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#1503758 --- 08/20/17 09:42 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
gassy one Offline
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
OH BOY! You are relying on polls again! LOL!
I have seen Trump talk about polls he liked. I have seen you talk about polls you like but there aren't any of them any more.
I don't count on them like you did in the last election! LOL!

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#1503823 --- 08/21/17 11:49 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: gassy one]
kyle585 Offline
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
OH BOY! You are relying on polls again! LOL!
I have seen Trump talk about polls he liked. I have seen you talk about polls you like but there aren't any of them any more.
I don't count on them like you did in the last election! LOL!
Then why have you posted polls on here when you liked what they were saying?

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#1503861 --- 08/22/17 04:23 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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BREAKING NEWS! LOL

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/breitbart-slams-trump-flip-flop-on-war-1029533763780

8/21/17
Breitbart slams Trump “flip-flop” on war
Steve Bannon is back at Breitbart, and reportedly ready for war with Jared Kushner if Trump deviates from the platform he ran on. A Breitbart staffer issued this warning: "we're prepared to help Paul Ryan rally votes for impeachment.” Duration: 8:04

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#1503871 --- 08/22/17 09:18 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-t...octrine-n794741

Breitbart News — where Steve Bannon returned as executive chairman after exiting as Trump’s chief White House strategist — led its site with three glaringly critical headlines of the speech, including one that dubbed Trump's speech a "Flip-Flop."

Reporters and editors at the site also took to Twitter to bash the president’s speech and compared his strategy to that of "Obama 2009: ‘The days of providing a blank check are over.’ Trump 2017: ‘Our support is not a blank check,'" tweeted Breitbart’s White House correspondent Charlie Spiering in a post.

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#1503890 --- 08/22/17 03:02 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trum...n-policy-speech

Trump’s Base Goes Ballistic Over His ‘Unlimited War’
The president has escalated fights in six countries. Now his supporters are wondering what happened to ‘America First.’
Lachlan Markay
Sam Stein
08.21.17 11:02 PM ET

President Donald Trump acknowledged on Monday night that the new Afghanistan strategy he unveiled is a reversal of his long-held objection to the very idea of having a U.S. military presence in the country.

But in announcing a ramp up of U.S. forces with no defined timeline for their departure, Trump tailored and mangled and obscured the policy to such a degree so as to make it both difficult to understand and—he hopes—palatable to his base. At one point, he asserted that his strategy was to have no publicly-stated strategy at all.

We will not talk about numbers of troops or our plans for further military activities,” Trump told a crowd of servicemen at Virginia’s Fort Myer on Monday.

Presidents have made abrupt foreign policy reversals before, often breaking with campaign pledges when presented with a new set of geopolitical realities. Trump’s reversal stands out not just for the outright vehemence with which he previously argued that America needed to put an end to its 16-year-long war—Trump has called for total US withdrawal from Afghanistan and for handing the country over to an army of mercenaries—but also because of what it says about his foreign policy at large. In the seven months since taking office, Trump has expanded military operations in Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Somalia, Libya and, now, Afghanistan. And that’s in addition to an escalated nuclear standoff with North Korea.

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#1503894 --- 08/22/17 03:53 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.salon.com/2017/08/22/donald-t...-in-miniskirts/

Donald Trump was swayed on his Afghanistan policy by photos of women in miniskirts

Donald Trump abandons his years of opposing Afghanistan interventionism because he saw a photo of women in 70s garb

In an effort to help persuade Trump to come to the realization that the country of Afghanistan has a hopeful future, the president’s national security adviser, Gen. H.R. McMaster, showed him a picture of Afghan women in 1972 walking around in miniskirts, according to The Washington Post.

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#1503903 --- 08/22/17 06:13 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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Wow. Has there ever been such a mixed up administration? From Breitbart:

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/08/22/tillerson-taliban-may-not-win-neither-will/

Tuesday, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said President Donald Trump’s new strategy in Afghanistan is to make the Taliban negotiate with the understanding that they would not “win a battlefield victory,” adding that, “We may not win one, but neither will you.”

Tillerson said, “I think the president was clear, this entire effort is intended to put pressure on the Taliban to have the Taliban understand you will not win a battlefield victory. We may not win one, but neither will you. So at some point, we have to come to the negotiating table and find a way bring this to an end.”

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#1503904 --- 08/22/17 06:18 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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Breitbart again. Good Grief.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...friends-behalf/

Sen. John Boozman (R-AK) lobbied for Mexican foreign workers on a friend’s behalf, according to a report disclosing emails from one of Boozman’s staffers obtained by the Immigration Reform Law Institute through an open records request.

