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#1497340 --- 04/03/17 06:55 PM BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program?
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BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program?
Posted on April 2, 2017 by DCWhispers

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#1497356 --- 04/04/17 10:46 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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CNN Goes on Rampage Against Susan Rice Bombshell, Instructs Viewers to Ignore Story



'We will not aid and abet the people trying to misinform you'
Apr 4, 2017

Since news broke Monday that the Obama Administration's National Security Adviser, Susan Rice, directed the "unmasking" of NSA intercepts of Trump associates, CNN has raced to shoot down the blockbuster report.

CNN Tonight's Don Lemon went so far as to announce he would ignore the news at all costs.

While interviewing a Democratic congressman, CNN's Chris Cuomo claimed it was "demonstrably untrue" Rice sought surveillance of the Trump team, even as that's exactly what yesterday's reports prove.

Over the last 24 hours, the network has also repeatedly called on its chief national security correspondent, Jim Sciutto, to dismiss the reports as a non-story; Sciutto has even excused Rice claiming ignorance of the unmasking scandal two weeks ago, arguing Rice "wasn't aware" what unmasking Rep. Devin Nunes (D-Calif.) was referring to.

And on Tuesday's "New Day," anchor Alisyn Camerota openly pleaded with Sen. John McCain to write-off the news as unimportant.

Last night, Lemon began "CNN Tonight" with an announcement that the Rice report a "fake scandal ginned up by right-wing media and Trump" that he would not be baited into justifying with coverage.

"On this program tonight, we will not insult your intelligence by pretending," it's legitimate, he said. "Nor will we aid and abet the people trying to misinform you, the American people, by creating a diversion. Not going to do it."


https://news.grabien.com/story-cnn-goes-rampage-against-susan-rice-bombshell-instructs-view
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#1497363 --- 04/04/17 12:42 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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BREAKING on Rice-Gate: Obama Admin Spied on Sean Hannity and Erik Prince Too!



Cristina Laila Apr 4th, 2017 12:31 pm Leave a Comment

Independent Journalist, Mike Cernovich had a phone conference live on air with GotNews founder, Chuck Johnson when he broke the news that Sean Hannity and Blackwater founder, Erik Prince were being spied on by the Obama administration.

Per Chuck Johnson—– Sean Hannity and Erik Prince, Blackwater founder, were spied on by the Obama administration.

This on the heels of the news that Blackwater founder, Erik Prince had a secret meeting in the Seychelles to establish a so-called ‘Trump-Putin back channel’, according to leftist media.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/...k-prince-video/
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#1497365 --- 04/04/17 01:08 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Now aren't you a few days late on the April fool jokes or is it a revealing fact that fools celebrate everyday? What's evident as well, liars usually call everyone else liars but when they're caught in a lie, they become so thin skinned that you can see their heart pumping just like looking at a scan. Breaking News at that!!!!!!! wink
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#1497369 --- 04/04/17 02:01 PM Gullible Republicans [Re: ThomasDecker]
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The right wing media attacks on Susan Rice are absurd:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plu...m=.f5fd95975aa6


If you’re an ally (let alone an employee) of Donald Trump, the ever-widening Russia scandal has to have been disheartening. Nearly everyone agrees that the Russian government actively attempted to aid Trump’s presidential campaign, which might be possible to explain away as not Donald Trump’s fault, were it not for the fact that so many of his aides and associates have ties of one form or another to Russia, as does the president himself. So with each new revelation or phase of the investigation, the questions get more and more uncomfortable.

Which is why conservatives have been waiting so desperately for something, ANYTHING they can use to turn the story around to their advantage, no matter how ludicrous the arguments they make might be. And now they’ve found it.

And boy, are those arguments ever ludicrous. At this moment, the right wing media is going bonkers over reports that Susan Rice, who was national security adviser at the time, in 2016 requested the “unmasking” of certain U.S. persons who had been picked up in surveillance of foreign intelligence targets. Because those persons turned out to be associates of Donald Trump, conservatives have managed to twist this into the allegation that the Obama administration was “spying” on Trump and his campaign. Over at foxnews.com I count 11 separate articles about Rice on the home page. You can find similar screaming headlines at Breitbart, the Daily Caller, and all the other conservative sites — and don’t ask what’s happening on Twitter (if you want to get a taste of the lunacy, search #SusanRice).

Why the gleeful eruption of accusations? Certain conservative media already had their basic storyline, which is that the problem isn’t Russian meddling in our election, the problem is that somebody revealed Russian meddling in our election. That’s why, along with President Trump, they’re so outraged (or are at least pretending to be outraged) about leaks of the various investigations. But what they lacked was a single villain, and now they have one, someone they hated already and on whom they can focus all their considerable venom.

This afternoon on MSNBC, Rice responded to the allegations. She said, “The allegation that somehow Obama administration officials utilized intelligence for political purposes, that’s absolutely false,” adding that “I leaked nothing to nobody, and never have and never would.”

While Rice answered most of Mitchell’s questions in general terms, we need to go over this as carefully as we can, to make clear a simple point. Based on what we know so far, Susan Rice not only didn’t do anything wrong, she did exactly what we would expect of a national security adviser. Indeed, it would have been alarming if she didn’t do what we’re hearing she did.

We start with a report yesterday from Bloomberg’s Eli Lake, who was told by sources in the Trump administration that “former national security adviser Susan Rice requested the identities of U.S. persons in raw intelligence reports on dozens of occasions that connect to the Donald Trump transition and campaign.” This is referred to as “unmasking,” since ordinarily, when a U.S. person is picked up in surveillance of a foreign intelligence target, their identity is masked out of privacy concerns. For instance, the NSA might be recording the phone calls of the Russian ambassador, and if he calls an American friend and has an innocuous conversation, the identity of the American will be masked.

It’s important to understand that “unmasking” doesn’t mean making the name public, or even making the name widely available to officials inside the government. It means that the official who made the request gets to see the name. High-ranking American officials can and do request the unmasking of U.S. persons in these reports if it’s relevant to national security. As Lake himself wrote: “The standard for senior officials to learn the names of U.S. persons incidentally collected is that it must have some foreign intelligence value, a standard that can apply to almost anything. This suggests Rice’s unmasking requests were likely within the law.”

But it goes even farther than that. If Rice saw a report on conversations with foreign intelligence targets (whom we’re assuming are Russians, though we don’t yet know for sure) with the identities of the U.S. persons redacted, the content of those conversations had to have given her some reason for concern, something that suggested it would be important to know who those U.S. persons were. It wasn’t a random fishing expedition that just happened to land on associates of Donald Trump. If Rice saw a report saying that a Russian intelligence target “Placed call to U.S PERSON 1 and inquired as to when his dry cleaning would be ready,” she wouldn’t have cared who that person was, and she wouldn’t have requested the unmasking to find out.

Yet conservatives are trying to convince people that the Obama administration set out to spy on the Trump team, an allegation for which there is zero evidence. Senator Rand Paul tweeted, “Smoking gun found! Obama pal and noted dissembler Susan Rice said to have been spying on Trump campaign.” Fox’s Tucker Carlson said to his audience, “What exactly were the Obama people doing spying on the Trump people?”, adding that “Our laws currently provide no serious protection to U.S. citizens from being spied upon for political reasons by their own government, and worse, it actually happens. In fact, it just happened, and that is the scandal here.”

We can have a debate about the scope of the NSA’s surveillance authority, but we have to be clear about this: Susan Rice couldn’t have known that the foreign intelligence targets were speaking to Trump associates when she made the unmasking request, because their identities were masked. Unmasking enabled her to find out who they were. I suppose it’s possible that the content of the conversations made it obvious that the foreign intelligence target was speaking with a Trump associate, but at a time when the government was investigating Russian efforts to subvert our election, that would have made it even more urgent to know which Americans they were talking to.

