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#1497169 --- 03/30/17 04:47 PM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Exactly where to build the wall is something I had not thought about. Does the Trump administration really think Mexico would let us build it on their land? What are they drinking?

http://www.salon.com/2017/03/29/interior...the-rio-grande/

There is virtually no chance that President Donald Trump’s proposed wall along the U.S.-Mexico border will be paid for by Mexico — despite his repeated campaign pledges — and now the White House is signaling that the massive construction project may not even take place inside U.S. territory.

Trump’s Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke made the media rounds this week to sell the president’s efforts to roll back environmental protections. The former Montana congressman promised a “very pro-Western” administration that plans to relax protections for threatened jaguars, which live in northern Mexico and parts of the U.S. Southwest, in order to build Trump’s border wall.

But Zinke, as admitted to energy and environmental outlet E&E News, Trump’s wall may even have to be built on Mexican territory, not American territory, in accordance with the terrain along the border.

“The border is complicated, as far as building a physical wall,” Zinke told E&E News’ Corbin Hiar. “The Rio Grande, what side of the river are you going to put the wall? We’re not going to put it on our side and cede the river to Mexico. And we’re probably not going to put it in the middle of the river.”

According to international treaties signed between the U.S. and Mexico, the 1,200-mile long Rio Grande is the official border between the two countries.

Several hundred miles of border property isn't even government owned. smirk
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#1497208 --- 03/31/17 12:05 PM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: Timbo]
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HOW TO BE BILLIONAIRE - NOT.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/31/news/trump-university-settlement/index.html?adkey=bn

Thousands of former Trump University students will get most of their money back, with a judge on Friday approving a $25 million settlement.

"The settlement is fair, adequate, and reasonable," Judge Gonzalo Curiel said in his decision.

Nearly 4,000 former students submitted claims and those who are eligible could get back about 90% of their money.

The settlement was agreed to last November, just 10 days after Donald Trump won the presidential election, but still needed court approval.

Trump University was created in 2005, and promised to teach students investing techniques they could use to get rich in real estate -- just like Trump.

A "one-year apprenticeship" at Trump University cost $1,495, according to court documents, while a "membership" cost at least $10,000 and the "Gold Elite," the seminar's most expensive class, cost $35,000.

Trump University effectively closed in 2010, the same year the New York Department of Education directed the program to stop operating without a license.

In advertisements for Trump University, Trump said he "hand-picked" the instructors, but he did not remember a single instructor during a deposition.

The November settlement brought together former Trump University students from three lawsuits: two federal class-action suits in San Diego, and a separate one brought by New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman.

The approval of the settlement had been opposed by one former student, Sherri B. Simpson, who thought she could get more money by going to trial. Simpson told CNN she spent about $20,000 on Trump University courses in 2010.

Judge Curiel dismissed Simpson's objection. "That only one procedurally valid objection was filed... is indicative of the fairness, adequacy, and reasonableness of the Settlement," he said.


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#1497216 --- 03/31/17 01:25 PM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: kyle585]
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Trump criticizes congress, the courts, the leaders of Mexico, Australia, UK, and Germany. The only person he doesn't criticize is Putin who he calls smart and a great leader. Trump is guilty as hell. I hope we are able to prove that before he goes off the deep end and starts WWIII because he can't stand losing.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/31/opinions/t...itis/index.html

The Russian interference, which former Vice President Dick Cheney labeled an "act of war," is a serious matter. But if the sitting President of the United States and his team coordinated with a hostile power, the issue would be infinitely more serious. It would raise questions not only about President Trump's legitimacy but also about the motivation for his policy decisions going forward.

That's why it is baffling that Trump is not doing everything in his power to clear his name. Like every person, Trump deserves the presumption of innocence. Fairness demands that we assume he is innocent and then look at the evidence to see if contradicts that assumption.

Trump has two choices. He can work to clear his name, to demonstrate his innocence, or he can fight the investigation. If he is, indeed, innocent, getting all the facts on the table, giving his version of events, would serve his cause. If he has something to hide, it may make more sense to disrupt the probe.

Trump and his advisers seem to be doing the opposite of what one would expect from an innocent party. In the meantime, the questions keep mounting; the record of unreported meetings, questionable decisions, and baffling efforts to push the country's attention in a different direction make it look as if the administration has something to hide.

