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#1496523 --- 03/11/17 07:56 PM Reed smoked by hot Ovid crowd
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And you thought Ovid would be a cakewalk after I-town didn't cha Reed. Su-prise! smirk


Volatile crowd meets Rep. Tom Reed at town hall meeting in Ovid

Tammy Whitacre / FL1 News

03/11/2017

Congressman Tom Reed, NY-23, was met by a volatile crowd congregating in the Ovid fire hall Saturday morning, March 11th.

Nearly 200 residents crowded into the fire hall for a town hall meeting with Reed, who represents some 717,000 constituents in his district. Many carried signs, expressing their support for Planned Parenthood, demanding affordable health insurance for all, protection for the earth and demanding Reed “tell the truth”.

Residents took Reed to task on issues important to them, primarily healthcare.

“I do not support the Affordable Care Act,” Reed said. “I will support repeal.”

The crowd responded with a chorus of boos followed by demands for the same healthcare Reed and his colleagues enjoy – insurance that taxpayers pay for. Reed was also criticized for having undergone bariatric surgery when many of those in the crowd don’t even have health insurance.

“My insurance is Obamacare,” Reed said, noting he pays high premiums and high deductibles.

Despite a microphone and sound system, much of what Reed said throughout the meeting was drowned out by shouting from angry residents, including the chant, “Save our healthcare” echoing throughout the fire hall. But Reed managed to explain that the repeal of the Affordable Care Act had a process that must be followed and that healthcare was not going to just go away.

Unlike Medicare and Social Security.

Reed came under fire for government officials using Medicare and Social Security as a “slush fund.”

“Now Trumpcare is going to cause Medicare to lose its solvency four years earlier than before and create billions of dollars in tax cuts for billionaires,” one resident argued.
Photo of the crowd at the Ovid town hall by Tammy Whitacre, FL1 News

Reed told residents that in their present form, both Medicare and Social Security are already losing their solvency and therefore a change has to be made. Conceding the fact regarding loss of solvency, Reed said he recognized the “sins of past government officials” and assured residents Medicare and Social Security would be moving forward long term. He also noted that the $21 trillion national debt has to be dealt with or Medicare and Social Security will take a hit.

Reed was then criticized about women’s rights and his “critical reaction” to last Wednesday’s, March 8th, sit-in at his Geneva office. Reed was asked to show proof that the sit-in denied the congressman’s staff the ability to help other constituents. Reed alleged his staff was potentially prohibited from using phones and computers by protesters who forced their way in and took over his office. This brought further angst from the crowd.

Reed was applauded for his support of alternative energy sources and his recognition that student debt is at a point of “crisis across the country.”

“It is making the opportunity for greater education impossible for the next generation,” Reed said, noting a program in the works, Vision for Students, and calling for tuition reductions for working families.

But Reed came under attack again announcing his support of allowing parents to send their children to whatever school they want as long as it doesn’t hurt public education. In a small rural community like Ovid, residents believe it does.

“We need all our resources to go to public schools,” one resident said, “And they don’t.”

Among the final topics discussed at the meeting was immigration. The crowd made it clear to the congressman they did not want a wall at the Mexican border. An apple grower wanted to know whether or not Reed has a ready and willing workforce to take the place of the immigrants that will be sent back to Mexico when the wall is built.

“We need a border that works,” Reed said.

The proposed wall and idea that unsavory people travel into the United States from Mexico to commit crimes was met with a chorus of boos and the chant, “No wall”. However, no ideas were forthcoming when Reed asked for an alternate solution to keep the border secure. Reed did outline a proposal welcomed by residents for the Red Card program that would allow immigrants who have gone through a screening process to come and go across the border at will.

Despite angry reports to the contrary by residents at the meeting, Reed noted that he and his staff are always available should anyone wish to discuss a topic further. 03/11/2017 @ 07:53 pm | Updated: 03/11/2017 @ 08:39 pm
Photo by Tammy Whitacre, FL1 News

Congressman Tom Reed, NY-23, was met by a volatile crowd congregating in the Ovid fire hall Saturday morning, March 11th.


Nearly 200 residents crowded into the fire hall for a town hall meeting with Reed, who represents some 717,000 constituents in his district. Many carried signs, expressing their support for Planned Parenthood, demanding affordable health insurance for all, protection for the earth and demanding Reed “tell the truth”.

Residents took Reed to task on issues important to them, primarily healthcare.

“I do not support the Affordable Care Act,” Reed said. “I will support repeal.”

The crowd responded with a chorus of boos followed by demands for the same healthcare Reed and his colleagues enjoy – insurance that taxpayers pay for. Reed was also criticized for having undergone bariatric surgery when many of those in the crowd don’t even have health insurance.

“My insurance is Obamacare,” Reed said, noting he pays high premiums and high deductibles.

Despite a microphone and sound system, much of what Reed said throughout the meeting was drowned out by shouting from angry residents, including the chant, “Save our healthcare” echoing throughout the fire hall. But Reed managed to explain that the repeal of the Affordable Care Act had a process that must be followed and that healthcare was not going to just go away.

