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#1510760 --- 12/13/17 05:49 AM Re: "the mood is ugly" [Re: kyle585]
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As of last night, everything Trump supports or endorses, goes down in embarrassing flame, nominated Jeff Session for Attorney General , thus vacating a Senate seat in Alabama, endorses Luther Strange who is defeated and later on , endorses a controversial Republican who he initially despised. Now this morning he tweeted that he knew that Roy Moore could not win anyhow. Tell us Donald, why did you waste taxpayer's money by going down to stomp for him?

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#1510763 --- 12/13/17 06:11 AM Re: "the mood is ugly" [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
As of last night, everything Trump supports or endorses, goes down in embarrassing flame, nominated Jeff Session for Attorney General , thus vacating a Senate seat in Alabama, endorses Luther Strange who is defeated and later on , endorses a controversial Republican who he initially despised. Now this morning he tweeted that he knew that Roy Moore could not win anyhow. Tell us Donald, why did you waste taxpayer's money on going down to stomp for him?
Trump complained so much about Sessions that if Sessions had any sense of self-worth he would of quit. Trump thinks everything is all about him. I have never seen such a conceited self-centered person in my life.
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#1510764 --- 12/13/17 06:17 AM Re: "the mood is ugly" [Re: kyle585]
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Absolutely Sir, now the million dollar question, how much degradation and harm to the GOP before they admit this man is destroying their party?

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#1510781 --- 12/13/17 11:50 AM Re: "the mood is ugly" [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo

Expecting the worst, hoping for the best.
America may be on the road to recovery!

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/13/alabama-senate-trump-moore-jones-293755

Doug Jones didn’t just defeat Roy Moore in Alabama’s Senate race on Tuesday night — he administered the most crushing and embarrassing political blow of President Donald Trump’s young presidency.

Jones’ win meant that Trump, who had endorsed Luther Strange in the Republican primary before backing Moore in the general election, threw his weight behind the losing candidate not once, but twice, in the Alabama race.

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#1510784 --- 12/13/17 12:04 PM Re: "the mood is ugly" [Re: Timbo]
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/politics/senate-2018-map/index.html

Doug Jones' stunning victory in Alabama on Tuesday night sent a very clear signal heading into the 2018 election: No Republican Senate seat is safe.

What that means is this: Democrats now have a reason to believe that they could do something that was considered unthinkable as recently as the start of this week: Retake control of the Senate next November.
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#1510806 --- 12/13/17 04:54 PM Re: "the mood is ugly" [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/politics/inside-white-house-alabama-blame/index.html

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, Trump's onetime chief strategist Steve Bannon, and the White House's own fledgling political office all appeared due for recrimination by the President and his allies.

Even as blame was being laid, however, Republicans outside the White House acknowledged that Trump's own political toxicity and his insistence on forging his own path would remain stumbling blocks as the GOP works to retain control of Congress in next year's elections.

"This is the worst political operation in my lifetime in a White House, Republican or Democrat," said one Republican close to the White House. "It's just a rudderless ship with no direction and no captain."

"The President is ill-served because there's nobody of substance or any leadership that can help him with these issues," the Republican said.

Of course, those advisers are only effective if the President actually listens to them.
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#1510865 --- 12/14/17 01:42 PM Re: Draining the swamp [Re: kyle585]
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Trump’s bizarre choice to oversee chemical safety laws withdraws
12/14/17 09:20 AM—UPDATED 12/14/17 09:40 AM
By Steve Benen


If we held a contest to find the most offensive Donald Trump nominee for any post, Michael Dourson would be a very strong contender.

The Republican president decided over the summer that Dourson should lead the Environmental Protection Agency’s office of chemical safety, which was outlandish, even by Trump World standards. Dourson has spent much of his career not only accepting money from the chemical industry, but also helping chemical companies fight against chemical safety regulations.

Making matters worse, emails recently came to public light showing Dourson maintaining correspondence with chemical industry officials – even after Trump nominated him for the EPA post in which he’d help oversee toxic chemical regulation. Released emails detailed “an unusually close relationship with the American Chemistry Council and with individual companies whose products are scheduled for priority review” by the EPA.

Yesterday, as the New York Times reported, Dourson withdrew from consideration, ending this fiasco.

In recent weeks, two Republican senators came forward to say they would not support him.

Senator Thomas R. Carper, Democrat of Delaware and a member of the Environment and Public Works Committee, had pushed his colleagues to reject Mr. Dourson. He said Wednesday that his objections were not partisan.

