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#1486507 --- 07/06/16 08:57 PM $10 Million for Geneva!
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I just saw on my Facebook feed that the governor presented the city with a big fat check for $10 million. Let's hope it is used wisely!

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#1486565 --- 07/07/16 01:55 PM Re: $10 Million for Geneva! [Re: Downeaster63]
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#1486586 --- 07/07/16 08:27 PM Re: $10 Million for Geneva! [Re: Downeaster63]
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Originally Posted By: Downeaster63
I just saw on my Facebook feed that the governor presented the city with a big fat check for $10 million. Let's hope it is used wisely!


When has government money ever been used wisely?

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#1486738 --- 07/10/16 03:04 PM Re: $10 Million for Geneva! [Re: Hot Burrito]
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Yeah, first they try to drive the low income people from downtown, now it sounds like they want to build them new apartments to bring them back and then build them a grocery store and a beach at the lake. I don't know of many people who would swim in the lake, most would rather swim in a pool. crazy
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#1486801 --- 07/11/16 09:28 PM Re: $10 Million for Geneva! [Re: scwoodchuck]
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I sure hope city residents are the ones making the decisions.

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#1486802 --- 07/11/16 09:49 PM Re: $10 Million for Geneva! [Re: justacitizen]
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It looks as though it will be up to Matt Horn, city council & Sage Gerling from the ONI.

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#1486812 --- 07/12/16 06:04 AM Re: $10 Million for Geneva! [Re: Downeaster63]
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Yeah that is scary!!


Edited by 4sizzle (07/12/16 06:05 AM)

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#1486817 --- 07/12/16 09:31 AM Re: $10 Million for Geneva! [Re: 4sizzle]
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In my mind it would be more scary if decisions allocating those funds were placed in the hands of those who had no part in obtaining them in the first place, and offered no suggestions for improving the city during development of the most recent comprehensive plan. Horn and Gerling did the work to obtain the grant, and their full time job presumably is focused on the most effective use of resources available to improve the city. I'd rather trust them with the decisions than entrust them to those who chose not to help earlier. If anyone needs further explanation, see the Wikipedia plot summary of The Little Red Hen.

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#1486834 --- 07/12/16 12:33 PM Re: $10 Million for Geneva! [Re: Lucinda Knotts]
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I think that Gerling and Horn did a great job getting the City that funds but they should not be the only ones involved in where the money goes. There are many good people in the City of Geneva that have great ideas that should be tapped.

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#1486845 --- 07/12/16 04:24 PM Re: $10 Million for Geneva! [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Yeah, first they try to drive the low income people from downtown, now it sounds like they want to build them new apartments to bring them back and then build them a grocery store and a beach at the lake. I don't know of many people who would swim in the lake, most would rather swim in a pool. crazy


Wow. Mark Twain had a saying that would apply to your comment. So "they" are driving low income people out then want them back and to do so "they" will build new apartments for "them" and "they" will toss in a grocery store for good measure.

The pool comment is just icing on the cake.

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#1486847 --- 07/12/16 04:25 PM Re: $10 Million for Geneva! [Re: justacitizen]
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Originally Posted By: justacitizen
I think that Gerling and Horn did a great job getting the City that funds but they should not be the only ones involved in where the money goes. There are many good people in the City of Geneva that have great ideas that should be tapped.


Agreed. Hope that they find those good people.

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#1486867 --- 07/13/16 08:06 AM Re: $10 Million for Geneva! [Re: pingu]
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I agree. There should be more interaction with the taxpayers as to what this money is spent on.

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#1486981 --- 07/16/16 07:38 AM Re: $10 Million for Geneva! [Re: 4sizzle]
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Maybe they will tear out all the stuff they have put in at the lakefront over the past 10 years and do it right this time. Then in ten years they can tear everything out again and do it over again. That's what they have been doing for the last 60 years as I recall.
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#1486987 --- 07/16/16 10:19 AM Re: $10 Million for Geneva! [Re: Hello_Governer]
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Originally Posted By: Hello_Governer
Maybe they will tear out all the stuff they have put in at the lakefront over the past 10 years and do it right this time. Then in ten years they can tear everything out again and do it over again. That's what they have been doing for the last 60 years as I recall.

Anxiously awaiting your sage wisdom in the form of "workable alternatives ". whistle
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#1486991 --- 07/16/16 02:23 PM Re: $10 Million for Geneva! [Re: Timbo]
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The politicians won't be happy till the entire lakefront is wall to wall houses for the elite.
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#1486992 --- 07/16/16 02:40 PM Re: $10 Million for Geneva! [Re: Downeaster63]
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Not the entire lake front with housing but how about something that will offer the burdened residents of Geneva a little help with this eroded tax base? Is that too much to hope for?

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#1486993 --- 07/16/16 03:21 PM Re: $10 Million for Geneva! [Re: roundtable]
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Originally Posted By: roundtable
Not the entire lake front with housing but how about something that will offer the burdened residents of Geneva a little help with this eroded tax base? Is that too much to hope for?

It is if it deprives those same taxpayers their enjoyment of what is probably Geneva's greatest natural resource.
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#1487007 --- 07/17/16 10:47 AM Re: $10 Million for Geneva! [Re: Timbo]
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It can happen here, in fact it has already happened grin

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#1487010 --- 07/17/16 02:18 PM Re: $10 Million for Geneva! [Re: Hello_Governer]
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Where has it happened here?

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#1487012 --- 07/17/16 03:19 PM Re: $10 Million for Geneva! [Re: Downeaster63]
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Just a response to this in general.

Here we go with the paranoid, "they will take all our lakefront away for the elite." Geneva has nearly 50 acres of lakefront. Of course some people want nothing to happen at all on the lakefront and maybe even wouldn't mind tearing down the entire downtown district because that's lakefront, too isn't it?

Okay, enough with the greedy dog mentality. We have a city with 60% off the tax roles, there is property where no one would loose their precious use or view of the lakefront AND still get some solid taxable property back. Sound interested or are you one of the "I don't care what you say" crowd that cannot be reasoned with no matter how well thought out the idea is. No solutions from those folks, just object to everything that is not their idea.

Does everyone know that there is a permanent easement along the entire lake shore that prohibits any development? So all these panicked links to folks losing access is complete BS in Geneva because they already thought of it and made sure it wouldn't happen.

I for one would love to see some really nice and amazing pedestrian bridge built over the highway to link downtown and the lake.

Timbo and others at least brings some thoughtful insight to the subject. If you object, than bring some thoughtful alternatives and be sure that any development doesn't ruin it since you can't make more lake front property.

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