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#1491607 --- 11/01/16 08:46 AM Supervisors Buy Building and Now Can't Use It
LittleKing Offline
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As near I can tell from today's Finger Lakes Times (article not yet up on the website):

The spendthrift supervisors (who are thinking of raising taxes because they have almost run out the reserve fund), with all that potential casino money burning a hole in their (the taxpayers') pocket, decided to buy the former BonaDent building, with the plan to put the public health and mental health departments there.

But now they "discover" there is a daycare center in that building. So now they don't want to move the Mental Health Department there because they don't want kids near the people getting treatment.

Instead, they plan to move the MH Department into the main county office building. Which, according to the Community Services Director, will be MORE expensive than putting it in BonaDent.

In other words: They bought a building they didn't need, with money they didn't have, for a purpose they are now reneging on, and now need to spend more money they don't have in order to fix the problem they created.

Amazing. Is it time to abolish this board and institute a county legislature?

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#1491782 --- 11/02/16 08:16 AM Re: Supervisors Buy Building and Now Can't Use It [Re: LittleKing]
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Originally when the County Office building was built it it was sold on the idea that all those types of services would be put in there. So my question is why is it more expensive since it was supposedly designed for this occupancy. Also , not sure if anyone has been in the office building but it seems to be very empty. That may be due to the fact that the various departments in there have way more space than they need. What I see in this county is that there is no one allowed to run for an office unless they cater to the elite political groups. But, then again it is the people that allow this.

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#1491795 --- 11/02/16 11:14 AM Re: Supervisors Buy Building and Now Can't Use It [Re: LittleKing]
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Ya gotta give the stupidvisors credit fer steppin' up and gittin' the building off Bruce's hands.
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#1491834 --- 11/02/16 09:51 PM Re: Supervisors Buy Building and Now Can't Use It [Re: LittleKing]
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The article is now posted:

Debate begins on Seneca County Mental Health Department site

By DAVID L. SHAW
dshaw@fltimes.com
Nov 1, 2016

WATERLOO ó Should Seneca Countyís Department of Mental Health be housed in the same building as a childcare center?

Itís a question county officials and the Board of Supervisors are likely to debate in the coming weeks.

The mental and public health departments will have to relocate because the county is closing their space at 31 Thurber Drive and selling the building there. The county bought the former BonaDent Dental Laboratories structure on North Road, adjacent to the county office building, with plans to move some departments there. And, because they are losing their space, the mental health and public health branches seem like logical choices.


However, several Board of Supervisors members expressed concern about putting the department that services the mentally ill, along with alcohol and substance-abuse addicts, there. The reason: A portion of the BonaDent building will be leased to del Lago Resort & Casino for its childcare center.


Because the Bonadent purchase includes reconfiguring the space for the new uses, if Mental Health goes to the county office building, there will be costs to prepare the space. And the Community Service Board thinks that it will stigmatize the Mental Health clients if they don't go to the new building.

I have to say I agree that Aging, Public Health, Environmental Health make better sense with a day care center. Although I don't understand why del Lago wouldn't have its day care center on-site.
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#1492156 --- 11/07/16 08:44 AM Re: Supervisors Buy Building and Now Can't Use It [Re: LittleKing]
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Seneca County is FILLED with people battling mental health issues, and so many aren't even diagnosed. That should be this county's first priority, because the children in the daycare center will certainly be surrounded by mental health issues when they go home.

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#1520379 --- 10/31/18 08:23 PM Re: Supervisors Buy Building and Now Can't Use It [Re: all seeing eye]
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Originally Posted By: all seeing eye
The article is now posted:

Debate begins on Seneca County Mental Health Department site

By DAVID L. SHAW
dshaw@fltimes.com
Nov 1, 2016

WATERLOO ó Should Seneca Countyís Department of Mental Health be housed in the same building as a childcare center?

Itís a question county officials and the Board of Supervisors are likely to debate in the coming weeks.

The mental and public health departments will have to relocate because the county is closing their space at 31 Thurber Drive and selling the building there. The county bought the former BonaDent Dental Laboratories structure on North Road, adjacent to the county office building, with plans to move some departments there. And, because they are losing their space, the mental health and public health branches seem like logical choices.


