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#1497952 --- 04/19/17 11:05 AM Re: Bolling: It Took Obama 2,920 Days to 'Diminish America's Standing' — and Trump 77 Days to Fix It [Re: The Mechanic]
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Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
Originally Posted By: Timbo

How ya been, Harley?


Oh hey Billy. How's the Hillary presidency working out for you?
It certainly would of been a lot better than the totally uninformed lying joker we got in there now.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/4834/trumps-101-lies-hank-berrien

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#1497961 --- 04/19/17 11:46 AM Re: Bolling: It Took Obama 2,920 Days to 'Diminish America's Standing' — and Trump 77 Days to Fix It [Re: The Mechanic]
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Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
Originally Posted By: Timbo

How ya been, Harley?

Oh hey Billy.

"Billy" ? ? ?
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#1497962 --- 04/19/17 11:55 AM Re: Bolling: It Took Obama 2,920 Days to 'Diminish America's Standing' — and Trump 77 Days to Fix It [Re: Timbo]
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LOL, he's hallucinating from the last object he saw before blacking out, Fact or as we call it, a Billy club, knocking out every lie and misconception they attempt to propagate.

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#1501819 --- 07/18/17 05:08 PM Re: Bolling: It Took Obama 2,920 Days to 'Diminish America's Standing' — and Trump 77 Days to Fix It [Re: Formermac]
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LOL, he's hallucinating from the last object he saw before blacking out, Fact or as we call it, a Billy club, knocking out every lie and misconception they attempt to propagate.


Here's the truth for you. Trump is President. Hillary is not.
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#1501820 --- 07/18/17 05:11 PM Re: Bolling: It Took Obama 2,920 Days to 'Diminish America's Standing' — and Trump 77 Days to Fix It [Re: The Mechanic]
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Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
LOL, he's hallucinating from the last object he saw before blacking out, Fact or as we call it, a Billy club, knocking out every lie and misconception they attempt to propagate.
Here's the truth for you. Trump is President. Hillary is not.
We had a Republican president resign before. At the rate this fiasco is picking up speed now, I expect Trump to be the second one.

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#1501823 --- 07/18/17 05:42 PM Re: Bolling: It Took Obama 2,920 Days to 'Diminish America's Standing' — and Trump 77 Days to Fix It [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
We had a Republican president resign before. At the rate this fiasco is picking up speed now, I expect Trump to be the second one.


And how soon do you figure?





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#1501825 --- 07/18/17 05:57 PM Re: Bolling: It Took Obama 2,920 Days to 'Diminish America's Standing' — and Trump 77 Days to Fix It [Re: The Mechanic]
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Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
Originally Posted By: kyle585
We had a Republican president resign before. At the rate this fiasco is picking up speed now, I expect Trump to be the second one.


And how soon do you figure?







I believe Kyle just woke up from his nap, he must have been dreaming.

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#1501828 --- 07/18/17 06:16 PM Re: Bolling: It Took Obama 2,920 Days to 'Diminish America's Standing' — and Trump 77 Days to Fix It [Re: The Mechanic]
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Originally Posted By: The Mechanic
Originally Posted By: kyle585
We had a Republican president resign before. At the rate this fiasco is picking up speed now, I expect Trump to be the second one.
And how soon do you figure?
He has such a fragile ego. The biggest baby I have ever seen in a grown man much less a president. When the Dems take over the house in Nov, 2018, he will resign. Heck, he can't even get a Republican led congress to work with him.

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#1501829 --- 07/18/17 06:22 PM Re: Bolling: It Took Obama 2,920 Days to 'Diminish America's Standing' — and Trump 77 Days to Fix It [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trum...kushpmg00000009

Trump’s Plan To ‘Let Obamacare Fail’ Is Morally Appalling

Donald Trump is president now and it’s his job to run this government, whether he likes it or not.

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#1501830 --- 07/18/17 06:26 PM Re: Bolling: It Took Obama 2,920 Days to 'Diminish America's Standing' — and Trump 77 Days to Fix It [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/wsj-torches-trump-don-jr-created-appearance-conspiracy-144342071.html

The conservative Wall Street Journal editorial board published a scathing assessment of President Trump and his son Donald Trump Jr.’s conduct in the wake of the fallout caused by the latter’s meeting with a Russian lawyer during the 2016 campaign.

