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#1496172 --- 03/04/17 06:05 PM Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions
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Non-Denial ‘Denial’: Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions

by Matthew Boyle4 Mar 2017,

A number of ex-Obama officials appear to suggest that the Obama administration may have actually wiretapped the Trump campaign

Breitbart News
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#1496173 --- 03/04/17 06:18 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Floating that fool's bait to flash your own gullibility. You're truly a piece of work Tommyboy...



With No Evidence, Trump Accuses Obama of Wiretapping Trump Tower
The president tweeted out the accusations from his resort in Palm Beach

Read on http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/03/04/no-evidence-trump-accuses-obama-wiretapping-trump-tower
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#1496174 --- 03/04/17 06:28 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: ThomasDecker]
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That tin foil hat may be receiving some intergalactic signal.

I see why you're a Trumpster, you sound just like him. NOW for a little surprise son, maybe I for once agree with you. Ever thought about the fact that dozens of individuals are being investigated as we speak, including Trump's son-in-law, a mental challenge for you, if you're POTUS and the FBI, Central intelligence etc. states to you that they have significant evident that the Russians are hacking our electronic infrastructure, what would you do if the purported incidents were originating from the Trump Tower besides lie in your response? whistle
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#1496177 --- 03/04/17 06:48 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: Formermac]
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To add to your wild spin of spying just for the sake of spying, lets indulge you a little. A Black man had the audacity to run for POTUS and the people had the audacity to vote for him.....I'll be "whipped if he didn't win that DAGGONE thang" Now Tommy, remember the back room deals involving key Republicans who were not only surprised but very incensed that Obama won. Don't think for a moment that these same individuals didn't ILLEGALLY wiretapped Obama's personal life looking for anything and everything to impeach this man, unlike Trump, the loud mouthed fool stated in front of millions of viewer, please Mr. Putin, hack Hillary's E-Mail, yes the fool invited the FBI and the CIA as well to get involved.Too bad that logic fails you and Trump. Maybe your ignorant POTUS is aiming his "ignorance" at the wrong entity.


Edited by Formermac (03/04/17 07:03 PM)
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#1496178 --- 03/04/17 07:07 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: Formermac]
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Woosh! An unexpected backdraft. Toasted Trumpet for Sunday brunch anyone?

CA lawmaker: Trump's in 'deep sh*t'—admission of wiretap means congressional investigation

By Leslie Salzillo
Saturday Mar 04, 2017 · 5:36 PM EST

After Donald Trump claimed President Obama had tapped Trump’s phones prior to the 2016 election, a congressman from California, Rep. Ted Lieu (D-CA), tweeted if that’s true, if Trump’s phone calls were tapped, Trump is in “deep sh*t” and may want to lawyer up because that would mean a federal judge would have found probably cause of a crime. A little later in the day, Lieu also tweets that Trump’s admission will be the catalyst to a congressional probe.

Backing up, here are screenshots of Trump’s Saturday morning Twitter spews. (Screenshots because why give him more page views? Terrible!)


Well worth reading: http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/4...-s-in-deep-sh-t
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#1496179 --- 03/04/17 07:13 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: ThomasDecker]
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#1496180 --- 03/04/17 07:15 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: Teonan]
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Originally Posted By: Teonan

Woosh! An unexpected backdraft. Toasted Trumpet anyone?

CA lawmaker: Trump's in 'deep sh*t'—admission of wiretap means congressional investigation

By Leslie Salzillo
Saturday Mar 04, 2017 · 5:36 PM EST

After Donald Trump claimed President Obama had tapped Trump’s phones prior to the 2016 election, a congressman from California, Rep. Ted Lieu (D-CA), tweeted if that’s true, if Trump’s phone calls were tapped, Trump is in “deep sh*t” and may want to lawyer up because that would mean a federal judge would have found probably cause of a crime. A little later in the day, Lieu also tweets that Trump’s admission will be the catalyst to a congressional probe.

Backing up, here are screenshots of Trump’s Saturday morning Twitter spews. (Screenshots because why give him more page views? Terrible!)

A must read: http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/4...-s-in-deep-sh-t



Don't you mean, Mr. Obama may want to lawyer up!
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#1496181 --- 03/04/17 07:19 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: ThomasDecker]
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No. I do not.

Twit Trump tweeted the perfect storm for his own demise.
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#1496182 --- 03/04/17 07:22 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: ThomasDecker]
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You are actually this stupid, and to think, I believed that you were feigning stupidity. You gave us the law, no president can illegally tap a private citizen's personal life but in your own buffoonery you once again played a Trump, if a security agency suspects illegal activities, they in turn inform the Commander In Chief and Court Justice of said activities, where does it go from there son? I know, everyone just sits on it like the Trump administration wish could happen now. grin
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#1496183 --- 03/04/17 07:28 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: Teonan]
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No. I do not.