It isn’t just that Rice’s effort to fully understand what was passing back and forth between foreign intelligence targets and Trump associates was legal, though it was, or that it was appropriate, though it was. It was more than that: it was absolutely critical. Indeed, it would have been a shocking dereliction of duty if she hadn’t.

What conservatives are really saying is that the national security adviser, knowing that Russia was undertaking what amounts to an assault on the American political system, shouldn’t have tried to learn all she can about what it involves. If she got a report about foreign intelligence targets talking to Americans, and the content of those conversations was enough to raise alarms, she should have just put it in a drawer and not asked anuestions.

When you see conservatives screaming about Susan Rice and accusing her of all manner of nefarious deeds, keep in mind what their goal is: to distract from the inquiry into whether Trump and his associates may have cooperated with Russia in their meddling in our election. That's what they’re after.
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#1497371 --- 04/04/17 02:15 PM Re: Gullible Republicans [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo

When you see conservatives screaming about Susan Rice and accusing her of all manner of nefarious deeds, keep in mind what their goal is: to distract from the inquiry into whether Trump and his associates may have cooperated with Russia in their meddling in our election. That's what they’re after.


Excellent blog entry Paul Waldman. Truth in a nutshell.
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#1497374 --- 04/04/17 02:55 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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#1497375 --- 04/04/17 03:03 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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President Trump, is getting it done.

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#1497376 --- 04/04/17 03:05 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker

I'm sure you'll think of something. crazy
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#1497381 --- 04/04/17 04:05 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Susan Rice Refuses to Deny Trump ‘Unmasking’ Requests — Despite Claiming Ignorance Just Weeks Ago
by Chris White | 2:19 pm, April 4th, 2017





Former White House National Security Advisor to President Obama, Susan Rice, appeared on Andrea Mitchell Reports on Tuesday in her first interview since news broke that she was allegedly involved in the “unmasking” requests of Trump campaign and transition officials. Eli Lake reported for Bloomberg News on Monday that Rice was behind the requests to unmask the identities of members of the Trump transition team inadvertently caught up in intelligence signals intercepts.




http://lawnewz.com/video/susan-rice-wont...just-weeks-ago/
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#1497383 --- 04/04/17 04:07 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker

I'm sure you'll think of something. crazy



BAM!!!!!! yes he did, and Trump is still in trouble.
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#1497386 --- 04/04/17 04:27 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Formermac]
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How is President Trump in trouble?
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#1497387 --- 04/04/17 04:42 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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This investigation was made public on October 6th 2016 and since it is still ongoing and building steam, the Feds don't chase ghosts but substantial and viable e-mails, conversations and legally obtained sources has him dead to right, the one huge hold up, why risk a bungled investigation because as you attempt assume, if they haven't wrapped it up by now, there's nothing there. realistically so, the longer this go on, more charges will be levied on more people. Trump will be charged with something very substantial, anything less has been pass on already to the Feds.
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#1497389 --- 04/04/17 04:52 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Do you think ABC News will do an Prison Interview with Susan Rice?
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#1497391 --- 04/04/17 05:13 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Do you think that you'll get brain? scarecrow, I seriously doubt it.
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#1497392 --- 04/04/17 05:15 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Formermac]
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#1497393 --- 04/04/17 05:15 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Formermac]
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BTW, how much damage will Bill O Reiley do to FOX before they dump him?
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#1497394 --- 04/04/17 05:17 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Teonan]
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#1497396 --- 04/04/17 05:28 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Teonan]
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Think that his Ad hominem & conflation approach will cancel out the Intel findings? I didn't think so. grin
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#1497401 --- 04/04/17 08:08 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Formermac]
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BREAKING!

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/04/04/castro-russia-investigation-going-to-jail-tsr.cnn

Rep. Joaquin Castro (D-TX) says that if he was a betting man, based on the evidence he's seen that some associates of President Donald Trump will go to jail for their ties to Russia's meddling in the US election.
Source: CNN
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#1497402 --- 04/04/17 08:24 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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BREAKING!!!

Susan Rices' husband is?????

Nevermind, nothing to see here.

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#1497403 --- 04/04/17 08:28 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: luckyduck]
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Blog report:

UPDATE: Susan Rice Confirms Her “Unmasking Requests” Were for President Obama’s Daily Briefing (PDB)…
Posted on April 4, 2017 by sundance


emember, the President’s Daily Brief under President Obama went to almost everyone at top levels in his administration. Regarding the Obama PDB:

[…] But while through most of its history the document has been marked “For the President’s Eyes Only,” the PDB has never gone to the president alone. The most restricted dissemination was in the early 1970s, when the book went only to President Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger, who was dual-hatted as national security adviser and secretary of state.

In other administrations, the circle of readers has also included the vice president, the secretary of defense and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, along with additional White House staffers.

By 2013, Obama’s PDB was making its way to more than 30 recipients, including the president’s top strategic communications aide and speechwriter, and deputy secretaries of national security departments. (link)

Pay attention to that last part. According to the Washington Post outline Obama’s PDB’s were going to: “Deputy Secretaries of national security departments”.

Today, Susan Rice defined the Obama national security departments to include: “State” – “Defense” (Pentagon includes NSA) and “CIA”….

So under Obama’s watch Deputy Asst. Secretaries of Defense had daily access to the PDB. And who was an Obama Deputy Secretary of Defense?

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/201...y-briefing-pdb/
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#1497404 --- 04/04/17 08:30 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: luckyduck]
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BREAKING!!!

Susan Rices' husband is?????

Nevermind, nothing to see here.


Backpeddling from the brink of a fool's freefall. Wise decision duckster.
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#1497405 --- 04/04/17 09:00 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Teonan]
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Originally Posted By: luckyduck
BREAKING!!!

Susan Rices' husband is?????

Nevermind, nothing to see here.


Backpeddling from the brink of a fool's freefall. Wise decision duckster.


What do you think Teo, how many crimes will Mr. Obama be charged with?

Would Mr. Obama have secret service protection in prison?
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#1497408 --- 04/05/17 06:36 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Better question son, how many crimes will be levied altogether irrespective of what you think? This is the reason that you are encumbered to frantically respond at every opportunity, falsely believing that your defense here on the forum will make a big difference but when you wake up to reality, Trump's fate is in the hands of the Intel committee....but that's your insurmountable Nemesis isn't it? wink
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#1497412 --- 04/05/17 07:13 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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This Is EXACTLY Who Was Behind Susan Rice’s Unmasking Order



Kimberly Morin reports that it was probably no surprise to find out Obama’s failed national security adviser Susan Rice is somehow behind the unmasking of Trump transition team members. Rice is known for lying on demand with a straight face.

It seems that more and more keeps coming out about Rice’s involvement with the entire debacle that began as an investigation to see if Russia interfered in the presidential election, but has turned into a three-ring circus. It seems Democrats are actually the ring leaders of this circus, not Putin.


The Daily Caller is reporting that Rice actually asked for and kept a detailed spreadsheet of phone calls intercepted between Trump and foreign nationals:

“What was produced by the intelligence community at the request of Ms. Rice were detailed spreadsheets of intercepted phone calls with unmasked Trump associates in perfectly legal conversations with individuals,” diGenova told The Daily Caller News Foundation Investigative Group Monday.

“The overheard conversations involved no illegal activity by anybody of the Trump associates, or anyone they were speaking with,” diGenova said. “In short, the only apparent illegal activity was the unmasking of the people in the calls.”

