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#1494760 --- 01/26/17 08:28 AM Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward
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New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman said in a news release:

“The President lacks the constitutional authority to cut off funding to states and cities simply because they have lawfully acted to protect immigrant families -- as described in the legal guidance my office issued last week. Local governments seeking to protect their immigrant communities from federal overreach have every right to do so.

“Building and maintaining trust between local law enforcement and the communities they bravely serve is vital to ensuring public safety. Any attempt to bully local governments into abandoning policies that have proven to keep our cities safe is not only unconstitutional, but threatens the safety of our citizens.

“I urge President Trump to revoke this Executive Order right away. If he does not, I will do everything in my power to fight it.”


Ithaca Mayor stands firm in proposed sanctuary city status despite Trump's Executive Order to cut federal funding

The Ithaca Voice
by Jolene Almendarez

January 25, 2017

ITHACA, N.Y. -- President Donald Trump signed an executive order Wednesday afternoon that states that sanctuary cities will no longer be subject to receiving federal grants. But here in the city of Ithaca, plans are going forward to continue making it a sanctuary city.

https://ithacavoice.com/2017/01/ithaca-m...ederal-funding/


Edited by Teonan (01/26/17 09:01 AM)
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#1494792 --- 01/26/17 06:02 PM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: Teonan]
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How much ya want to bet that law enforcement backs Trump ? crazy
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#1494796 --- 01/26/17 06:38 PM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: scwoodchuck]
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A mite concerned over a possible 'blue-backlash' chuck? The Trump regime appears to be. Shifting of federal priorities to the state and local level as leverage to ensure 'cooperation' from officials.

Welcome to fascist America.


Trump wants to empower local police to enforce immigration law, raising fears of racial profiling
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post...cial-profiling/

Why police worry about Trump's 'sanctuary cities' crackdown
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/20...ities-crackdown
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#1494797 --- 01/27/17 06:21 AM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: Teonan]
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Just look at the crime rate in Ithaca, Washington DC,LA, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out there is a problem. Then read POLICE beat in your own home town. And explain why they are only concerned with public safety ?

http://www.fairus.org/issue/identity-and-immigration-status-of-9-11-terrorists.

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/30/th...rooks-realizes/


Edited by scwoodchuck (01/27/17 06:30 AM)
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#1494801 --- 01/27/17 06:48 AM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Ah. The plague of puffed-up, disconnected hillbilly America.

Rosa Brooks of the L.A.Times nails it.. “fat, decadent and getting dumber all the time.”

LOST IN SPACE too I might add.

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#1494824 --- 01/27/17 02:48 PM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: Teonan]
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Ithaca to rally for immigrant rights after Trump executive orders issued

The Ithaca Voice
by Jolene Almendarez

January 27, 2017


ITHACA, N.Y. -- On Saturday, Ithaca-area activists are hosting an Emergency Rally to Support Immigrant Rights as a response to recent anti-immigrant executive orders signed by President Donald Trump.

Four women, who participated in the Women's March helped organize the rally, which is happening from 2 to 4 p.m. Saturday on the Ithaca Commons.

Trump's executive orders have made headlines this week, as well as some drafted orders not signed as of early Friday afternoon. One draft includes putting a temporary ban on immigrants, refugees and visitors — based partly on factors such as their religion or country of origin. Earlier this week, Trump signed an order that a wall be built between the Mexico–United States border.

Organizer Paula Cohen said, "It's bloody scary, right? It just keeps coming and coming - it's a torrent of aggression. You can barely swallow one bit of bad news before another is thrown at you!"

Cohen was born and raised in Nigeria but immigrated to the United States from the United Kingdom. She said that she is privileged because she is "white as white can be" and benefits from not having to live with people's skepticism about her.

She said, "Because when I walk down the street, I don't need to worry that people are looking at me thinking 'Why doesn't she go back to her own country?'"

That's different from other immigrants she's met in the area.

(Article continues)

Read on: https://ithacavoice.com/2017/01/ithaca-rally-immigrant-rights-trump-executive-orders-issued/
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#1494828 --- 01/27/17 04:25 PM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: Teonan]
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Oh god, in reality anyone who walks down a street in Ithaca has to worry a little bit !

