitskaya indicating the information she had was part of a Russian plan to boost his father in the race against Clinton.

“This is treason,” Richard Painter, a former George W. Bush White House ethics lawyer, wrote Sunday night on Twitter. “He must have known that the only way Russia would get such information was by spying.”

Painter added in another message: “In the Bush administration we could have had him in custody for questioning by now.”

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#1501273 --- 07/11/17 07:38 AM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/10/donald-trump-jr-russia-meeting-legal-danger-240370

Donald Trump Jr. is in a legal danger zone following his acknowledgment that he met during the heat of the 2016 presidential campaign with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties who offered to deliver damaging information about Hillary Clinton.

Democratic and Republican lawyers and political operatives alike say explanations about the June 2016 meeting from President Donald Trump’s oldest son are way out of step with common campaign practices when dealing with offers for opposition research.

But perhaps far more important, his statements put him potentially in legal cross hairs for violating federal criminal statutes prohibiting solicitation or acceptance of anything of value from a foreign national, as well as a conspiracy to defraud the United States.

Politically, by discussing such a sensitive topic that could prove embarrassing if revealed, Trump Jr. and the other Trump campaign officials in the room for the meeting with Russian attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya, including Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort, may have also exposed themselves to future blackmail threats, the legal experts said.

Those potential troubles deepened Monday night with a fresh New York Times report alleging that Trump Jr. was sent an email before his meeting with Veselnitskaya indicating the information she had was part of a Russian plan to boost his father in the race against Clinton.

“This is treason,” Richard Painter, a former George W. Bush White House ethics lawyer, wrote Sunday night on Twitter. “He must have known that the only way Russia would get such information was by spying.”

Painter added in another message: “In the Bush administration we could have had him in custody for questioning by now.”
OH BOY! What a joke!

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#1501277 --- 07/11/17 08:27 AM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
OH BOY! What a joke!
You used to say they had nothing. Now you say what a joke. Sounds like they are onto something but you don't like it.

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