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#1496523 --- 03/11/17 07:56 PM Reed smoked by hot Ovid crowd
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And you thought Ovid would be a cakewalk after I-town didn't cha Reed. Su-prise! smirk


Volatile crowd meets Rep. Tom Reed at town hall meeting in Ovid

Tammy Whitacre / FL1 News

03/11/2017

Congressman Tom Reed, NY-23, was met by a volatile crowd congregating in the Ovid fire hall Saturday morning, March 11th.

Nearly 200 residents crowded into the fire hall for a town hall meeting with Reed, who represents some 717,000 constituents in his district. Many carried signs, expressing their support for Planned Parenthood, demanding affordable health insurance for all, protection for the earth and demanding Reed “tell the truth”.

Residents took Reed to task on issues important to them, primarily healthcare.

“I do not support the Affordable Care Act,” Reed said. “I will support repeal.”

The crowd responded with a chorus of boos followed by demands for the same healthcare Reed and his colleagues enjoy – insurance that taxpayers pay for. Reed was also criticized for having undergone bariatric surgery when many of those in the crowd don’t even have health insurance.

“My insurance is Obamacare,” Reed said, noting he pays high premiums and high deductibles.

Despite a microphone and sound system, much of what Reed said throughout the meeting was drowned out by shouting from angry residents, including the chant, “Save our healthcare” echoing throughout the fire hall. But Reed managed to explain that the repeal of the Affordable Care Act had a process that must be followed and that healthcare was not going to just go away.

Unlike Medicare and Social Security.

Reed came under fire for government officials using Medicare and Social Security as a “slush fund.”

“Now Trumpcare is going to cause Medicare to lose its solvency four years earlier than before and create billions of dollars in tax cuts for billionaires,” one resident argued.
Photo of the crowd at the Ovid town hall by Tammy Whitacre, FL1 News

Reed told residents that in their present form, both Medicare and Social Security are already losing their solvency and therefore a change has to be made. Conceding the fact regarding loss of solvency, Reed said he recognized the “sins of past government officials” and assured residents Medicare and Social Security would be moving forward long term. He also noted that the $21 trillion national debt has to be dealt with or Medicare and Social Security will take a hit.

Reed was then criticized about women’s rights and his “critical reaction” to last Wednesday’s, March 8th, sit-in at his Geneva office. Reed was asked to show proof that the sit-in denied the congressman’s staff the ability to help other constituents. Reed alleged his staff was potentially prohibited from using phones and computers by protesters who forced their way in and took over his office. This brought further angst from the crowd.

Reed was applauded for his support of alternative energy sources and his recognition that student debt is at a point of “crisis across the country.”

“It is making the opportunity for greater education impossible for the next generation,” Reed said, noting a program in the works, Vision for Students, and calling for tuition reductions for working families.

But Reed came under attack again announcing his support of allowing parents to send their children to whatever school they want as long as it doesn’t hurt public education. In a small rural community like Ovid, residents believe it does.

“We need all our resources to go to public schools,” one resident said, “And they don’t.”

Among the final topics discussed at the meeting was immigration. The crowd made it clear to the congressman they did not want a wall at the Mexican border. An apple grower wanted to know whether or not Reed has a ready and willing workforce to take the place of the immigrants that will be sent back to Mexico when the wall is built.

“We need a border that works,” Reed said.

The proposed wall and idea that unsavory people travel into the United States from Mexico to commit crimes was met with a chorus of boos and the chant, “No wall”. However, no ideas were forthcoming when Reed asked for an alternate solution to keep the border secure. Reed did outline a proposal welcomed by residents for the Red Card program that would allow immigrants who have gone through a screening process to come and go across the border at will.

Despite angry reports to the contrary by residents at the meeting, Reed noted that he and his staff are always available should anyone wish to discuss a topic further. 03/11/2017 @ 07:53 pm | Updated: 03/11/2017 @ 08:39 pm
Photo by Tammy Whitacre, FL1 News

Congressman Tom Reed, NY-23, was met by a volatile crowd congregating in the Ovid fire hall Saturday morning, March 11th.