However, several Board of Supervisors members expressed concern about putting the department that services the mentally ill, along with alcohol and substance-abuse addicts, there. The reason: A portion of the BonaDent building will be leased to del Lago Resort & Casino for its childcare center.


Because the Bonadent purchase includes reconfiguring the space for the new uses, if Mental Health goes to the county office building, there will be costs to prepare the space. And the Community Service Board thinks that it will stigmatize the Mental Health clients if they don't go to the new building.

I have to say I agree that Aging, Public Health, Environmental Health make better sense with a day care center. Although I don't understand why del Lago wouldn't have its day care center on-site.


2 Years later and this matter remains unresolved.

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#1520389 --- 11/01/18 10:22 AM Re: Supervisors Buy Building and Now Can't Use It [Re: John Q Public]
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At one of his last Board or Committees meetings. Sheppard was asked about the day care. He said an announcement was anticipated shortly, but declined to give the board any detail. It would be nice to see the lease between the County and del Lago to see what is actually agreed to.


Originally Posted By: John Q Public
Originally Posted By: all seeing eye
The article is now posted:

Debate begins on Seneca County Mental Health Department site

By DAVID L. SHAW
dshaw@fltimes.com
Nov 1, 2016

WATERLOO ó Should Seneca Countyís Department of Mental Health be housed in the same building as a childcare center?

Itís a question county officials and the Board of Supervisors are likely to debate in the coming weeks.

The mental and public health departments will have to relocate because the county is closing their space at 31 Thurber Drive and selling the building there. The county bought the former BonaDent Dental Laboratories structure on North Road, adjacent to the county office building, with plans to move some departments there. And, because they are losing their space, the mental health and public health branches seem like logical choices.


However, several Board of Supervisors members expressed concern about putting the department that services the mentally ill, along with alcohol and substance-abuse addicts, there. The reason: A portion of the BonaDent building will be leased to del Lago Resort & Casino for its childcare center.




2 Years later and this matter remains unresolved.
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#1520393 --- 11/01/18 01:23 PM Re: Supervisors Buy Building and Now Can't Use It [Re: all seeing eye]
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but you said repeatedly there was no plan for a daycare crazy
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#1520403 --- 11/01/18 05:57 PM Re: Supervisors Buy Building and Now Can't Use It [Re: scwoodchuck]
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I'll believe it when it opens.....or when I see the agreement.

Trying hard to figure out what that was all about.


Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
but you said repeatedly there was no plan for a daycare crazy
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#1520482 --- 11/07/18 01:32 PM Re: Supervisors Buy Building and Now Can't Use It [Re: LittleKing]
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Lets not forget that with the county purchasing the old BonaDent Building another loss for property taxes not only for the county but for Seneca Falls as it is in the Town.
I previously heard that the "Daycare" was going to be for employees of DelLago but that is seriously stalled, or completely gone with the change of personnel at DelLago.
The Senior center moved to the BonaDent building and there needs to be a tremendous amount of work done to the old Senior Center before the personnel from the Health Department can move in due to confidentiality issues. What a huge deboggle!

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#1520536 --- 11/08/18 11:16 PM Re: Supervisors Buy Building and Now Can't Use It [Re: Ncarlady]
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NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD SEE THIS BUT:

"Rowe also said a lease of space in the former BonaDent building, acquired by the county with casino money in 2016, to the Jack and Jill Day Care Center of Webster will soon be ready for board approval. The
day care center will be leased by del Lago and would be open to the public as well as to casino employees."

From the 11-9-2018 Finger Lakes Times


Edited by all seeing eye (11/08/18 11:16 PM)
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#1520538 --- 11/09/18 06:36 AM Re: Supervisors Buy Building and Now Can't Use It [Re: all seeing eye]
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Are you kidding, there is BIG MONEY in daycare. In a prime location like that it will do very well and more money will be sucked out of Seneca County.
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#1520546 --- 11/11/18 06:06 AM Re: Supervisors Buy Building and Now Can't Use It [Re: scwoodchuck]
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