Trump Tweeted the perfect storm for his own demise.



Right on Teo, Trump reminds me of Shemp from the 3 Stooges, he was his own worse enemy but constantly got everyone else caught up in the error of comedy as well.


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#1496184 --- 03/04/17 07:53 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Teonan

No. I do not.

Trump Tweeted the perfect storm for his own demise.

Right on Teo, Trump reminds me of Shemp from the 3 Stooges, he was his own worse enemy but constantly got everyone else caught up in the error of comedy as well.


THAT did it Mac. So true. grin

Time for a little comic relief...enjoy!

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/72/d2/45/72d24533168660a3a8f97734bdb3dd26.jpg
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#1496185 --- 03/04/17 08:05 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: Teonan]
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I feel the need to clarify my statement, the correct pronunciation is Comedy of errors but I choose to invert it due to the fact that Tommy attempts to create a diversion by going to a "headline making announcement" only to have another error in judgement which is becoming all too comical.
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#1496188 --- 03/04/17 08:20 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: ThomasDecker]
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#1496190 --- 03/04/17 08:29 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: ThomasDecker]
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In actuality, millions of people knew that Trump was under surveillance, one of the reason he got 3 million votes less than Hillary, the only surprise? the fool received more electoral and it may come to light as well that Russian interference stole those. whistle
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#1496191 --- 03/04/17 08:35 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: Formermac]
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I wish I were a fly on the wall at Trump's Florida home at this present time, imagine the screaming, profanity, fist pounding, hair flying, a** reaming and to think, that's directed at the maids serving his dinner before Jeff Session arrive for his own personal meeting.
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#1496192 --- 03/04/17 08:53 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: Formermac]
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In an effort to extend an act of unity, I would like to lower my standard by offering this article from a credible source just like you.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/861336/russians-claim-to-have-compromising-info-on-trump-report
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#1496194 --- 03/05/17 03:30 AM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: Formermac]
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http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-ho...e-claim-n729196

During the Vietnam War there was a popular slogan: "Suppose they gave a war and nobody came?"

On Saturday, President Donald Trump posed a new question: Suppose the commander-in-chief declared a massive political scandal — and nobody cared?


It was an explosive allegation that raised immediate questions about both the Obama administration's behavior and the status of investigations into Trump associates' relationship to Russia, which the intelligence community has accused of a hacking campaign to aid Trump politically.

And then ... not much happened.

The White House didn't outwardly treat the president's public accusations against a former president as particularly urgent business either. As of Saturday evening, his staff had not put out any follow-up statements.

Obama spokesman Kevin Lewis said neither Obama nor any White House official ever ordered any surveillance of Trump or any U.S. citizen, but did not address whether such surveillance had occurred.

In ordinary times, such an accusation would send both parties and the White House scrambling into action with demands and counter-demands for an immediate investigation. But Trump is not an ordinary president and the initial response from his own side was so muted as to barely be audible.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Speaker Paul Ryan did not respond to requests for comment Saturday, although Ryan told Fox News on Friday that he did not think the Obama administration surveilled Trump's campaign aides.


The other side didn't seem too compelled to respond either. Rep. Adam Schiff, D-California, the ranking Democrat of the House Intelligence Committee, called Trump's claim "outlandish and destructive" in a statement.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-California, issued a single tweet calling Trump "Deflector-in-Chief" and reiterating her call for an independent commission. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-New York, gave no public comment at all as of Saturday evening.

What happened? They had seen this movie before. First, the president issues an incendiary claim. Then, a firestorm erupts. When the smoke settles, it becomes clear the president was making a charge without evidence to back it up, often by parroting a sympathetic commentator or a fringe supporter.

The president's past eruptions often followed a difficult news cycle. The current questions swirling around Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who had recused himself from any investigation involving the Trump campaign after failing to mention conversations with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, clearly fit the bill.