Other official sources with direct knowledge and who requested anonymity confirmed to TheDCNF diGenova’s description of surveillance reports Rice ordered one year before the 2016 presidential election.

It appears, if these reports are correct, that the Obama Administration was literally ‘spying’ on the Trump campaign much longer than previously thought. Sure, Trump wasn’t the intended target (wink, wink, nod, nod), but the results of the surveillance of foreign nationals seemed to provide information specifically regarding Trump; the Trump campaign and the Trump transition team.

The question is why? It obviously did nothing to benefit Hillary Clinton or help her win, although that may have been the original intent. And remember, innocent Americans are supposed to be protected, not unmasked for the entire intelligence community to see.

If all these reports are true and verifiable with internal government sources, how is it that people haven’t already been arrested, especially Susan Rice?

Democrats have continually tried to make claims about ‘Russian interference,’ but it seems like the only actual interference has come from the Democrat party and their partners in crime, the lame stream media.
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#1497413 --- 04/05/17 07:32 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: cwjga]
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A little premature here son, I'll go on the headline forum and use the same tactics you're utilizing. A utter failure in life seems to follow you at every turn, why? Life dealt you a few lemons and it shows even though we can't see your face. Why no education, decent job or lifestyle? We can blame it on your lack of personal responsibility which is the ploy of most Conservatives, blame everyone else on the failures of life. Why are you relegated to come here to detract from the impending findings on Trump and his surrogates and must at every venue attempt to change the subject on the current turn of event? Trump is being investigated, not Susan Rice. In the future, if she or others are involved, so be it but for NOW, Trump is one one in the spotlight but but but but, this is your daunting problem, you're scared shi&*%$# that more than likely ,the man committed several crimes.
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#1497414 --- 04/05/17 07:50 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Formermac]
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I'll ask several hypothetical questions, why did Trump lose the general election by 3 million votes? Why is it now a huge problem at the hands of the Republicans to find out the facts on Russian collusion? We know, if its' discovered that there was actually intervention, how far up the ladder does the finding go? All signs highlights the possibility that there was actually manipulation of voting machines in swing states and we know what that means, a repeat of 2 prior elections where Bush never won but relied on dishonesty to garner a win. Imagine the embarrassment when all this comes out, not to mention those that will be prosecuted? wink
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#1497422 --- 04/05/17 09:02 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Better question son, how many crimes will be levied altogether irrespective of what you think? This is the reason that you are encumbered to frantically respond at every opportunity, falsely believing that your defense here on the forum will make a big difference but when you wake up to reality, Trump's fate is in the hands of the Intel committee....but that's your insurmountable Nemesis isn't it? wink

"but when you wake up to reality, Trump's fate is in the hands of the Intel committee."

Maybe you should take your own advise, and wakeup, because that same intel-apparatus is what's going to bury Mr. Obama.
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#1497423 --- 04/05/17 09:15 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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That my premise son, one of living a realistic world (me) rather than the one of where you have pretend to own a house, a well paying job with great benefits, a loving wife and great family. See son, irrespective of your spouting off in a pretentious way, I need only to relax and enjoy my surrounding. wink
Btw, did I tell you that life offered me a freer ability to move about and now once the doctors reactivate my licence, I can resume driving, tell me, seeing that you supposedly have those freedom, why are you here? You don't have to say a thing, a little birdie told me that "THIS IS YOUR LIFE" rather pathetic if I must say so.
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#1497424 --- 04/05/17 09:17 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Better question son, how many crimes will be levied altogether irrespective of what you think? This is the reason that you are encumbered to frantically respond at every opportunity, falsely believing that your defense here on the forum will make a big difference but when you wake up to reality, Trump's fate is in the hands of the Intel committee....but that's your insurmountable Nemesis isn't it? wink

"but when you wake up to reality, Trump's fate is in the hands of the Intel committee."

Maybe you should take your own advise, and wakeup, because that same intel-apparatus is what's going to bury Mr. Obama.


In your dreams Tommyboy.

Keep choking that chicken.
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#1497425 --- 04/05/17 09:25 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Teonan]
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Yes Sir, he's choked it to the extent that, life was gone out of it years ago. Everyone here for the most part has earned a retirement or pension and if they sit on their duff all day long, they've earned it but Tommy boy avoids conversation when asked of the reason for his wallowing around with no intentions of doing nothing but lie and attempt countless diversionary tactics.
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#1497427 --- 04/05/17 10:28 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Teonan]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Better question son, how many crimes will be levied altogether irrespective of what you think? This is the reason that you are encumbered to frantically respond at every opportunity, falsely believing that your defense here on the forum will make a big difference but when you wake up to reality, Trump's fate is in the hands of the Intel committee....but that's your insurmountable Nemesis isn't it? wink

"but when you wake up to reality, Trump's fate is in the hands of the Intel committee."

Maybe you should take your own advise, and wakeup, because that same intel-apparatus is what's going to bury Mr. Obama.


In your dreams Tommyboy.

Keep choking that chicken.



"Keep choking that chicken."


What's that suppose to mean?
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#1497428 --- 04/05/17 10:42 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Yes Sir, he's choked it to the extent that, life was gone out of it years ago. Everyone here for the most part has earned a retirement or pension and if they sit on their duff all day long, they've earned it but Tommy boy avoids conversation when asked of the reason for his wallowing around with no intentions of doing nothing but lie and attempt countless diversionary tactics.


"Everyone here for the most part has earned a retirement or pension"

Really!

How would you know what someone earns, or earned, and how do you know, I sat on my "duff" all day long?

You have "NO IDEA" what kind of work I do, or did do?
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#1497430 --- 04/05/17 10:54 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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I don't know you personally son but 4 forum poster apparently hates your guts for the fact that PMs are quite revealing, imagine 4 people willing to out you for what reason? explain? it is for the fact that you're a very personable guy, who post intelligent and factual responses?
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#1497431 --- 04/05/17 10:57 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Formermac]
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Like I stated before, I've never observed someone so thin skinned but when on the attack, they have no reservation whatsoever about other's reputation. A Trump surrogate you truly are, a bull dog with no teeth and will derail the topic so they can defend themselves. grin
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#1497437 --- 04/05/17 11:54 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Back to the subject:

by ANDREW C. MCCARTHY April 4, 2017 12:08 PM @ANDREWCMCCARTHY
Her interest was not in national security but to advance the political interests of the Democratic party.

The thing to bear in mind is that the White House does not do investigations. Not criminal investigations, not intelligence investigations.

Remember that.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/44...ion-fbi-cia-nsa

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#1497438 --- 04/05/17 12:02 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Teonan]
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Originally Posted By: luckyduck
BREAKING!!!

Susan Rices' husband is?????

Nevermind, nothing to see here.


Backpeddling from the brink of a fool's freefall. Wise decision duckster.



Funny how the idiots only submit columns of opinion.
In the mind of a dullard conservative, this a just as credible as fact.
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#1497439 --- 04/05/17 12:02 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Formermac]
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Like I stated before, I've never observed someone so thin skinned but when on the attack, they have no reservation whatsoever about other's reputation. A Trump surrogate you truly are, a bull dog with no teeth and will derail the topic so they can defend themselves. grin


Mastering a keypad is his crowning achievement. Expecting more than a stream of disjointed, knee-jerk non-responses is evolutionary dependent - unfortunately.
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#1497453 --- 04/05/17 05:49 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Originally Posted By: Teonan
Originally Posted By: luckyduck
BREAKING!!!

Susan Rices' husband is?????

Nevermind, nothing to see here.


Backpeddling from the brink of a fool's freefall. Wise decision duckster.



