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#1512664 --- 01/23/18 02:07 AM Re: Walk the Talk [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Since NAs were slaughtered by the millions, a "fair solution for all" is clearly impossible, isn't it?
Yes it is.

How do you make restitution for genocide, "genius"? eek
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#1512665 --- 01/23/18 02:11 AM Re: Walk the Talk [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
The only debate you seem interested in conducting, is the kind in which get to avoid having to defend your arguments while ignoring the historical record in the process. whistle
What? I have defended my arguments on here many times. We took all their land by force.

Then how do you defend THESE atrocities, and how should punitive damages be meted out?

Are you going to answer the question, or is it simply more convenient NOT to? What would be the ethical penalty for such crimes? If the government violates someone's rights and then looses in court, taxpayers foot the bill for damages. Why should victims of Genocide deserve anything less???
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#1512669 --- 01/23/18 09:06 AM Re: Walk the Talk [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
If the government violates someone's rights and then looses in court, taxpayers foot the bill for damages. Why should victims of Genocide deserve anything less???

Originally Posted By: Timbo
How do you make restitution for genocide, "genius"? eek
You are indicating it is not possible to make restitution for genocide.

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#1512670 --- 01/23/18 09:09 AM Re: Walk the Talk [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Then roll the hell off my back. At least I'm offering a jumping-off point, beginning with restitution, exemption from ALL taxes, expansion of NA land and full sovereignty as I've previously and REPEATEDLY stated.
Wow. I have never seen this before. REPEATEDLY stated? You never stated this before that I have seen. Have you bluezone or anyone else?

*Then you're either blind as a bat or dumb as a brick. Take your pick.
No. You never said it on here before. So I see this as progress.

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#1512679 --- 01/23/18 01:09 PM Re: Walk the Talk [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Then roll the hell off my back. At least I'm offering a jumping-off point, beginning with restitution, exemption from ALL taxes, expansion of NA land and full sovereignty as I've previously and REPEATEDLY stated.
Wow. I have never seen this before. REPEATEDLY stated? You never stated this before that I have seen. Have you bluezone or anyone else?
*Then you're either blind as a bat or dumb as a brick. Take your pick.
No. You never said it on here before. So I see this as progress.

The hell I didn't. It's all plainly posted in black-and-white on this thread, the original "N.A. News" and "MORE N.A. News" threads. The fact that the mods chose to take down the original thread is utterly irrelevant. So is the fact that what you imagine to be "progress" is actually your lousy memory coupled with prideful ignorance.

Thread removal is what happens when the likes of you, bluezone, Decker and Smitty get to vandalizing discussions and posting harassing, racist, homophobic commentary and highjacking threads. Just like you've done with this one. Take it up with the mods if you've got a problem with them deleting the original thread.

Capiche?
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#1512680 --- 01/23/18 01:18 PM Re: Walk the Talk [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
If the government violates someone's rights and then looses in court, taxpayers foot the bill for damages. Why should victims of Genocide deserve anything less???

Originally Posted By: Timbo
How do you make restitution for genocide, "genius"? eek
You are indicating it is not possible to make restitution for genocide.

No, I'm not. I'm saying that to fail to make a concerted, long-overdue effort, is both obscene and inhumane.

And for God's sake... quit putting words in the mouths of others. Do you have some mental condition that compels you to do that, or do you do it simply because you know that your arguments have no chance of standing on their merits?

Whatever the case, knock it off and answer the question. If you can't answer my questions, then stop expecting me to answer yours.

Shheesh!!!
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#1512681 --- 01/23/18 01:20 PM Re: Walk the Talk [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
The only debate you seem interested in conducting, is the kind in which get to avoid having to defend your arguments while ignoring the historical record in the process. whistle
What? I have defended my arguments on here many times. We took all their land by force.

Then how do you defend THESE atrocities, and how should punitive damages be meted out?

Are you going to answer the question, or is it simply more convenient NOT to? What would be the ethical penalty for such crimes? If the government violates someone's rights and then looses in court, taxpayers foot the bill for damages. Why should victims of Genocide deserve anything less???


We're waiting for your answer(S)... whistle
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#1512682 --- 01/23/18 01:24 PM Re: Walk the walk... [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: bluezone
you have yet to offer any examples of the restitution you have provided

1) That's not how de facto 'restitution' works, now IS it?

2) You have yet to offer any examples of a willingness to meet half way.