In short, it was business as usual. But the fact that this pattern had become so established, so normal, was on its own a shocking moment in American politics.
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#1496195 --- 03/05/17 03:32 AM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Non-Denial ‘Denial’: Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions

by Matthew Boyle4 Mar 2017,

A number of ex-Obama officials appear to suggest that the Obama administration may have actually wiretapped the Trump campaign

Breitbart News
You are quoting Breitbart News? Oh I understand it all now. You and our so-called president get your mis-information from the same source.
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#1496196 --- 03/05/17 03:35 AM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker


The only thing worse than a sore loser is a sore winner.
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#1496199 --- 03/05/17 07:22 AM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: kyle585]
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LOL, so true, the "cryer in chief" worries more about the media than foreign dictators. Mr. thin-skinned hides in his winter resort, screaming because he has been exposed in regard to his lies, cheating and unethical affairs while the country deals with increased anti Semitic acts and protesters clashing on the streets. Remember that state address on Tuesday? after all the debacles and stumbles since then, who can remember what he said? grin
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#1496200 --- 03/05/17 07:30 AM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585

The only thing worse than a sore loser is a sore winner.


Sore enough to strike the match for self-immolation apparently...


Here Are Three Terrifying, Possible Reasons for Trump’s Latest Rant

By Robert Reich / RobertReich.org

Posted on Mar 5, 2017


Early Saturday morning, March 4, the 45th president of the United States alleged in a series of tweets that former president Barack Obama orchestrated a “Nixon/Watergate” plot to tap Trump’s phones at his Trump Tower headquarters last fall in the run-up to the election. Trump concluded that the former president is a “Bad (or sick) guy!”

Trump cited no evidence for his accusation.

Folks, we’ve got a huge problem on our hands. Either:

1. Trump is more nuts than we suspected – a true delusional paranoid who shouldn’t be anywhere near the nuclear codes that could obliterate the planet, or near anything else that could determine the fate of America or the world.

2. Or Trump’s outburst was triggered by commentary in the “alt-right” publication, Breitbart News, on Friday, which reported an assertion made Thursday night by right-wing talk-radio host Mark Levin suggesting Obama and his administration used “police state” tactics last fall to monitor the Trump team’s dealings with Russian operatives.

But if this was the case, we’ve got a president willing to put the prestige and power of his office behind baseless claims emanating from well-known right-wing purveyors of lies. That means Trump still shouldn’t be anywhere near the nuclear codes that could obliterate the planet or anywhere else he could do damage.

3. The third possibility is that Trump is correct, and the Obama administration did in fact tap his phones. But if this was the case, before the tap could occur it’s highly likely Trump committed a very serious crime, including treason.

No president can order a wiretap on his own. For federal agents to obtain a wiretap on Trump, or anyone else, the Justice Department would first have had to convince a federal judge that it had gathered sufficient evidence of probable cause to believe Trump had committed a serious crime or was an agent of a foreign power, depending on whether it was a criminal or foreign intelligence wiretap. In which case we have someone in the White House who shouldn’t be making decisions that could endanger America or the world.

What other explanation could there be for Trump’s Saturday rant? He’s been known to use tweets to divert attention from news stories he doesn’t want the public and the media to focus on. So was Trump seeking to divert public attention from the Jeff Sessions imbroglio and the increasing number of Trump associates found to have been in contact with Russian agents before and after the election?

That seems unlikely because Trump’s trumped-up charge of wiretapping isn’t really a distraction at all. Even if you accept Trump’s version of events, why would the Obama administration have been collecting information on Trump if not because of Trump’s purported Russian connections? Trump’s accusation thereby focuses even more attention on the possibility he conspired with the Russians to win the election.

Or is Trump trying to build a case that the entire Russian story is a plot concocted by the Obama Administration, along with the CIA, FBI, and National Security Agency, and the mainstream press, to bring Trump down?

In this case, he’s either paranoid (back to problem #1), or he really is trying to hide a nefarious collaboration that in fact occurred (back to problem #3).

So there you have it. Whatever the reason for Trump’s rant, America is in deep trouble. We have a president who is either a dangerous paranoid, or is making judgments based on right-wing crackpots, or has in all likelihood committed treason.

Each of these possible reasons is as terrifying as the other.
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#1496201 --- 03/05/17 07:35 AM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Obama Advisor Rhodes Is Wrong: The President Can Order A Wiretap, And Why Trump May Have The Last Laugh



by Tyler Durden
Mar 4, 2017 6:25 PM

Following Trump's stunning allegation that Obama wiretapped the Trump Tower in October of 2016, prior to the presidential election, which may or may not have been sourced from a Breitbart story, numerous Democrats and media pundits have come out with scathing accusations that Trump is either mentally disturbed, or simply has no idea what he is talking about.

The best example of this came from Ben Rhodes, a former senior adviser to President Obama in his role as deputy National Security Advisor, who slammed Trump's accusation, insisting that "No President can order a wiretap. Those restrictions were put in place to protect citizens from people like you." He also said "only a liar" could make the case, as Trump suggested, that Obama wire tapped Trump Tower ahead of the election.