Nearly 200 residents crowded into the fire hall for a town hall meeting with Reed, who represents some 717,000 constituents in his district. Many carried signs, expressing their support for Planned Parenthood, demanding affordable health insurance for all, protection for the earth and demanding Reed “tell the truth”.

Residents took Reed to task on issues important to them, primarily healthcare.

“I do not support the Affordable Care Act,” Reed said. “I will support repeal.”

The crowd responded with a chorus of boos followed by demands for the same healthcare Reed and his colleagues enjoy – insurance that taxpayers pay for. Reed was also criticized for having undergone bariatric surgery when many of those in the crowd don’t even have health insurance.

“My insurance is Obamacare,” Reed said, noting he pays high premiums and high deductibles.

Despite a microphone and sound system, much of what Reed said throughout the meeting was drowned out by shouting from angry residents, including the chant, “Save our healthcare” echoing throughout the fire hall. But Reed managed to explain that the repeal of the Affordable Care Act had a process that must be followed and that healthcare was not going to just go away.

Unlike Medicare and Social Security.

Reed came under fire for government officials using Medicare and Social Security as a “slush fund.”

“Now Trumpcare is going to cause Medicare to lose its solvency four years earlier than before and create billions of dollars in tax cuts for billionaires,” one resident argued.
Photo of the crowd at the Ovid town hall by Tammy Whitacre, FL1 News

Reed told residents that in their present form, both Medicare and Social Security are already losing their solvency and therefore a change has to be made. Conceding the fact regarding loss of solvency, Reed said he recognized the “sins of past government officials” and assured residents Medicare and Social Security would be moving forward long term. He also noted that the $21 trillion national debt has to be dealt with or Medicare and Social Security will take a hit.

Reed was then criticized about women’s rights and his “critical reaction” to last Wednesday’s, March 8th, sit-in at his Geneva office. Reed was asked to show proof that the sit-in denied the congressman’s staff the ability to help other constituents. Reed alleged his staff was potentially prohibited from using phones and computers by protesters who forced their way in and took over his office. This brought further angst from the crowd.

Reed was applauded for his support of alternative energy sources and his recognition that student debt is at a point of “crisis across the country.”

“It is making the opportunity for greater education impossible for the next generation,” Reed said, noting a program in the works, Vision for Students, and calling for tuition reductions for working families.

But Reed came under attack again announcing his support of allowing parents to send their children to whatever school they want as long as it doesn’t hurt public education. In a small rural community like Ovid, residents believe it does.

“We need all our resources to go to public schools,” one resident said, “And they don’t.”

Among the final topics discussed at the meeting was immigration. The crowd made it clear to the congressman they did not want a wall at the Mexican border. An apple grower wanted to know whether or not Reed has a ready and willing workforce to take the place of the immigrants that will be sent back to Mexico when the wall is built.

“We need a border that works,” Reed said.

The proposed wall and idea that unsavory people travel into the United States from Mexico to commit crimes was met with a chorus of boos and the chant, “No wall”. However, no ideas were forthcoming when Reed asked for an alternate solution to keep the border secure. Reed did outline a proposal welcomed by residents for the Red Card program that would allow immigrants who have gone through a screening process to come and go across the border at will.

Despite angry reports to the contrary by residents at the meeting, Reed noted that he and his staff are always available should anyone wish to discuss a topic further.


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#1496524 --- 03/11/17 10:50 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: Teonan]
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Those aren't Ovid residents. They were brought in from Ithaca.

Astroturfed fake news

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#1496534 --- 03/12/17 12:56 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: Headless Horseman]
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Originally Posted By: Headless Horseman
Those aren't Ovid residents. They were brought in from Ithaca.

Astroturfed fake news
LOL OMG. shaking my head in amazement.
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#1496535 --- 03/12/17 12:58 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: Headless Horseman]
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Originally Posted By: Headless Horseman
Those aren't Ovid residents. They were brought in from Ithaca.

Astroturfed fake news
How many apple growers are there in Ithaca?

