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#1498199 --- 04/29/17 05:09 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: cwjga
It appears Trump no longer cares about increasing the deficit despite all his campaigning against it. The job of president is a heck of a place for him to be doing so much on the job training of himself.


Yeah, we all know about how concerned the Democrats are with the deficit, look at the last eight years!
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#1498205 --- 04/29/17 07:20 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: ThomasDecker]
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/29/politics/trump-world-leaders-image-100-days/index.html

The world was dumbfounded by the election of Donald Trump, and his first 100 days in office have done little to alleviate a deep sense of uncertainty and unpredictability. Indeed, as one observer put it, the last few weeks alone have caused a severe case of global geostrategic whiplash.

The number of campaign promises that have morphed into presidential U-turns is staggering. Allies and adversaries alike are trying to figure out whether a Trump Doctrine is emerging, or whether, as former CIA Director Michael Hayden recently told me, a discernible doctrine does not exist in what resembles a family-run business of policy from the White House.

National security adviser H.R. McMaster "has hired a very bright woman to write the US National Security Strategy," he said. "It's a tough job. I did it twice for George H.W. Bush. But I was building on precedent and historic consensus. It's really going to be interesting to see what an America First national security strategy looks like when you've got to write it down."
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#1498208 --- 04/29/17 09:03 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: kyle585]
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"I never realized healthcare could be so complicated"...."I never realized being president could be so hard".... "I never realized trying to come across as being human could be so difficult."

Ahhh...we knew you were over your head all along Donnie. SAD.



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#1498211 --- 04/30/17 02:31 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Thousands of State Department Employees Could Be Out of a Job

The State Department is reportedly set to get a lot leaner soon if a proposal to cut 2,300 jobs ends up going through, which would be an important part of President Donald Trump’s campaign promise to put the bloated federal government on a diet.

What’s going on? The Associated Press reported:

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is proposing to eliminate 2,300 jobs as part of a plan to cut more than a quarter of the State Department’s budget for the next fiscal year, officials said Friday. The plan will almost certainly meet resistance from lawmakers opposing President Donald Trump’s proposal to shrink the size of the federal government.

Tillerson’s proposal reduces the number of new diplomats being hired and includes the State Department and U.S. Agency for International Development’s possible consolidation, according to officials briefed on the proposal. The staff cuts would amount to about 3 percent of the department’s roughly 75,000-strong workforce.
http://thefederalistpapers.org/us/thousands-of-state-department-employees-could-be-out-of-a-job
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#1498213 --- 04/30/17 09:01 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: ThomasDecker]
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http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-fir...s-fewer-words-1

Franklin D. Roosevelt got more done in his first 100 days in office than any president before him or any since. He took office in the depths of the Great Depression, enacting a dizzying number of laws and signing executive orders to stabilize the economy with the New Deal.

Roosevelt is the reason people focus on the first 100 days. When presidents take office, they have the most political capital to enact their agenda. Studies have found that it's the most productive time for legislative action.

Of course, presidents don't have total control over their time in office. Ronald Reagan was shot during his first 100 days and spent the last month in the hospital. Bill Clinton's first months were distracted by the controversial "don't ask, don't tell" military policy, then the fatal raid in Waco, Texas. George W. Bush bombed Iraq, and Barack Obama had to save Captain Richard Phillips from Somali pirates.

Donald Trump's 100th day in office is Saturday. How has his tenure compared with that of the last three presidents?
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#1498214 --- 04/30/17 09:05 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/04/30/david-gergen-trump-rally-divisive-sot-nr.cnn

Former Reagan presidential adviser David Gergen called President Donald Trump's speech at a campaign-style rally in Pennsylvania "deeply disturbing."
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#1498216 --- 04/30/17 11:56 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: kyle585]
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Still winning


Funny how liberals are all for tax reform, until some one actually tries to do it. Big talk no action as always.