Titled “The Trumps and the Truth,” the editorial urges “radical transparency” from the White House in its approach to the congressional and Justice Department Russia probes.

“Even Donald Trump might agree that a major reason he won the 2016 election is because voters couldn’t abide Hillary Clinton’s legacy of scandal, deception and stonewalling,” the paper said. “Yet on the story of Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election, Mr. Trump and his family are repeating the mistakes that doomed Mrs. Clinton.”

Trump Jr.’s changing statements concerning the meeting, and his eventual admission that he attended because he was offered incriminating information from the Russian government about his father’s opponent, earned a less-than-rosy evaluation from the Journal.

“Even if the ultimate truth of this tale is merely that Don Jr. is a political dunce who took a meeting that went nowhere — the best case — the Trumps made it appear as if they have something to hide. They have created the appearance of a conspiracy that on the evidence Don Jr. lacks the wit to concoct.”

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#1501831 --- 07/18/17 06:27 PM Re: Bolling: It Took Obama 2,920 Days to 'Diminish America's Standing' — and Trump 77 Days to Fix It [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/realities-destroy-mr-trump-wall-155209749.html

'These realities will destroy Mr. Trump': Wall Street Journal editorial board tears into Trump over Russia 'fiasco'

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#1501832 --- 07/18/17 06:29 PM Re: Bolling: It Took Obama 2,920 Days to 'Diminish America's Standing' — and Trump 77 Days to Fix It [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-goes-apos-collusion-normal-161811961.html

After months of adamantly denying that investigators would find even a shred of evidence pointing to collusion between his campaign and Russia, President Donald Trump is aggressively embracing the view that his son’s cooperation with apparent Russian agents was entirely normal. On Monday, he acknowledged that his son, Donald Trump Jr., met with a Russian lawyer in the hopes of receiving damaging information about Hillary Clinton:

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#1501833 --- 07/18/17 06:35 PM Re: Bolling: It Took Obama 2,920 Days to 'Diminish America's Standing' — and Trump 77 Days to Fix It [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.businessinsider.com/senate-health-care-bill-vote-trump-agenda-2017-7

An 'unmitigated disaster for Trump': President's agenda in shambles after healthcare collapse

"Last night's death of the health bill is an unmitigated disaster for Trump, who said last year that it would be easy to replace Obamacare with 'something terrific,'" Valliere wrote in a note to clients on Tuesday.

Trump's apparently shifting priorities aligned with a monthslong push from Trump that oftentimes seemed uncoordinated at best.

Trump frequently appeared disengaged in the talks, with reports suggesting senators were confused by the policy topics he brought up in meetings.

For instance, during a dinner with Republican senators Monday, Trump reportedly brought up selling insurance across state lines — one of the priorities for which he advocated in the campaign — and bringing down drug prices. Neither of these issues could be dealt with in the bill due to Senate rules, however.

Additionally, some public-relations missteps cost the White House dearly in its attempts to sell the healthcare overhaul. Perhaps most glaringly, Trump called the House version of its healthcare bill "mean" just a few weeks after its passage, frustrating Republican lawmakers who voted for a bill that had been shown to be unpopular.

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#1501834 --- 07/18/17 07:01 PM Trump is a hopeless case [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.apnews.com/f82bd99bcdc94081a6c198ef633c4301/Analysis:-Trump-unlikely-to-avoid-blame-for-health-care-loss

Analysis: Trump unlikely to avoid blame for health care loss

NEW YORK (AP) — It was a far cry from “The buck stops here.”

President Donald Trump, dealt a stinging defeat with the failure of the Republican health care bill in the Senate, flipped the script from Harry Truman’s famous declaration of presidential responsibility and declared Tuesday, “I am not going to own it.”

He had tweeted earlier, “We were let down by all of the Democrats and a few Republicans.”

This is the same president who thundered night after night on the campaign trail that it would be “so easy” to repeal and replace the Obama health care law on Day One of his administration.

Try and tweet as he might, Trump can’t now avoid a share of the blame for the stall-out of that repeal effort.