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Among the final topics discussed at the meeting was immigration. The crowd made it clear to the congressman they did not want a wall at the Mexican border. An apple grower wanted to know whether or not Reed has a ready and willing workforce to take the place of the immigrants that will be sent back to Mexico when the wall is built.
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#1496536 --- 03/12/17 01:00 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: kyle585]
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Good point.

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Reed was also criticized for having undergone bariatric surgery when many of those in the crowd don’t even have health insurance.
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#1496537 --- 03/12/17 01:00 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: kyle585]
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“My insurance is Obamacare,” Reed said,
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#1496538 --- 03/12/17 01:01 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: kyle585]
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Reed came under fire for government officials using Medicare and Social Security as a “slush fund.”

“Now Trumpcare is going to cause Medicare to lose its solvency four years earlier than before and create billions of dollars in tax cuts for billionaires,” one resident argued.
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#1496539 --- 03/12/17 01:03 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: Headless Horseman]
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Originally Posted By: Headless Horseman
Those aren't Ovid residents. They were brought in from Ithaca.

Astroturfed fake news
This is a much bigger problem in Ovid than in Ithaca.

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But Reed came under attack again announcing his support of allowing parents to send their children to whatever school they want as long as it doesn’t hurt public education. In a small rural community like Ovid, residents believe it does.

“We need all our resources to go to public schools,” one resident said, “And they don’t.”
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#1496540 --- 03/12/17 01:05 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.fltimes.com/opinion/finger-la...af284546e5.html

In answer to allegations that “illegal” immigrants are draining our welfare system, we want to point out that they cannot and do not apply for our social services. You must be a U.S. citizen or at least a permanent legal resident in order to qualify.

Mexicans, specifically, do not understand the concept of having the government support them. They come here to WORK, and they work very hard for very little money. Taxes and social security are deducted from their paychecks. Undocumented immigrants do not dare to file for a tax refund, nor will they ever collect Social Security, yet they are paying into both the tax base and a retirement system from which they will never benefit. Therefore, it is only fair that their children should have just as much opportunity for public education as any other taxpayer’s child because undocumented immigrants pay the same taxes as citizens.

Secondly, you need to understand the current status of Finger Lakes area agriculture. Thirty or 40 years ago, teenagers would spend school vacations working in the vineyards to earn money. Today, most citizens are not willing to work so hard for so little money. If you think that the jobs left open after these deportations will be filled by unemployed citizens, you are dreaming. Without a migrant workforce, farmers will have to pay higher wages in order to find people willing to work these jobs.

Perhaps we will all need the extra income since the wage increase will be reflected in the prices we pay for groceries. Our wine industry, which provides us with a substantial tax base in addition to bringing in thousands of tourists, will perhaps be one of the hardest hit. So sure, deport farm workers — that is if you don’t mind paying the price.

Congress has had ample opportunity to find a realistic, fair, and economically feasible solution to our dependence on undocumented workers. However, under House speakers John Boehner and now, Paul Ryan, the Republican-led House leadership has refused to let immigration reform legislation even come to a vote. This failure has led directly to draconian measures that needlessly persecute people at taxpayer expense.

Mass deportations, 10,000 additional immigration agents, new detention centers, more strain on our courts, and a 2000-mile border wall will cost billions. That money has to come from somewhere. Ask yourself, “What government agencies and services am I willing to give up in order to pay for this?”

This piece was co-authored by Kim Hansen, Anne Hoyt and Nancey Velez-Anderson. Hoyt, of Geneva, is an adjunct instructor for the Humanities and Adult Basic Education departments at Finger Lakes Community College and has master’s degrees in journalism from Syracuse. She is a former writer for the Finger Lakes Times.
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#1496546 --- 03/12/17 04:18 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: kyle585]
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This person needs to do some homework. Just look at California, besides migrant workers have green cards and are legal. This article is totally off base as usual for the FL Times.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/dec/6/20041206-102115-6766r/


Edited by scwoodchuck (03/12/17 04:21 PM)
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#1496548 --- 03/12/17 04:29 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Headless Horseman
Those aren't Ovid residents. They were brought in from Ithaca.