The report includes emails from Rebecca Caldwell, a staffer for Boozman’s office, to the U.S. consulate in Monterrey, Mexico, asking for 80 farm hands to work on an Arkansas farm.

Caldwell wrote in an email May 28, 2015, that she is reaching out to the consulate “on behalf of my constituent Doug Gillam of Gillam Farms of Arkansas, INC.”

“The senator has asked that I reach out to you regarding this issue as he is personal friends with [redacted],” Caldwell added.

Boozman’s office declined to comment or give the identity of the personal friend referenced in the email.

Gillam does, however, own the farm with his brother Jeremy Gillam, who is the Speaker of the Arkansas House of Representatives.

Caldwell wrote in an “urgent” email that Doug Gillam needed 80 workers. The emails did not include responses from State Department officials about how Gillam fared in obtaining the low-wage workers.

Caldwell also referenced an I-129 petition commonly used for non-immigrant workers. Gillam’s workers would have received H-2a visas for temporary or seasonal farm workers.

Jeremy Gillam told the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette that he needed low-wage foreign workers to ensure his farm’s blueberry crop would not die out.

“They’re professionals,” Jeremy Gillam said. “They’re just so used to doing it. It’s what they do. They’re phenomenal at what they produce. For us, it’s what makes all the difference in the world in terms of staying competitive.”

Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies testified at a Senate hearing in 2005 stating that Australian farmers created a technique called “dried-on-the vine production” that would cut down on labor due to shortages of foreign workers available in the country.

Krikorian added that the U.S. was slow to adopt this method “because the mass availability of foreign workers has served as a disincentive to farmers to make the necessary capital investment.”

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#1503916 --- 08/23/17 12:15 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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A self-described "email prankster" seemingly fooled top editors at Breitbart over the weekend into believing he was Steve Bannon, the fired White House chief strategist who returned to the right-wing website as executive chairman on Friday.

In the emails, Breitbart Editor-in-Chief Alex Marlow pledged that he and several other top editors would do Bannon's "dirty work" against White House aides. The emails were shared with CNN by the prankster.

In other emails, Marlow suggested he could have Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump ousted from the White House "by end of year" and shared a personal smear about their private lives, perhaps an indication of how low the website is willing to go to achieve its agenda.

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#1503917 --- 08/23/17 12:20 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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Donald Trump Goes Scorched Earth in Wild, Angry Arizona Speech
The president showed that he’s increasingly frustrated, often isolated, and ever willing to lash out at any and all perceived enemies.


Lachlan Markay
Asawin Suebsaeng
08.23.17 12:29 AM ET

Five days ago, Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), calmly looked into the cameras of local Tennessee news stations and stated that he had doubts about President Donald Trump’s stability.

It was a shocking assessment and not just because Corker is not a man known for hyperbole. These types of things aren’t said about presidents; certainly not in the open. But it was said by Corker, and for the fairly clear purpose of putting Trump on notice that Senate Republicans were running out of patience with his presidency.

On Tuesday night, Donald Trump did little to earn back more patience. Those, like Corker, who were hoping that the president would suddenly discover a more conciliatory side were likely left severely disappointed by a rally that was equal parts angry, combative, rambling and foreboding.

To say Trump was in campaign mode would probably be to overstate how he was on the previous campaign. Speaking in Phoenix, he viciously attacked the news media, left-wing protesters, and members of his own party whom he blames for the stalling of his legislative agenda.

At one point, he went on a 25-minute rant against the press, with multiple gestures towards the pen at the back of the Convention Center. He blamed them for misrepresenting his remarks on the terrorist attack in Charlottesville, Virginia, last weekend. And then, when reading from printed copies of those remarks, he misquoted himself, conveniently failing to mention that he had blamed “both sides” for the atrocities.

When not reading off the teleprompter, Trump appeared angry. He threatened to shut down the government if he didn’t get funding for his famed border wall. He blamed the filibuster for stalling much of his agenda, even as he claimed to have passed more bills than any president since Harry Truman. And he went after congressional Republicans for being insufficiently obedient, even as his relationship with GOP leadership reaches new nadirs.

“Mitch is not going to be happy,” a senior Trump official conceded The Daily Beast late on Tuesday evening, referring to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. “He probably wasn’t expecting an hour of tax reform. But couldn’t have expected a shutdown threat either.”