Funny how the idiots only submit columns of opinion.
In the mind of a dullard conservative, this a just as credible as fact.



...name calling is all you have.
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#1497455 --- 04/05/17 06:00 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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If you choose to state that a buffoon, ignoramus and fool should be called a stately & intelligent gentleman, you won't get it from me. Tell us tommy, what do you call a individual such as yourself who acts adolescent, immature and rather uneducated? Give a replacement name and I'll use it. Remember, you must submit an accurate assessment, no make believe name is accepted. grin


Can I add the fact that thin skinned makes for a poor tool in serious rebuttal.......sniveling weakling is another attribute you possess.
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#1497457 --- 04/05/17 06:07 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Formermac]
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You call a former POTUS and his Ambassador criminals but get ultra sensitive and defensive when you're called a name........yes you're that stupid. wink
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#1497458 --- 04/05/17 06:14 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
...name calling is all you have.

Can you think of a more APT description of someone knowingly trying to pass off baseless opinion as if it were fact?

One would have to be an idiot (or a dullard) to NOT understand the critical difference between 'opinion' and 'fact'.

It's nothin' personal.


https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/opinion
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/fact
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/idiot
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/dullard
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#1497459 --- 04/05/17 06:23 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Timbo]
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Timbo, you and Teonan are quite proficient in articulating rebuttal in a scholarly form. Give us a dissertation on a particular personality types that boastfully call people crooks, liars, unethical or otherwise dishonest but when you call them a "Doodyhead" they go all moist on you. smile
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#1497460 --- 04/05/17 06:24 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
I don't know you personally son but, imagine 4 people willing to out you for what reason? explain? it is for the fact that you're a very personable guy, who post intelligent and factual responses?



"4 forum poster apparently hates your guts for the fact that PMs are quite revealing"

Really!

I'm not sure if I'll be able to sleep tonight!

Four posters "HATE MY GUTS", and they're burning-up your PM Massager.

It saddens me that you would say such a thing.
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#1497461 --- 04/05/17 06:27 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Formermac]
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May I add that our conversation in this thread are off based and unrelated to the headline news but attempting to get said ignorant person (Tommy) to understand that he has not the right to hijack the topic for his own selfish unstable appetite.

Note the last post, more evident to what I just stated. Thank you Tommy.


Edited by Formermac (04/05/17 06:28 PM)
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#1497462 --- 04/05/17 06:30 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
If you choose to state that a buffoon, ignoramus and fool should be called a stately & intelligent gentleman, you won't get it from me. Tell us tommy, what do you call a individual such as yourself who acts adolescent, immature and rather uneducated? Give a replacement name and I'll use it. Remember, you must submit an accurate assessment, no make believe name is accepted. grin


Can I add the fact that thin skinned makes for a poor tool in serious rebuttal.......sniveling weakling is another attribute you possess.



WOW! You really are full of hate!
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#1497464 --- 04/05/17 06:35 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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If I were, I wouldn't have such great friends, neighbors and former co workers, it's your lying and ignorance that makes you the complete opposite of me. The hate you see is your reflection son. I also see a babbling weakling who changes the thread and makes the entire topic an self absorbed crying session. Hey I thought that this was a BREAKING NEWS thread? cry
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#1497470 --- 04/05/17 07:30 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
If I were, I wouldn't have such great friends, neighbors and former co workers, it's your lying and ignorance that makes you the complete opposite of me. The hate you see is your reflection son. I also see a babbling weakling who changes the thread and makes the entire topic an self absorbed crying session. Hey I thought that this was a BREAKING NEWS thread? cry



"Hey I thought that this was a BREAKING NEWS thread?"

But you keep berating me, and then when your finished with your foul tempered tantrum, you remind me to stay on topic.

That's all you do is highjack threads, and troll for your jolly's !
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#1497473 --- 04/05/17 07:54 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: Formermac
If I were, I wouldn't have such great friends, neighbors and former co workers, it's your lying and ignorance that makes you the complete opposite of me. The hate you see is your reflection son. I also see a babbling weakling who changes the thread and makes the entire topic an self absorbed crying session. Hey I thought that this was a BREAKING NEWS thread? cry



"Hey I thought that this was a BREAKING NEWS thread?"

But you keep berating me, and then when your finished with your foul tempered tantrum, you remind me to stay on topic.

That's all you do is highjack threads, and troll for your jolly's !


Wassamatter Tom. Unable to follow the scent of your own urine trail?

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#1497476 --- 04/05/17 08:57 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Fact Checkers Disappear With Susan Rice Incident


by Christopher R Barron

Probably the single most corrosive development in modern media is the one that sounds the best – the fact checker. Who could disagree with the idea that while we are all entitled to our own opinion, we aren’t entitled to our own set of facts? What could possibly go wrong when the mainstream media puts an emphasis on finding the truth?

Well, it turns out, plenty could wrong.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/04/fact-checkers-disappear-with-susan-rice-incident/#ixzz4dQk4bxCV
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#1497478 --- 04/06/17 01:28 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker


Fact Checkers Disappear With Susan Rice Incident


by Christopher R Barron

Probably the single most corrosive development in modern media is the one that sounds the best – the fact checker. Who could disagree with the idea that while we are all entitled to our own opinion, we aren’t entitled to our own set of facts? What could possibly go wrong when the mainstream media puts an emphasis on finding the truth?

Well, it turns out, plenty could wrong.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/04/fact-checkers-disappear-with-susan-rice-incident/#ixzz4dQk4bxCV

After having read the entire article linked above, allow me to apply and old maxim...

"I am now LESS intelligent for having done so."
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#1497485 --- 04/06/17 07:08 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: Formermac
If you choose to state that a buffoon, ignoramus and fool should be called a stately & intelligent gentleman, you won't get it from me. Tell us tommy, what do you call a individual such as yourself who acts adolescent, immature and rather uneducated? Give a replacement name and I'll use it. Remember, you must submit an accurate assessment, no make believe name is accepted. grin


Can I add the fact that thin skinned makes for a poor tool in serious rebuttal.......sniveling weakling is another attribute you possess.



WOW! You really are full of hate!






Sad that Mac is the only person that does not see it.
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#1497486 --- 04/06/17 07:14 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Susan Rice's Domestic Spying is a National Security Nightmare
Mark Davis


What a fitting cherry atop the Barack Obama legacy of eroding American safety: it turns out his National Security advisor was rifling through countless conversations that just happened to involve private citizens, in a quest to block Donald Trump’s path to the presidency.

I know Susan Rice’s story is that sure, there was unmasking but she in no way leaked details in an attempt to harm Trump. We can all evaluate how credible that is, coming from a woman who lied about Benghazi in service to an administration that mobilized the IRS against conservatives. But as we prepare for her testimony under oath about these matters, we must realize that political mischief is not the worst element of this story.

The fact is that if Susan Rice and others in the Obama White House were vacuuming up every piece of intel they could find about the Trump team and Russia (or anybody else for that matter), the election-year dirty tricks pale in comparison to the profound damage these stunts would inflict on our entire national security landscape.

Has anyone noticed that President Trump inherited a shockingly dangerous world? Energized by eight years of Obama inattention, the Syrian government is gassing its own citizenry while North Korea hones the skill set to lob a warhead beyond its own territorial waters. It is at times like these that we need maximum trust in the heroes toiling in the mines of detailed surveillance. Since 9/11, countless Americans have racked up equally countless hours looking for connections among quintillions of little data dots representing moments of behavior that might be a gateway to the discovery of the next terror attack.