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ny/ithaca/crime/

http://www.areavibes.com/ithaca-ny/crime/


Edited by scwoodchuck (01/27/17 04:34 PM)
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#1494830 --- 01/27/17 04:31 PM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Don't be scared homie. wink
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#1494831 --- 01/27/17 04:42 PM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: Teonan]
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I am 96, what's to be afraid of, death ? Guess what, I should have died at birth, and probably 1000 times since then. You are the one who should be scared, you have to live with the mess people like you are making longer than I do.
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#1494832 --- 01/27/17 05:17 PM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
I am 96, what's to be afraid of, death ? Guess what, I should have died at birth, and probably 1000 times since then. You are the one who should be scared, you have to live with the mess people like you are making longer than I do.

96? Bless your heart man.

Living proof ignorance may increase one's longevity.

Stay thick. Rock on.


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#1494833 --- 01/27/17 06:09 PM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: Teonan]
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Wrong, I have a 140 IQ.

Let me remind you that we have matched wits before and you proved to be NO CONTEST grin


Edited by scwoodchuck (01/27/17 06:13 PM)
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#1494834 --- 01/27/17 07:05 PM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Wrong, I have a 140 IQ.

Let me remind you that we have matched wits before and you proved to be NO CONTEST grin


Impressive man. You're gifted.

Oh well, reckon I'll settle for being well-organized and "only" average in the more abstract ways of measuring ability.


In any event, we don't need to guess who scored a 3 for wisdom. wink
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#1494839 --- 01/28/17 10:10 AM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Wrong, I have a 140 IQ.

Let me remind you that we have matched wits before and you proved to be NO CONTEST grin




Name calling is all Teon's has anymore, the country rejected the Socialism, and Globalism scam.
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#1494840 --- 01/28/17 10:48 AM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Wrong, I have a 140 IQ.

Let me remind you that we have matched wits before and you proved to be NO CONTEST grin


Name calling is all Teon's has anymore, the country rejected the Socialism, and Globalism scam.


Name calling? Hehe. Naw, you just opt for perceptual blindness.

Like our genius ignoramus chuck, you certainly cultivate ignorance without trying all that hard.

Bless your heart man, for being "gifted" in that "special" way.

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#1494895 --- 01/30/17 06:02 PM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: Teonan]
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Originally Posted By: Teonan
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Wrong, I have a 140 IQ.

Let me remind you that we have matched wits before and you proved to be NO CONTEST grin


Name calling is all Teon's has anymore, the country rejected the Socialism, and Globalism scam.


Name calling? Hehe. Naw, you just opt for perceptual blindness.

Like our genius ignoramus chuck, you certainly cultivate ignorance without trying all that hard.

Bless your heart man, for being "gifted" in that "special" way.




If the Feds cut the money to Ithaca, the roads and streets will be one massive pothole. Might have to get different wheels on my shopping cart.
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#1494897 --- 01/31/17 08:23 AM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: Teonan
Originally Posted By: ThomasDecker
Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Wrong, I have a 140 IQ.

Let me remind you that we have matched wits before and you proved to be NO CONTEST grin


Name calling is all Teon's has anymore, the country rejected the Socialism, and Globalism scam.


Name calling? Hehe. Naw, you just opt for perceptual blindness.

Like our genius ignoramus chuck, you certainly cultivate ignorance without trying all that hard.

Bless your heart man, for being "gifted" in that "special" way.




If the Feds cut the money to Ithaca, the roads and streets will be one massive pothole. Might have to get different wheels on my shopping cart.


Paper-thin poseur. Your skid row shtick has l o n g tapped out. Better find a new grind man.
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#1494976 --- 02/02/17 09:16 AM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: Teonan]
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Dees ees great. More federal aid for der rest of us.

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#1494984 --- 02/02/17 10:15 AM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: Teonan]
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"Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples can build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance". ~Robert Kennedy


Like many sanctuary communities across America, Ithaca will NOT stand down...


Unanimous vote: Ithaca now a Sanctuary City with some teeth

by Jolene Almendarez
Ithaca Voice

February 2, 2017

ITHACA, N.Y. -- After nearly two hours of public comment and at least 30 speakers in favor of a newly proposed ordinance, Ithaca's Common Council unanimously voted to add teeth to its Sanctuary City policy, which was first passed in 1985, for Salvadoran and Guatemalan refugees

City officials, including police officers, are now specifically directed to not ask for a person's immigration status unless the person is actively committing a crime related to their status. The legal ordinance means that local law enforcement will not enforce federal immigration laws.