Astroturfed fake news
How many apple growers are there in Ithaca?

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Among the final topics discussed at the meeting was immigration. The crowd made it clear to the congressman they did not want a wall at the Mexican border. An apple grower wanted to know whether or not Reed has a ready and willing workforce to take the place of the immigrants that will be sent back to Mexico when the wall is built.


https://indiancreekithaca.com/whats-ripe-now/
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#1496549 --- 03/12/17 04:34 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: scwoodchuck]
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"From Ithaca". That's funny. Ithaca is part of the 23rd.

I have many friends in Ovid. It's an insult to believe that nobody in Ovid has the depth to question a politician.

Sorry if we are supposed to believe Tom should serve without accountability.

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#1496551 --- 03/12/17 04:47 PM Re: Reed smoked by hot Ovid crowd [Re: Teonan]
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Originally Posted By: Teonan

And you thought


what is hillary up to?
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#1496556 --- 03/12/17 06:53 PM Re: Reed smoked by hot Ovid crowd [Re: bluezone]
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She may be behind some of the protesting

http://www.ajc.com/news/national/hillary-clinton-debuts-new-haircut/ARC7xdrHqhempPWGAewXyO/

crazy. And you thought it was grassroots
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#1496557 --- 03/12/17 07:33 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: Top Dog]
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You're slipping Top Dog. Really want to know where all the protesters are coming from ? Just check out the Facebook page of any Democratic Committee in the counties in Reed's district.
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#1496558 --- 03/12/17 08:24 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Clue me in. I don't "like" their page like you do so I don't see as much.

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#1496562 --- 03/13/17 06:10 AM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: Top Dog]
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You're a Democrat aren't you ? Couldn't you get Teddy and Duprey, Churchill out of bed ? Didn't see them in the pictures grin
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#1496566 --- 03/13/17 09:59 AM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: scwoodchuck]
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I think Churchill only goes to those kinds of things if somebody is paying him crazy
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#1496568 --- 03/13/17 10:17 AM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: Hello_Governer]
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http://www.npr.org/2017/02/22/516527499/...onal-town-halls

Republican members of Congress aren't exactly getting a warm welcome in their home districts during this week's recess.

Angry constituents have confronted legislators at town halls across the country, upset over everything from the GOP's plan to repeal and replace Obamacare, the Trump White House's travel ban, alleged Russian interference in the U.S. elections and more. New York Rep. Tom Reed, for example, faced these questions in a series of town halls he held over the weekend.

The backlash is happening in some deep red places, stretching from Reed's western New York district to Kentucky and Iowa. Some national Republicans — and President Trump in a Tuesday night tweet — have tried to dismiss the progressive activists helping to organize the protests.

However, their statements almost mirror the arguments Democrats made in 2009 to explain away backlash at town halls that summer over the health care law. How did that work out? Democrats got a "shellacking" at the ballot box in November 2010.
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#1496570 --- 03/13/17 11:05 AM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: scwoodchuck]
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You're a Democrat aren't you ?


Nope.

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#1496574 --- 03/13/17 02:45 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: Top Dog]
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From fox news. Good job mam

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/13/spicer-ambushed-by-woman-in-apple-store.html

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By Alyssa Madruga Published March 13, 2017 FoxNews.com

Press Secretary Sean Spicer confronted at an Apple Store

A woman questioned White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer on Saturday in an Apple Store, asking him what it is like working for a “fascist.”

Shree Chauhan posted a video of the encounter on social media over the weekend. In the video she is heard asking Sean Spicer if he “helped with the Russia stuff.”

Spicer responded to Chauhan by saying “we have a great country.”

The viral Periscope video showed the woman asking how Spicer felt “about destroying our country.”

Chauhan was in the store to get her iPhone fixed when she spotted the press secretary.

“I realized what an enormous opportunity it was to get answers without the protections normally given to Mr. Spicer,” Chauhan said in a post on Medium.

