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#1482508 --- 03/02/16 04:22 AM Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council
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By DAVID L. SHAW dshaw@fltimes.com

SENECA FALLS — The Cayuga Indian Nation’s Unity Council has reconstituted itself, adopting a new name and some new members.

The lawful Council of the Cayuga Nation, informally known as the Unity Council, “shall hereby be known as the Cayuga Nation Council,” a consensus decision states. Certain council members who withdrew from operations on a temporary basis have recommitted to full participation, the decision stated.

The Unity Council was formed June 1, 2011, along with an affirmation of the composition of the Cayuga Nation Council of Chiefs. However, it was noted various non-Indians, non-Cayugas, Cayuga citizens and news media have “created serious confusion about the nature, name and composition of the Nation’s lawful government,” the decision said.

In accordance with its laws, customs and traditions, the Cayuga Nation Council is made up of:

• Sachem or Chief William Jacobs of the Heron Clan. He is the federal representative.

• Sachem Samuel George of the Bear Clan. He is the alternate federal representative.

• Chester Isaac, Bear Clan representative.

• Justin Bennett, Turtle Clan representative.

• Samuel Campbell, Turtle Clan representative.

• Karl Hill, Faithkeeper, Heron Clan representative.

“The Cayuga Nation Council is committed to healing the wounds suffered by the nation in past years and the Cayuga Nation Council is united in the goal of working toward a brighter future for citizens of the Cayuga Nation and for their friends and neighbors,” the consensus decision concludes.
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#1482543 --- 03/02/16 06:30 PM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: kyle585]
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New name change must get them more handouts?

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#1482614 --- 03/04/16 06:35 PM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: cob pee-on]
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Originally Posted By: cob pee-on
New name change must get them more handouts?
They probably wanted to get the word "nation" in their name. I say a nation with no land is not a nation.
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#1482617 --- 03/04/16 07:17 PM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: kyle585]
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By DAVID L. SHAW dshaw@fltimes.com
SENECA FALLS — A lack of procedural control and inadequate oversight at the state Office of Children and Family Services’ Native American Services Bureau allowed the systematic theft of nearly $20,000 from Cayuga Nation trust funds over a seven-year period.

That’s the conclusion of a state Inspector General’s Office investigation.

As a result of the probe, administration of the trust accounts for Cayuga Nation children has been transferred to the tribe itself.


Inspector General Catherine Leahy Scott issued a statement this week on the investigation, including her findings and recommendations.

Scott said the investigation discovered the OCFS failed to take any reasonable measures to monitor or audit the accounts. Instead, she said OCFS left administration of the accounts to the sole discretion of the bureau’s director.

That person, Kim Thomas-Muffoletto, 57, of Amherst, pleaded guilty to felony grand larceny early last year. She was ordered to pay full restitution.

From 2007-14, Thomas-Muffoletto stole $19,993.63 from 14 trust funds she oversaw, holding proceeds meant for Cayuga Nation minor children.

“This corrupt state employee was able to steal nearly $20,000 meant for children’s futures because of lax oversight at the agency charged with safeguarding those funds,” Scott said in her report.

OCFS, through its Buffalo-based Native American Service Bureau, administers treaty obligations and a variety of programs for Native American tribes recognized by the state.

Specific to the Seneca Falls-based Cayuga Nation, the OCFS makes annuity and interest payments to individual tribal members. Payments to Cayuga Nation minors not residing with their parents were held in trust accounts that were administered by Thomas-Muffoletto before her arrest.

Scott noted that OCFS had no internal controls, no audits and no supervision of Thomas-Muffoletto’s management of the trust fund.
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#1482620 --- 03/04/16 07:20 PM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: cob pee-on
New name change must get them more handouts?
They probably wanted to get the word "nation" in their name. I say a nation with no land is not a nation.

No surprise there. 'Gonna pretend that you've never heard of the Iroquois Confederacy???

Formed around 1570, the confederacy (or Iroquois League) was originally comprised of five tribes. Starting from east to west, they were the Mohawks, Oneidas, Onondagas, Cayugas and the Senecas. In the early 1700s, the sixth tribe, the Tuscaroras migrated from North Carolina to the border regions between New York and Pennsylvania and united with the original five tribes into one cohesive alliance.

Not that such facts ever get in the way of your colonial expansionist sense of entitlement. frown

Read and Learn:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iroquois
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#1482722 --- 03/08/16 05:35 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo

The Iroquois have absorbed many other peoples into their cultures as a result of warfare, adoption of captives, and by offering shelter to displaced nations.

After the defeat of the British and their Iroquois allies in the American Revolutionary War, Britain ceded most of the Iroquois territory, without bringing their allies to the negotiating table. Many of the Iroquois migrated to Canada, forced out of New York because of hostility to the British allies.