Those of us who support those practices have had to push back against the skepticism of voices who believe that surveillance by the NSA, CIA and others is a privacy nightmare, featuring layers of incursions into our personal business.

No, we have insisted, these professionals deserve to be trusted. Nobody at NSA headquarters is listening to you plan a vacation visit to your Aunt Ruth.

Libertarians and others have maintained some hostility to the surveillance that keeps us safe, arguing that the trade-off is not worth it, that surely government cannot be trusted with such a task indefinitely.

And now we get this.

The Susan Rice fishing expedition in search of dirt on Trump impugns no Americans involved in the daily toil of watching the world for signs of danger. But it surely creates a fog of doubt around the politicians who have access to those mountains of intel.

This is a lousy time for erosion of faith in the hierarchy we will need moving forward to monitor what the Assads and Kims and other murderous despots around the world might have in mind for America and our allies. Anything that makes Americans turn sour on intelligence-gathering is an obstacle to a safer nation.

We can cling to the comfort that Obama is no longer President, and that Rice can no longer do his bidding. But once we learn the lengths and depths of her malicious curiosities, the damage may well be done, in the form of Americans who flip a switch and harbor broad doubts about whether surveillance and monitoring are worth it if private citizens are going to be unmasked, their names leaked to newspapers on a partisan whim.

We may enjoy an administration that will not abuse those powers for the next four or eight years, but who knows what will follow? We are eternally one election away from the re-installation of scoundrels who will view intel as free customized opposition research during election years.

The noble Americans who work every day to keep us safe deserve our respect and our trust. And they deserve better than to have that trust skewered by this infuriating story of a White House that viewed them as weapons to be deployed against political enemies.
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#1497487 --- 04/06/17 07:20 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: cwjga]
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What's really sad is a few welfare recipients here have nothing better to do but come here everyday and do what? They act similar to a contagious disease, know no barrier, no form of decorum, common sense and notably, can't distinguish a cartoon thread from World News thus the reason that no forum thread is sacred to their mental degradation or lack of decency. Note who is continually taking their personal issues to a site dedicated to national issue. Yes they are just that stupid and thin skinned. whistle

Maybe we'll get back to more important issues once they grow a set.
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#1497488 --- 04/06/17 07:26 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
...name calling is all you have.

Can you think of a more APT description of someone knowingly trying to pass off baseless opinion as if it were fact?

One would have to be an idiot (or a dullard) to NOT understand the critical difference between 'opinion' and 'fact'.

It's nothin' personal.


https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/opinion
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/fact
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/idiot
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/dullard



We have entered the world of "The Twilight Zone" Trump is a great POTUS, if you're a known sexual predator, you're a great guy, the fact that the FBI and Intel community are on your tail means nothing but in the mean time play McCarthyism by casually throwing out a few name when they're breathing down your neck. When all else fails.....lie your blank off. wink



http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/surveillance-experts-swat-down-susan-rice-unmasking-hysteria


http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/...der-ctn-sot.cnn


http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/06/middleeast/syria-idlib-chemical-attack/index.html

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#1497496 --- 04/06/17 03:22 PM BREAKING: CIA Director John Brennan Targeted General Flynn and Sean Hannity For Surveillance [Re: ThomasDecker]
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BREAKING: CIA Director John Brennan Targeted General Flynn and Sean Hannity For Surveillance

Cristina Laila Apr 5th, 2017 7:58 pm Leave a Comment

Yesterday, we reported on a breaking story by GotNews that Sean Hannity and Blackwater founder, Erik Prince were also spied on and unmasked by the Obama administration.

GotNews has just revealed that it was Obama’s CIA Director, John Brennan who was targeting them and other Trump supporters for surveillance.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/...y-surveillance/
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#1497497 --- 04/06/17 03:48 PM Re: BREAKING: CIA Director John Brennan Targeted General Flynn and Sean Hannity For Surveillance [Re: ThomasDecker]
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ROTFLMAO, breaking news? more than likely everyday surveillance. it's odd that not one dullard conservative spoke out when Trump signed an executive order which gives your ISP the right to sell your personal data. TWC or Frontier in your area will have the right to tell your local school that you look at lewd pictures of teen girls or you have a propensity to download sexually graphic picture, all done in a totally legal manner. What part don't you comprehend? you talk to a foreigner, more than likely you're under surveillance....LEGALLY, which is the problem mentally slow Republicans have difficulty understanding.


http://nypost.com/2017/03/28/internet-providers-closer-to-selling-customers-private-info/
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#1497498 --- 04/06/17 05:13 PM Re: BREAKING: CIA Director John Brennan Targeted General Flynn and Sean Hannity For Surveillance [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Intelligence Reports in Unmasking Scandal Resembled Private Investigator’s File, Had Info About ‘Everyday Lives’




Cristina Laila Apr 5th, 2017 9:35 pm

New details are emerging regarding the unmasking of Trump and his private associates by former National Security Advisor, Susan Rice and others in the Obama administration. The reports were very detailed and tracked the everyday lives of private citizens.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/...everyday-lives/
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#1497499 --- 04/06/17 05:34 PM Re: BREAKING: CIA Director John Brennan Targeted General Flynn and Sean Hannity For Surveillance [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Gateway Pundit!!!!!!!!

Mainstream breaking news!!!!!!

yes you've heard it from the best. grin


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#1497507 --- 04/07/17 07:53 AM Re: BREAKING: CIA Director John Brennan Targeted General Flynn and Sean Hannity For Surveillance [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Another great Susan Rice quote:

"We were able to get the Syrian government to voluntarily and verifiably give up its chemical weapons stockpile."

From her January interview with NPR.

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#1497510 --- 04/07/17 08:06 AM Re: BREAKING: CIA Director John Brennan Targeted General Flynn and Sean Hannity For Surveillance [Re: luckyduck]
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How do you know when you've gotten under a thin skinned buffoon, they get up early to respond with more buffoonery.Must have worried about my intelligent response AAAAALLLLLL NIIIGGGGGHHHHHTTTTT LLLLLOOOOONNNNGGGG.
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#1497513 --- 04/07/17 08:18 AM Re: BREAKING: CIA Director John Brennan Targeted General Flynn and Sean Hannity For Surveillance [Re: Formermac]
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Well, when I see an intelligent response from you I will certainly let you know if it worries me or not. And by the way, this is certainly not early in my book.

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#1497514 --- 04/07/17 08:20 AM Re: BREAKING: CIA Director John Brennan Targeted General Flynn and Sean Hannity For Surveillance [Re: luckyduck]
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Exactly son , that's what I stated a few minutes ago, see how easily a buffoon gets off topic. Like taking candy from a buffoon.

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#1497515 --- 04/07/17 08:22 AM Re: BREAKING: CIA Director John Brennan Targeted General Flynn and Sean Hannity For Surveillance [Re: Formermac]
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Just think, you were on topic for a few minutes.
BREAKING: CIA Director John Brennan Targeted General Flynn and Sean Hannity For Surveillance


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#1497555 --- 04/08/17 08:54 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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#1497557 --- 04/08/17 09:05 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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I see another Iraq debacle wherein a hasty decision will turn into a drawn out huge mistake which cost the lives of thousands of US military personnel.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/...trike-in-syria/
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#1497566 --- 04/08/17 09:30 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac

I see another Iraq debacle wherein a hasty decision will turn into a drawn out huge mistake which cost the lives of thousands of US military personnel.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/...trike-in-syria/



Take your own advice and "stay on topic".

