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#1514892 --- 05/20/18 04:55 PM Re: $56 MILLION school budget [Re: bluezone]
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Blue may be closer to being correct than you may think, Timbo. The district's automatic pay ("step") increases, the rate of pension co-pay for the district (the teachers pay nothing after 3 years) and the health care rate all trend together and are fairly constant. I haven't checked his math, but there are few factors that exhibit a downward pressure on school costs. As the last vote indicates, the citizens think this is money worth spending.

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#1514894 --- 05/20/18 11:38 PM Re: $56 MILLION school budget [Re: Tacitus]
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Originally Posted By: Tacitus
Blue may be closer to being correct than you may think, Timbo. The district's automatic pay ("step") increases, the rate of pension co-pay for the district (the teachers pay nothing after 3 years) and the health care rate all trend together and are fairly constant. I haven't checked his math, but there are few factors that exhibit a downward pressure on school costs. As the last vote indicates, the citizens think this is money worth spending.

"May" is the working word, here, and bluezone is notorious for making ludicrous conclusions based on inane leaps of logic and a highly biased agenda, as she's once again doing in this instance.

So, I challenge bluezone or anyone else to try to make informed, accurate prognostications of the relevant financial numbers, seven years hence.



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#1514936 --- 05/23/18 04:54 AM Re: $56 MILLION school budget [Re: bluezone]
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I guess we'll have to wait seven years to see if Bluezone is right.

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#1514939 --- 05/23/18 10:02 AM Re: $56 MILLION school budget [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: 764379255223
$35 per $100,000 equates for most people in Geneva to less
than $ 1 per week.


Less than $1 per week?

Must be you are not aware that the geneva school system qualifies for the federal free lunch program because nearly 60% of the students are at the poverty level

If their parents are unable to afford to buy their children lunch how do you expect them to come up with more money to pay higher school taxes?
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#1514940 --- 05/23/18 10:08 AM Re: $56 MILLION school budget [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo

So, I challenge bluezone or anyone else to try to make informed, accurate prognostications of the relevant financial numbers, seven years hence.[/size]


The larger the school budget grows the faster the total school budget increases even if under the state tax cap

2% of $56 million is much larger than 2% of $23 million

Simple math
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#1514943 --- 05/23/18 10:48 AM Re: $56 MILLION school budget [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
"May" is the working word, here, and bluezone is notorious for making ludicrous conclusions based on inane leaps of logic and a highly biased agenda, ,,,,


Is it true that the enrollment is down by 17%?

Is it true that the school budget increase over the past two years is 17%?

Seems to be a 34% increase even with enrollment down

With the enrollment down it should be easy to have a ZERO INCREASE in the school budget because the money NOT being spent on the students that left the district should cover any increase
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#1514944 --- 05/23/18 11:00 AM Re: $56 MILLION school budget [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
the


Go to your boss and say you want a 17% increase in your pay BUT you will be doing 17% LESS work for that 17% pay increase

Expect your boss to LAUGH you out of his/her office
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#1515292 --- 06/05/18 01:26 PM Re: $56 MILLION school budget [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo

So, I challenge bluezone or anyone else to try to make informed, accurate prognostications of the relevant financial numbers, seven years hence.[/size]



You know that the school budget has increased 17% over the past two years

now just use those same numbers going out 7 years and you will see that the school budget will reach $100 MILLION if the current trend continues

the school employees vote for all increases in the budget because it benefits them

the school budget and the employee (pay, benefits, healthcare, pensions...) budget should be seperated and voted on seperately

the employees and their familes should not be allowed to vote themselves an increase


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Seventy percent or more of our annual budgets go to personnel costs, including the pensions, health care and salaries of our teachers and staff, past and present.

We face state employee pension, workers compensation and healthcare costs for the upcoming year that continue to overwhelm school budgets

Trina Newton
Geneva CSD



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Trina Newton - As far as the issues, when I look at the financial piece, healthcare is just out of control. When I take a look at whatís driving the budgets, itís not what should be driving the budgets.

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#1515698 --- Yesterday at 07:42 AM Re: $56 MILLION school budget [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: Tacitus
Blue may be closer to being correct than you may think, Timbo. The district's automatic pay ("step") increases, the rate of pension co-pay for the district (the teachers pay nothing after 3 years) and the health care rate all trend together and are fairly constant. I haven't checked his math, but there are few factors that exhibit a downward pressure on school costs. As the last vote indicates, the citizens think this is money worth spending.

"May" is the working word, here, and bluezone is notorious for making ludicrous conclusions based on inane leaps of logic and a highly biased agenda, as she's once again doing in this instance.

So, I challenge bluezone or anyone else to try to make informed, accurate prognostications of the relevant financial numbers, seven years hence.


you have had plenty of time to run the basic numbers

double check the numbers below - it is simple math wink

if the current increases to the school budget over the past two years were drawn out over the next 7 years the numbers below indicate a $100 million school budget in just over 7 years

starting with the current $56 million school budget

the next years budget would be $60,760,000 if the same increases were applied

year #2) $65,924,600
year #3) $71,528,191
year #4) $77,608,087
year #5) $84,204,774
year #6) $91,362,179
year #7) $99,127,964
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#1515699 --- Yesterday at 07:52 AM Re: $56 MILLION school budget [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
bluezone is notorious for making ludicrous conclusions based on inane leaps of logic


you have been given the numbers

find fault in the numbers and point it out

yawn...
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