“I sincerely believe he is the wrong person to hold this important position, and it’s become clear that, even with a Republican majority in the Senate, he could not be confirmed,” Mr. Carper said in a statement. “Dr. Dourson, an individual who has spent most of his career promoting less protective chemical safety standards, had no business overseeing our nation’s chemical safety laws.”

The two GOP opponents of Dourson’s nomination were Sens. Richard Burr and Thom Tillis, both of North Carolina.

These developments appear to be a victory for common sense, but I’m left with a couple of questions. For example, if Burr and Tillis hadn’t balked, exactly how many Senate Republicans were prepared to confirm Dourson for this EPA post?


And second, can someone in the Trump White House explain how and why Dourson was nominated for this position in the first place?

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#1510882 --- 12/15/17 02:58 AM Re: Draining the swamp [Re: Formermac]
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This is an amazing comment by George Will.

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President Trump is now the nation’s worst president. At least according to Washington Post columnist George Will.

Will, a known conservative pundit and an outspoken Trump critic, tore into the president in an op-ed Thursday, arguing that Trump’s support of Alabama GOP Senate candidate and accused child molester Roy Moore disqualifies him from public office.

“He is an anti-constitutional recidivist, twice removed from Alabama’s highest court for his theocratic insistence that his religious convictions take precedence over U.S. Supreme Court decisions, so he could not have sincerely sworn to ‘support and defend the Constitution’ and to ‘bear true faith and allegiance to the same,'” Will wrote about Moore.

“After the president’s full-throated support of the grotesque, he should be icily shunned by all but his diehard collaborators,” Will wrote.

Will went on to argue that Trump’s decision to back Moore makes him officially the “nation’s worst president.”

“By joining Stephen K. Bannon’s buffoonery on Moore’s behalf, the 45th president planted an exclamation point punctuating a year of hitherto unplumbed presidential depths,” he wrote. “He completed his remarkably swift — it has taken less than 11 months — rescue of the 17th, Andrew Johnson, from the ignominy of ranking as the nation’s worst president.”
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#1510889 --- 12/15/17 04:11 AM Re: Draining the swamp [Re: kyle585]
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Idiot Junior.

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Chris Hayes&#8207;Verified account @chrislhayes
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Chris Hayes Retweeted Donald Trump Jr.

He's....not Obama's FCC chairman. Your father made him chair.

Chris Hayes added,
Donald Trump Jr.
Verified account @DonaldJTrumpJr
I would pay good money to see all those people complaining about Obama’s FCC chairman voting to repeal #NetNeutality actually explain it in detail. I’d also bet most hadn’t heard of it before this week. #outrage
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#1510891 --- 12/15/17 04:38 AM Re: Draining the swamp [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/rep-schiff-putin-playing-trump-like-a-fiddle-1116979779746

Rep. Schiff: Putin playing Trump like a fiddle

The Washington Post has reports on how President Trump is willfully ignoring Russia's attack on our democracy.
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#1511067 --- 12/17/17 01:15 PM Re: Draining the swamp [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/...stianity-216068

This Evangelical Leader Denounced Trump. Then the Death Threats Started.

Jen Hatmaker is one of the most popular religious figures in America—and she is paying a steep price for speaking out for what she believes.

By TIFFANY STANLEY December 17, 2017

Last fall, Jen Hatmaker, a popular evangelical author and speaker, started getting death threats. Readers mailed back her books to her home address, but not before some burned the pages or tore them into shreds. LifeWay Christian Stores, the behemoth retailer of the Southern Baptist Convention, pulled her titles off the shelves. Hatmaker was devastated. Up until that point, she had been a wildly influential and welcome presence in the evangelical world, a Christian author whose writings made the New York Times best-seller list and whose home renovation got its own HGTV series. But then 2016 happened, and, well, of course everything changed.

During the campaign, as other white evangelicals coalesced around the Republican nominee, Hatmaker effectively joined the coterie of “Never Trump” evangelicals, telling her more than half a million Facebook followers that Donald Trump made her “sad and horrified and despondent.” After the “Access Hollywood” tape leaked and prominent evangelical men came to Trump’s defense, she tweeted: “We will not forget. Nor will we forget the Christian leaders that betrayed their sisters in Christ for power.”

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#1511083 --- 12/18/17 01:28 AM Re: Draining the swamp [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-r...ce-2008-n830436

Dec 17 2017, 9:00 am ET

Democrats hold biggest lead in congressional preference since 2008

by Mark Murray

WASHINGTON — Fresh off their victory in Alabama’s special Senate election, Democrats now enjoy their largest advantage in congressional preference in nine years, according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll, signaling a dangerous political environment for Republicans entering next year’s midterm elections.