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#1498218 --- 04/30/17 12:38 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: cwjga]
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Originally Posted By: cwjga
Still winnin fpor


Funny how liberals are all for tax reform, until some one actually tries to do it. Big talk no action as always.
Liberals certainly have no problem with tax reform unless the vast majority of the benefits go to rich people which is Trump's plan to a T. (That is T for Trump who will save million himself)
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#1498219 --- 04/30/17 12:41 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/04/30/david-gergen-trump-rally-divisive-sot-nr.cnn

Former Reagan presidential adviser David Gergen called President Donald Trump's speech at a campaign-style rally in Pennsylvania "deeply disturbing."
Bullying seems to be a growing problem in this country. That is hardly suprising when the president is a huge bully himself.
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#1498231 --- 04/30/17 10:56 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: kyle585]
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"Bullying seems to be a growing problem in this country. That is hardly suprising when the president is a huge bully himself."



I believe you've misidentified bullying for standing up to the Liberal left!



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#1498233 --- 04/30/17 11:23 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Trump bullies everyone he comes into contact with who disagrees with him in the slightest, not just the left.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/harlan-green/president-trumps-bully-me_b_14418006.html

President Trump’s Bully Mentality

President Trump’s first days in office were alarming for several reasons. He immediately began attacking the press, while intentionally stating falsehoods such as he would have won the popular vote, but for “3 to 5 million” fraudulent votes. Or, maybe they weren’t intentional falsehoods? Since most of those falsehoods are easily debunked, such as the size of the crowds at Friday’s Inauguration and Saturday women’s march.

Then you have the CIA meeting, where he stated that it was the lying media that made up his dispute with the intelligence community, whereas it is easy to check Trump’s speeches and Twitter messages for all to see he was the one that criticized the intelligence community for their findings that Vladimir Putin’s intelligence services wanted him elected.

So could it be that he is delusional, the words of Mother Jones’ David Corn? Or is it possible that he only listens to news from the likes of Breitbart, The National Inquirer, Fox, and Russ Limbaugh that cater to his voters, not the mass media that reports to the rest of US?

No, it is far more likely that he believes his success in business, such as it is, was due to his bullying tactics, tactics that browbeat investors and lenders to such an extent that he can no longer rely on U.S. investors and banks to finance his projects. So he doesn’t care—and may even have contempt for—facts or truths or any kind that don’t further his agenda.

A New York Times reporter on Lawrence O-Donnell’s MSNBC Last Word said it reminded her of the behavior of dictators, such as the current Russian and Chinese autocrats who considered all news as grist for their propaganda mills.

I have written about the bully mentality several times that has led to increased bullying in school, and even gun violence. It is a mentality that attempts to impose a bully’s version of reality on the real world for the sole purpose of domination. President Trump has always acted the bully, which is the reason for his history of lawsuits and bankruptcies, so that facts are only useful in so much as they support his positions.


Evidence of Trump’s bullying tactics also comes from his words on Twitter and elsewhere, reports Groff Beattle, a professor of Psychology at Edge Hill University who specializes in gestures, has discussed how Trump uses the body language and mannerisms of a bully, such as the exaggerated use of his hands.
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#1498241 --- 05/01/17 01:33 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: kyle585]
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Trump wants to be a dictator and he will if we don't stop him.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dona...kushpmg00000009


Donald Trump Calls Kim Jong Un A ‘Smart Cookie’
It’s not the first time the president has praised a vicious dictator.

President Donald Trump this weekend called North Korean leader Kim Jong Un a “smart cookie” in his latest praise of a controversial dictator.

“He was a young man of 26 or 27 when he took over from his father, when his father died. He’s dealing with obviously very tough people,” Trump told CBS’ John Dickerson in an interview that aired on Sunday’s episode of “Face the Nation.”

“A lot of people, I’m sure, tried to take that power away, whether it was his uncle or anybody else,” Trump continued. “And he was able to do it, so obviously, he’s a pretty smart cookie.”