It’s a president’s burden to shoulder the nation’s problems whether they are inherited or created in real time. Barack Obama took office with the American economy facing its worst crisis since the Great Depression. John F. Kennedy accepted responsibility for the failure of the invasion of Cuba at the Bay of Pigs, ordered on his own watch.

“That’s the nature of being elected president: You own the policies, the economy and the government,” said presidential historian Julian Zelizer, a professor at Princeton University. “You own the positives and negatives of the job whether you think it’s your fault or not. You live in the White House: You can’t disassociate yourself from what happens if you don’t like it.”

Trump took office armed with Republican control of both houses of Congress and an ambitious agenda that would begin with the repeal and replacement of Obamacare. Six months later, the collapse of the GOP plan was a sharp rebuke for the president, who was unable to cajole or threaten Republicans to stay in line and who exerted little of his diminished political capital to see through a promise that had been at the core of his party since Obamacare became law seven years ago.

The president’s disjointed support for the health care plan did little to persuade Republicans to support it, and the fact that his approval ratings had dropped below 40 percent didn’t help either.

Trump never held a news conference or delivered a major speech to sell the bill to the public. He never leveraged his popularity among rank-and-file Republican voters by barnstorming the districts of wavering GOP senators. And he never spearheaded a coherent communications strategy — beyond random tweets — to push for the plan.

“The best way to motivate members is talk to their constituents and at no point did he try to talk to Americans about health care reform in any sort of serious way,” said Alex Conant, a Republican strategist who worked on Florida Sen. Marco Rubio’s 2016 presidential campaign. “His attention seems to drift with whatever is on cable news on any given moment as opposed to what is on the Senate floor any given week.”

Sounding almost like a bystander during his brief Oval Office remarks Tuesday, Trump six times expressed “disappointment” that the Republican effort had failed. And he insisted the fault rested with Democrats and suggested Obamacare should be left to fail on its own.

“I’m not going to own it,” Trump insisted. “I can tell you that Republicans are not going to own it.”

Democrats blasted Trump’s blame game, with Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer saying his refusal to accept responsibility demonstrated “such a lack of leadership.”

“That is such a small and petty response,” Schumer said. “Because the president, he’s in charge. And to hurt millions of people because he’s angry he didn’t get his way is not being a leader.”

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#1501850 --- 07/18/17 10:45 PM Re: Trump is a hopeless case [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.apnews.com/f82bd99bcdc94081a6c198ef633c4301/Analysis:-Trump-unlikely-to-avoid-blame-for-health-care-loss

Analysis: Trump unlikely to avoid blame for health care loss

NEW YORK (AP) — It was a far cry from “The buck stops here.”

President Donald Trump, dealt a stinging defeat with the failure of the Republican health care bill in the Senate, flipped the script from Harry Truman’s famous declaration of presidential responsibility and declared Tuesday, “I am not going to own it.”

He had tweeted earlier, “We were let down by all of the Democrats and a few Republicans.”

This is the same president who thundered night after night on the campaign trail that it would be “so easy” to repeal and replace the Obama health care law on Day One of his administration.

Try and tweet as he might, Trump can’t now avoid a share of the blame for the stall-out of that repeal effort.

It’s a president’s burden to shoulder the nation’s problems whether they are inherited or created in real time. Barack Obama took office with the American economy facing its worst crisis since the Great Depression. John F. Kennedy accepted responsibility for the failure of the invasion of Cuba at the Bay of Pigs, ordered on his own watch.

“That’s the nature of being elected president: You own the policies, the economy and the government,” said presidential historian Julian Zelizer, a professor at Princeton University. “You own the positives and negatives of the job whether you think it’s your fault or not. You live in the White House: You can’t disassociate yourself from what happens if you don’t like it.”

Trump took office armed with Republican control of both houses of Congress and an ambitious agenda that would begin with the repeal and replacement of Obamacare. Six months later, the collapse of the GOP plan was a sharp rebuke for the president, who was unable to cajole or threaten Republicans to stay in line and who exerted little of his diminished political capital to see through a promise that had been at the core of his party since Obamacare became law seven years ago.

The president’s disjointed support for the health care plan did little to persuade Republicans to support it, and the fact that his approval ratings had dropped below 40 percent didn’t help either.