The editors of American Heritage magazine suggest the Iroquois spokesmen were politically sophisticated, and as manipulative as many a modern politician.[27]

Around 1670, the Iroquois drove the Siouan-speaking Mannahoac tribe out of the northern Virginia Piedmont region. They began to claim ownership of the territory by right of conquest. In 1672, the Iroquois were defeated by a war party of Susquehannock. The Iroquois appealed to the French for support and asked Governor Frontenac to assist them against the Susquehannock.

The American Revolution was a war that caused great divide amongst the colonists between Patriots and Loyalists; it caused a divide between the colonies and Great Britain, and it also caused a rift that would break the Iroquois Confederacy. At the onset of the Revolution, the Iroquois Confederacy "Six Nations" attempted to take a stance of neutrality. However, almost inevitably, the Iroquois nations eventually had to take sides in the conflict. It is easy to see how the American Revolution would have caused conflict and confusion among the Six Nations. For years they had been used to thinking about the English and colonists as one and the same. In the American Revolution, the Iroquois Confederacy now had to deal with relationships of two governments.[49]

The Iroquois League traditions allowed for the dead to be symbolically replaced through captives taken in "mourning wars", the blood feuds and vendettas that were an essential aspect of Iroquois culture.[87] As a way of expediting the mourning process, raids were conducted to take vengeance and seize captives. Captives were generally adopted directly by the grieving family to replace the member(s) who had been lost. This process not only allowed the Iroquois to maintain their own numbers, but also to disperse and assimilate their enemies. The adoption of conquered peoples, especially during the period of the Beaver Wars (1609-1701), meant that the Iroquois League was composed largely of naturalized members of other tribes. Cadwallader Colden wrote, "It has been a constant maxim with the Five Nations, to save children and young men of the people they conquer, to adopt them into their own Nation, and to educate them as their own children, without distinction; These young people soon forget their own country and nation and by this policy the Five Nations make up the losses which their nation suffers by the people they lose in war." By 1668, two-thirds of the Oneida village were assimilated Algonquians and Hurons. At Onondaga there were Native Americans of seven different nations and among the Seneca eleven.[88] They also adopted European captives, as did the Catholic Mohawk in settlements outside Montreal. This tradition of adoption and assimilation was common to native people of the northeast but was quite different from European settlers' notions of combat.
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Thanks! I learned a lot! They were very warlike and lost a lot of wars!
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#1483044 --- 03/15/16 01:39 PM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo

Seems like the Iroquis were always at war with somebody!

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According to one theory of early Iroquois history, after becoming united in the League, the Iroquois invaded the Ohio River Valley in present-day Kentucky to seek additional hunting grounds. They displaced about 1200 Siouan-speaking tribepeople of the Ohio River valley, such as the Quapaw (Akansea), Ofo (Mosopelea), and Tutelo and other closely related tribes out of the region. These tribes migrated to regions around the Mississippi River and the piedmont regions of the east coast.[28] The explorer Robert La Salle in the 17th century identified the Mosopelea as among the Ohio Valley peoples defeated by the Iroquois in the early 1670s, during the Beaver Wars.[29] As has been noted above, there were peoples who spoke languages in the same linguistic family, but who were not part of the League.
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#1483066 --- 03/16/16 08:33 PM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: cob pee-on
New name change must get them more handouts?
They probably wanted to get the word "nation" in their name. I say a nation with no land is not a nation.

HUD will save them grin

http://www.fltimes.com/news/cayuga-natio...05ba3252fb.html
Feb 17, 2016 ... SENECA FALLS — The Cayuga Indian Nation has been given $386,052 for affordable housing from the U.S. Department of Housing and ...
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#1483122 --- 03/20/16 06:18 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: scwoodchuck]
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VARICK — Two men wanted over a shooting and arson at a Cayuga Nation house were recently arrested, although Seneca County’s sheriff admits a little luck was involved. Marcus Redeye, 18, of Salamanca, Cattaraugus County, was charged March 12 with second degree assault (class D felony). Devin Bomberry,23, also of Salamanca, was charged with third degree arson (class C felony) and second degree criminal mischief (class D felony). Sheriff Tim Luce said the arrests conclude an investigation into the shooting and vehicle arson on Sept. 10, 2015, at the Cayuga Nation “Varick house” on County Road 124. Deputies responded after a report of shots fired in the area during a confrontation between rival factions. Dustin Sharpe, 30, of Hamburg, Erie County, was shot multiple times in the ankle by a high-powered, semi-automatic BB rifle.