The woman in the video continued to ask Spicer if he was a “criminal” and if he had “committed treason too, just like the president.”

Spicer said in the video that the United States is “such a great country that allows you to be here.”

“That is racism and it is an implied threat,” Chauhan said in the post in response to his comment. The woman went on to say, “I was not polite. But when does being impolite mean that I should be thrown out of the United States of America?”

Spicer finished his transaction and was leaving the store while Chauhan asked if he felt “good about lying to the American people.”

“We can win if we resist together for liberty, justice and equality. This is our shared America,” Chauhan said in her post.
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#1496578 --- 03/13/17 06:24 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: kyle585]
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From fox news. Good job mam

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/13/spicer-ambushed-by-woman-in-apple-store.html

Store

By Alyssa Madruga Published March 13, 2017 FoxNews.com

Press Secretary Sean Spicer confronted at an Apple Store

A woman questioned White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer on Saturday in an Apple Store, asking him what it is like working for a “fascist.”

Shree Chauhan posted a video of the encounter on social media over the weekend. In the video she is heard asking Sean Spicer if he “helped with the Russia stuff.”

Spicer responded to Chauhan by saying “we have a great country.”

The viral Periscope video showed the woman asking how Spicer felt “about destroying our country.”

Chauhan was in the store to get her iPhone fixed when she spotted the press secretary.

“I realized what an enormous opportunity it was to get answers without the protections normally given to Mr. Spicer,” Chauhan said in a post on Medium.

The woman in the video continued to ask Spicer if he was a “criminal” and if he had “committed treason too, just like the president.”

Spicer said in the video that the United States is “such a great country that allows you to be here.”

“That is racism and it is an implied threat,” Chauhan said in the post in response to his comment. The woman went on to say, “I was not polite. But when does being impolite mean that I should be thrown out of the United States of America?”

Spicer finished his transaction and was leaving the store while Chauhan asked if he felt “good about lying to the American people.”

“We can win if we resist together for liberty, justice and equality. This is our shared America,” Chauhan said in her post.





“We can win if we resist together for liberty, justice and equality. This is our shared America,”


Funny, one mans Liberty, Justice, and Equality, is another mans totalitarian state.



From fox news. Good job mam


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#1496579 --- 03/13/17 07:02 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: kyle585]
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Disgusting: Unhinged Leftist Who Attacked SPICER Also Organized Hit on BETSY DEVOS (VIDEO)http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/03/disgusting-unhinged-leftist-harassed-sean-spicer-organized-attack-betsy-devos-video/

Jim Hoft Mar 13th, 2017 9:40 am 286 Comments

Indian-American activist Shree Chauhan confronted Sean Spicer at an Apple Store Saturday in the Washington DC area.

Shree accused President Trump of being a fascist and criminal while harassing Spicer.

Disgusting: Unhinged Leftist Who Attacked SPICER Also Organized Hit on BETSY DEVOS (VIDEO)
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#1496581 --- 03/14/17 03:46 AM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: kyle585]
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#1496582 --- 03/14/17 04:44 AM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: DR. D]
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A quote as to why the USSR failed.

"The Soviet system is not working because the workers are not working."

Another one

"They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work."

Sound a little like what the activists want, I think so. Reed is way off base with his policy of creating jobs because nobody really wants to work anymore. The left says " IT'S A FREE COUNTRY " they just have a different idea as to what kind of FREE.
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#1496600 --- 03/14/17 02:48 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: scwoodchuck]
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After 7 years of complaining about Obamacare, this is the best the Republicans can come up with?

http://www.cnn.com/videos/cnnmoney/2017/...ans-new-day.cnn

A new report by the Congressional Budget Office estimates that a 64-year-old making $26,500 per year would pay $14,600 under the proposed American Health Care Act.


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#1496617 --- 03/15/17 12:16 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: kyle585]
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#1496619 --- 03/15/17 01:35 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Re-read your link, "Chuckles"... you're simply wrong about that.
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#1496620 --- 03/15/17 02:16 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: scwoodchuck]
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From your link: grin


“If half of the CBO [report] is true, I think we should slow down,” Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said Monday.