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-04...may-have-last-l

"In Chapter 36 of Title 50 of the US Code *War and National Defense", Subchapter 1, Section 1802, we read the following:

(1) Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that—

(A) the electronic surveillance is solely directed at—
(i) the acquisition of the contents of communications transmitted by means of communications used exclusively between or among foreign powers, as defined in section 1801(a)(1), (2), or (3) of this title; or
(ii) the acquisition of technical intelligence, other than the spoken communications of individuals, from property or premises under the open and exclusive control of a foreign power, as defined in section 1801(a)(1), (2), or (3) of this title;

(B) there is no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party; and

(C) the proposed minimization procedures with respect to such surveillance meet the definition of minimization procedures under section 1801(h) of this title; and
if the Attorney General reports such minimization procedures and any changes thereto to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence at least thirty days prior to their effective date, unless the Attorney General determines immediate action is required and notifies the committees immediately of such minimization procedures and the reason for their becoming effective immediately."


Its time for Mr. Obama to pay for his crimes against the American people!
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#1496202 --- 03/05/17 07:50 AM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: Teonan]
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Originally Posted By: Teonan
Originally Posted By: kyle585

The only thing worse than a sore loser is a sore winner.


Sore enough to strike the match for self-immolation apparently...


Here Are Three Terrifying, Possible Reasons for Trump’s Latest Rant

By Robert Reich / RobertReich.org

Posted on Mar 5, 2017


Early Saturday morning, March 4, the 45th president of the United States alleged in a series of tweets that former president Barack Obama orchestrated a “Nixon/Watergate” plot to tap Trump’s phones at his Trump Tower headquarters last fall in the run-up to the election. Trump concluded that the former president is a “Bad (or sick) guy!”

Trump cited no evidence for his accusation.

Folks, we’ve got a huge problem on our hands. Either:

1. Trump is more nuts than we suspected – a true delusional paranoid who shouldn’t be anywhere near the nuclear codes that could obliterate the planet, or near anything else that could determine the fate of America or the world.

2. Or Trump’s outburst was triggered by commentary in the “alt-right” publication, Breitbart News, on Friday, which reported an assertion made Thursday night by right-wing talk-radio host Mark Levin suggesting Obama and his administration used “police state” tactics last fall to monitor the Trump team’s dealings with Russian operatives.

But if this was the case, we’ve got a president willing to put the prestige and power of his office behind baseless claims emanating from well-known right-wing purveyors of lies. That means Trump still shouldn’t be anywhere near the nuclear codes that could obliterate the planet or anywhere else he could do damage.

3. The third possibility is that Trump is correct, and the Obama administration did in fact tap his phones. But if this was the case, before the tap could occur it’s highly likely Trump committed a very serious crime, including treason.

No president can order a wiretap on his own. For federal agents to obtain a wiretap on Trump, or anyone else, the Justice Department would first have had to convince a federal judge that it had gathered sufficient evidence of probable cause to believe Trump had committed a serious crime or was an agent of a foreign power, depending on whether it was a criminal or foreign intelligence wiretap. In which case we have someone in the White House who shouldn’t be making decisions that could endanger America or the world.

What other explanation could there be for Trump’s Saturday rant? He’s been known to use tweets to divert attention from news stories he doesn’t want the public and the media to focus on. So was Trump seeking to divert public attention from the Jeff Sessions imbroglio and the increasing number of Trump associates found to have been in contact with Russian agents before and after the election?

That seems unlikely because Trump’s trumped-up charge of wiretapping isn’t really a distraction at all. Even if you accept Trump’s version of events, why would the Obama administration have been collecting information on Trump if not because of Trump’s purported Russian connections? Trump’s accusation thereby focuses even more attention on the possibility he conspired with the Russians to win the election.

Or is Trump trying to build a case that the entire Russian story is a plot concocted by the Obama Administration, along with the CIA, FBI, and National Security Agency, and the mainstream press, to bring Trump down?

In this case, he’s either paranoid (back to problem #1), or he really is trying to hide a nefarious collaboration that in fact occurred (back to problem #3).

So there you have it. Whatever the reason for Trump’s rant, America is in deep trouble. We have a president who is either a dangerous paranoid, or is making judgments based on right-wing crackpots, or has in all likelihood committed treason.

Each of these possible reasons is as terrifying as the other.




