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#1498337 --- 05/04/17 09:00 AM Clintons are the cockroaches of American politics
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“Losers go away, but the Clintons are the cockroaches of American politics” – Daniel Greenfield

Hillary’s Defeat Tour Will Never End
It’s the fault of the FBI, cell phones, Colin Powell and misogyny.
May 4, 2017
Daniel Greenfield



Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is a New York writer focusing on radical Islam.

It’s May. The flowers are blooming. Young couples stroll through the park holding hands. And Hillary Clinton continues to tour the country explaining that she would have won if only it hadn’t been for the vast FBI-Russian-Misogynist conspiracy that shamelessly robbed her of an inevitable victory.

It’s not a campaign. It’s an anti-campaign. In our political tradition, losers go away. But the Clintons are the cockroaches of American politics. Getting nuked 306 to 232 won’t get rid of them. Instead they crawl out of the rubble, greedy antennas twitching, to cash in on their latest disaster.


http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/266600/hillarys-defeat-tour-will-never-end-daniel-greenfield

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#1498515 --- 05/09/17 10:19 AM Re: Clintons are the cockroaches of American politics [Re: ThomasDecker]
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#1498516 --- 05/09/17 10:25 AM Re: Clintons are the cockroaches of American politics [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Brian Thomas reports former first daughter, Chelea Clinton is receiving plenty of attention from the media to promote her children’s book, “She Persisted,” and there’s been talk that she may run for office.

According to a recent survey, however, Americans aren’t thrilled by the idea.

What does the survey say? According to a Morning Consult nation-wide poll taken at the end of April, only 27 percent of registered voters say they’d like Chelsea to run for political office.

Ouch.

From Morning Consult:

In the survey, conducted after the former first daughter appeared on the covers of Elle Magazine and Variety and sat down for a “CBS This Morning” interview to promote her upcoming children’s book, titled “She Persisted,” 48 percent of registered voters said they would not like to see her run for political office one day, while 27 percent said they would. A quarter of voters said they didn’t know or had no opinion.

Where’s this coming from? When there’s clearly a lack of interest in Chelsea running, where are these rumors coming from?

They’re not coming from Chelsea, who hasn’t indicated any intent to run.

As is so often the case, liberal media is to blame.



USSA: NEW poll: Americans Don’t Want Chelsea Clinton to Run for Office

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The left has been badgering Chelsea for some time, asking if she plans to run for office. The assumption is that Americans want to know. They don’t. Only a minority in the far left wants to know.

An overwhelming majority of Americans either don’t want her to run, or aren’t interested.

Daily Caller reports:

Clinton has repeatedly denied that she intends to run for office, yet journalists continue to ask whether she will. “I’m constantly surprised by the stories of me running for fill in the blank: Congress, Senate, City Council, the presidency,” Clinton told Variety in March. “I really find this all rather hysterical because I’ve been asked this question a lot throughout my life and the answer has never changed.”

When Chelsea herself is confused by the speculation, considering she has no interest in campaigning, we know this annoying inquiry is just the wild fantasy of Clinton obsessed reporters who can’t take no for an answer.

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#1498519 --- 05/09/17 01:26 PM Re: Clintons are the cockroaches of American politics [Re: ThomasDecker]
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No one will ever top Trump in the cockroach category.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/09/politics/trump-tweets-sally-yates/index.html

Between 6:41 p.m. and 6:50 p.m. ET Monday night, President Donald Trump sent four tweets focused on the Senate subcommittee hearing on Russia's meddling into the 2016 election that featured testimony from former acting Attorney General Sally Yates and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper.

The four-tweet barrage shows just how closely Trump is monitoring the ongoing congressional investigation into ties between members of his 2016 presidential campaign and Russian intelligence officials. The quartet of tweets is also a window into how Trump hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. He creates his own reality for himself and his followers.

Let's break the tweets down one by one -- in the order that they were sent.

Tweet #1, 6:41 p.m.

"Director Clapper reiterated what everybody, including the fake media already knows- there is 'no evidence' of collusion w/ Russia and Trump."

This is not entirely accurate. What Clapper said was not that he could definitively rule out collusion between elements of the Trump campaign and the Russians but rather that he was unaware of evidence suggesting there was any. In fact, Clapper noted that he had been unaware of the FBI investigation into the Russia ties with the Trump campaign -- driving home the point that he wasn't privy to every piece of information.