Asked for reaction to the score, Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.), who is physician, said, “It’s awful.”

• The elimination of ­ObamaCare’s individual mandate would prompt fewer healthy people to sign up for insurance, which could cause premium costs to increase 15 percent to 20 percent in 2018 and 2019.
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#1496623 --- 03/15/17 04:12 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: kyle585]
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Under Obama care premiums went up that much

http://time.com/money/4503325/obama-health-care-costs-obamacare/
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#1496624 --- 03/15/17 04:17 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: Timbo]
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#1496626 --- 03/15/17 04:34 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Under Obama care premiums went up that much

http://time.com/money/4503325/obama-health-care-costs-obamacare/
Once again from your link!

While many middle- and low-income Americans get some or all of their insurance premiums subsidized by the government, people who are insured through their employers must rely on their companies to pay some of the bill. And the amounts for premiums paid by both employers and employees have risen substantially over the years.

In 2008, the average employer-sponsored family plan cost a total of $12,680, with employees footing $3,354 of the bill, according to Kaiser data. By 2016, the cost of the average employer family plan was up to $18,142 for the year, with workers picking up $5,277 of the tab.

These increased costs for employers and employees alike may seem steep—up around 50% over the past eight years—but they could have risen far higher had the Affordable Care Act never passed. The Kaiser study shows that average family premiums rose 20% from 2011 to 2016. That rate of increase is actually much lower than the previous five years (up 31% from 2006 to 2011) and the five years before that (up 63% from 2001 to 2006).

Pointing to data from Kaiser, a White House press release recently stated, "The average premium for a family with employer coverage is now almost $3,600 lower than if premium growth since 2010 had matched the decade preceding the Affordable Care Act."

plans in the Obamacare era generally must cover more services than they were required to in the past, including things like preventive screenings and contraception at no extra charge to customers.
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#1496627 --- 03/15/17 04:36 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: scwoodchuck]
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#1496629 --- 03/15/17 06:00 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: kyle585]
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After 7 years of complaining about Obamacare, this is the best the Republicans can come up with?

http://www.cnn.com/videos/cnnmoney/2017/...ans-new-day.cnn

A new report by the Congressional Budget Office estimates that a 64-year-old making $26,500 per year would pay $14,600 under the proposed American Health Care Act.


Oh, I totally missed that the 64 year old had 3 kids was on welfare, SNAP and Medicaid. There are women on the staff who pay around $7000. But asking real people is not a credible source.
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#1496630 --- 03/15/17 06:21 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
After 7 years of complaining about Obamacare, this is the best the Republicans can come up with?

http://www.cnn.com/videos/cnnmoney/2017/...ans-new-day.cnn

A new report by the Congressional Budget Office estimates that a 64-year-old making $26,500 per year would pay $14,600 under the proposed American Health Care Act.


Oh, I totally missed that the 64 year old had 3 kids was on welfare, SNAP and Medicaid. There are women on the staff who pay around $7000. But asking real people is not a credible source.
64 year old woman don't have 3 kids.
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#1496631 --- 03/15/17 06:22 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
After 7 years of complaining about Obamacare, this is the best the Republicans can come up with?

http://www.cnn.com/videos/cnnmoney/2017/...ans-new-day.cnn

A new report by the Congressional Budget Office estimates that a 64-year-old making $26,500 per year would pay $14,600 under the proposed American Health Care Act.


Oh, I totally missed that the 64 year old had 3 kids was on welfare, SNAP and Medicaid. There are women on the staff who pay around $7000. But asking real people is not a credible source.
Women on the staff who pay $7,000? I have no idea what that means?
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#1496632 --- 03/15/17 06:27 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
After 7 years of complaining about Obamacare, this is the best the Republicans can come up with?

http://www.cnn.com/videos/cnnmoney/2017/...ans-new-day.cnn

A new report by the Congressional Budget Office estimates that a 64-year-old making $26,500 per year would pay $14,600 under the proposed American Health Care Act.


