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#1499891 --- 06/13/17 08:52 AM Are We Nearing Civil War?
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Are We Nearing Civil War?


By Patrick J. Buchanan | June 13, 2017
President Trump meets with his Cabinet at the White House on Monday, June 12, 2017. (Screen grab from C-SPAN)

President Trump may be chief of state, head of government and commander in chief, but his administration is shot through with disloyalists plotting to bring him down.

We are approaching something of a civil war where the capital city seeks the overthrow of the sovereign and its own restoration.

Thus far, it is a nonviolent struggle, though street clashes between pro- and anti-Trump forces are increasingly marked by fistfights and brawls. Police are having difficulty keeping people apart. A few have been arrested carrying concealed weapons.

That the objective of this city is to bring Trump down via a deep state-media coup is no secret. Few deny it.

Last week, fired Director of the FBI James Comey, a successor to J. Edgar Hoover, admitted under oath that he used a cutout to leak to The New York Times an Oval Office conversation with the president.

Goal: have the Times story trigger the appointment of a special prosecutor to bring down the president.

Comey wanted a special prosecutor to target Trump, despite his knowledge, from his own FBI investigation, that Trump was innocent of the pervasive charge that he colluded with the Kremlin in the hacking of the DNC.

Comey's deceit was designed to enlist the police powers of the state to bring down his president. And it worked. For the special counsel named, with broad powers to pursue Trump, is Comey's friend and predecessor at the FBI, Robert Mueller.

As Newt Gingrich said Sunday: "Look at who Mueller's starting to hire. ... (T)hese are people that ... look to me like they're ... setting up to go after Trump ... including people, by the way, who have been reprimanded for hiding from the defense information into major cases. ...

"This is going to be a witch hunt."

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Another example. According to Daily Kos, Trump planned a swift lifting of sanctions on Russia after inauguration and a summit meeting with Vladimir Putin to prevent a second Cold War.

The State Department was tasked with working out the details.

Instead, says Daniel Fried, the coordinator for sanctions policy, he received "panicky" calls of "Please, my God, can you stop this?"

Operatives at State, disloyal to the president and hostile to the Russia policy on which he had been elected, collaborated with elements in Congress to sabotage any detente. They succeeded.

"It would have been a win-win for Moscow," said Tom Malinowski of State, who boasted last week of his role in blocking a rapprochement with Russia. State employees sabotaged one of the principal policies for which Americans had voted, and they substituted their own.

Not in memory have there been so many leaks to injure a president from within his own government, and not just political leaks, but leaks of confidential, classified and secret documents. The leaks are coming out of the supposedly secure investigative and intelligence agencies of the U.S. government.

The media, the beneficiaries of these leaks, are giving cover to those breaking the law. The real criminal "collusion" in Washington is between Big Media and the deep state, colluding to destroy a president they detest and to sink the policies they oppose.

Yet another example is the unfolding "unmasking" scandal.

While all the evidence is not yet in, it appears an abnormal number of conversations between Trump associates and Russians were intercepted by U.S. intelligence agencies.

On orders higher up, the conversations were transcribed, and, contrary to law, the names of Trump associates unmasked.

Then those transcripts, with names revealed, were spread to all 16 agencies of the intel community at the direction of Susan Rice, and with the possible knowledge of Barack Obama, assuring some would be leaked after Trump became president.

The leak of Gen. Michael Flynn's conversation with the Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, after Obama imposed sanctions on Russia for the hacking of the DNC, may have been a product of the unmasking operation. The media hit on Flynn cost him the National Security Council post.

Trump has had many accomplishments since his election. Yet his enemies in the media and their deep state allies have often made a purgatory of his presidency.

What he and his White House need to understand is that this is not going to end, that this is a fight to the finish, that his enemies will not relent until they see him impeached or resigning in disgrace.

To prevail, Trump will have to campaign across this country and wage guerrilla war in this capital, using the legal and political weapons at his disposal to ferret out the enemies within his own government.

Not only is this battle essential, if Trump hopes to realize his agenda, it is winnable. For the people sense that the Beltway elites are cynically engaged in preserving their own privileges, positions and power.

If the president cannot rewrite Obamacare or achieve tax reform, he should not go around the country in 2018 wailing about Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Schumer. They are not the real adversaries. They are but interchangeable parts.

He should campaign against the real enemies of America First by promising to purge the deep state and flog its media collaborators.

Time to burn down the Bastille.

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#1499903 --- 06/13/17 04:22 PM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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I have been telling I am afraid for American democracy and you laugh at me. Never have we had a president that so admired foreign dictators and said NATO is obsolete.