So to put in layman's terms, anyway you look at it, Trump is showing the world the behavior most smart Liberals knew about 30 years ago, when we noticed this snotty nosed rich brat falsely thinking that the world revolves around him, well it appears that millions of naive or at least vile enough to elect him for the sake of ruining the country and who were willing to put their hatred and racism to the forefront. Bottom line, his supporters knew his propensity for drama but never suspecting that it would get this bad but realistically so, it's not a pleasant proposition when most of the world and two thirds of the US can say "I told you so" What's a supporter to do besides get on board with Trump and continue to lie and use underground unsubstantiated reports to support their lies?
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#1496203 --- 03/05/17 07:51 AM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker

Its time for Mr. Obama to pay for his crimes against the American people!


Better switch up from your breakfast orange juice to Amisol Severe Gear 75/140. You've got a savage grind happenin' there Tommyboy. whistle
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#1496204 --- 03/05/17 07:53 AM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: Teonan]
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Better yet, some lite weight, you know how the heavy viscosity lubes get in the cold weather.
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#1496205 --- 03/05/17 08:00 AM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Originally Posted By: Teonan
Originally Posted By: kyle585

The only thing worse than a sore loser is a sore winner.


Sore enough to strike the match for self-immolation apparently...


Here Are Three Terrifying, Possible Reasons for Trump’s Latest Rant

By Robert Reich / RobertReich.org

Posted on Mar 5, 2017


Early Saturday morning, March 4, the 45th president of the United States alleged in a series of tweets that former president Barack Obama orchestrated a “Nixon/Watergate” plot to tap Trump’s phones at his Trump Tower headquarters last fall in the run-up to the election. Trump concluded that the former president is a “Bad (or sick) guy!”

Trump cited no evidence for his accusation.

Folks, we’ve got a huge problem on our hands. Either:

1. Trump is more nuts than we suspected – a true delusional paranoid who shouldn’t be anywhere near the nuclear codes that could obliterate the planet, or near anything else that could determine the fate of America or the world.

2. Or Trump’s outburst was triggered by commentary in the “alt-right” publication, Breitbart News, on Friday, which reported an assertion made Thursday night by right-wing talk-radio host Mark Levin suggesting Obama and his administration used “police state” tactics last fall to monitor the Trump team’s dealings with Russian operatives.

But if this was the case, we’ve got a president willing to put the prestige and power of his office behind baseless claims emanating from well-known right-wing purveyors of lies. That means Trump still shouldn’t be anywhere near the nuclear codes that could obliterate the planet or anywhere else he could do damage.

3. The third possibility is that Trump is correct, and the Obama administration did in fact tap his phones. But if this was the case, before the tap could occur it’s highly likely Trump committed a very serious crime, including treason.

No president can order a wiretap on his own. For federal agents to obtain a wiretap on Trump, or anyone else, the Justice Department would first have had to convince a federal judge that it had gathered sufficient evidence of probable cause to believe Trump had committed a serious crime or was an agent of a foreign power, depending on whether it was a criminal or foreign intelligence wiretap. In which case we have someone in the White House who shouldn’t be making decisions that could endanger America or the world.

What other explanation could there be for Trump’s Saturday rant? He’s been known to use tweets to divert attention from news stories he doesn’t want the public and the media to focus on. So was Trump seeking to divert public attention from the Jeff Sessions imbroglio and the increasing number of Trump associates found to have been in contact with Russian agents before and after the election?

That seems unlikely because Trump’s trumped-up charge of wiretapping isn’t really a distraction at all. Even if you accept Trump’s version of events, why would the Obama administration have been collecting information on Trump if not because of Trump’s purported Russian connections? Trump’s accusation thereby focuses even more attention on the possibility he conspired with the Russians to win the election.

Or is Trump trying to build a case that the entire Russian story is a plot concocted by the Obama Administration, along with the CIA, FBI, and National Security Agency, and the mainstream press, to bring Trump down?

In this case, he’s either paranoid (back to problem #1), or he really is trying to hide a nefarious collaboration that in fact occurred (back to problem #3).

So there you have it. Whatever the reason for Trump’s rant, America is in deep trouble. We have a president who is either a dangerous paranoid, or is making judgments based on right-wing crackpots, or has in all likelihood committed treason.

Each of these possible reasons is as terrifying as the other.




So to put in layman's terms, anyway you look at it, Trump is showing the world the behavior most smart Liberals knew about 30 years ago, when we noticed this snotty nosed rich brat falsely thinking that the world revolves around him, well it appears that millions of naive or at least vile enough to elect him for the sake of ruining the country and who were willing to put their hatred and racism to the forefront. Bottom line, his supporters knew his propensity for drama but never suspecting that it would get this bad but realistically so, it's not a pleasant proposition when most of the world and two thirds of the US can say "I told you so" What's a supporter to do besides get on board with Trump and continue to lie and use underground unsubstantiated reports to support their lies?