This thread is about Susan Rice spying on the American.
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#1497570 --- 04/08/17 09:40 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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ROTFLMAO, I see now that you're a tad bit smarter than I gave you credit for, you do recognize an off topic post, tell us....why do you go off 98 out of 100 and only mention a topic when you're reminded that you foolishly "Got off topic"? crazy
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#1497578 --- 04/08/17 11:47 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: Formermac
I see another Iraq debacle wherein a hasty decision will turn into a drawn out huge mistake which cost the lives of thousands of US military personnel.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/...trike-in-syria/

Take your own advice and "stay on topic".

This thread is about Susan Rice spying on the American.

This thread is about you and others on "the right" fabricating a false narrative ABOUT Ms. Rice.

Therefore, ALL bets are off, Junior.
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#1497582 --- 04/08/17 12:08 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: Formermac
I see another Iraq debacle wherein a hasty decision will turn into a drawn out huge mistake which cost the lives of thousands of US military personnel.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/...trike-in-syria/

Take your own advice and "stay on topic".

This thread is about Susan Rice spying on the American.

This thread is about you and others on "the right" fabricating a false narrative ABOUT Ms. Rice.

Therefore, ALL bets are off, Junior.


"fabricating a false narrative ABOUT Ms. Rice"

Wishful thinking on your part.

The Rice Spying scandal will make Watergate look like a Nursery school caper.
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#1497585 --- 04/08/17 01:29 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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I'll be sure to mark those words, because they, like all your other scurrilous falsehoods, will inevitably hit the floor like a dead cat.

Your worst enemy is your own words. Otherwise, you would have already provided actual substantiable evidence to support your pathological use of opinion [propaganda] over fact.

Oh, the delicious irony.
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#1497586 --- 04/08/17 01:45 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo

I'll be sure to mark those words, because they, like all your other scurrilous falsehoods, will inevitably hit the floor like a dead cat.

Your worst enemy is your own words.



Your worst enemy is yourself.
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#1497587 --- 04/08/17 01:48 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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DRAT! Foiled by your deft application of the classic "I know you are, but what am I" gambit. crazy crazy crazy
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#1497588 --- 04/08/17 02:09 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: Timbo

I'll be sure to mark those words, because they, like all your other scurrilous falsehoods, will inevitably hit the floor like a dead cat.

Your worst enemy is your own words.

Your worst enemy is yourself.

See... I knew you couldn't produce any evidence to support your Bull-Spit assertions.

Otherwise, you wouldn't have edited my above comments predicting as much.


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Here's the original post in it's original, unexpurgated form below (highlighted for clarity):

I'll be sure to mark those words, because they, like all your other scurrilous falsehoods, will inevitably hit the floor like a dead cat.

Your worst enemy is your own words. Otherwise, you would have already provided actual substantiable evidence to support your pathological use of opinion [propaganda] over fact.

Oh, the delicious irony.
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#1497591 --- 04/08/17 02:27 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: Timbo

I'll be sure to mark those words, because they, like all your other scurrilous falsehoods, will inevitably hit the floor like a dead cat.

Your worst enemy is your own words.

Your worst enemy is yourself.

See... I knew you couldn't produce any evidence to support your Bull-Spit assertions.

Otherwise, you wouldn't have edited my above comments predicting as much.


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Here's the original post in it's original, unexpurgated form below (highlighted for clarity):

I'll be sure to mark those words, because they, like all your other scurrilous falsehoods, will inevitably hit the floor like a dead cat.

Your worst enemy is your own words. Otherwise, you would have already provided actual substantiable evidence to support your pathological use of opinion [propaganda] over fact.

Oh, the delicious irony.
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It not an opinion that Ms. Rice unmasked President Trump, it's a fact!
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#1497593 --- 04/08/17 02:37 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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It not an opinion that Ms. Rice unmasked President Trump, it's a fact!

Context is EVERYTHING (otherwise known as "Google is your Friend").

https://www.wired.com/2017/04/sorry-susan-rice-not-smoking-gun/
http://www.vox.com/world/2017/4/4/15177640/susan-rice-unmasking
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#1497594 --- 04/08/17 02:46 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
It not an opinion that Ms. Rice unmasked President Trump, it's a fact!

Context is EVERYTHING (otherwise known as "Google is your Friend").

https://www.wired.com/2017/04/sorry-susan-rice-not-smoking-gun/
http://www.vox.com/world/2017/4/4/15177640/susan-rice-unmasking



Yours sources are skewed leftwing propaganda sites!


But hey, you keep making your facts up as you go along, I hope it "helps you" cope with your life.
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#1497595 --- 04/08/17 03:29 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Yours sources are skewed leftwing propaganda sites!

So you claim.

Now's your opportunity to provide once-an-for-all, all your incontravertable evidence conclusively debunking these 'sources' as you so inaccurately refer to them.

Or will you simply roll-over and validate the fact that you're full of it?
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#1497596 --- 04/08/17 04:25 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Yours sources are skewed leftwing propaganda sites!

So you claim.

Now's your opportunity to provide once-an-for-all, all your incontravertable evidence conclusively debunking these 'sources' as you so inaccurately refer to them.

Or will you simply roll-over and validate the fact that you're full of it?
whistle



O h...s t o p...t i m b o. You...know... it...happened!

Investigations aren't run out the White House by The National Security Adviser.
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#1497597 --- 04/08/17 05:39 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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As I said... you have nothing.
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#1497599 --- 04/08/17 05:54 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo

As I said... you have nothing.




I get what your saying, Mr. Obama is out of the country, wait until he returns so he could be charged with treason!
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#1497605 --- 04/08/17 06:32 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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O h...s t o p...t i m b o. You...know... it...happened!

Allow me to reintroduce the FACTS:

Originally Posted By: Timbo

The right wing media attacks on Susan Rice are absurd:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plu...m=.f5fd95975aa6


If you’re an ally (let alone an employee) of Donald Trump, the ever-widening Russia scandal has to have been disheartening. Nearly everyone agrees that the Russian government actively attempted to aid Trump’s presidential campaign, which might be possible to explain away as not Donald Trump’s fault, were it not for the fact that so many of his aides and associates have ties of one form or another to Russia, as does the president himself. So with each new revelation or phase of the investigation, the questions get more and more uncomfortable.

Which is why conservatives have been waiting so desperately for something, ANYTHING they can use to turn the story around to their advantage, no matter how ludicrous the arguments they make might be. And now they’ve found it.

And boy, are those arguments ever ludicrous. At this moment, the right wing media is going bonkers over reports that Susan Rice, who was national security adviser at the time, in 2016 requested the “unmasking” of certain U.S. persons who had been picked up in surveillance of foreign intelligence targets. Because those persons turned out to be associates of Donald Trump, conservatives have managed to twist this into the allegation that the Obama administration was “spying” on Trump and his campaign. Over at foxnews.com I count 11 separate articles about Rice on the home page. You can find similar screaming headlines at Breitbart, the Daily Caller, and all the other conservative sites — and don’t ask what’s happening on Twitter (if you want to get a taste of the lunacy, search #SusanRice).

Why the gleeful eruption of accusations? Certain conservative media already had their basic storyline, which is that the problem isn’t Russian meddling in our election, the problem is that somebody revealed Russian meddling in our election. That’s why, along with President Trump, they’re so outraged (or are at least pretending to be outraged) about leaks of the various investigations. But what they lacked was a single villain, and now they have one, someone they hated already and on whom they can focus all their considerable venom.

This afternoon on MSNBC, Rice responded to the allegations. She said, “The allegation that somehow Obama administration officials utilized intelligence for political purposes, that’s absolutely false,” adding that “I leaked nothing to nobody, and never have and never would.”