Timbo-2
bluezone-0
Tell us what you think "halfway" would mean to you.

Read a dictionary. You can start with the word "compromise".
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#1512684 --- 01/23/18 01:37 PM Re: Walk the Talk [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
We're waiting for your answer(S)... whistle
We or you? You are a waste of time. The US government will never agree to giving the NA's more than they already have.

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#1512685 --- 01/23/18 01:39 PM Re: Walk the Talk [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
If you can't answer my questions, then stop expecting me to answer yours.

Shheesh!!![/size] crazy
You are totally ridiculous.

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#1512686 --- 01/23/18 01:47 PM Re: Walk the Talk [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
We're waiting for your answer(S)... whistle
We or you? The US government will never agree to giving the NA's more than they already have.

So, I can't speak for other forum members but you mistakenly believe that you're somehow qualified to speak for the entire US population/government, now?

Hypocrite.
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#1512687 --- 01/23/18 01:54 PM Re: Walk the Talk [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
We're waiting for your answer(S)... whistle
"You are a waste of time."

... says the guy who won't answer any questions or defend his own arguments with rational justifications. smirk
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#1512688 --- 01/23/18 02:00 PM Walk the Talk [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
If you can't answer my questions, then stop expecting me to answer yours.

Shheesh!!! crazy

You are totally ridiculous.

Well, if anybody would recognize "ridiculousness... grin

Apparently, you've come to believe that you alone are somehow not obligated to answer any questions put forth to you in matters relating to this debate.

How very convenient that must be.
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#1512691 --- 01/23/18 02:41 PM Re: Walk the Talk [Re: Timbo]
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I have never heard any member of congress discuss any possibility of more restitution for NA's. Therefore it is never going to happen and this is just an academic exercise we are having here and I am getting tired of it.

On the contrary some local Seneca County elected officials have from time to time grumbled about the local NA's not paying all the taxes that the rest of us pay.

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#1512703 --- 01/23/18 06:41 PM Re: Walk the Talk [Re: kyle585]
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I have never heard any member of congress discuss any possibility of more restitution for NA's. Therefore it is never going to happen.

Ahhh... the "goalpost-reversal/soothsayer gambit!"

One of your classics!
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#1512704 --- 01/23/18 06:41 PM Re: Walk the Talk [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
I am getting tired of it.

Then stop engaging me on the subject and I'll stop pointing out the absurdity of your hypocrisies, lack of facts, speaking for others, your unjustified sanctimony and false outrage, to say nothing of your willingness to forgive the atrocities of racial genocide while obsessively grousing over the horrors of white man's burden of "having to pay taxes".

If what N.A.s have suffered through isn't a big enough deal to do something about, then your measly little issue with taxes certainly isn't.

It's been real. Can't say I'll miss our little "chats". But then again, I'm sure you'll be unable to resist starting-up again, then try to blame me for your own lack of self control.

Peace, Brother.

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#1512710 --- 01/24/18 02:28 AM Re: Walk the Talk [Re: Timbo]
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If what N.A.s have suffered through isn't a big enough deal to do something about, then your measly little issue with taxes certainly isn't.
Wow. Taxes are probably the number one issue of importance to American citizens. But I see zero chance that our political system is going to want NA's to pay less taxes than they are now. This is just an academic exercise we going through here.

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#1512719 --- 01/24/18 11:05 AM Walk the Talk [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
If what N.A.s have suffered through isn't a big enough deal to do something about, then your measly little issue with taxes certainly isn't.
Wow. Taxes are probably the number one issue of importance to American citizens.

And based upon the sheer quantity of Trump-related comments that you post, that's just one more thing that you're categorically wrong about.
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#1512734 --- 01/25/18 06:31 AM Re: Walk the Talk [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
If what N.A.s have suffered through isn't a big enough deal to do something about, then your measly little issue with taxes certainly isn't.
Wow. Taxes are probably the number one issue of importance to American citizens.

And based upon the sheer quantity of Trump-related comments that you post, that's just one more thing that you're categorically wrong about.
What? You don't think taxes are not the number issue of importance to American citizens? OMG.

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#1512739 --- 01/25/18 11:09 AM Re: Walk the Talk [Re: kyle585]
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Go read the top headlines from virtually every news outlet in this country. That should answer your idiotic question.

As you say... "OMG!"
crazy crazy crazy
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