Trump is, broadly speaking, right that there is "no evidence" that has been released publicly of collusion between anyone on his campaign and the Russians. But that's not what Clapper said on Monday.

Tweet #2, 6:43 p.m.

"Sally Yates made the fake media extremely unhappy today --- she said nothing but old news!"

This one is way off the mark. It is "old news" that Yates met with White House Counsel Don McGahn on January 26 to discuss Flynn's problem. But what's new is that she told McGahn on that day -- and in a follow-up meeting the next day -- that not only was Flynn lying to members of the presidential transition about his contacts with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak but also that she had reason to believe he had been compromised by the Russians and was a potential blackmail target. Yates also offered McGahn the chance to go through the evidence the Justice Department had that led them to that conclusion. (It's not clear if he actually did so.)

Tweet #3, 6:46 p.m.

"The Russia-Trump collusion story is a total hoax, when will this taxpayer funded charade end?"

Trump is, again, conflating two things. The ongoing investigations -- in Congress and by the FBI -- are aimed at understanding the extent to which (and how) Russia meddled in the US election. Whether or not the Trump campaign colluded with Russia is certainly a possible strand in that investigation but it is not the entire investigation or even necessarily the center of it.

As for the idea of these investigations as a "taxpayer-funded charade," consider this: A foreign power attempted to influence the outcome of a presidential election in the United States and, according to many in the national security world, will try to do so again (and again). Looking into how they did it -- and trying to prevent it from happening again -- doesn't feel like a "charade" to me.

Trump tweet #4, 6:50 p.m.

"Biggest story today between Clapper & Yates is on surveillance. Why doesn't the media report on this? #FakeNews!"

Reasonable people can disagree about what the "biggest" story was coming out of the Yates/Clapper hearing. But, the idea that the surveillance story -- that the US government monitors foreign actors and could have swept up a conversation that person had with a Trump campaign official -- is a bigger deal than Russia having compromising information about the national security adviser doesn't pass the smell test for me.
I think it's absolutely worth trying to get to the bottom of how Yates came to know what she knew about Flynn and Russia and how that information got to The Washington Post. But, again, is that more important than finding out the depth of Russia's meddling in our presidential election and the extent of their contacts with Flynn and others within Trump's orbit? I think not.

The common strain through all four tweets is, of course, the "fake news" media who Trump accuses of shaping the story to fit its own agenda rather than the facts.

But, the media had nothing to do with what we learned Monday: That the acting attorney general was concerned enough about information she learned regarding the national security adviser that she sought out the White House counsel in hopes the President would "take action" (Yates' words) on the matter.

Those are the facts. If Trump and his administration believe that accounting to be either untrue or only a partial telling of what actually happened, they owe it to taxpayers to come forward and say why -- and how. Simply tweeting out a selective reading of a hearing and bashing the media doesn't help us figure out what exactly happened here and how we can prevent it from happening again.

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#1498537 --- 05/09/17 04:58 PM Re: Clintons are the cockroaches of American politics [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
No one will ever top Trump in the cockroach category.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/09/politics/trump-tweets-sally-yates/index.html

Between 6:41 p.m. and 6:50 p.m. ET Monday night, President Donald Trump sent four tweets focused on the Senate subcommittee hearing on Russia's meddling into the 2016 election that featured testimony from former acting Attorney General Sally Yates and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper.

The four-tweet barrage shows just how closely Trump is monitoring the ongoing congressional investigation into ties between members of his 2016 presidential campaign and Russian intelligence officials. The quartet of tweets is also a window into how Trump hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. He creates his own reality for himself and his followers.

Let's break the tweets down one by one -- in the order that they were sent.

Tweet #1, 6:41 p.m.

"Director Clapper reiterated what everybody, including the fake media already knows- there is 'no evidence' of collusion w/ Russia and Trump."

This is not entirely accurate. What Clapper said was not that he could definitively rule out collusion between elements of the Trump campaign and the Russians but rather that he was unaware of evidence suggesting there was any. In fact, Clapper noted that he had been unaware of the FBI investigation into the Russia ties with the Trump campaign -- driving home the point that he wasn't privy to every piece of information.

Trump is, broadly speaking, right that there is "no evidence" that has been released publicly of collusion between anyone on his campaign and the Russians. But that's not what Clapper said on Monday.

Tweet #2, 6:43 p.m.

"Sally Yates made the fake media extremely unhappy today --- she said nothing but old news!"