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#1499904 --- 06/13/17 04:24 PM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Trump has had many accomplishments since his election.
Anybody who believes that is totally brain dead.

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#1499910 --- 06/13/17 05:04 PM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
I have been telling I am afraid for American democracy and you laugh at me. Never have we had a president that so admired foreign dictators and said NATO is obsolete.


I know, it was really scary when he praised the Castros. And when he told Russia to wait till after the election when he would have more flexability. Oh wait that was Obama, never-mind
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#1499911 --- 06/13/17 05:44 PM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Trump has had many accomplishments since his election.
Anybody who believes that is totally brain dead.




HERE IT IS=> Complete List of President Trump’s Major Accomplishments in First 100 Days


HERE IT IS=> Complete List of President Trump’s Major Accomplishments in First 100 Days

Jim Hoft Apr 27th, 2017 10:59 pm 627 Comments

Guest post by Joe Hoft

Presidential candidate Donald Trump held his final campaign rally at 1am on election day November 8th, 2016 in Ann Arbor, Michigan.

At the end of his final speech candidate Trump said this –

Just imagine what our country could accomplish if we started working together as one people, under one God, saluting one American flag. I’m asking you to dream big because with your vote we are just hours away from the change you’ve been waiting for your entire life. So to every parent who dreams for their child and to every child who dreams for their future I say these words to you tonight. I am with you. I will fight for you and I will win for you. I promise.

To all Americans tonight in all of our cities and in all of our towns, I pledge to you one more time. Together we will make American wealthy again. We will make America strong again. We will make America safe again and we will make America great again!



President Trump started off as aggressive as any President ever in working for the American people as he promised. Now as President Trump’s first 100 days in office come to an end, here is a complete list of his accomplishments and his resulting impact on the economy and world affairs in this very short period of time:

The US Stock Markets are at record highs and millions of Americans are benefitting in their retirement savings accounts.

* The DOW daily closing stock market average rose more than 15% since the election on November 8th. (On November 9th the DOW closed at 18,332 – on March 1st the DOW closed at 21,115).
* Since the Inauguration on January 20th the DOW rose 6.5%. (It was at 19,827 at January 20th and reached 21,115 on March 1st.)
* The DOW took just 66 days to climb from 19,000 to above 21,000, the fastest 2,000 point run ever. The DOW closed above 19,000 for the first time on November 22nd and closed above 21,000 on March 1st.
* The DOW closed above 20,000 on January 25th and the March 1st rally matched the fastest-ever 1,000 point increase in the DOW at 24 days.
* The US Stock Market gained $2 trillion in wealth since Trump was elected!
* The S&P 500 broke $20 Trillion for the first time in its history.
* In the history of the DOW, going back to January 1901, the DOW record for most continuous closing high trading days was set in January of 1987 when Ronald Reagan was President. The DOW set closing highs an amazing 12 times in a row that month. On February 28th President Trump matched President Reagan when the DOW reached a new high for its 12th day in a row!

President Trump decreased the US Debt in his first 100 days by $100 Billion. (President Obama increased the US debt in his first 100 days by more than $560 Billion.)

The US Manufacturing Index soared to a 33 year high in this period which were the best numbers since 1983 under President Reagan.

President Trump added 298,000 jobs in his first month alone (after President Obama said jobs were not coming back!).

Housing sales are red-hot. In 2011, houses for sale were on the market an average 84 days. This year, it’s just 45 days.

Illegal immigration is down 67% since President Trump’s Inauguration.

NATO announced Allied spending is up $10 Billion because of President Trump.

After being nominated by President Trump, Constitutionalist Judge Neil Gorsuch was confirmed and sworn in as Supreme Court Justice in early April.

The President has signed 66 executive orders, memoranda and proclamations as of April 19th, including:

* Notifying Congress of a strike on Syria after it was reported that the country used gas on its citizens.
* Dismantling Obama’s climate change initiatives.
* Travel bans for individuals from a select number of countries embroiled in terrorist atrocities.
* Enforcing regulatory reform.
* Protecting Law enforcement.
* Mandating for every new regulation to eliminate two.
* Defeating ISIS.
* Rebuilding the military.
* Building a border wall.
* Cutting funding for sanctuary cities.
* Approving pipelines.
* Reducing regulations on manufacturers.
* Placing a hiring freeze on federal employees.
* Exiting the US from the TPP.


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/...first-100-days/


Kyle, its possible you're brain dead!