Jordan Abrams, 23, who was living in the house, is accused of shooting Sharpe and was charged Oct. 1 with second-degree assault. Spencer Gauthier, 44, of Salamanca, Cattaraugus County, was shot in the back with a shotgun. Redeye is accused of shooting him. About two months after the incident, Peter J. dwards II, 31, of Nedrow, Onondaga County, turned himself in at the Seneca County Law Enforcement Center. He was charged with fourth-degree arson (class E felony), second degree criminal mischief and tampering with physical evidence (class E felony). Edwards and Bomberry are accused of setting a pickup truck on fire during the altercation. Edwards is also accused of removing evidence from a crime scene in which a shooting occurred.

Sharpe and Gauthier were treated at Geneva General Hospital and Strong Memorial Hospital in Rochester and later released. Luce said Redeye and Bomberry were arrested following a disturbance last weekend in Cattaraugus County. Deputies there learned there were warrants for their arrest out of Varick Town Court and took them into custody, later handing them off to Seneca County deputies. Redeye and Bomberry were arraigned in Fayette Town Court and remanded to the county jail in lieu of $15,000 bail or $30,000 bond. All four defendants will have their cases handled in county court.

Luce said if not for the chance arrest in Cattaraugus County, there is no telling how long Redeye and Bomberry ould have remained at large. He added that during the time they were being sought, sheriff ’s office investigators received little or no help from the Nation. “They were not very forthcoming,” Luce said Friday. “We asked for their help and we were told they (Redeye and Bomberry) were not even part of the tribe.


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#1483123 --- 03/20/16 08:35 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: kyle585]
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I like the way they leave out the fact the shooting was with a BB gun wink
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#1483137 --- 03/21/16 04:44 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: kyle585]
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may be you should go back and read the above article again, it very plainly states "was shot multiple times in the ankle by a high-powered, semi-automatic BB rifle."
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#1483138 --- 03/21/16 06:47 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
I like the way they leave out the fact the shooting was with a BB gun wink
Did you also miss this line?
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Jordan Abrams, 23, who was living in the house, is accused of shooting Sharpe and was charged Oct. 1 with second-degree assault. Spencer Gauthier, 44, of Salamanca, Cattaraugus County, was shot in the back with a shotgun.
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#1483139 --- 03/21/16 07:43 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo

Seems like the Iroquis were always at war with somebody!

First of all... That's untrue.

Secondly... Even if it were true, it would be utterly meaningless in the absence of context.

However, it COULD more accurately be said of Europe and the US, as well as many primitive cultures world-over.

Besides.. do sophomoric conclusions such as yours warrant similar childishly-simplistic presumptions of some imagined guilt??? crazy

Clearly NOT.
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#1483210 --- 03/23/16 05:36 PM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: Timbo]
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VARICK — Three of the four people arrested for last September’s shootings and arson at a Cayuga Nation-owned house have pleaded guilty to misdemeanors.

Seneca County’s district attorney said several factors played a role in those plea deals.

“All faced felonies, but not all felony cases end with felony convictions,” DA Barry Porsch explained. “On a regular basis, some low-level felonies are resolved with pleas to class A misdemeanors, depending on the facts and circumstances of the case.”

Devin Bomberry, 23, of Salamanca, Cattaraugus County, pleaded guilty Thursday to fourth-degree criminal mischief. He was sentenced to a conditional discharge.

Bomberry and another Salamanca resident, Marcus Redeye, 18, were arrested earlier this month by county sheriff’s office investigators. Bomberry was charged with felony arson and criminal mischief.

Bomberry and Peter Edwards, 31, of Nedrow, Onondaga County, were accused of setting fire to a pickup truck on Sept. 10 at the Cayuga Nation “Varick house” on County Road 124. Deputies responded after a report of shots fired during a confrontation between rival factions.

Porsch said there is a question of whether Bomberry actually set fire to the truck or was acting as a lookout.

“This was a mass incident going on between two factions. Lookout was the term that was used,” Porsch said. “We have strong cases and we have weak cases. Sometimes to resolve the latter, both parties agree to a misdemeanor.”

Edwards pleaded guilty earlier to fourth-degree criminal mischief. He was also sentenced to a conditional discharge.

Dustin Sharpe, 30, of Hamburg, Erie County, was shot in the ankle by a high-powered, semi-automatic BB rifle. Jordan Abrams, 23, who was living in the house, was charged with felony second-degree assault.

Abrams later pleaded guilty to third-degree assault, a misdemeanor, and will be sentenced later this month. Porsch said he will likely get a conditional discharge or probation.

Spencer Gauthier, 44, of Salamanca, was shot in the back with a shotgun. Redeye is accused of shooting him and faces a felony charge of second-degree assault.

Redeye was originally jailed on $15,000 bail, but Porsch said he was later released on his own recognizance when his preliminary hearing in Varick Town Court could not go forward. That was because a key prosecution witness is away on vacation outside the county.