The ordinance was passed, officials said, based not only on ethical and moral grounds but because data shows that Sanctuary Cities -- in comparison to non-Sanctuary Cities -- have less crime, higher median rates of income, lower rates of unemployment and lower rates of poverty.

Alderman Ducson Nguyen, 2nd Ward, supported the ordinance saying, "It is deeply personal to me. I know you all know my parents are refugees."
Related-- Op-ed: My refugee parents and our American lives

He said the first few days of Donald Trump's presidency -- which has so far seen seven controversial executive orders signed and at least 11 memos issued, many about immigration and health care -- has been tough.

"I felt hopeless for a while," he said, but the highly publicly supported ordinance felt like a concrete thing that he and the city could do to fight back.

Alderman Cynthia Brock, 1st Ward, first proposed the ordinance draft to the City Administration Committee meeting on Jan. 18. She said during the meeting Wednesday night that while the new ordinance was a necessary step toward protecting the community, it was a day late and a dollar short.

Alderman Cynthia Brock, 1st Ward, listens to public comments during a Common Council meeting Wednesday about strengthening Ithaca as a Sanctuary City.

"But I want to say also that to a certain extent ....my efforts were a bit opportunistic in the sense that, honestly, President Obama was the deporter in chief. He deported more individuals than the previous two administrations combined. But I didn't think we had the energy or the wherewithal or commitment to take that controversial step and enact this into policy without the situation that we now live in," Brock said. "This policy is good policy. It is best practices. And it should have been in place decades. So while we are doing this in response to the times, it is an oversite that...it didn't happen until 2016 for any of us to sit down and ask, 'What does that mean?'"

All Common Council members and Mayor Svante Myrick spoke in favor of the ordinance. But while they are usually lush with commentary about big issues, they left most of the talking about the ordinance to the more than 125 people who attended the meeting, spilling out into the hallway and into an overflow room on the second floor.

Some of the people spoke beyond their allotted three minutes of permitted public comment period. Others spoke for less than 30 seconds. But nearly everybody attended the meeting to speak in favor of the ordinance. Nobody spoke out against it.

Ithacan Adriane Wolfe, whose father is a Greencard holder from Austria, said that over the past few days, she has experienced looking at the immigration orders from that of a concerned citizen, analytically thinking about the issue and realizing how awful it was for other people, to somebody who could be directly impacted by Trump's executive orders.

A leaked draft of a potential executive order indicated that legal immigrants could be subject to deportation for using social services.

While the details of what an order could mean for Greencard holders is not completely clear, Wolfe said it indicates that Trump is likely not done passing major policies with just the stroke of his pen. And it means she feels less certain about her father's future in the country.

"And it's not just and intellectual process. This is how we value human dignity. To penalize him for, as someone in his 70s, for accessing food -- is something...it breaks my heart," she said in tears."It is important to realize that real families can be ripped apart."

Walaa Maherem-Horan -- who became an American Citizen a few years ago -- said she was born in Egypt and has lived in England, Canada and the United States. She said she chooses to make Ithaca her home, where she has her work, friends and family.

Maherem-Horan, an Ithaca Welcomes Refugees board member, said that last summer, the group helped an Iraqi man become a legally permanent resident in the country. But he recently went back home to visit his family and is now stranded in Iraq because of Trump's executive order travel ban. And his family in Ithaca cannot go back home to visit their ailing mother.

But the difficulties don't end there for Maherem-Horan. She said that she is worried that even as a legal citizen of this country, her naturalized status will still put her at risk for ending up on a nationally publicized registry or at risk for deportation.

"The idea that we could be separated despite having done nothing wrong -- I don't even have a speeding ticket -- is scary," she said.

https://ithacavoice.com/2017/02/unanimous-vote-ithaca-now-sanctuary-city-teeth/

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#1494989 --- 02/02/17 10:50 AM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: Teonan]
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So now, the legal tax paying residents of the city of Ithaca will have to pay.

And so now, the legal residents will have to compete with the illegals for the limited resources that will are available.

And, I don't believe you live in the city, in fact, I'd put money it, or you have more money than brains.
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#1494993 --- 02/02/17 11:02 AM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: ThomasDecker]
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#1495001 --- 02/02/17 11:41 AM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: ThomasDecker]
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LOL. I'm not a gambler Tommyboy, so your pan-handled bucks are quite safe. Better you save up for a new shopping cart. The wheels fell of THAT myth long ago. grin

Soooo. Where's your latest squat brother? "Green door"? "the bricks"?, beneath "sleepy-time bridge"?, "Jungle III"? "The Lounge"? Or maybe you lucked-out and chillin' nicely with some kind folk in moneyed Fall Creek.