Oh, I totally missed that the 64 year old had 3 kids was on welfare, SNAP and Medicaid. There are women on the staff who pay around $7000. But asking real people is not a credible source.
I could be wrong but I don't think someone on welfare and Medicaid pays into Obamacare. You are just maing all this crap up, aren't you?
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#1496633 --- 03/15/17 06:28 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Originally Posted By: kyle585
After 7 years of complaining about Obamacare, this is the best the Republicans can come up with?

http://www.cnn.com/videos/cnnmoney/2017/...ans-new-day.cnn

A new report by the Congressional Budget Office estimates that a 64-year-old making $26,500 per year would pay $14,600 under the proposed American Health Care Act.


Oh, I totally missed that the 64 year old had 3 kids was on welfare, SNAP and Medicaid. There are women on the staff who pay around $7000. But asking real people is not a credible source.
64 year old woman don't have 3 kids.
I don't think this a real person. You just made up the worst possible case didn't you?
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#1496664 --- 03/16/17 01:22 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: kyle585]
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That's what they did in the report didn't they ? 14 thousand would be a family plan and someone with a family making 26 thousand wouldn't pay anything anyway.
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#1496666 --- 03/16/17 01:32 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017...ement.html?_r=0
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I Make Less Than $29,425 ($60,625 for a Family of Four) - If your income is under 250% of the poverty level, you pay no more than 8.05% of income for the Silver Plan. In other words, your subsidy is the cost of the second lowest Silver Plan minus 8.05% of your income. Find out exactly how much."


Edited by scwoodchuck (03/16/17 01:41 PM)
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#1496668 --- 03/16/17 01:47 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: scwoodchuck]
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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017...ement.html?_r=0
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I Make Less Than $29,425 ($60,625 for a Family of Four) - If your income is under 250% of the poverty level, you pay no more than 8.05% of income for the Silver Plan. In other words, your subsidy is the cost of the second lowest Silver Plan minus 8.05% of your income. Find out exactly how much."

Really??? Try THIS on for size: (WARNING: Strong Language): https://youtu.be/Ifi9M7DRazI
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#1496670 --- 03/16/17 02:38 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: Teonan]
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Scwood, me & you haven't been agreeing lately. This time you have me lining up with Timbo and Kyle.

I don't think you get it. Forget what the media tells you. Forget the made up wiretapping claim of the pscycho in the White House.

Seniors are raising their grandchildren. It is possible for a 64 year old woman to have 3 children. Plus, I know veterans that are making $26,000 a year and getting shafted. Hopefully pscycho will help the veterans but he doesn't care anymore about granny than you do. She is toast and people with your attitude don't believe she exists.

You won't find this in the news but you will see it all over Seneca County.

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#1496705 --- 03/16/17 06:39 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: Top Dog]
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Scwood, me & you haven't been agreeing lately. This time you have me lining up with Timbo and Kyle.
Thank you. Some people are finally starting to see what kind of wacko we have for a president. It is sad indeed. Shocking beyond belief.
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#1496707 --- 03/16/17 07:45 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: Top Dog]
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Scwood, me & you haven't been agreeing lately. This time you have me lining up with Timbo and Kyle.

I don't think you get it. Forget what the media tells you. Forget the made up wiretapping claim of the pscycho in the White House.

Seniors are raising their grandchildren. It is possible for a 64 year old woman to have 3 children. Plus, I know veterans that are making $26,000 a year and getting shafted. Hopefully pscycho will help the veterans but he doesn't care anymore about granny than you do. She is toast and people with your attitude don't believe she exists.

You won't find this in the news but you will see it all over Seneca County.
But the same was said about Reagan, Bush, Carter, Ford even JFK was connected to the MOB.CLINTON was a draft dodger. Let's hope that the seniors do a better job raising their grand children than they did their kids.

By the way what I have seen in Seneca County is 3 generations of people who don't want to work.From the baby boomers to the snowflake's each has gotten progressively worse.


Edited by scwoodchuck (03/16/17 07:49 PM)
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#1496708 --- 03/16/17 07:54 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: Top Dog]
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Scwood, me & you haven't been agreeing lately. This time you have me lining up with Timbo and Kyle.