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#1503969 --- 08/23/17 09:35 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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DOOM & GLOOM! LOL!

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#1504002 --- 08/24/17 06:46 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
DOOM & GLOOM! LOL!
I am afraid with this president the nation has more to fear of DOOM & GLOOM than ever before.

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#1504007 --- 08/24/17 07:08 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.salon.com/2017/08/22/donald-t...-in-miniskirts/

Donald Trump was swayed on his Afghanistan policy by photos of women in miniskirts

Donald Trump abandons his years of opposing Afghanistan interventionism because he saw a photo of women in 70s garb

In an effort to help persuade Trump to come to the realization that the country of Afghanistan has a hopeful future, the president’s national security adviser, Gen. H.R. McMaster, showed him a picture of Afghan women in 1972 walking around in miniskirts, according to The Washington Post.
From Brietbart:

http://www.breitbart.com/national-securi...ation-building/

WASHINGTON – President Trump has promised the U.S. would not be “nation-building” in Afghanistan, but some experts who have long studied Afghanistan said that is what his strategy would entail in a panel on Tuesday.

In his announcement of the new strategy on Monday for Afghanistan, Trump said “We are not nation-building again. We are killing terrorists.” He also said the U.S. would “continue its support for the Afghan government and the Afghan military.”

Experts say that without “nation-building” – insofar as it means things like helping Afghanistan pull off democratic elections – there will be no Afghan government or Afghan military to support.

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#1504157 --- 08/27/17 09:04 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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Get the job done and get out! Can't hold every countries hand forever!

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#1504171 --- 08/27/17 02:44 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Get the job done and get out! Can't hold every countries hand forever!
I have now heard it said that we may be there as long as we have been in Korea.

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After President Donald Trump announced on Monday night that he would send additional troops to fight the war in Afghanistan, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson made additional remarks on Tuesday that apperaed to undercut the commander-in-chief’s war rhetoric.

During a press briefing in which he once again called on Pakistan to end their alleged support for terrorist organizations, Tillerson said that the U.S. is open to negotiating with the Taliban without requiring preconditions.

also said that the U.S. is open to negotiating with the Taliban without requiring preconditions.

“Our new strategy breaks from previous approaches that set artificial calendar-based deadlines. We are making clear to the Taliban that they will not win on the battlefield,” Tillerson said in a statement on Monday after the president’s address. “The Taliban has a path to peace and political legitimacy through a negotiated political settlement to end the war.”


The former Exxon Mobil CEO went on to say that “We stand ready to support peace talks between the Afghan government and the Taliban without preconditions. We look to the international community, particularly Afghanistan’s neighbors, to join us in supporting an Afghan peace process.”

During the press briefing on Tuesday, Tillerson told reporters that “this entire effort is intended to put pressure on the Taliban, to have the Taliban understand that you will not win a battlefield victory. We may not win one, but neither will you.

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#1504206 --- 08/28/17 01:48 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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This is Trump not Obama! Won't be there that long!

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#1504209 --- 08/28/17 02:46 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
This is Trump not Obama! Won't be there that long!
Huh? You are confused with whatever you are tying to say.

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#1504228 --- 08/28/17 10:17 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
This is Trump not Obama! Won't be there that long!
Huh? You are confused with whatever you are tying to say.
Not confused you have been drinking again! LOL! Trump won't monkey around like Obama! A couple of big booms and the problem will be taken care of!

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#1504234 --- 08/29/17 12:58 AM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
This is Trump not Obama! Won't be there that long!
Huh? You are confused with whatever you are tying to say.
Not confused you have been drinking again! LOL! Trump won't monkey around like Obama! A couple of big booms and the problem will be taken care of!
good god. I have cut and pasted comments from military experts on here saying that is not true. Steve Bannon now from your favorite web site said that is not true. Once you get a stupid idea in your head there seems to be no way to get it out.

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#1504284 --- 08/29/17 09:55 PM Re: The Trump effect continues! MORE LOSING! [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
This is Trump not Obama! Won't be there that long!
Huh? You are confused with whatever you are tying to say.
Not confused you have been drinking again! LOL! Trump won't monkey around like Obama! A couple of big booms and the problem will be taken care of!
good god. I have cut and pasted comments from military experts on here saying that is not true. Steve Bannon now from your favorite web site said that is not true. Once you get a stupid idea in your head there seems to be no way to get it out.
The stupid ideas were from your buddy Obama who stood by and basicly did nothing while dingbat built up his military infrastructure! Those sanctions worked really well didn't they? OMG! LOL!

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