If your unfamiliar with those migratory locations wanderin' 'street cat', drop by Loaves and Fishes to chow up on Mondays or Fridays. I'll clue ya in... wink


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#1495014 --- 02/02/17 12:35 PM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: Teonan]
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Originally Posted By: Teonan

LOL. I'm not a gambler Tommyboy, so your pan-handled bucks are quite safe. Better you save up for a new shopping cart. The wheels fell of THAT myth long ago. grin

Soooo. Where's your latest squat brother? "Green door"? "the bricks"?, beneath "sleepy-time bridge"?, "Jungle III"? "The Lounge"? Or maybe you lucked-out and chillin' nicely with some kind folk in moneyed Fall Creek.

If your unfamiliar with those migratory locations wanderin' 'street cat', drop by Loaves and Fishes to chow up on Mondays or Fridays. I'll clue ya in... wink




So you'll clue me in.
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#1495027 --- 02/02/17 02:02 PM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Originally Posted By: Teonan

LOL. I'm not a gambler Tommyboy, so your pan-handled bucks are quite safe. Better you save up for a new shopping cart. The wheels fell of THAT myth long ago. grin

Soooo. Where's your latest squat brother? "Green door"? "the bricks"?, beneath "sleepy-time bridge"?, "Jungle III"? "The Lounge"? Or maybe you lucked-out and chillin' nicely with some kind folk in moneyed Fall Creek.

If your unfamiliar with those migratory locations wanderin' 'street cat', drop by Loaves and Fishes to chow up on Mondays or Fridays. I'll clue ya in... wink




So you'll clue me in.



Jeez. Didn't I make that clear enough?
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#1495044 --- 02/02/17 08:08 PM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
How much ya want to bet that law enforcement backs Trump ? crazy

I don't gamble man. You might consider putting that lost wager into the grandkids college fund.

Talk of Sanctuary County prompts Tompkins Sheriff statement: deputies won't ask for immigration status
Read on: https://ithacavoice.com/2017/02/talk-san...gration-status/
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#1495683 --- 02/23/17 08:12 AM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: Teonan]
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Tompkins County approves resolution protecting immigrants

Ithaca Times
By Jaime Cone

Feb 22, 2017

After an hour of public comment followed by another hour of debate, the Tompkins County Legislature Tuesday passed a resolution "to maintain a safe, inclusive government and protection, order, conduct, safety, health, and well-being of all persons in Tompkins County."

All but two of legislators, Glen Morey (R-Groton) and David McKenna (R-Newfield), voted in favor of the resolution. Michael Sigler (R-Lansing) was not present on an excused absence.

The resolution is similar to other "sanctuary" resolutions passed by municipalities in response to President Donald Trump's executive order cracking down on undocumented immigrants. On Tuesday, documents were made public that revealed the full scope of the President's plans to "no exempt classes or categories of removable aliens from potential enforcement."

Mayor Svante Myrick and the Common Council passed an ordinance two weeks ago that officially declared Ithaca a sanctuary city, using legislation similar to the resolution that legislator Legislator Anna Kelles (D-Ithaca) and constitutional law professor Kathleen Bergin drafted for approval by the legislature.

The four-page resolution includes the statement that county departments, officers, personnel, and agents should not engage in certain activities solely for the purpose of enforcing federal immigration law, including executing a stop based solely on actual or suspected immigration status or a civil immigration warrant, administrative warrant, or an immigration detainer in the individual’s name, including those identified in the National Crime Information Center (NCIC) database.

Kelles said that she purposely excluded the word "sanctuary" from the resolution because it is a broad term that has been used by numerous other municipalities to describe a wide range of scenarios. "It is not a legal definition," she said. "It is a political definition."

Kelles said that the extent to which the local legislation may affect the county financially is still unknown, though the federal government's discretion may be limited to funding that supports local law enforcement agencies.

"That is under debate, but there are case laws that show that federal government cannot take steps that are coercive with respect to withholding federal funding," she said. "There is also case law that shows that any action taken by the federal government must be germane; for example, for grants that are put forward stipulations should be germane to that grant and to the welfare of the United States."