Kim isn’t the only strongman Trump has praised. He called Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdo&#287;an to congratulate him on his recent electoral win, despite concerns that it may have been rigged. He also on Saturday invited Philippine leader Rodrigo Duterte to visit the White House. Duterte, who has said he doesn’t care about human rights, is accused of ordering extrajudicial killings on thousands of people.

Most prominently, Trump is often criticized over his relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin, who is said to have ordered hackers to interfere in the U.S. election in order to help Trump win. Several members of the Trump campaign, included Secretary of State Jeff Sessions and embattled former national security adviser Michael Flynn, are accused of having improper contact with the Kremlin.
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#1498255 --- 05/01/17 09:24 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: ThomasDecker]
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#1498259 --- 05/02/17 12:17 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: cwjga]
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Winning

Trump likes to say "believe me". That is very hard to do when every day he changes his story on what he said the day before. That leaves congressional republicans not knowing what to do or believe and his staff scrambling to cover her latest nutty statement. To say nothing of America's allies who are very concerned about where they stand with us. They have never seen anything like this before. Nor have we.
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#1498262 --- 05/02/17 01:26 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Trump likes to say "believe me". That is very hard to do when every day he changes his story on what he said the day before.

On THAT note...wowzee.


'Most Fact-Challenged Politician Ever' Trump Asks Why Civil War Happened

'UMMM... SLAVERY'

by Nadia Prupis, staff writer
Common Dreams

Monday, May 01, 2017


President Donald Trump is officially the most "fact-challenged" politician that the Washington Post's Fact Checker has ever encountered, columnists Glenn Kessler and Michelle Ye Hee Lee reported Monday, just hours before the president claimed in a radio interview that "people don't ask" why the Civil War happened.

In his first 100 days in office, they report, Trump has made 488 false or misleading claims—an average of 4.9 a day; gone no more than 10 days, counting six on a golfing vacation, without a single false claim; and made 20 or more false claims on four separate days.

His falsehoods ranged from taking credit for the January jobs report that showed the U.S. had created 216,000 new jobs, even though the data came from before he took office, to claiming the "failing" New York Times "had to" apologize to its readers for the coverage they gave him. It isn't, and it didn't.

Even the statement "We are keeping one promise after another," which Trump said during a Pennsylvania rally to mark his 100 days, was a lie, the Post noted, in that he has broken five of his campaign pledges and taken no action on more than half of the others—perhaps most notably his vow to "drain the swamp" of corporate interests, which he has followed up on by appointing CEOs, bankers, and lobbyists to crucial White House positions.

The Post's tally came just before the Washington Examiner published an excerpt of an upcoming interview between Trump and Examiner journalist Salena Zito for Sirius XM's "POTUS" station in which the president called seventh U.S. President Andrew Jackson a "swashbuckler" and asked why there was a Civil War.

Trump said of the slave-owning president who signed the Indian Removal Act and died 16 years before the war began in 1861, "He was a very tough person, but he had a big heart. And he was really angry that—he saw what was happening with regard to the Civil War. He said, 'There's no reason for this.' People don't realize, you know, the Civil War—if you think about it, why? People don't ask that question, but why was there the Civil War? Why could that one not have been worked out?"

The comments unsurprisingly drew condemnation and outrage.

"President Trump doesn't understand why there was a Civil war," Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) tweeted. "It's because my ancestors and millions of others were enslaved."

Symone D. Sanders, a CNN political commentator and former national press secretary for Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), tweeted, "UMMM... SLAVERY. The thing southern states were most concerned about in 1861 was the right to perpetuate slavery."

Times journalist Binyamin Appelbaum added, "I'm excited for next year when Trump finds out about the American Revolution. Wait, there was a king?"