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#1499912 --- 06/13/17 06:04 PM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
The President has signed 66 executive orders, memoranda and proclamations as of April 19th, including:
* Defeating ISIS.
Most executive orders are meaningless. Have we defeated ISIS? Not at all.

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#1499913 --- 06/13/17 06:06 PM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
* Building a border wall.
Have we build a border wall? No and it is very likely never to happen.

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#1499914 --- 06/13/17 06:08 PM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
* Dismantling Obama’s climate change initiatives.
And the whole world is mad at us for leaving the Paris accords.

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#1499915 --- 06/13/17 06:09 PM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
* Travel bans for individuals from a select number of countries embroiled in terrorist atrocities.
not in effect because numerous courts have shot it down.

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#1499916 --- 06/13/17 06:13 PM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
NATO announced Allied spending is up $10 Billion because of President Trump.

http://www.defenseone.com/politics/2017/04/its-far-too-early-see-trump-effect-nato-spending/136968/

The U.S. president's rhetoric may have allies talking about their growing defense spending, but it won’t affect most budget proposals for months.

To hear President Donald Trump tell it, his tough talk has already persuaded NATO allies to spend more on defense. But while it’s true that many of the countries are upping their military funding, almost all of those increases were proposed in budgets created before his election.

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#1499920 --- 06/13/17 07:18 PM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Trump has had many accomplishments since his election.
Anybody who believes that is totally brain dead.


See Kyle, you're just a sore!

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#1499925 --- 06/13/17 09:25 PM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Trump has had many accomplishments since his election.
Anybody who believes that is totally brain dead.


See Kyle, you're just a sore!
That explains your way of thinking then Kyle! Such a sore loser!

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#1499930 --- 06/14/17 12:34 AM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Trump has had many accomplishments since his election.
Anybody who believes that is totally brain dead.


See Kyle, you're just a sore!
That explains your way of thinking then Kyle! Such a sore loser!
Ya. That explains everything. Eyes rolling.

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#1499933 --- 06/14/17 12:45 AM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
* Defeating ISIS.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-gives-mattis-authority-to-set-troop-levels-in-afghanistan/

The White House has given Defense Secretary Jim Mattis the authority to set the troop levels in Afghanistan, two months after being given similar authority in Iraq and Syria, a U.S. official confirmed to CBS News' David Martin.

The move gives Mattis the ability to send more troops in, although it's unclear if Mattis intends to do so.

Mattis told Congress on Tuesday that the U.S. is "not winning in Afghanistan right now," and the enemy is surging.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/commentary-why-are-we-still-in-afghanistan/

To a generation of younger Americans, waging the War in Afghanistan must seem like one of the things our government does as a matter of course, like collecting taxes or distributing Social Security payments. The vast majority of students graduating from high school this spring have no memory of a time when we weren't fighting in that far away country. And soon enough, some number of them will likely arrive there to continue the campaign.
Donald Trump, in one of his occasional peacenik fits on the campaign trail, expressed enthusiasm for ending the war. Now that he's in office, however, he's mulling another surge of troops to support the beleaguered and hopelessly corrupt government we helped install in Kabul.

The reasons why we should risk more American lives and spend more taxpayer money on such an adventure are, at best, unclear. The arguments for why we shouldn't, on the other hand, are quite obvious.

The first argument is that nobody knows what victory in Afghanistan would even look like. We originally invaded the country in order to remove the Taliban government, which at the time controlled most of the country and provided a safe haven to Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda.

Bin Laden is thankfully dead, but Al-Qaeda has moved on to establish safe havens elsewhere, and the Taliban now controls more territory in Afghanistan than at any point before the invasion. ISIS is getting in on the action, too, having claimed a stretch of land along the porous Pakistani border.

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#1499938 --- 06/14/17 08:56 AM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
* Defeating ISIS.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-gives-mattis-authority-to-set-troop-levels-in-afghanistan/

The White House has given Defense Secretary Jim Mattis the authority to set the troop levels in Afghanistan, two months after being given similar authority in Iraq and Syria, a U.S. official confirmed to CBS News' David Martin.

The move gives Mattis the ability to send more troops in, although it's unclear if Mattis intends to do so.

Mattis told Congress on Tuesday that the U.S. is "not winning in Afghanistan right now," and the enemy is surging.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/commentary-why-are-we-still-in-afghanistan/

To a generation of younger Americans, waging the War in Afghanistan must seem like one of the things our government does as a matter of course, like collecting taxes or distributing Social Security payments. The vast majority of students graduating from high school this spring have no memory of a time when we weren't fighting in that far away country. And soon enough, some number of them will likely arrive there to continue the campaign.
Donald Trump, in one of his occasional peacenik fits on the campaign trail, expressed enthusiasm for ending the war. Now that he's in office, however, he's mulling another surge of troops to support the beleaguered and hopelessly corrupt government we helped install in Kabul.