The resolution also states that "the mere fact of being present in the United States without authorization, by itself, does not constitute a crime," which Legislator Peter Stein (D-Ithaca) moved to have taken out on the basis that people may be confused by the language and that it may "create enemies" among those who believe that immigrants should not remain in the county without official documentation.

Stein was the only legislator to vote in favor or his proposed amendment to remove the clause.

About 55 members of the public attended the meeting, and the vast majority of those who addressed the legislature were in favor of the resolution. Many spoke about potential chilling effect that the fear of deportation could have on immigrants' willingness to interact with law enforcement.

"That fear will actually prevent local law enforcement from doing its job," said local resident Sara Schaffzin, "since it will deter immigrants from reporting crime to the police for fear of being rounded up and deported."

Legislature Chair Michael Lane said that he stands in full support of the resolution. "We look at people who come here from another country as a resource to us," he said. "They provide ideas, intellect and diversity, and we need that."

http://www.ithaca.com/news/ithaca/tompki...0189d9a0d3.html
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#1495700 --- 02/23/17 02:26 PM Sanctuary City: Illegal [Re: Teonan]
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Originally Posted By: Teonan
New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman said in a news release:

[i] cut off funding to states and cities simply because they have lawfully acted to protect immigrant families -- as described in the legal guidance my office issued last week. Local governments seeking to protect their immigrant communities from federal overreach have every right to do so.

“Building and maintaining trust between local law enforcement and the communities they bravely serve is vital to ensuring public safety. Any attempt to bully local governments into abandoning policies that have proven to keep our cities safe is not only unconstitutional, but threatens the safety of our citizens.



is Schneiderman protecting the US citizens or the 'immigrants'?

odd that schneiderman prefers to pick and choose which laws he wants to apply

must be he has already forgot about 911, the twin towers falling down, all the people killed, all the police and fire personnel that lost their lives, how children lost a father or a mother, how family members lost another family member, how brothers lost a brother, how sisters lost a sister, how siblings lost another sibling, how parents lost their adult child, how the entire area was destroyed, the severe economic impact.TSA...

must be he did not lose a family member when the twin towers came down

or the actions afterwards


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#1495701 --- 02/23/17 02:46 PM Sanctuary City: Illegal [Re: Teonan]
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Originally Posted By: Teonan

Tompkins County approves resolution protecting immigrants



why stop there

why not just eliminate the entire police department and see how you like that
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#1495711 --- 02/23/17 09:11 PM Re: Sanctuary City: Illegal [Re: bluezone]
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Yeah yeah. The “Judeo-Christian West” is at war.

Tweet your pr*sident. He could use a few fresh meatheads. Sieg Heil.
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#1495754 --- 02/24/17 04:15 PM Re: Sanctuary City: Illegal [Re: Teonan]
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Originally Posted By: Teonan
The four-page resolution includes the statement that county departments, officers, personnel, and agents should not engage in certain activities solely for the purpose of enforcing federal immigration law


"That is under debate, but there are case laws that show that federal government cannot take steps that are coercive with respect to withholding federal funding," she said. "There is also case law that shows that any action taken by the federal government must be germane; for example, for grants that are put forward stipulations should be germane to that grant and to the welfare of the United States."


so you want to use case law to avoid enforcing federal immigration law whistle

are you unable to see the contradiction?


Originally Posted By: Teonan
The resolution also states that "the mere fact of being present in the United States without authorization, by itself, does not constitute a crime,"


being in the USA without proper documentation is a CRIME

can you say UNdocumented?
can you say CRIME?
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#1495755 --- 02/24/17 04:20 PM Re: Sanctuary City: Illegal [Re: Teonan]
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Originally Posted By: Teonan

Tompkins County approves resolution protecting immigrants


should it read 'Tompkins County approves resolution NOT to protect its actual US CITIZENS'?
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#1495756 --- 02/24/17 04:40 PM Re: Sanctuary City: Illegal [Re: Teonan]
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The ordinance was passed, officials said, based not only on ethical and moral grounds but because data shows that Sanctuary Cities -- in comparison to non-Sanctuary Cities -- have less crime, higher median rates of income, lower rates of unemployment and lower rates of poverty.


false

must be you have not heard of Rochester NY...

Originally Posted By: newsman38
About Ithaca crime rates

With a crime rate of 55 per one thousand residents, Ithaca has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 18. Within New York, more than 98% of the communities have a lower crime rate than Ithaca.