Unlike Medicare and Social Security.

Reed came under fire for government officials using Medicare and Social Security as a “slush fund.”

“Now Trumpcare is going to cause Medicare to lose its solvency four years earlier than before and create billions of dollars in tax cuts for billionaires,” one resident argued.
Photo of the crowd at the Ovid town hall by Tammy Whitacre, FL1 News

Reed told residents that in their present form, both Medicare and Social Security are already losing their solvency and therefore a change has to be made. Conceding the fact regarding loss of solvency, Reed said he recognized the “sins of past government officials” and assured residents Medicare and Social Security would be moving forward long term. He also noted that the $21 trillion national debt has to be dealt with or Medicare and Social Security will take a hit.

Reed was then criticized about women’s rights and his “critical reaction” to last Wednesday’s, March 8th, sit-in at his Geneva office. Reed was asked to show proof that the sit-in denied the congressman’s staff the ability to help other constituents. Reed alleged his staff was potentially prohibited from using phones and computers by protesters who forced their way in and took over his office. This brought further angst from the crowd.

Reed was applauded for his support of alternative energy sources and his recognition that student debt is at a point of “crisis across the country.”

“It is making the opportunity for greater education impossible for the next generation,” Reed said, noting a program in the works, Vision for Students, and calling for tuition reductions for working families.

But Reed came under attack again announcing his support of allowing parents to send their children to whatever school they want as long as it doesn’t hurt public education. In a small rural community like Ovid, residents believe it does.

“We need all our resources to go to public schools,” one resident said, “And they don’t.”

Among the final topics discussed at the meeting was immigration. The crowd made it clear to the congressman they did not want a wall at the Mexican border. An apple grower wanted to know whether or not Reed has a ready and willing workforce to take the place of the immigrants that will be sent back to Mexico when the wall is built.

“We need a border that works,” Reed said.

The proposed wall and idea that unsavory people travel into the United States from Mexico to commit crimes was met with a chorus of boos and the chant, “No wall”. However, no ideas were forthcoming when Reed asked for an alternate solution to keep the border secure. Reed did outline a proposal welcomed by residents for the Red Card program that would allow immigrants who have gone through a screening process to come and go across the border at will.

Despite angry reports to the contrary by residents at the meeting, Reed noted that he and his staff are always available should anyone wish to discuss a topic further.


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#1496524 --- 03/11/17 10:50 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: Teonan]
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Those aren't Ovid residents. They were brought in from Ithaca.

Astroturfed fake news

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#1496534 --- 03/12/17 12:56 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: Headless Horseman]
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Originally Posted By: Headless Horseman
Those aren't Ovid residents. They were brought in from Ithaca.

Astroturfed fake news
LOL OMG. shaking my head in amazement.
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#1496535 --- 03/12/17 12:58 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: Headless Horseman]
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Originally Posted By: Headless Horseman
Those aren't Ovid residents. They were brought in from Ithaca.

Astroturfed fake news
How many apple growers are there in Ithaca?

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Among the final topics discussed at the meeting was immigration. The crowd made it clear to the congressman they did not want a wall at the Mexican border. An apple grower wanted to know whether or not Reed has a ready and willing workforce to take the place of the immigrants that will be sent back to Mexico when the wall is built.
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#1496536 --- 03/12/17 01:00 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: kyle585]
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Good point.

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Reed was also criticized for having undergone bariatric surgery when many of those in the crowd don’t even have health insurance.
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#1496537 --- 03/12/17 01:00 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: kyle585]
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“My insurance is Obamacare,” Reed said,
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#1496538 --- 03/12/17 01:01 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: kyle585]
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Reed came under fire for government officials using Medicare and Social Security as a “slush fund.”

“Now Trumpcare is going to cause Medicare to lose its solvency four years earlier than before and create billions of dollars in tax cuts for billionaires,” one resident argued.
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#1496539 --- 03/12/17 01:03 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: Headless Horseman]
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Originally Posted By: Headless Horseman
Those aren't Ovid residents. They were brought in from Ithaca.

Astroturfed fake news
This is a much bigger problem in Ovid than in Ithaca.

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But Reed came under attack again announcing his support of allowing parents to send their children to whatever school they want as long as it doesn’t hurt public education. In a small rural community like Ovid, residents believe it does.

“We need all our resources to go to public schools,” one resident said, “And they don’t.”
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#1496540 --- 03/12/17 01:05 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.fltimes.com/opinion/finger-la...af284546e5.html

In answer to allegations that “illegal” immigrants are draining our welfare system, we want to point out that they cannot and do not apply for our social services. You must be a U.S. citizen or at least a permanent legal resident in order to qualify.

Mexicans, specifically, do not understand the concept of having the government support them. They come here to WORK, and they work very hard for very little money. Taxes and social security are deducted from their paychecks. Undocumented immigrants do not dare to file for a tax refund, nor will they ever collect Social Security, yet they are paying into both the tax base and a retirement system from which they will never benefit. Therefore, it is only fair that their children should have just as much opportunity for public education as any other taxpayer’s child because undocumented immigrants pay the same taxes as citizens.