Sharpe and Gauthier were treated at Geneva General Hospital and Strong Memorial Hospital in Rochester and later released.

“Redeye is still facing a felony assault charge, and jurisdiction still lies with the town court until he is either indicted or agrees to divest it to county court, waive indictment and be prosecuted by a superior court information,” Porsch said.

Porsch added that since Abrams used a BB gun and Redeye is accused of using a shotgun, he is not offering Redeye a chance to plead to a misdemeanor at this time.

“I’m not sure how it will be resolved. A lot depends on witness cooperation,” Porsch said. “The problem we have in general in these cases is cooperation when dealing with the people involved. They are very difficult cases to prosecute.”

Porsch and police agencies that have investigated incidents involving the Cayuga Nation have also questioned whether many of the participants are members of the tribe. In the Varick incident several appear to be members of the Seneca Nation in western New York.

“I don’t know what nation they belong to. I speculate they are Senecas, because they told the judge their longtime residence is in Cattaraugus County,” Porsch said. “From what I understand, this is an ongoing dispute and both factions [of the Cayuga Nation] have brought in people from other nations as muscle, so to speak.”


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#1483231 --- 03/24/16 10:20 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: kyle585]
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“I don’t know what nation they belong to. I speculate they are Senecas, because they told the judge their longtime residence is in Cattaraugus County,” Porsch said. “From what I understand, this is an ongoing dispute and both factions [of the Cayuga Nation] have brought in people from other nations as muscle, so to speak.”
muscle? other nations? What a joke. Sounds like the disruptions at one presidential candidates rallies. The current level of violence in the entire world is totally appalling.
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#1483250 --- 03/24/16 04:38 PM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: kyle585]
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VARICK — Three of the four people arrested for last September’s shootings and arson at a Cayuga Nation-owned house have pleaded guilty to misdemeanors.


wonder if halftown will make a donation to the local law enforcement for protecting him?
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#1483341 --- 03/27/16 08:14 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: bluezone]
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maybe we should send these guys a bill grin

http://www.bia.gov/WhoWeAre/BIA/
The Bureau of Indian Affairs' mission is to enhance the quality of life, to promote economic opportunity, and to carry out the responsibility to protect and improve

The BIA serves the 566 federally recognized tribes through four offices:
The Office of Indian Services: operates the BIA’s general assistance, disaster relief, Indian child welfare, tribal government, Indian Self-Determination, and Indian Reservation Roads Program.
The Office of Justice Services (OJS): directly operates or funds law enforcement, tribal courts, and detention facilities on federal Indian lands. OJS funded 208 law enforcement agencies, consisting of 43 BIA-operated police agencies, and 165 tribally operated agencies under contract, or compact with the OJS. The office has seven areas of activity: Criminal Investigations and Police Services, Detention/Corrections, Inspection/Internal Affairs, Tribal Law Enforcement and Special Initiatives, the Indian Police Academy, Tribal Justice Support, and Program Management. The OJS also provides oversight and technical assistance to tribal law enforcement programs when and where requested. It operates four divisions: Corrections, Drug Enforcement, the Indian Police Academy, and Law Enforcement
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#1483353 --- 03/27/16 11:12 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: bluezone]
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VARICK — Three of the four people arrested for last September’s shootings and arson at a Cayuga Nation-owned house have pleaded guilty to misdemeanors.

wonder if halftown will make a donation to the local law enforcement for protecting him?

Sorry... the federal government coerced American Indians into stewardship, it's therefor their (read: taxpayer) responsibility and financial burden under its own illegal laws.

Thanks for playin', though. whistle
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#1483405 --- 03/30/16 10:54 AM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: Timbo]
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I see the Oneida tribe is now claiming what was the Cayuga Lakeside Entertainment in Union Springs.
http://www.worldcasinodirectory.com/owners/oneida-indian-nation


halbritter can not own it
he stated in the newspaper article back when the 'compact' was signed that he needed state approval

is this further proof that there is NOT a cayuga 'reservation'?


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#1483417 --- 03/30/16 01:08 PM Re: Unity Council now known as Cayuga Nation Council [Re: bluezone]
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New York made separate purchases and leases of land from the Indians, which were not ratified by the US Congress.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cayuga_Nation_of_New_York

Under the 1794 Treaty of Canandaigua, 64,000 acres at the north end of Cayuga Lake were reserved to the Cayuga. This reservation was never disestablished, but New York sold off the land.[4] For the past 200 years, citizens mainly lived on Seneca reservations.[5]

In 2005 the Cayuga Nation began to purchase land within its reservation territory and provide assistance for Cayuga Nation members to return to their homeland.[6]


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