Yep. Trump's zombies willingly stagger into those flames until the bitter end.
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#1496206 --- 03/05/17 08:35 AM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: ThomasDecker]
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It's time to arrest Mr. Obama, and his corrupt staff.
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Better replace those rusty bearings in that empty brainpan Tommyboy. You runnin' dry man.

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Former DNI James Clapper: ‘I Can Deny’ Wiretap of Trump Tower

by Kailani Koenig

WASHINGTON — Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper on Sunday denied any suggestion that Trump Tower communications were wiretapped before the election.

For the part of the national security apparatus that he oversaw, "there was no such wiretap activity mounted against the president, the president-elect at the time, or as a candidate, or against his campaign," Clapper told Chuck Todd in an exclusive interview on Sunday's "Meet The Press."

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics...p-tower-n729261
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#1496211 --- 03/05/17 12:01 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker

Its time for Mr. Obama to pay for his crimes against the American people!


Note to Mr. Decker: Please be advised out that in order for your attempts at political diversion to succeed, the chosen distraction must contain at least a morsel of evidence, if one hopes to take attention away from the rapidly mounting evidence that, in fact, DOES exist (regardless of how many Trumplodytes eagerly slurp up your gruel).
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Tommyboy and Trump's diversionary tactics. Note the fine tuned machine in operation in the background
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#1496231 --- 03/05/17 06:19 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: Formermac]
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I find Comey's request quite astonishing considering his previous actions during the election.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-...-claims-n729351

FBI Director James Comey asked Justice Department officials to publicly reject President Donald Trump's claims that former President Barack Obama ordered the wiretapping of Trump Tower, The New York Times reported Sunday. A senior U.S. official confirmed the newspaper's reporting to NBC News.

The Times reported that Comey requested that the Department of Justice publicly rebut the president's allegations — which he posted on Twitter without evidence — because the claims are untrue and suggest the FBI broke the law. Comey's appeal pits him against the president.
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#1496232 --- 03/05/17 06:29 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/05/opinions/trump-tweets-fun-over-obeidallah-opinion/index.html

If this had all ended with some crazy tweets, we could chalk this story up to just another Trump lie or an effort to distract us from the growing scandal with his administration's ties to Russia. But now that Trump, through Spicer, is demanding a taxpayer-funded congressional investigation into a claim made against his opposition without one single shred of evidence, we are in new and alarming territory.

Add just as alarming, on Sunday, Trump's spokesperson made it clear that like a dictator, Trump and his administration refuse to answer any questions from the media seeking such evidence: "Neither the White House nor the President will comment further until such oversight is conducted."

It's time for the Republican leaders in Congress to let us know if they will simply be a doormat for Trump's diabolical agenda -- or will they be patriotic Americans who stand up to this dictator in the making? My hope is that they choose the latter and remain focused on Russia's interference in our elections and possible collusion between the Trump administration and Russian officials.

What's it going to be, Republicans: Trump or America? We await your response.
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#1496233 --- 03/05/17 06:34 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.apnews.com/3c4ffb3202f1430391a0a49703098a24/

Republican leaders of Congress appeared willing to honor the president's request, but the move has potential risks for the president, particularly if the House and Senate intelligence committees unearth damaging information about Trump, his aides or his associates.


Edited by kyle585 (03/05/17 06:36 PM)
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/polit...dence/98779966/

Trump has a history of making claims without evidence
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http://www.dailywire.com/news/4834/trumps-101-lies-hank-berrien

Lyin' Donald: 101 Of Trump's Greatest Lies

That's not even a complete list. Trump's dishonesty is so awe-inspiringly pervasive that it would be nearly impossible to catalogue those lies in comprehensive fashion. But be assured: if Trump's talking, there's a solid shot he's not telling the truth.
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#1496236 --- 03/05/17 06:50 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: kyle585]
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Like watching a slow-motion train wreck.

Be prepared for a new nightmare named Mike Pence. Mr. Christian theocracy waits in the wings.

Until then...


White House Attorneys Scramble to Come Up with Evidence to Back Trump’s ‘Wiretap’ Claims
Is the president reading conspiracy websites, or is he under FISA court surveillance?


By David Ferguson / Raw Story

March 5, 2017


Pres. Donald Trump’s top legal advisers are scrambling to come up with evidence to back his claim on Twitter Saturday morning that the phones at Trump Tower were tapped in the weeks leading up to the 2016 election.