Importantly, when you compare Ithaca to other communities of similar population, then Ithaca crime rate (violent and property crimes combined) is quite a bit higher than average. Regardless of how Ithaca does relative to all communities in America of all sizes, when NeighborhoodScout compared it to communities of similar population size, its crime rate per thousand residents stands out as higher than most....

From our analysis, we discovered that violent crime in Ithaca occurs at a rate higher than in most communities of all population sizes in America.

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#1495765 --- 02/25/17 04:55 AM Re: Sanctuary City: Illegal [Re: bluezone]
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Did you see the video on Facebook of Bill Clinton, when he was President, saying the exact same thing as Trump about illegal immigrants. How he was going to deport them ?

https://youtu.be/FZXbG5gvoC0


Edited by scwoodchuck (02/25/17 05:02 AM)
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#1495766 --- 02/25/17 05:07 AM Re: Sanctuary City: Illegal [Re: bluezone]
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https://youtu.be/auZRVqrCLY8


We have to start protesting Bill Clinton because he started this mess !
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#1495778 --- 02/25/17 08:41 AM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: bluezone]
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Even if your chronic xenophobic dogma is carved in stone...


No Evidence Sanctuary Cities ‘Breed Crime’
http://www.factcheck.org/2017/02/no-evidence-sanctuary-cities-breed-crime/

The Effects of Sanctuary Policies on Crime and the Economy
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/...nd-the-economy/

Sanctuary Cities Are Safer and More Productive
New research contradicts President Trump’s claim that these areas do "immeasurable harm" to their residents.
http://www.citylab.com/crime/2017/01/sanctuary-cities-are-safer-and-more-productive/514508/

Actually, Sanctuary Cities Are Safer
Here's why all the vitriol we're hearing right now is misguided.[/color]
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015...e-san-francisco

COMMENTARY: An argument for sanctuary cities
http://newton.wickedlocal.com/news/20170210/commentary-argument-for-sanctuary-cities

Mass. Bar Association voices support for sanctuary cities, comprehensive immigration reform
http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/01/mass_bar_association_voices_su.html


Speaking of Rochester...
Rochester reaffirms sanctuary status amid immigration crackdown
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/stor...kdown/98202942/
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#1495783 --- 02/25/17 01:03 PM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: Teonan]
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https://www.fbi.gov/wanted‎

Ten Most Wanted · YASER ABDEL SAID · JOANNE DEBORAH CHESIMARD ·
Most Wanted Terrorists · JOANNE DEBORAH CHESIMARD · RANGER LACY.

‎Ten Most Wanted - ‎Fugitives - ‎Kidnappings & Missing Persons - ‎Seeking Information
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#1495784 --- 02/25/17 03:52 PM Re: Sanctuary City: Illegal [Re: Teonan]
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Originally Posted By: Teonan
Speaking of Rochester...


high poverty
high crime
low graduation rate
low student attendance
low student performance
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#1495787 --- 02/25/17 04:17 PM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
https://www.fbi.gov/wanted‎

Ten Most Wanted · YASER ABDEL SAID · JOANNE DEBORAH CHESIMARD ·
Most Wanted Terrorists · JOANNE DEBORAH CHESIMARD · RANGER LACY.
‎Ten Most Wanted - ‎Fugitives - ‎Kidnappings & Missing Persons - ‎Seeking Information


Sooo chuckster. What point relevant to the subject are you trying to make here?
crazy





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#1495800 --- 02/25/17 05:03 PM Re: Sanctuary City: Illegal [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: Teonan
The four-page resolution includes the statement that county departments, officers, personnel, and agents should not engage in certain activities solely for the purpose of enforcing federal immigration law


"That is under debate, but there are case laws that show that federal government cannot take steps that are coercive with respect to withholding federal funding," she said. "There is also case law that shows that any action taken by the federal government must be germane; for example, for grants that are put forward stipulations should be germane to that grant and to the welfare of the United States."


you want to disobey federal law but yet you still want federal funding - rather odd

try this

if you want a 'sanctuary city' then those in favor of it pay for it OUT of your pockets

bet it will be rejected grin
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#1496112 --- 03/03/17 08:55 AM Re: Sanctuary City:Illegal [Re: Teonan]
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Originally Posted By: Teonan
Kelles said that the extent to which the local legislation may affect the county financially is still unknown


wonder if NYS illegally spends over $25 BILLION on illegals per year?

open up your purse teonan and cover that cost

NYS could offer healthcare for the approximate 1 million NY US citizens that do not have healthcare in NYS

Originally Posted By: luckyduck
For 12 years California has ignored Officials' warnings regarding the Oroville Dam, and now, despite spending $25 Billion dollars a year on illegals, Gov. Brown no goes hat-in-hand to beg for emergency funds from the Trump Administration to fix the dam which provides water to more than 20 million farmers and residential customers.
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#1496141 --- 03/03/17 06:29 PM Re: Sanctuary City:Illegal [Re: bluezone]
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What. Unconcern for our state's agricultural industry deprived of their exploitable immigrant workforce due to increased crackdowns?