Trump never held a news conference or delivered a major speech to sell the bill to the public. He never leveraged his popularity among rank-and-file Republican voters by barnstorming the districts of wavering GOP senators. And he never spearheaded a coherent communications strategy — beyond random tweets — to push for the plan.

“The best way to motivate members is talk to their constituents and at no point did he try to talk to Americans about health care reform in any sort of serious way,” said Alex Conant, a Republican strategist who worked on Florida Sen. Marco Rubio’s 2016 presidential campaign. “His attention seems to drift with whatever is on cable news on any given moment as opposed to what is on the Senate floor any given week.”

Sounding almost like a bystander during his brief Oval Office remarks Tuesday, Trump six times expressed “disappointment” that the Republican effort had failed. And he insisted the fault rested with Democrats and suggested Obamacare should be left to fail on its own.

“I’m not going to own it,” Trump insisted. “I can tell you that Republicans are not going to own it.”

Democrats blasted Trump’s blame game, with Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer saying his refusal to accept responsibility demonstrated “such a lack of leadership.”

“That is such a small and petty response,” Schumer said. “Because the president, he’s in charge. And to hurt millions of people because he’s angry he didn’t get his way is not being a leader.”
It's Obama's Obamacare not Trumps! Obama said the costs would go down and everybody could afford it! What a joke! On the economy Obama made it worsr with his stupid trade deals like TPP!


Edited by gassy one (07/18/17 10:47 PM)

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#1501885 --- 07/19/17 12:19 PM Re: Trump is a hopeless case [Re: gassy one]
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-court-idUSKBN1A420D

U.S. Supreme Court partly rejects Trump in latest travel ban fight

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#1501890 --- 07/19/17 01:01 PM Re: Trump is a hopeless case [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
It's Obama's Obamacare not Trumps! Obama said the costs would go down and everybody could afford it! What a joke! On the economy Obama made it worsr with his stupid trade deals like TPP!

Get your facts straight...

First: of all: He said that insurance policy prices for those specifically targeted under The ACA would see dramatic policy rate drops. They DID. In fact, they decreased for the majority of Americans and the rate of increases to the cost insurance policies dropped to the lowest levels in US history. Rural areas had a few outliers due to lack of carriers, but that was being addressed at the time of the election.

Secondly: The economy continued it's upward expansion up until the day he left office.


Read and Learn, Kiddies:
http://www.snopes.com/health-insurance-u...ands-per-month/
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#1501921 --- 07/19/17 10:54 PM Re: Trump is a hopeless case [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
It's Obama's Obamacare not Trumps! Obama said the costs would go down and everybody could afford it! What a joke! On the economy Obama made it worsr with his stupid trade deals like TPP!

Get your facts straight...

First: of all: He said that insurance policy prices for those specifically targeted under The ACA would see dramatic policy rate drops. They DID. In fact, they decreased for the majority of Americans and the rate of increases to the cost insurance policies dropped to the lowest levels in US history. Rural areas had a few outliers due to lack of carriers, but that was being addressed at the time of the election.

Secondly: The economy continued it's upward expansion up until the day he left office.


Read and Learn, Kiddies:
http://www.snopes.com/health-insurance-u...ands-per-month/
Of course the rates dropped DUMBO because taxpayers subsidized them! Why do you think it's broke now! The economy is still up with Trump! How many manufacturing jobs were lost because of Obama's policies? Thousands & thousands!

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#1501936 --- 07/20/17 03:42 AM Re: Trump is a hopeless case [Re: gassy one]
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Breitbart hasn't changed in three days. How often do I have to read it?

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...lacement-later/

by Matthew Boyle17 Jul 2017 Washington, D.C.

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#1501937 --- 07/20/17 03:45 AM Re: Trump is a hopeless case [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
How many manufacturing jobs were lost because of Obama's policies? Thousands & thousands!


http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/jobs-record-obama-can-and-should-brag-about

The Bureau of Labor Statistics released the final jobs report of the Obama era late last week, and it showed the United States added over 2.15 million jobs in 2016. That’s the sixth consecutive year in which the country has seen job growth over 2 million – a streak unseen since the late 1990s.

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