The reasons why we should risk more American lives and spend more taxpayer money on such an adventure are, at best, unclear. The arguments for why we shouldn't, on the other hand, are quite obvious.

The first argument is that nobody knows what victory in Afghanistan would even look like. We originally invaded the country in order to remove the Taliban government, which at the time controlled most of the country and provided a safe haven to Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda.

Bin Laden is thankfully dead, but Al-Qaeda has moved on to establish safe havens elsewhere, and the Taliban now controls more territory in Afghanistan than at any point before the invasion. ISIS is getting in on the action, too, having claimed a stretch of land along the porous Pakistani border.
You can thank your buddy Obama for the proliferation of ISIS & the Taliban!

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#1499945 --- 06/14/17 09:19 AM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: gassy one]
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You can thank your buddy Obama for the proliferation of ISIS & the Taliban!
Really? They started under Bush. Trump plans to finish them off with nuclear bombs turning the middle east into a mountain of glass.

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#1499982 --- 06/14/17 11:08 PM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
You can thank your buddy Obama for the proliferation of ISIS & the Taliban!
Really? They started under Bush. Trump plans to finish them off with nuclear bombs turning the middle east into a mountain of glass.
It may have started under Bush but Obama had 8 years to nip it in the bud but basicly did nothing but stand around and watch it grow out of control!

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#1499986 --- 06/15/17 02:49 AM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
It may have started under Bush but Obama had 8 years to nip it in the bud but basicly did nothing but stand around and watch it grow out of control!
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/08/to-crush-isis-will-trump-send-u-s-troops-into-syria/

President-elect Donald Trump has repeatedly promised to deliver a swift victory over the Islamic State, and has long ridiculed as weak and halfhearted the Obama administration’s effort against the terror group.

Of all of Trump’s extravagant and vague campaign rhetoric, from doubling economic growth to resuscitating the coal industry to making Mexico pay for a border wall, his promise to quickly crush the Islamic State could be the biggest stretch of all.

Current and former military officers say Trump could make good on his promises of “quickly” defeating the Islamic State only if he sent in an overwhelming force of U.S. ground troops, a politically risky option that could plunge the United States into another fraught, open-ended occupation in the Middle East.

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#1500011 --- 06/15/17 09:26 AM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
It may have started under Bush but Obama had 8 years to nip it in the bud but basicly did nothing but stand around and watch it grow out of control!
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/08/to-crush-isis-will-trump-send-u-s-troops-into-syria/

President-elect Donald Trump has repeatedly promised to deliver a swift victory over the Islamic State, and has long ridiculed as weak and halfhearted the Obama administration’s effort against the terror group.

Of all of Trump’s extravagant and vague campaign rhetoric, from doubling economic growth to resuscitating the coal industry to making Mexico pay for a border wall, his promise to quickly crush the Islamic State could be the biggest stretch of all.

Current and former military officers say Trump could make good on his promises of “quickly” defeating the Islamic State only if he sent in an overwhelming force of U.S. ground troops, a politically risky option that could plunge the United States into another fraught, open-ended occupation in the Middle East.
So you agree Obama did basicly nothing!

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#1500013 --- 06/15/17 10:32 AM Re: Are We Nearing Civil War? [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
It may have started under Bush but Obama had 8 years to nip it in the bud but basicly did nothing but stand around and watch it grow out of control!
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/08/to-crush-isis-will-trump-send-u-s-troops-into-syria/

President-elect Donald Trump has repeatedly promised to deliver a swift victory over the Islamic State, and has long ridiculed as weak and halfhearted the Obama administration’s effort against the terror group.

Of all of Trump’s extravagant and vague campaign rhetoric, from doubling economic growth to resuscitating the coal industry to making Mexico pay for a border wall, his promise to quickly crush the Islamic State could be the biggest stretch of all.

Current and former military officers say Trump could make good on his promises of “quickly” defeating the Islamic State only if he sent in an overwhelming force of U.S. ground troops, a politically risky option that could plunge the United States into another fraught, open-ended occupation in the Middle East.
So you agree Obama did basicly nothing!
Unless you want to send 100,000 troops into Syria or start dropping nuclear bombs I don't what else you can do. Do you?

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