Unless American kids begin setting their life goals on becoming farm workers, our state's fresh produce will rot in the fields without the hardworking undocumented.

And eventually, those NYS farms would wither away, too.

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#1496427 --- 03/09/17 07:51 AM Re: Sanctuary City:Illegal [Re: Teonan]
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Originally Posted By: Teonan
Unconcern for our state's agricultural industry deprived of their exploitable immigrant workforce


you allow it
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#1496428 --- 03/09/17 07:53 AM Re: Sanctuary City:Illegal [Re: bluezone]
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thought a sanctuary city had a lesser amount of these situations?

Originally Posted By: newsman38
'No Question It's Gotten Worse': A Look Inside Ithaca's Heroin Epidemic


Originally Posted By: newsman38
Ithaca Police: 8 Suspected Heroin Overdoses in 2 Weeks
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#1496432 --- 03/09/17 08:38 AM Re: Sanctuary City:Illegal [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: Teonan
Unconcern for our state's


Originally Posted By: newsman38
Sheriff Virts returns with insights after visit to Arizona-Mexico border: “If we don’t secure that border, that is a slap in the face to every family that has ever lost someone to a drug overdose, to every family that’s struggling with drug addiction, and it will continually undermine this country and drain our resources,”
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#1496451 --- 03/09/17 02:42 PM Re: Sanctuary City:Illegal [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Teonan
Unconcern for our state's agricultural industry deprived of their exploitable immigrant workforce


you allow it

Small deeds helping to alleviate their plight say otherwise bz.
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#1497660 --- 04/11/17 07:09 PM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: Teonan]
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Ithaca joins legal opposition of Trump travel ban

Matt Steecker
Ithaca Journal

April 11, 2017


Ithaca Mayor Svante Myrick and City Attorney Aaron Levine have taken legal measures in their ongoing campaign to oppose President Donald Trump's executive order banning travel from six Muslim majority countries.

By joining an amicus brief in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York, Ithaca has joined over 30 cities opposing Trump's order. On March 13, the office of New York State Attorney General Eric Schneiderman also submitted a declaration from Lavine supporting efforts to challenge the executive order enacting the March 6 travel ban. The document, titled Declaration of Immediate and Irreparable Harm described the order's effects on the city's economic and cultural environment if the ban were remained.

The declaration states Ithaca's educational institutions serve and accept international students, and rely on the work of foreign-born teachers, researchers and other academic professionals. Within the declaration, Lavine states Jennifer Tavares, Tompkins County Chamber of Commerce president, said President Trump’s executive orders have caused potential tourists to cancel plans to attend and visit Ithaca regional events and attractions.

According to the documents, Trump's executive orders also have impeded the city's ability to accept Syrian refugees.

A news release stated: "Myrick and Lavine stand ready to continue ensuring that Ithaca plays its part in standing against the Trump Muslim Travel Ban, which is as offensive to American values as it is unconstitutional."

http://www.ithacajournal.com/story/news/...-ban/100306880/
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#1497669 --- 04/11/17 09:48 PM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: Teonan]
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Too bad the mayor doesn't put this much effort into crime control and the heroin epidemic. Does the mayor own property in Ithaca so he knows what it's like to have to pay property taxes and feel the pinch of ever increasing property taxes? Probably not.
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#1497673 --- 04/12/17 06:58 AM Re: Sanctuary City: Ithaca moves forward [Re: The Mechanic]
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An Ontario County wrench voicing concerns about Ithaca. Interesting. Rather than making biased, uneducated, blanket judgements, drop down for the next Common Council meeting. First Wednesday of each month at 6:00 p.m., 3rd Floor, City Hall, 108 E. Green Street. You might actually learn a thing or two.

Mayor Myrick's State of the City Address January 4, 2017
http://www.cityofithaca.org/DocumentCenter/View/5706
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