Now, Trump's former National Security Adviser Mike Flynn -- fired in a storm of controversy after unreported meetings with Russia's ambassador -- wants immunity from prosecution to tell his story. He once said, "When you're given immunity... you probably committed a crime." Trump himself has argued that seeking immunity is a sign of guilt, but on Friday, he tweeted, "Mike Flynn should ask for immunity in that this is a witch hunt (excuse for big election loss), by media & Dems, of historic proportion!"

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#1497218 --- 03/31/17 01:47 PM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: kyle585]
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Joe Walsh&#8207;Verified account @WalshFreedom 49m49 minutes ago

So if there was no collusion, why is Team Trump doing all they can to not find out what happened? Don't they want to know what Russia did?
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#1497233 --- 03/31/17 05:08 PM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: kyle585]
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Donald Trump is more concerned about his thin skinned tweets rather than our global security.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/31/politics/terrorist-laptop-bombs-may-evade-security/index.html

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#1497236 --- 03/31/17 05:45 PM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: Formermac]
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Jokes on you! While Dems are crying "but, but Russia" Trump's moving right along with his agenda.

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#1497242 --- 03/31/17 06:44 PM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: luckyduck]
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Yes, destroy everything in his path, decimate, lie, cheat, tweet, bully, disrespect, loud mouth and ignorant, all the attributes to become a huge failure...OH!!! Now I see the reasons for his inability to get anything done but sign executive orders, something that even a high school student can do.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/rig...m=.2f9aa99fe557

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#1497244 --- 03/31/17 07:02 PM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: luckyduck]
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Originally Posted By: luckyduck
Jokes on you! While Dems are crying "but, but Russia" Trump's moving right along with his agenda.

And getting virtually nowhere in the process. whistle
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#1497246 --- 03/31/17 07:08 PM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: Timbo]
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What's funny is the fact that Obama and Hillary were accused of a few GOP lead rumors but all were unfounded, today we have Trump and several of his surrogates scrambling for cover, why? if they did nothing wrong, why all the lying, distractions, deflection and attempt to hide their actions?

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#1497247 --- 03/31/17 08:02 PM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: Timbo]
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Distract and deflect, both sides do it, both sides use it as a tool to keep the public from contemplating the real issues. And the victims of this game are those who allow themselves to get pulled into the trap in the name of idealogy.

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#1497249 --- 03/31/17 08:34 PM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: luckyduck]
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Originally Posted By: luckyduck
Distract and deflect, both sides do it, both sides use it as a tool to keep the public from contemplating the real issues. And the victims of this game are those who allow themselves to get pulled into the trap in the name of idealogy.




Ideology, yes we have seen this in other countries with dictators who attempt to rule with a iron fist. Only fools get as you put it "pulled" into a trap but negate to consider the consequences, which in this case, a fool who is obviously way in over his head and Liberals saw that from day one when Trump announced his candidacy.

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#1497250 --- 03/31/17 08:39 PM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: Formermac]
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What part of the GOP vernacular did you miss when most Republicans leaders stated that Trump was unfit or was mentally unstable to be president, I can cite those occasions for you. whistle

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#1497252 --- 03/31/17 11:44 PM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: luckyduck]
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Originally Posted By: luckyduck
Distract and deflect, both sides do it, both sides use it as a tool to keep the public from contemplating the real issues. And the victims of this game are those who allow themselves to get pulled into the trap in the name of idealogy.

RUBBISH... EVERYTHING has an ideology. The question is whether (or not) the ideology squares with the facts... PERIOD.

Both 'sides' as you put it, suggests that it's anywhere near that childishly simplistic. I submit that it is that precise king of thinking (us vs them, as you are so clearly framing matters) that gives birth to such practices of ideology over fact.
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#1497253 --- 04/01/17 03:21 AM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Now I see the reasons for his inability to get anything done but sign executive orders, something that even a high school student can do.
Are you sure? LOL

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/31/politics/donald-trump-executive-order-signing-walk-out/index.html

President Donald Trump walked out of an executive order signing ceremony Friday -- without actually signing the orders.

During the signing ceremony, White House pool reporters asked Trump questions about his former national security adviser Michael Flynn, who has offered to testify on Russian involvement in the US election in return for immunity from prosecution.
The President ignored the questions and moved to another room, only to be chased by Vice President Mike Pence, who picked up the folders containing the two executive orders.

