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#1496346 --- 03/08/17 08:11 AM Re: New Budget [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: CityManager
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the 'kiosk' for the boat parking should have the user enter the last three digits of their boat trailer and it should be printed out on the parking ticket

that would keep the ticket from being used by another individual later in the day
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#1496351 --- 03/08/17 08:45 AM Re: New Budget [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: Tacitus
First Mr. Camera gouged us for sidewalk repairs, then he wanted to put chickens and composting next door, now he's upping what we will pay for trash pickup.


believe he wants you (taxpayers) to pay $60,000 to install sidewalks on gates avenue per the last council meeting

thought the property owners were responsible to pay for install/repairs of their sidewalks?
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#1496773 --- 03/19/17 10:44 AM Re: New Budget [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: Tacitus
First Mr. Camera gouged us for sidewalk repairs, then he wanted to put chickens and composting next door, now he's upping what we will pay for trash pickup.


did he get his sidewalks fixed?

google maps shows his sidewalk needs to be fixed (the image on google maps is a few years old)
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#1496774 --- 03/19/17 10:51 AM Re: New Budget [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: Tacitus
First Mr. Camera gouged us for sidewalk repairs, then he wanted to put chickens and composting next door, now he's upping what we will pay for trash pickup.


canandaigua taxpayers get 'free' trash pick up thru their taxes

he should either work to lower the taxes to cover the cost of yearly trash pick up or offer free trash pick up if the taxes remain at the current level

canandaigua taxpaying residents pay almost 3 times less in taxes and they still get 'free' trash pick up

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County of Ontario
Municipality Tax Rate
Per $1000 AV



City of Canandaigua 6.31
City of Geneva 18.29
Town of Canandaigua 1.15
Town of Victor 0.72
Village of Victor 4.23
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#1496775 --- 03/19/17 10:54 AM Re: New Budget [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: Tacitus
First Mr. Camera gouged us for sidewalk repairs, then he wanted to put chickens and composting next door, now he's upping what we will pay for trash pickup.


are there any trash eating chickens? grin
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#1496776 --- 03/19/17 11:02 AM Re: New Budget [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: CityManager
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the businesses that are invloved in the linden street closure should pay to have another standing mail box to be placed near the wheel chair ramp at city hall

people will be able to drive up to that mail box to mail their letters without getting out of their car

it should be placed at the southern end of the ramp

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#1498962 --- 05/18/17 07:10 AM Re: New Budget [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: Tacitus
First Mr. Camera gouged us for sidewalk repairs, then he wanted to put chickens and composting next door, now he's upping what we will pay for trash pickup.


seems a non resident non taxpayer went before council and complained that they do not want to pay the new fee to park and launch their boat

councilor camera wanted the fee lowered from $10 to $1

if a taxpaying resident complained about their high property taxes would councilor camera lower their taxes 10 fold?

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#1499203 --- 05/23/17 07:29 AM Re: New Budget [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: Tacitus
First Mr. Camera gouged us for sidewalk repairs, then he wanted to put chickens and composting next door, now he's upping what we will pay for trash pickup.


councilor camera wants to lower the parking and boat launch fee to a $1 for non residents/non taxpayers

wonder if councilor camera understands how much it costs to mow the 60 acres of lakefront, dredge the boat launch every year, trim the overgrowth, plant the trees, plow the parking lot in the wiinter, pave the parking area, pick up the litter, dispose of the litter, light the walk way...

bet it is far more than $1 whistle

howz about this councilor camera - only allow tax paying city residents to use the lake front afterall it is their taxes that pay for the upkeep of that area

then when the real estate agents put a description about a home for sale in the city of geneva they can say - 'your taxes may be high but you get free use of the lakefront and boat launch' grin

there would be no need for the 'live where you work' program
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#1499211 --- 05/23/17 10:53 AM Re: New Budget [Re: bluezone]
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Camera has no idea what is going on for the average taxpayer. His mission is self-centered as he only is interested on making sure things are green or everyone can have chickens and on and on. He does not care about what the taxpayers who elected him think. If it's what he wants he does it. Wasn't he the one who spearheaded the drive to give $5000 of our taxpayers dollars to fight the dump in Seneca County?

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#1499221 --- 05/23/17 03:05 PM Re: New Budget [Re: cRaZeD]
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Fortunately I don't think there has been a huge influx of chickens or composting. But his plans for trash collection will certainly cost a bunch. What's next, a single choice of house number size & font?