"I know veterans that are making $26,000 a year and getting shafted. " Hopefully pscycho will help the veterans but he doesn't care anymore about granny than you do. She is toast and people with your attitude don't believe she exists.

You won't find this in the news but you will see it all over Seneca County.
Veterans getting shafted by previous administrations, or did you forget Trump has only been President for less than 2 months crazy
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#1496709 --- 03/16/17 09:19 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: scwoodchuck]
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I knew you would grab the veteran thing. My point was that there are good people that don't earn a lot being lumped in with the wrong crowd.

Veterans, by the way, have defended us against Russian threat. So have the Presidents you mentioned. It is very questionable if the current President is living up to that in his first two months. Many good Republicans agree with that statement. You are just cheering for laundry.

You don't understand what I am talking about when I discuss grandparents raising grandchildren. If you were elderly and raising your grandchildren you would get it and not foolishly compare to generations of people who don't work. The people I am mentioning don't post here. Go figure.

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#1496711 --- 03/16/17 09:33 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: scwoodchuck]
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George H.W. Bush didn't support Trump
George W. Bush didn't support Trump
John McCain didn't support Trump.
Mitt Romney didn't support Trump.

I've met Reed. He seems like a nice guy. But he is hardly in the league that the above men are in. They are, by the way, every Republican prez candidate since Reagin. The Republicans have run out of living past candidates.

Tell me they are all wrong and that one nobody Republican wannabe from upstate is right.

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#1496712 --- 03/16/17 09:50 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Woof.

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#1496714 --- 03/16/17 09:57 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: scwoodchuck]
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#1496732 --- 03/17/17 01:05 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: Timbo]
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Edited by scwoodchuck (03/17/17 01:10 PM)
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#1496733 --- 03/17/17 01:20 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: Top Dog]
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Originally Posted By: Top Dog
George H.W. Bush didn't support Trump
George W. Bush didn't support Trump
John McCain didn't support Trump.
Mitt Romney didn't support Trump.


Tell me they are all wrong and that one nobody Republican wannabe from upstate is right.
. 3 of the 4 couldn't get elected. Or re-elected. GW was an idiot TRY AGAIN
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#1496734 --- 03/17/17 02:31 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: scwoodchuck]
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This is too easy.

Tell me the three that couldn't get elected....

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#1496738 --- 03/17/17 04:49 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: Top Dog]
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Can't be too easy, you obviously couldn't read it and understand it in the first place crazy
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#1496739 --- 03/17/17 06:28 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Thank God for edit.

There you have it folks. We need simpler questions for today's politics.

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#1497445 --- 04/05/17 03:49 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: Headless Horseman]
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Exactly! Marvelous Op Ed in the FLT by Mr. Thomas.
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#1497883 --- 04/18/17 08:43 AM Reed announces record fund-raising [Re: Teonan]
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Those aren't Ovid residents. They were brought in from Ithaca.

Astroturfed fake news

Originally Posted By: kyle585
LOL OMG. shaking my head in amazement.


Reed announces record first quarter fundraising returns: The announcement comes two weeks after a fundraising email which explicitly named Ithaca activists as a primary opponent, stating: “The activists in Ithaca and Democrats in Washington are desperate to defeat us. They need this district if they hope to take back the House of Representatives to protect their failed liberal policies and stop our pro-growth, small government agenda.”

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#1497918 --- 04/18/17 09:09 PM Re: Reed announces record fund-raising [Re: Top Dog]
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Originally Posted By: Top Dog
George H.W. Bush didn't support Trump
George W. Bush didn't support Trump
John McCain didn't support Trump.
Mitt Romney didn't support Trump.


And seeing how Trump was elected President of the United States it doesn't seem he needed any one of them.

Good ole Barry and Hillary handed Trump the win.
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#1497932 --- 04/19/17 04:19 AM Re: Reed announces record fund-raising [Re: The Mechanic]
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That's ok. If you are a liberal.

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