While Rice answered most of Mitchell’s questions in general terms, we need to go over this as carefully as we can, to make clear a simple point. Based on what we know so far, Susan Rice not only didn’t do anything wrong, she did exactly what we would expect of a national security adviser. Indeed, it would have been alarming if she didn’t do what we’re hearing she did.

We start with a report yesterday from Bloomberg’s Eli Lake, who was told by sources in the Trump administration that “former national security adviser Susan Rice requested the identities of U.S. persons in raw intelligence reports on dozens of occasions that connect to the Donald Trump transition and campaign.” This is referred to as “unmasking,” since ordinarily, when a U.S. person is picked up in surveillance of a foreign intelligence target, their identity is masked out of privacy concerns. For instance, the NSA might be recording the phone calls of the Russian ambassador, and if he calls an American friend and has an innocuous conversation, the identity of the American will be masked.

It’s important to understand that “unmasking” doesn’t mean making the name public, or even making the name widely available to officials inside the government. It means that the official who made the request gets to see the name. High-ranking American officials can and do request the unmasking of U.S. persons in these reports if it’s relevant to national security. As Lake himself wrote: “The standard for senior officials to learn the names of U.S. persons incidentally collected is that it must have some foreign intelligence value, a standard that can apply to almost anything. This suggests Rice’s unmasking requests were likely within the law.”

But it goes even farther than that. If Rice saw a report on conversations with foreign intelligence targets (whom we’re assuming are Russians, though we don’t yet know for sure) with the identities of the U.S. persons redacted, the content of those conversations had to have given her some reason for concern, something that suggested it would be important to know who those U.S. persons were. It wasn’t a random fishing expedition that just happened to land on associates of Donald Trump. If Rice saw a report saying that a Russian intelligence target “Placed call to U.S PERSON 1 and inquired as to when his dry cleaning would be ready,” she wouldn’t have cared who that person was, and she wouldn’t have requested the unmasking to find out.

Yet conservatives are trying to convince people that the Obama administration set out to spy on the Trump team, an allegation for which there is zero evidence. Senator Rand Paul tweeted, “Smoking gun found! Obama pal and noted dissembler Susan Rice said to have been spying on Trump campaign.” Fox’s Tucker Carlson said to his audience, “What exactly were the Obama people doing spying on the Trump people?”, adding that “Our laws currently provide no serious protection to U.S. citizens from being spied upon for political reasons by their own government, and worse, it actually happens. In fact, it just happened, and that is the scandal here.”

We can have a debate about the scope of the NSA’s surveillance authority, but we have to be clear about this: Susan Rice couldn’t have known that the foreign intelligence targets were speaking to Trump associates when she made the unmasking request, because their identities were masked. Unmasking enabled her to find out who they were. I suppose it’s possible that the content of the conversations made it obvious that the foreign intelligence target was speaking with a Trump associate, but at a time when the government was investigating Russian efforts to subvert our election, that would have made it even more urgent to know which Americans they were talking to.

It isn’t just that Rice’s effort to fully understand what was passing back and forth between foreign intelligence targets and Trump associates was legal, though it was, or that it was appropriate, though it was. It was more than that: it was absolutely critical. Indeed, it would have been a shocking dereliction of duty if she hadn’t.

What conservatives are really saying is that the national security adviser, knowing that Russia was undertaking what amounts to an assault on the American political system, shouldn’t have tried to learn all she can about what it involves. If she got a report about foreign intelligence targets talking to Americans, and the content of those conversations was enough to raise alarms, she should have just put it in a drawer and not asked anuestions.

When you see conservatives screaming about Susan Rice and accusing her of all manner of nefarious deeds, keep in mind what their goal is: to distract from the inquiry into whether Trump and his associates may have cooperated with Russia in their meddling in our election. That's what they’re after.
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#1497606 --- 04/08/17 07:03 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Timbo]
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plu...m=.f5fd95975aa6




Okay, so now you're quoting a blogs, and you called me ignorant!
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#1497608 --- 04/08/17 10:43 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Ignorant, correct. I've already taken the responsibility to verify the accuracy of these statements for myself. I suggest YOU do the same.

Take responsibility FOR your ignorance (lack of knowledge). I owe you no such education on these matters.

The FACTS are no further away than the keyboard you use to publicly luxuriate in the very same ignorance you undeservedly take offense to being called-out on.

Crap, "Jack"... you can't even admit that not a single law was broken and that she was presicely following the duties of her job title.

Grow up.
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#1497612 --- 04/09/17 08:24 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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I understand the left is doing everything in there power to bury this crime, and news story by Ms. Rice & Mr. Obama!

Oh, by the way, "Jack" is the other guy, you know who he is, I'm not him, nor would I want to be him...

Take your own advise, and grow up.
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#1497615 --- 04/09/17 08:44 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/170406-LetterAdamSchiffEthicsComplaint3.pdf



April 6, 2017
Honorable
Susan W. Brooks
Chairwoman
Committee on Ethics
U.S. House of Representatives
1015 Longworth House Office Building (LHOB)
Washington, D.C.
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Fax: 202-225-7392
Re: Ethics
Complaint against
Rep. Adam Schiff
Honorable
Chairwoman Brooks:
On behalf of Freedom Watch, I hereby file this complaint against Congressman Adam Schiff,
Ranking Member of the House Intelligence Committee, and request an investigation of these
facts and circumstances by the
Committee, with appropriate and strong remedies to follow.
The U.S. House of Representatives "Code of Ethics for Government Service" 72 Stat., Part 2
B12 (1958), H. Con. Res. 175, 85th Congress, requires that:
Any person in Government service should


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#1497621 --- 04/09/17 04:12 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker

I understand the left is doing everything in there power to bury this crime, and news story by Ms. Rice & Mr. Obama!

And just which alleged 'crime' are you referring to... specifically? crazy
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#1497634 --- 04/10/17 04:41 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker

I understand the left is doing everything in there power to bury this crime, and news story by Ms. Rice & Mr. Obama!

And just which alleged 'crime' are you referring to... specifically? crazy




I stand corrected.

At this time, Ms. Rice may not have committed a crime!

But that doesn't mean Ms. Rice, won't get charged with a crime.
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#1497639 --- 04/10/17 11:00 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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At this time, Ms. Rice may not have committed a crime!

But that doesn't mean Ms. Rice, won't get charged with a crime.

You make Comrade Stalin Proud. eek
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#1497668 --- 04/11/17 09:46 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Timbo]
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#1497703 --- 04/12/17 05:17 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Donald Trump: ‘Nobody Believes’ Susan Rice


President Donald Trump dismissed Susan Rice’s assertion that she did not unmask General Michael Flynn for political reasons.

“Does anybody really believe that?” he asked during an interview with Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo. “Nobody believes that, even the people that try to protect her in the news media.”


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/12/donald-trump-nobody-believes-susan-rice/
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#1497704 --- 04/12/17 05:26 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Donald Trump: ‘Nobody Believes’ Susan Rice


President Donald Trump dismissed Susan Rice’s assertion that she did not unmask General Michael Flynn for political reasons.

“Does anybody really believe that?” he asked during an interview with Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo. “Nobody believes that, even the people that try to protect her in the news media.”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/12/donald-trump-nobody-believes-susan-rice/

The continuing litany of nonsense gleened from the liar-in-chief's quote mine. Seriously Tom?
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#1497705 --- 04/12/17 05:40 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Teonan]
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Who is "Nobody" in tommy's little mind? based on the turn of events in the last several days, Trump's credibility has taken another huge hit.