The Post's tally was published just days after a slew of progressive watchdogs released their own "100 days" reports finding that as the Trump administration cracks down on human rights and environmental protections, it is simultaneously awakening a "golden era" of activism.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/0...il-war-happened
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#1498270 --- 05/02/17 05:35 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: Teonan]
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http://www.salon.com/2017/05/01/historia...hrow-democracy/

Historian Timothy Snyder: “It’s pretty much inevitable” that Trump will try to stage a coup and overthrow democracy

Yale historian and author of the new book "On Tyranny" says we may have one year left to save American democracy



American democracy is in crisis. The election of Donald Trump feels like a state of emergency made normal.

Trump has threatened violence against his political enemies. He has made clear he does not believe in the norms and traditions of American democracy — unless they serve his interests. Trump and his advisers consider a free press to be enemies of his regime. Trump repeatedly lies and has a profoundly estranged relationship with empirical reality. He uses obvious and naked racism, nativism and bigotry to mobilize his voters and to disparage entire groups of people such as Latinos and Muslims.

Trump is threatening to eliminate an independent judiciary and wants to punish judges who dare to stand against his illegal and unconstitutional mandates. In what appears to be a violation of the emoluments clause of the Constitution, Trump is using the office of the presidency to enrich himself, his family and his inner circle by peddling influence and access to corporations, foreign countries and wealthy individuals. Trump and his representatives also believe that he is above the law and cannot be prosecuted for any crimes while in office.

What can the American people do to resist Donald Trump? What lessons can history teach about the rise of authoritarianism and fascism and how democracies collapse? Are there ways that individuals can fight back on a daily basis and in their own personal lives against the political and cultural forces that gave rise to Trump’s movement? How long does American democracy have before the poison that Donald Trump and the Republican Party injected into the country’s body politic becomes lethal?

In an effort to answer these questions, I recently spoke with Timothy Snyder, a professor of history at Yale University. He is the award-winning author of numerous books including the recent “Black Earth: The Holocaust as History and Warning” and “Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin.” Snyder’s new book, “On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century,” explores how the American people can fight back against Donald Trump’s incipient authoritarian regime.

Our conversation has been edited for length and clarity. A longer version can be heard on my podcast, available on Salon’s Featured Audio page.

The election of Donald Trump is a crisis for American democracy. How did this happen?

We asked for it by saying that history was over in 1989 [with the end of the Cold War]. By saying that nothing bad could [ever] happen again, we were basically inviting something bad to happen.

Our story about how nothing could [ever] go wrong was a story about how human nature is the free market and the free market brings democracy, so everything is hunky-dory — and of course every part of that story is nonsense. The Greeks understood that democracy is likely to produce oligarchy because if you don’t have some mechanism to get inequality under control then people with the most money will likely take full control.

With Trump, one sees the new variant of this where a candidate can run by saying, “Look, we all know — wink, wink, nudge, nudge — that this isn’t really a democracy anymore.” He doesn’t use the words but basically says, “We all know this is really an oligarchy, so let me be your oligarch.” Although it’s nonsense and of course he’s a con man and will betray everyone, it makes sense only in this climate of inequality.

In my writing and interviews, I have consistently referred to Donald Trump as a fascist. I have received a great deal of resistance to that claim. Do you think this description is correct? If not, then what language should we use to describe Donald Trump?
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One of the problems with American discourse is that we just assume everybody is a friendly democratic parliamentarian pluralist until proven otherwise. And then even when it’s proven otherwise we don’t have any vocabulary for it. He’s a “dictator.” He’s an “authoritarian.” He’s “Hitler.” We just toss these words around.

The pushback that you are talking about is 95 percent bad. Americans do not want to think that there is an alternative to what we have. Therefore, as soon as you say “fascism” or whatever it might be, then the American response is to say “no” because we lack the categories that allow us to think outside of the box that we are no longer in.

Is this a function of American exceptionalism?