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#1499310 --- 05/26/17 11:34 AM Re: New Budget [Re: cRaZeD]
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This entire trash issue is council's way of putting lipstick on a pig. Just like the boat launch fee, they are trying to nickel and dime their way to a balanced budget. With the properties that were contaminated by the foundry losing all value, the city had better buck up and find a way to expand the tax base to cover the state property tax cap (without just raising assessments like they've been doing to cover), unfunded mandates, annual raises for municipal employees, and rising healthcare costs to the city.

If the city wants to be the beacon of the wine hospitality industry, I would recommend shoring up the tax base first as our cut of the sales and hotel taxes are not going to cover the projected cost increase.

Otherwise, within ten years the city will be dissolved like other area municipalities. You heard it here first...

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#1499341 --- 05/27/17 05:27 AM Re: New Budget [Re: ScubaSteve78]
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Originally Posted By: ScubaSteve78

Otherwise, within ten years the city will be dissolved like other area municipalities. You heard it here first...


Start by getting rid of what is now a disaster of a police department. The department hasn't been the same since outsider Herman Garrow came in. The chief, who has yet to move into the city, spends more time drinking at the Knights of Columbus than he does running the police department.

Overtime is out of control due to mass defections within the department. The only way the city is going to recover from this gross incompetence is to raise taxes.

Let the sheriff's department take over policing. They are doing just fine with the take over of 911. If policing suffers then the voters can hold the sheriff responsible and vote him out.
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#1499440 --- 05/30/17 01:22 PM Re: New Budget [Re: The Mechanic]
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Why hasn't the city manager forced the police chief to move into the city? Is it because they are drinking buddies? Its time to put a stop to this kind of favoritism going on all over the city.

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#1499445 --- 05/30/17 05:52 PM Re: New Budget [Re: cRaZeD]
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What is the difference in response time between sheriffs, who cover the county, and Geneva PD, who only have to cover the city? This would seem to be an important factor is this discussion.

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#1499597 --- 06/03/17 11:23 PM Re: New Budget [Re: Tacitus]
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Originally Posted By: Tacitus
What is the difference in response time between sheriffs, who cover the county, and Geneva PD, who only have to cover the city? This would seem to be an important factor is this discussion.


I think it was said that the Wayne County Sheriff's Department would have dedicated patrols in Lyons when Lyons dissolved. The same could be done in Geneva. I think it's at least something to look into. Moving the 911 center was worth it.
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#1499598 --- 06/03/17 11:24 PM Re: New Budget [Re: justacitizen]
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Originally Posted By: justacitizen
Why hasn't the city manager forced the police chief to move into the city? Is it because they are drinking buddies? Its time to put a stop to this kind of favoritism going on all over the city.


Two very good questions. The mere fact that the chief hasn't moved into the city or has been made to move into the city shows a true lack of leadership.
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#1500292 --- 06/21/17 07:13 AM Re: NO Skate Park [Re: ScubaSteve78]
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Originally Posted By: ScubaSteve78
the city had better buck up and find a way to expand the tax base to cover the state property tax cap (without just raising assessments like they've been doing to cover)

If the city wants to be the beacon of the wine hospitality industry, I would recommend shoring up the tax base first as our cut of the sales and hotel taxes are not going to cover the projected cost increase.


appears that mr marone wants to build a skate park at bicentential park at lake street

he has a skate park near the ball field but fails to maintain it

having skaters near two very busy streets would not be wise

if a skater traveled into the street by accident it could be fatal with those large 18 wheel trucks always traveling on lake street

if any development should occur at the bicentential park at lake street it should be a business that will pay property taxes and increase the tax base

having a fountain at that location was and is foolish considering the city of geneva is a 'revenue negative' city


if mr marone thinks a skate park is a worthy project then he can buy the foundry land, the old market basket area or some other location and fund it with his money

place it near the community center on carter road

charge a small entrance fee to cover the operating costs

if he feels it is not worth his time and his money to open up his own skate park than it is not wise to force the city of geneva taxes payers to pay for his wild projects

where is the money he got from selling his business?
use that for his own skate park

why did he sell his business?

was one of the reasons he sold his business was because the city taxes are too high?

why are the taxes too high - too many tax exempt properties...
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#1500293 --- 06/21/17 07:20 AM Re: NO Skate Park [Re: bluezone]
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NO Skate Park due to high taxes

Quote:

County of Ontario
Municipality Tax Rate
Per $1000 AV



City of Canandaigua 6.31
City of Geneva 18.29
Town of Canandaigua 1.15
Town of Victor 0.72
Village of Victor 4.23
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