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#1341651 --- 04/29/12 05:20 PM Re: Quotable quotes [Re: Ayuveda]
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or whatever.


Well, I consider the "whatever" simply a chance to tell a joke. Not a bad or unimportant thing at all...this old world's about a quart low on laughter, IMO. ;\)
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#1343382 --- 05/08/12 07:33 PM Re: Quotable quotes [Re: VM Smith]
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Do not train a child to learn by force or harshness; but direct them to it by what amuses their minds, so that you may be better able to discover with accuracy the peculiar bent of the genius of each. -Plato, Greek philosopher, BC 427-BC 347

(IOW, forget about the test, and teach the child.)
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#1343403 --- 05/08/12 11:06 PM Re: Quotable quotes [Re: twocats]
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"There is no doubt that the Capitalist class will blast and burn this world before it leaves the stage of history. But it is we the workers who built these palaces and cities, who toiled the fields and worked the factories, and we can build them again, better than before. We are not afraid of ruins."

-José Buenaventura Durruti Dumange (14 July 1896 - 20 November 1936) was a central figure of Spanish anarchism during the period leading up to and including the Spanish Civil War.


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#1346357 --- 05/24/12 07:57 PM Re: Quotable quotes [Re: Ayuveda]
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"A study shows that Congress speaks at a 10th grade level. So we're being governed by children who were left behind."
-Andy Borowitz
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#1346786 --- 05/27/12 01:59 PM Re: Quotable quotes [Re: twocats]
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"...it is the natural human tendency of those who wield power to abuse those without it."

-Peter Keane
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#1346794 --- 05/27/12 02:52 PM Re: Quotable quotes [Re: twocats]
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The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite."
-- Thomas Jefferson
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#1346797 --- 05/27/12 03:00 PM Re: Quotable quotes [Re: VM Smith]
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"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. . . . corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."

-- U.S. President Abraham Lincoln, Nov. 21, 1864
(letter to Col. William F. Elkins)
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#1346800 --- 05/27/12 03:49 PM Re: Quotable quotes [Re: Ayuveda]
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"No man is good enough to govern another man without that other's consent."
-- Abraham Lincoln, October 16, 1854
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#1346805 --- 05/27/12 04:02 PM Re: Quotable quotes [Re: VM Smith]
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Good quote. Although it appears Lincoln's political understanding matured over the following ten years, as shown in his letter of 1864 previously quoted.



"Mischief springs from the power which the moneyed interest derives from a paper currency which they are able to control, from the multitude of corporations with exclusive privileges... which are employed altogether for their benefit."

- Andrew Jackson
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#1346883 --- 05/28/12 11:31 AM Re: Quotable quotes [Re: Ayuveda]
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#1346895 --- 05/28/12 12:48 PM Re: Quotable quotes [Re: Ayuveda]
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Although it appears Lincoln's political understanding matured over the following ten years


It did; he was a consummate politician, but his moral and ethical understanding went right downhill, which so often happens in politics and government.

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#1346899 --- 05/28/12 01:00 PM Re: Quotable quotes [Re: VM Smith]
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The government of the United States is a definite government, confined to specified objects. It is not like state governments, whose powers are more general. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government."
-- James Madison, speech in the House of Representatives, January 10, 1794
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#1347057 --- 05/29/12 03:48 PM Re: Quotable quotes [Re: VM Smith]
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#1347222 --- 05/30/12 07:04 PM Re: Quotable quotes [Re: twocats]
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#1347257 --- 05/31/12 12:53 AM Re: Quotable quotes [Re: twocats]
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"I am an anarchist in my personal life ... but I don't feel we have evolved far enough as a species to make anarchy work in society itself. We still need government to transfer the wealth from those who have too much to those who have too little, to make sure important projects get done, and keep territorial humans from screwing over and killing each other."

JELLO BIAFRA
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#1347258 --- 05/31/12 01:56 AM Re: Quotable quotes [Re: Teonan]
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We still need government to transfer the wealth


LOL! More from that deep thinker, Boucher. He thinks he's smart enough for anarchism to work in his personal life, but not the common people, in "society itself". If he's not in society, then he must be on another planet. Socialists are so elitist.

So...what's the word of the day today?
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#1348361 --- 06/09/12 12:48 AM Re: Quotable quotes [Re: VM Smith]
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"The idea of "free contract" between the potentate and his starving subject is a sick joke, perhaps worth some moments in an academic seminar exploring the consequences of, in my view, absurd ideas, but nowhere else."

- Noam Chomsky
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#1348456 --- 06/10/12 11:24 AM Re: Quotable quotes [Re: Teonan]
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“There is no quarrel between science and spirituality. I often hear people of science trying to use it to prove the nonexistence of the spiritual, but I simply can't see a chasm in between the two. What is spiritual produces what is scientific and when science is used to disprove the spiritual, it's always done with the intent to do so; a personal contempt. As a result, scientists today only prove their inferiority to the great founding fathers of the sciences who were practitioners of alchemy. Today's science is washed-out and scrubbed-down and robbed of everything mystical and spiritual, a knowledge born of contempt and discontent. Or perhaps, there are a few who wish to keep those secrets to themselves and serve everyone else up with a tasteless version of science and the idiots of today blindly follow their equally blind leaders.”
― C. JoyBell C.

A good read for those that care to explore further
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#1348775 --- 06/12/12 05:41 PM Re: Quotable quotes [Re: Kitty]
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“The earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that in glory and in triumph they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of the dot on scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner of the dot. How frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity — in all this vastness — there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. It is up to us. It’s been said that astronomy is a humbling, and I might add, a character-building experience. To my mind, there is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly and compassionately with one another and to preserve and cherish that pale blue dot, the only home we’ve ever known.”

— Carl Sagan
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#1348782 --- 06/12/12 07:02 PM Re: Quotable quotes [Re: Teonan]
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"How can any one of us be happy if all the others were sad?"
-a child

Not long ago someone posted the photo above on their Facebook posting. Very cute to say the least. It had this caption with it…
"An anthropologist studying the habits and customs of an African tribe found himself surrounded by children most days. So he decided to play a little game with them. He managed to get candy from the nearest town and put it all in a decorated basket. at the foot of a tree.

Then he called the children and suggested they play the game. When the anthropologist said "now", the children had to run to the tree and the first one to get there could have all the candy to him/herself.

So the children all lined up waiting for the signal. When the anthropologist said "now", all of the children took each other by the hand ran together towards the tree. They all arrived at the same time divided up the candy, sat down and began to happily munch away.

The anthropologist went over to them and asked why they had all run together when any one of them could have had the candy all to themselves.

The children responded: "Ubuntu. How could any one of us be happy if all the others were sad?"

Ubuntu is a philosophy of African tribes that can be summed up as "I am what I am because of who we all are."
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