Yes, it is. We made a move towards intellectual isolationism in a world where no kind of isolationism is possible. The fact that democracies usually fail is a rule which can’t apply to us. If you examine American society, there are high points and low points. But there is certainly nothing which puts us in a different category than other people who have failed, whether it’s historically or whether it’s now.

I don’t want to dodge your question about whether Trump is a fascist or not. As I see it, there are certainly elements of his approach which are fascistic. The straight-on confrontation with the truth is at the center of the fascist worldview. The attempt to undo the Enlightenment as a way to undo institutions, that is fascism.

Whether he realizes it or not is a different question, but that’s what fascists did. They said, “Don’t worry about the facts; don’t worry about logic. Think instead in terms of mystical unities and direct connections between the mystical leader and the people.” That’s fascism. Whether we see it or not, whether we like it or not, whether we forget, that is fascism.

Another thing that’s clearly fascist about Trump were the rallies. The way that he used the language, the blunt repetitions, the naming of the enemies, the physical removal of opponents from rallies, that was really, without exaggeration, just like the 1920s and the 1930s.

And Mr. [Steve] Bannon’s preoccupation with the 1930s and his kind of wishful reclamation of Italian and other fascists speaks for itself.

How did the news media and others get this so wrong? Why did they underestimate the threat posed by Donald Trump and his movement?

What we ended up with, from Bill Clinton onward, is a status quo party and an “undo the system” party, where the Democrats became the status quo party and the Republicans became the “undo the system” party. In that constellation it’s very hard to think of change because one party is in favor of things being the way they are, just slightly better, and the other party has this big idea of undoing everything, although it’s unclear what that really means in practice. So no one is actually articulating how you address the problems of the day, the greatest of which would be inequality. When neither party is creative, then it’s hard for scholars to get their ideas into meaningful circulation.

Why is Trump not being held accountable for all of his failures, scandals and incompetence?

Mr. Trump is primarily a television personality. As such, he is judged by that standard. This means that a scandal does not call forth a response; it calls forth the desire for a bigger scandal. It just whets the appetite for a bigger scandal because a television serial has to work on that logic. It’s almost as though he has to produce these outrageous things because what else would he be doing?
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#1498272 --- 05/02/17 06:24 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: ThomasDecker]
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President Trump, is outing the traitors in the Republican Party for the RINO class that they have become.
And the Rhino's are tanking, even FOX has turned tabloid. Trump is pure genius, and the USA is now his brand!

This is the Biggest Win yet.
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#1498274 --- 05/02/17 06:38 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
President Trump, is o.uting the traitors in the Republican Party for the RINO class that they have become.
And the Rhino's are tanking, even FOX has turned tabloid. Trump is pure genius, and the USA is now his brand!

This is the Biggest Win yet.
OMG. OMG. This is about the most shocking and disgusting thing I have ever read. If you are right our democracy is doomed and we will be living under dictator Trump for the rest of his life. And then one of his children will take over just they do it under the honorable line of secession in North Korea.
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#1498275 --- 05/02/17 06:42 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/02/john-mccain-trump-comments-kim-jong-un-237873

President Donald Trump’s comments praising North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un are “very disturbing,” Sen. John McCain said Tuesday, because they undermine America’s moral authority around the world and pull the nation away from the principles that made it a superpower.
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#1498276 --- 05/02/17 07:13 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE WINNING! [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
President Trump, is o.uting the traitors in the Republican Party for the RINO class that they have become.
And the Rhino's are tanking, even FOX has turned tabloid. Trump is pure genius, and the USA is now his brand!

This is the Biggest Win yet.
OMG. OMG. This is about the most shocking and disgusting thing I have ever read. If you are right our democracy is doomed and we will be living under dictator Trump for the rest of his life. And then one of his children will take over just they do it under the honorable line of secession in North Korea.


It must be Throwback Tuesday ala 1930's. Tommy's puffed-up more than a traitorous Nazi Brownshirt.

What's next? A "Reichstag Fire" false flag event from the Führer-in-chief?

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