A few points on Trump's backpedaling


Breaking News!!! NATO is not, I repeat, NOT OBSOLETE!!!!
"China is not manipulating the market"
"Susan Rice committed an illegal search on me"
"relations with Russia is at an all time low"
Who authorize a FISA warrant against Carter Page?
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#1497720 --- 04/13/17 07:21 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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#1497757 --- 04/13/17 06:09 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: cwjga]
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Rice Probe: ‘This Is Now a Full-Blown Investigation’

BY: Charles Fain Lehman
April 13, 2017 The House and Senate Intelligence Committees are expanding their investigations into former National Security Adviser Susan Rice's alleged "unmasking" of U.S. persons who were incidentally collected in surveillance of foreign officials.

An unnamed member of the House Intelligence Committee confirmed that Rice is now under "a full-blown investigation," Fox News reported on Wednesday.


http://freebeacon.com/national-security/congress-rice-full-blown-investigation/
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#1497758 --- 04/13/17 06:17 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-rice-investigation_us_58e3fb77e4b0f4a923b2eb31

Reminder: Susan Rice Isn’t Under Investigation. Trump And His Team Are.
Republicans continue to be fixated with Susan Rice.
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#1497759 --- 04/13/17 06:32 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Susan Rice Did Nothing Wrong, Part the Millionth

Kevin Drum Blog
Apr. 13, 2017 2:13 PM

I missed this a couple of days ago, but Nancy LeTourneau alerts me to a recent CNN report about Susan Rice's requests to "unmask" the names of individuals in intelligence reports that she received when she was Obama's National Security Advisor. This was all part of the great Devin Nunes fiasco, where he went to the White House to read the reports, came back to Capitol Hill to hold a press conference, and then rushed back to the White House to tell President Trump all about it. But there's no there there:

After a review of the same intelligence reports brought to light by House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes, both Republican and Democratic lawmakers and aides have so far found no evidence that Obama administration officials did anything unusual or illegal....Over the last week, several members and staff of the House and Senate intelligence committees have reviewed intelligence reports related to those requests at NSA headquarters in Fort Meade, Maryland.

One congressional intelligence source described the requests made by Rice as "normal and appropriate" for officials who serve in that role to the president.

Fine. Susan Rice did nothing wrong. It's not as if we didn't know that already, but it's nice to see it confirmed. Rice must be getting really tired of being a handy Republican punching bag.



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#1497765 --- 04/13/17 09:22 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Teonan]
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Originally Posted By: Teonan


Susan Rice Did Nothing Wrong


Yeah, and Nixon did nothing wrong!
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#1497768 --- 04/14/17 07:12 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Nikki Haley Torches Russia Over UN Security Council Veto on Syria

Nice to have people with backbone back in charge. Betting Haley wont blame things on a video. grin


Edited by cwjga (04/14/17 07:13 AM)
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#1497769 --- 04/14/17 07:18 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: cwjga]
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Nikki Haley Torches Russia Over UN Security Council Veto on Syria

Nice to have people with backbone back in charge. Betting Haley wont blame things on a video. grin


"Nice to have people with backbone back in charge"

Yes it is.
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#1497774 --- 04/14/17 11:24 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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It's easy to have a so-called 'backbone' when you're not the one risking life and limb

Right, Chicken-Hawk?.
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#1497776 --- 04/14/17 12:31 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo

It's easy to have a so-called 'backbone' when you're not the one risking life and limb

Right, Chicken-Hawk?.



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#1497793 --- 04/15/17 06:26 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: Timbo

It's easy to have a so-called 'backbone' when you're not the one risking life and limb

Right, Chicken-Hawk?.



"Chicken-Hawk" is the bird on a sailor's sleeve!

B u s t e d. laugh

Jacked up - 100%. "Embrace the suck" Tom. grin
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#1497798 --- 04/16/17 01:00 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Teonan]
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grin
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#1497811 --- 04/16/17 10:43 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Timbo]
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Poor Tommyboy.

Bogusgrunt broke protocol of sanitizing his own trail.

Epic ineptitude for this MARSOC wannabe. Tsk tsk.
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#1497858 --- 04/17/17 04:52 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: Teonan]
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http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress...sm_npd_nn_tw_ma


Susan Rice Did Nothing Wrong, Say Both Dems and Republicans

by Ken Dilanian

A review of the surveillance material flagged by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes shows no inappropriate action by Susan Rice or any other Obama administration official, Republican and Democratic Congressional aides who have been briefed on the matter told NBC News.

President Donald Trump told the New York Times he believed former National Security Adviser Rice broke the law by asking for the identities of Trump aides who were mentioned in transcripts of U.S. surveillance of foreign targets. Normally, the identities of Americans are blacked out in transcripts circulated by the National Security Agency, but they may be "unmasked," if their identities are relevant to understanding the intelligence.

But current and former U.S. intelligence officials have said that any unmasking request by Rice would have been made to the NSA director or the FBI director, who would have the final say. Both men are still in their jobs under President Trump.

Current and former officials say it is routine, and not inappropriate, for the national security adviser to request the identities of Americans mentioned in intelligence reports.
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#1497997 --- 04/20/17 08:12 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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REPORT: John Brennan Colluded With Foreign Spies to Falsify Trump-Russia Connections



Lucian Wintrich Apr 19th, 2017

In a damning report originally stemming from the Guardian, and then picked up by the American Spectator, it has been confirmed that former CIA director John Brennan colluded with British and Estonian spies who sought to both to manufacture Trump-Russia ties and bring down Trump’s candidacy as a whole. Via The American Spectator:

Seeking to retain his position as CIA director under Hillary, Brennan teamed up with British spies and Estonian spies to cripple Trump’s candidacy. He used their phony intelligence as a pretext for a multi-agency investigation into Trump, which led the FBI to probe a computer server connected to Trump Tower and gave cover to Susan Rice, among other Hillary supporters, to spy on Trump and his people.
John Brennan’s CIA operated like a branch office of the Hillary campaign, leaking out mentions of this bogus investigation to the press in the hopes of inflicting maximum political damage on Trump. An official in the intelligence community tells TAS that Brennan’s retinue of political radicals didn’t even bother to hide their activism, decorating offices with “Hillary for president cups” and other campaign paraphernalia.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/...ia-connections/
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#1498466 --- 05/07/17 06:45 PM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Susan Rice Denies Senate Request To Testify In Hearing On Russian Election Interference



Susan Rice has denied a request to testify in front a Senate judiciary subcommittee next week on Russian interference in the U.S. presidential election.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/03/susan-...m_medium=Social
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#1498477 --- 05/08/17 02:27 AM Re: BREAKING: Susan Rice Preparing To Take Fall For Illegal Obama Spy Program? [Re: ThomasDecker]
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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/07/trump-health-care-russia-238086

President Donald Trump’s health care victory lap is already grinding to a halt.

After the White House's biggest legislative victory yet with the House’s narrow passage Thursday of the American Health Care Act, momentum will slow as the Senate settles in to rework the bill — potentially from scratch. The White House is also heading for a political buzzsaw as Russia’s election interference takes center stage in congressional hearings.

Former acting Attorney General Sally Yates heads to Capitol Hill on Monday to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee about former national security adviser Michael Flynn’s conversations with the Russian ambassador and her efforts to warn the Trump administration about Flynn’s changing story. The ex-adviser was already in the headlines after The Washington Post and Associated Press reported Friday that Flynn had been warned by transition officials about speaking to Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

Meanwhile, the health care bill that the White House spent the weekend celebrating appears destined for the trash can on the other side of the Capitol.

"First of all, the House bill is not going to come before us,” Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), a moderate who is emerging as a powerful voice in the health care fight, told ABC’s “This Week” on Sunday. "The Senate is starting from scratch. We're going to draft our own bill. And I'm convinced that we're going to take the time to do it right.”
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