Fifty percent of registered voters say they prefer a Democratic-controlled Congress, versus 39 percent who want Republicans in charge.

The last time Democrats both held a double-digit lead and hit 50 percent on this question in the NBC/WSJ poll was September 2008, right before the party won the White House and picked up a substantial number of House and Senate seats.
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#1511184 --- 12/19/17 05:38 AM Re: Draining the swamp [Re: kyle585]
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Former Intelligence Chief James Clapper: Putin Is Handling Trump Like A Russian ‘Asset’
“We have to remember Putin’s background. He’s a KGB officer.”

By Ed Mazza

Vladimir Putin is cultivating Donald Trump as if the U.S. president is a Russian asset, according to former intelligence chief James Clapper.

“[Putin] knows how to handle an asset, and that’s what he’s doing with the president,” Clapper said Monday on CNN.

Clapper, who served as director of national intelligence under President Barack Obama, called the Russian president a “great case officer.”

“You’re saying that Russia is handling President Trump as an asset?” CNN’s Jim Sciutto asked.

“That seems to be... that’s the appearance to me,” replied Clapper.

Later in the conversation, Sciutto circled back to the “asset” comments.

“I’m saying this figuratively,” Clapper clarified, adding:

“We have to remember Putin’s background. He’s a KGB officer. That’s what they do. They recruit assets, and I think some of that experience and instincts of Putin is coming to play here in his managing a pretty important account for him, if I could use that term, with our president.”

Clapper has been highly critical of Trump, calling a campaign-style rally the president held in Phoenix over the summer “scary and disturbing.”

“I worry about, frankly, the access to nuclear codes,” he said in August. “In a fit of pique, if he decides to do something about Kim Jong Un, there’s actually very little to stop him.”


Clapper had previously served under President George W. Bush as undersecretary of defense for intelligence.

Obama appointed him as director of national intelligence, a Cabinet-level position, in 2010 over the objection of some lawmakers who wanted a civilian in the role. At the time, Obama praised Clapper’s “willingness to tell leaders what we need to know even if it’s not what we want to hear.”

Clapper was accused of lying to Congress in 2013 about the scope of the Obama administration’s surveillance of Americans, which was later exposed in the Edward Snowden leaks.
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#1511186 --- 12/19/17 05:49 AM Re: Draining the swamp [Re: kyle585]
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If you watched the national Security speech yesterday, it was almost surreal, Trump talked of global threats but navigated around any mention of Russia being an actual and present danger to our very democracy. How dumb must anyone be to not comprehend the hypocrisy toward the American people and the fear Trump has toward Mr. Putin who can treat our president like a female dog while getting away with it?

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#1511187 --- 12/19/17 06:04 AM Re: Draining the swamp [Re: kyle585]
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Your article in the debate thread is so funny, I'll leave it intact but we are slowly realizing the karma and paybacks Trump is receiving. During his campaign, nothing was left on the table in his attempts to embarrass his opponents in every conceivable manner, well guess who is now getting the last laugh as he holds the world stage and makes a mockery of the highest position in the world?


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#1511189 --- 12/19/17 06:30 AM Re: Draining the swamp [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Your article in the debate thread is so funny, I'll leave it intact but we are slowly realizing the karma and paybacks Trump is receiving. During his campaign, nothing was left on the table in his attempts to embarrass his opponents in every conceivable manner, well guess who is now getting the last laugh as he holds the world stage and makes a mockery of the highest position in the world?


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Its his tiny hands. Can't get a good grip with one only
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#1511222 --- 12/19/17 01:39 PM Re: Draining the swamp [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Its his tiny hands. Can't get a good grip with one only
grin



Now, THIS is how it's done.

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#1511225 --- 12/19/17 01:56 PM Re: Draining the swamp [Re: Timbo]
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LOL. Love it.
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#1511441 --- 12/22/17 06:55 AM Re: Draining the swamp [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/12/22/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-cold-war-216157

Trump, Putin and the New Cold War

The conflict is back. But this time, only one side is fighting.

By SUSAN B. GLASSER December 22, 2017
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#1511707 --- 12/31/17 02:50 PM Re: Draining the swamp [Re: kyle585]
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A special note to the Trump family this #NewYearsEve2017, know that Robert Mueller doesn’t sleep, he waits.
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