This one is way off the mark. It is "old news" that Yates met with White House Counsel Don McGahn on January 26 to discuss Flynn's problem. But what's new is that she told McGahn on that day -- and in a follow-up meeting the next day -- that not only was Flynn lying to members of the presidential transition about his contacts with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak but also that she had reason to believe he had been compromised by the Russians and was a potential blackmail target. Yates also offered McGahn the chance to go through the evidence the Justice Department had that led them to that conclusion. (It's not clear if he actually did so.)

Tweet #3, 6:46 p.m.

"The Russia-Trump collusion story is a total hoax, when will this taxpayer funded charade end?"

Trump is, again, conflating two things. The ongoing investigations -- in Congress and by the FBI -- are aimed at understanding the extent to which (and how) Russia meddled in the US election. Whether or not the Trump campaign colluded with Russia is certainly a possible strand in that investigation but it is not the entire investigation or even necessarily the center of it.

As for the idea of these investigations as a "taxpayer-funded charade," consider this: A foreign power attempted to influence the outcome of a presidential election in the United States and, according to many in the national security world, will try to do so again (and again). Looking into how they did it -- and trying to prevent it from happening again -- doesn't feel like a "charade" to me.

Trump tweet #4, 6:50 p.m.

"Biggest story today between Clapper & Yates is on surveillance. Why doesn't the media report on this? #FakeNews!"

Reasonable people can disagree about what the "biggest" story was coming out of the Yates/Clapper hearing. But, the idea that the surveillance story -- that the US government monitors foreign actors and could have swept up a conversation that person had with a Trump campaign official -- is a bigger deal than Russia having compromising information about the national security adviser doesn't pass the smell test for me.
I think it's absolutely worth trying to get to the bottom of how Yates came to know what she knew about Flynn and Russia and how that information got to The Washington Post. But, again, is that more important than finding out the depth of Russia's meddling in our presidential election and the extent of their contacts with Flynn and others within Trump's orbit? I think not.

The common strain through all four tweets is, of course, the "fake news" media who Trump accuses of shaping the story to fit its own agenda rather than the facts.

But, the media had nothing to do with what we learned Monday: That the acting attorney general was concerned enough about information she learned regarding the national security adviser that she sought out the White House counsel in hopes the President would "take action" (Yates' words) on the matter.

Those are the facts. If Trump and his administration believe that accounting to be either untrue or only a partial telling of what actually happened, they owe it to taxpayers to come forward and say why -- and how. Simply tweeting out a selective reading of a hearing and bashing the media doesn't help us figure out what exactly happened here and how we can prevent it from happening again.



"Simply tweeting out a selective reading of a hearing and bashing the media doesn't help us figure out what exactly happened here and how we can prevent it from happening again."




A good start for the Democrats, stop running criminals as candidates.

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#1498547 --- 05/09/17 09:46 PM Re: Clintons are the cockroaches of American politics [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
A good start for the Democrats, stop running criminals as candidates.

Go ahead, name the specific crime(s). Supported by actual FACTS, of course. crazy

< key theme-song from Jeopardy >
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#1498552 --- 05/10/17 07:49 AM Re: Clintons are the cockroaches of American politics [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
A good start for the Democrats, stop running criminals as candidates.

Go ahead, name the specific crime(s). Supported by actual FACTS, of course. crazy

< key theme-song from Jeopardy >


With Comey gone, >key up the Perry Mason Theme song<, because someone's going to prison

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#1498554 --- 05/10/17 08:01 AM Re: Clintons are the cockroaches of American politics [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
A good start for the Democrats, stop running criminals as candidates.

Go ahead, name the specific crime(s). Supported by actual FACTS, of course. crazy

< key theme-song from Jeopardy >

With Comey gone, >key up the Perry Mason Theme song<, because someone's going to prison
I wonder how Trump will like Five points. grin

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#1498555 --- 05/10/17 08:28 AM Re: Clintons are the cockroaches of American politics [Re: kyle585]
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grin

Five Points couldn't be a more perfect location! Just a hop, skip and jump visitation trip for Tommy and the good old boys after their morning coffee kkklatch at Ovid Mickey D's.


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#1498560 --- 05/10/17 01:52 PM Re: Clintons are the cockroaches of American politics [Re: Teonan]
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Originally Posted By: Teonan

grin

Five Points couldn't be a more perfect location! Just a hop, skip and jump visitation trip for Tommy and the good old boys after their morning coffee kkklatch at Ovid Mickey D's.