The New York Times reported Saturday evening that while Trump is spending the weekend at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida — his fourth weekend away from Washington since he was inaugurated Jan. 20 — a source reported that senior White House Donald F. McGahn II is spending the weekend trying to secure access to a court order that may or may not exist.

There are two possibilities regarding Trump’s angry tweets from Saturday morning in which he accused former Pres. Barack Obama of wiretapping the phones in Trump Tower: One is that Pres. Trump is getting his news from right-wing radio and fringe conspiracy websites like Breitbart.com and InfoWars, both of which ran with a story on Friday alleging that Obama eavesdropped on Trump.

The other possibility, as suggested by Democratic Rep. Ted Lieu (CA), is that the president was under surveillance through an order from a FISA court. This would mean that a federal judge felt there was probable cause to believe that Trump had committed a serious crime or was an agent of a foreign power.

However, even if such an order does exist, the Times explained that it would be a major breach of the Justice Department’s independence for the White House to compel it to turn over documents relating to an active investigation of itself.

“Any request for information from a top White House official about a continuing investigation would be a stunning departure from protocols intended to insulate the F.B.I. from political pressure. It would be even more surprising for the White House to seek information about a case directly involving the president or his advisers, as does the case involving the Russia contacts,” wrote Michael D. Shear and Michael S. Schmidt.

For McGahn to be searching for evidence that would identify his boss as the subject of a federal probe involving wiretap investigations is, to say the least, highly unusual in Washington.

Veteran journalist Dan Rather said on Saturday that Trump has already weakened our nation’s standing at home and abroad through his wild conspiracy mongering and erosion of the public trust.

Brian Fallon of NBC News noted on Twitter that for the White House to be looking for such evidence amounts to interference in the investigation and only strengthens the case for appointing a special prosecutor.

http://www.alternet.org/media/white-hous...-wiretap-claims
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#1496238 --- 03/05/17 07:05 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Flashback: First FISA Request on Trump Tower Came After Clinton and AG Lynch Met Privately on Tarmac

Jim Hoft Mar 5th, 2017 10:34 am 157 Comments

Guest post by Joe Hoft

Was it coincidence or an indication of things to come?
Snakes on a Plane.

On June 27th of 2016, Bill Clinton met secretly with Obama Attorney General Loretta Lynch at the Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport.

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#1496239 --- 03/05/17 07:19 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: Teonan]
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It's funny to see a desperate Trump supporter grasping for straws, why don't the fool go back even to 1996 when Bill Clinton was in office and mention a few shall we say indiscretions. The fact remain, Trump is in a whole lot of trouble unrelated to past situations.
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#1496242 --- 03/05/17 08:59 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: Formermac]
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It's funny to see a desperate Trump supporter grasping for straws, why don't the fool go back even to 1996 when Bill Clinton was in office and mention a few shall we say indiscretions. The fact remain, Trump is in a whole lot of trouble unrelated to past situations.


"Trump is in a whole lot of trouble unrelated to past situations."


Question
What are you talking about?
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#1496245 --- 03/05/17 09:19 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Haha.

See ya *DELETED* an idiotic question a minute ago.

You're drunk Tommyboy. Go sleep it off
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#1496246 --- 03/05/17 09:37 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: Teonan]
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Haha.

See ya *DELETED* an idiotic question a minute ago.

You're drunk Tommyboy. Go sleep it off
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smirk
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#1496276 --- 03/06/17 04:39 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: ThomasDecker]
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SAME NY Times Reporter Said Trump Team Was Wiretapped In Jan., But Said TRUMP Lacked Evidence In March

by Jeff Dunetz | Mar 6, 2017 | Media, Politics


http://lidblog.com/same-ny-times-reporter/
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Originally Posted By: Teonan

Haha.

See ya *DELETED* an idiotic question a minute ago.

You're drunk Tommyboy. Go sleep it off
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smirk


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#1496278 --- 03/06/17 05:08 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: Teonan]
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Question, since Trump haven't spoken to any intel director, how did he obtain this purported information about wire tapping?


Edited by Formermac (03/06/17 05:12 PM)
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By Wayne Dupree | Featured Contributor | March 6, 2017 11:24AM

FBI Director James Comey shocked voters across America when he told the Justice Department to shut down President Donald Trump’s claim that Trump Tower was wiretapped while Barack Obama was in office.

How can you do that, Comey? With no investigation? No witnesses called? Nothing in writing? Just who is Comey, anyway?