Secondly, you need to understand the current status of Finger Lakes area agriculture. Thirty or 40 years ago, teenagers would spend school vacations working in the vineyards to earn money. Today, most citizens are not willing to work so hard for so little money. If you think that the jobs left open after these deportations will be filled by unemployed citizens, you are dreaming. Without a migrant workforce, farmers will have to pay higher wages in order to find people willing to work these jobs.

Perhaps we will all need the extra income since the wage increase will be reflected in the prices we pay for groceries. Our wine industry, which provides us with a substantial tax base in addition to bringing in thousands of tourists, will perhaps be one of the hardest hit. So sure, deport farm workers — that is if you don’t mind paying the price.

Congress has had ample opportunity to find a realistic, fair, and economically feasible solution to our dependence on undocumented workers. However, under House speakers John Boehner and now, Paul Ryan, the Republican-led House leadership has refused to let immigration reform legislation even come to a vote. This failure has led directly to draconian measures that needlessly persecute people at taxpayer expense.

Mass deportations, 10,000 additional immigration agents, new detention centers, more strain on our courts, and a 2000-mile border wall will cost billions. That money has to come from somewhere. Ask yourself, “What government agencies and services am I willing to give up in order to pay for this?”

This piece was co-authored by Kim Hansen, Anne Hoyt and Nancey Velez-Anderson. Hoyt, of Geneva, is an adjunct instructor for the Humanities and Adult Basic Education departments at Finger Lakes Community College and has master’s degrees in journalism from Syracuse. She is a former writer for the Finger Lakes Times.
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#1496546 --- 03/12/17 04:18 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: kyle585]
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This person needs to do some homework. Just look at California, besides migrant workers have green cards and are legal. This article is totally off base as usual for the FL Times.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/dec/6/20041206-102115-6766r/


Edited by scwoodchuck (03/12/17 04:21 PM)
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#1496548 --- 03/12/17 04:29 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Headless Horseman
Those aren't Ovid residents. They were brought in from Ithaca.

Astroturfed fake news
How many apple growers are there in Ithaca?

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Among the final topics discussed at the meeting was immigration. The crowd made it clear to the congressman they did not want a wall at the Mexican border. An apple grower wanted to know whether or not Reed has a ready and willing workforce to take the place of the immigrants that will be sent back to Mexico when the wall is built.


https://indiancreekithaca.com/whats-ripe-now/
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#1496549 --- 03/12/17 04:34 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: scwoodchuck]
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"From Ithaca". That's funny. Ithaca is part of the 23rd.

I have many friends in Ovid. It's an insult to believe that nobody in Ovid has the depth to question a politician.

Sorry if we are supposed to believe Tom should serve without accountability.

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#1496551 --- 03/12/17 04:47 PM Re: Reed smoked by hot Ovid crowd [Re: Teonan]
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Originally Posted By: Teonan

And you thought


what is hillary up to?
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#1496556 --- 03/12/17 06:53 PM Re: Reed smoked by hot Ovid crowd [Re: bluezone]
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She may be behind some of the protesting

http://www.ajc.com/news/national/hillary-clinton-debuts-new-haircut/ARC7xdrHqhempPWGAewXyO/

crazy. And you thought it was grassroots
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#1496557 --- 03/12/17 07:33 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: Top Dog]
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You're slipping Top Dog. Really want to know where all the protesters are coming from ? Just check out the Facebook page of any Democratic Committee in the counties in Reed's district.
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#1496558 --- 03/12/17 08:24 PM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Clue me in. I don't "like" their page like you do so I don't see as much.

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#1496562 --- 03/13/17 06:10 AM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: Top Dog]
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You're a Democrat aren't you ? Couldn't you get Teddy and Duprey, Churchill out of bed ? Didn't see them in the pictures grin
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#1496566 --- 03/13/17 09:59 AM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: scwoodchuck]
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I think Churchill only goes to those kinds of things if somebody is paying him crazy
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#1496568 --- 03/13/17 10:17 AM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: Hello_Governer]
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http://www.npr.org/2017/02/22/516527499/...onal-town-halls

Republican members of Congress aren't exactly getting a warm welcome in their home districts during this week's recess.

Angry constituents have confronted legislators at town halls across the country, upset over everything from the GOP's plan to repeal and replace Obamacare, the Trump White House's travel ban, alleged Russian interference in the U.S. elections and more. New York Rep. Tom Reed, for example, faced these questions in a series of town halls he held over the weekend.

The backlash is happening in some deep red places, stretching from Reed's western New York district to Kentucky and Iowa. Some national Republicans — and President Trump in a Tuesday night tweet — have tried to dismiss the progressive activists helping to organize the protests.

However, their statements almost mirror the arguments Democrats made in 2009 to explain away backlash at town halls that summer over the health care law. How did that work out? Democrats got a "shellacking" at the ballot box in November 2010.
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#1496570 --- 03/13/17 11:05 AM Re: Reed smoked by professional protestors [Re: scwoodchuck]
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You're a Democrat aren't you ?


Nope.

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