Trump later signed the pair of orders aimed at identifying and targeting foreign trade abuses, according to the White House, but behind closed doors.

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#1497256 --- 04/01/17 08:04 AM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: luckyduck]
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Originally Posted By: luckyduck
Jokes on you! While Dems are crying "but, but Russia" Trump's moving right along with his agenda.



Yes the Liberals are laughing.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/31/politics/donald-trump-white-house-presidency/index.html

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#1497263 --- 04/01/17 11:16 AM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Originally Posted By: luckyduck
Jokes on you! While Dems are crying "but, but Russia" Trump's moving right along with his agenda.



Yes the Liberals are laughing.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/31/politics/donald-trump-white-house-presidency/index.html


And 75% of the country is tired of you liberals!
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#1497266 --- 04/01/17 12:28 PM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Really, why is the popularity rating for Trump at 35%? which BTW is a record low and the healthcare package the GOP attempted to push down the throat of the American people stood at 17%? Things that make you go HMMMMMM grin

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#1497272 --- 04/02/17 02:10 AM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Originally Posted By: luckyduck
Jokes on you! While Dems are crying "but, but Russia" Trump's moving right along with his agenda.

Yes the Liberals are laughing.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/31/politics/donald-trump-white-house-presidency/index.html
And 75% of the country is tired of you liberals!
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-polls-differ-on-trumps-popularity/

Here’s what we can say for sure: It’s unprecedented for a president to face so much opposition from the electorate so soon. Recent polls show that anywhere between 43 and 56 percent of Americans disapprove of President Trump’s job performance. Even if you take the low end of that range, Trump’s numbers are much worse than any past president a month into his term.

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#1497273 --- 04/02/17 02:29 AM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Originally Posted By: luckyduck
Jokes on you! While Dems are crying "but, but Russia" Trump's moving right along with his agenda.
Yes the Liberals are laughing.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/31/politics/donald-trump-white-house-presidency/index.html
And 75% of the country is tired of you liberals!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trum...3aj4gkqpvi&

President Donald Trump’s job approval ratings are low in any context, but they look even worse through a historical lens.

Gallup’s latest poll, issued Friday, shows 38 percent of American adults approve of the job Trump is doing as president, and 56 percent disapprove.

That’s comparable to some of the ratings his predecessors saw. But what’s different is the timing. It took far more than a year before presidents from Ronald Reagan through Barack Obama earned the disapproval of a majority of the public, according to Gallup. It took Trump just over a week.

Trump, barely two months into his presidency, is well within the “honeymoon period” that other presidents have enjoyed. Despite a wave of high-profile controversies and setbacks, including the failure of the Obamacare repeal bill, his White House has yet to face a recession, a major international incident or any sort of crisis beyond the self-inflicted.

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#1497274 --- 04/02/17 04:20 AM Re: "Unhinged & Dangerous: [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.snopes.com/trump-considering-resignation/

On 31 March 2017, a number of web sites (including Opposing Views and Proud Liberal) posted articles reporting that United States President Donald Trump was considering resigning. The web sites all cited a tweet posted by Claude Taylor, a travel photographer who says he worked as a staffer in the Clinton White House:

An ind journalist I have worked with-who has been reliable-says they have 2 sources that say Trump is considering options-incl resignation.

— Claude Taylor (@TrueFactsStated) March 31, 2017


We reached out to Taylor on Twitter but have not received a response. Because the claim is hearsay, based on an unnamed source quoting other unnamed sources, it is impossible to verify without further information.

The rumor seems couched in the apparently darkening cloud surrounding President Trump’s former National Security Adviser, Michael Flynn, who resigned after 24 days in office over revelations he had misled Vice President Mike Pence about his meetings with a Russian envoy. On 30 March, the Wall Street Journal broke news that Flynn offered authorities and intelligence officials an interview in exchange for immunity against prosecution.

It is not the first time questions have floated about the 45th president’s tenure in office. On 17 March 2017, Sen. Diane Feinstein told an activists in her home state of California who asked how Trump could be removed from office: ““We have a lot of people looking at this, technical people. And I think he is going to get himself out.” She went on to say that Trump’s adult children traveling overseas for private business purposes while spending taxpayer money to do so should be illegal.

The resignation of a U.S. president has only happened once in history — Richard Nixon resigned in 1974 amid the Watergate scandal. President Trump has made no public indication of any intent to resign.

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