If, in fact, the Obama administration did surveillance on the opposition party during the election, wouldn’t that be a massive constitutional overreach? Isn’t that why Nixon had to resign? And Comey wants the DOJ to dismiss his claims?

Something is not right, and I am calling on Americans to call their Congressional representatives and ask for Comey to resign.

How many of you trust his decision-making right now? How many of you trust Obama?

From The Hill:

Senior American officials told The New York Times on Sunday that Comey has said the president’s wiretapping allegations are not true and asked the Justice Department on Saturday to publicly correct the record.

The report comes after President Trump, in a series of early Saturday tweets, claimed President Obama had ordered the wiretapping of Trump Tower.

The FBI and the DOJ declined to comment to the Times.

Comey wants the Justice Department to deflate Trump’s claim because there is no evidence to support it, the Times reported, and it insinuates that Comey’s FBI broke the law, the officials told the paper.


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WATCH: Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse tells Salon “fewer than half” of GOP senators think Trump “makes it through his presidency”
In a visit to Salon, Rhode Island Democrat says his GOP colleagues feel "a lot of anxiety" about their president
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In response to President Trump's unfounded allegations that he was wiretapped, Former Defense Secretary William Cohen warned that the president was trying to send the media down a "rabbit-hole" in an attempt to "normalize Breitbart"
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BREAKING: ‘Obamagate’ Blows Wide Open As WikiLeaks Releases Obama’s Wiretapping ‘Victim List’



Ever since the Trump got into office, there has been a concerted effort on the part of Barack Obama to take him down. Shortly after learning of Obama’s violence resistance movement Organization For Action (OFA) where his minions around the country are being trained in Saul Alinsky tactics, we are now hearing that Obama wiretapped Trump Towers during the 2016 presidential race to spy on Trump. As this new scandal being dubbed “Obamagate” blows wide open, WikiLeaks just dropped another huge bombshell, revealing that Obama has made quite the history of wiretapping and hacking political opponents and friends alike.


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It doesn't get any better than this, a bunch of Conservatives knowing full well that their dishonest leader is about to go down in flames, so what's supporter to do? mimic the tactics of their flamed bum, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie....did I say lie? DNI, and every Intel leader is laughing the arses off along with many GOP leaders who hate to admit it, this man is off his rocker and getting more erratic as the truth encompass his virtual make believe world.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/03/07/trump-wiretap-shiny-object-theory-kaye-pkg-ac.cnn



https://www.yahoo.com/news/ex-cia-direct...-143941457.html

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#1496301 --- 03/07/17 11:11 AM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: Formermac]
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Conservatives knowing full well that their dishonest leader is about to go down in flames


Oh someone's leader is going down in flames alright.

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#1496375 --- 03/08/17 11:31 AM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Flashback: Obama and Deep State Bugged House of Rep’s Cloak Room – Why Wouldn’t Obama Wiretap Trump?

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/03/...resident-trump/



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#1496377 --- 03/08/17 11:41 AM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Why would Trump and his surrogates go to Russia? somehow this seems to be the most talked about scandal, thus the reason for attempts at creating anything to divert people's attention. Remember son, Democrats and Liberals possess this huge advantage....they're not knee jerk fools as others we know. grin
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#1496378 --- 03/08/17 11:53 AM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: ThomasDecker]
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It's becoming very evident that Trump nor his supporters have any long term strategy plans, which we clearly see here.


1. Exhaust an opinion on a breaking new or headline topic
2. Exhaust an opinion on a breaking new or headline topic
3. Exhaust an opinion on a breaking new or headline topic
4. Wake up in the wee hours of the morning when the brain is still focused a going to the john to pee but still compelled to blurt it out before hand.

Now when you can offer anything remotely close to Breaking news, it may increase your credibility rating, in Trump's case, he's at the plateau of being contrude a liar if he is actually having a major heart attack.

What's the current status on the following?

His tax return
His illegal business dealings
His odd behaviors.

2 of them will get you impeached, the 3rd one will get you committed.
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#1496391 --- 03/08/17 03:38 PM Re: Non-Denial ‘Denial Obama Response to Trump ‘Wiretap’ Claim Raises More Questions [Re: Formermac]
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George Takei‏Verified account @GeorgeTakei 3h3 hours ago

This just in: Trump accuses Obama of being alien from outer space based on story he read somewhere. Congressional GOP agrees to investigate.
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I almost submitted a meme but after some thought, I'll let your post stand and wait for the "aliens" to come to Trump's rescue by once again confusing reality from a make believe Trump world.
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