I didn't know prisoners at Five Points could have computer privileges, how many years are you in for, Teddy Boy?

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#1498561 --- 05/10/17 01:57 PM Re: Clintons are the cockroaches of American politics [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
A good start for the Democrats, stop running criminals as candidates.

Go ahead, name the specific crime(s). Supported by actual FACTS, of course. crazy

< key theme-song from Jeopardy >

With Comey gone, >key up the Perry Mason Theme song<, because someone's going to prison
I wonder how Trump will like Five points. grin


I wonder how Ms. Clinton would like a Federal Prison?!

Remember Mr. Comey, already said, she broke the law!

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#1498563 --- 05/10/17 02:12 PM Re: Clintons are the cockroaches of American politics [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
I wonder how Ms. Clinton would like a Federal Prison?!

Remember Mr. Comey, already said, she broke the law!
Well thanks to Trump, Comey can't do anything about it now, can he?

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#1498567 --- 05/10/17 03:24 PM Re: Clintons are the cockroaches of American politics [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Go ahead, name the specific crime(s). Supported by actual FACTS, of course. crazy
< key theme-song from Jeopardy >
With Comey gone, >key up the Perry Mason Theme song<, because someone's going to prison
I wonder how Trump will like Five points. grin
I wonder how Ms. Clinton would like a Federal Prison?!

Remember Mr. Comey, already said, she broke the law!

Not only did Clinton not break ANY laws when she sent eMails from her private server, James Comey stated that there existed 'no criminal intent'.

Comey NEVER said that she broke the law. In fact, he said that there was no proof that she had any knowledge that sending those eMails MAY have been a violation of law. Facts are funny things, like that.


So, in your OWN words... "quit hijacking the threads", Pal. whistle
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#1498574 --- 05/10/17 09:13 PM Re: Clintons are the cockroaches of American politics [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
I wonder how Ms. Clinton would like a Federal Prison?!

Remember Mr. Comey, already said, she broke the law!
Well thanks to Trump, Comey can't do anything about it now, can he?


Mr.Comey wasn't doing anything about Ms. Clinton! Now A.G Sessions, could go after the "Clinton Crime Family", with Ms. Clinton's emails going to A. Weiner's computer.

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#1498579 --- 05/10/17 09:56 PM Re: Clintons are the cockroaches of American politics [Re: Timbo]
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BIMBO! Anyone with common sense would have known better than to send those emails! Know if you wanna talk corrupt look into the Clinton foundation!

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#1498580 --- 05/10/17 11:09 PM Re: Clintons are the cockroaches of American politics [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
BIMBO! Anyone with common sense would have known better than to send those emails! Know if you wanna talk corrupt look into the Clinton foundation!

1) Wrong. It was common practice in innumerable government departments LONG before Clinton took office.

2) you have no evidence of illegalities by the Clinton Foundation otherwise you'd post incontrovertible facts to back up your sham accusations.

and

3) The Foundation is a nonprofit public organization independent of the name-bearers.

Not one shred of evidence supporting claims of quid pro quo has ever been found, and each bogus accusation of misconduct or ethical malfeasnce has been utterly disproven.

Nice try though, *assy one.
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#1498594 --- 05/11/17 07:32 AM Re: Clintons are the cockroaches of American politics [Re: Timbo]
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BIMBO! Isn't it ironic though that once The Clinton foundation came under scrutiny and quit accepting foreign money that they are going broke and laying off employees!

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#1498610 --- 05/11/17 11:24 AM Re: Clintons are the cockroaches of American politics [Re: gassy one]
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You need to learn the obvious difference between irony and coincidence.

"Coincidence" would be most conservative's seeming lack of ability to discern basic facts.

"Irony" would be your incorrect use of a word which unwittingly supports the primary point of the above definition.
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#1498613 --- 05/11/17 11:42 AM Re: Clintons are the cockroaches of American politics [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
... once The Clinton foundation came under scrutiny and quit accepting foreign money that they are going broke and laying off employees!

You know not from whence you speak.
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#1498618 --- 05/11/17 01:01 PM Re: Clintons are the cockroaches of American politics [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: gassy one
... once The Clinton foundation came under scrutiny and quit accepting foreign money that they are going broke and laying off employees!

You know not from whence you speak.


I believe Mr. Comey, rewrote Federal Law, and that's the how he kept from charging Ms. Clinton!


http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/437479/fbi-rewrites-federal-law-let-hillary-hook

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