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#1478979 --- 11/25/15 09:09 AM Re: Save the white deer, birds and wildlife at the Seneca Army Depot [Re: kyle585]
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Like I said, we could have bar-be-cued White deer fund raisers grin

at a ratio of one male (buck) for every 25 females, I want to be a white buck in my next life wink
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#1478980 --- 11/25/15 09:32 AM Re: Save the white deer, birds and wildlife at the Seneca Army Depot [Re: kyle585]
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quote=kyle585 " Of course it will. The depot used to have deer hunts in the fall where they took out a certain number of white deer. That will just have to be continued." [/quote]

But people were against that TOO crazy

ever think that if they weren't limited to 3000 acres they may mulitply and there would be even more white ones ? Maybe we should fence off the whole county and iron off all the brown ones.
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#1478986 --- 11/25/15 10:20 AM Re: Save the white deer, birds and wildlife at the Seneca Army Depot [Re: kyle585]
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HEY, I've got an idea grin Seneca Meadows has about 2000 acres, how about fencing that in and relocating some white deer there and at Montezuma crazy

or we could get Cornell to play with their genes and come up with some red and blue ones crazy


Edited by Hello_Governer (11/25/15 10:43 AM)
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#1479402 --- 12/06/15 08:29 PM Re: Save the white deer, birds and wildlife at the Seneca Army Depot [Re: Ghosts]
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Gladly donated and will be holding an auction for them soon.
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#1480589 --- 01/10/16 10:09 AM Re: Save the white deer, birds and wildlife at the Seneca Army Depot [Re: WilllOWisp]
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TODAY page 1 section C, Finger Lakes Times

It looks like one of your precious white deer got out of the fence. Looks like it is doing quite well without your protection.

ALL YOU REALLY NEED IS A LAW THAT THEY CAN'T BE HUNTED
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#1480699 --- 01/14/16 07:44 PM Re: Save the white deer, birds and wildlife at the Seneca Army Depot [Re: Hello_Governer]
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Originally Posted By: Hello_Governer
but the white deer have been outside the fence for over 40 years and according to the DEC they can jump an 8 foot fence. crazy


Yes they can very easily.

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#1480722 --- 01/15/16 12:55 PM Re: Save the white deer, birds and wildlife at the Seneca Army Depot [Re: birdwatcher123]
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A while ago I asked if anybody has asked the DEC if all these plans are ok. The State owns those deer not Seneca County or the IDA. Just because a wild animal is on your property doesn't give you any right to claim them or try to contain them.
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#1480753 --- 01/17/16 09:06 AM Re: Save the white deer, birds and wildlife at the Seneca Army Depot [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Did you see todays paper ? What I didn't like about the article was the fact that now everyone knows a dead white deer is worth up to $3,000.00. The white deer did fine for decades when everybody left them alone, now the people who say they are trying to save them have made them a TARGET for every redneck in the state. crazy
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#1480759 --- 01/17/16 04:39 PM Re: Save the white deer, birds and wildlife at the Seneca Army Depot [Re: Hello_Governer]
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I read the article with complete disgust. So sorry for the tragic lost of the young lady's dog in such a brutal way.

I hope the morons who have been placing these horrible traps are caught and punished to the fullest extent of the law. First the traps are inhumane, second they are illegal, third they are stealing a rare natural resource that belongs to all of us. I sincerely hope Karma catches up with them soon.
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#1480764 --- 01/18/16 09:56 AM Re: Save the white deer, birds and wildlife at the Seneca Army Depot [Re: SilverFox]
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A few of the traps had the persons name on them who owned them, so I am thinking someone is gonna get a visit from the DEC at some point.

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#1480766 --- 01/18/16 11:39 AM Re: Save the white deer, birds and wildlife at the Seneca Army Depot [Re: DR. D]
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Originally Posted By: DR. D
A few of the traps had the persons name on them who owned them, so I am thinking someone is gonna get a visit from the DEC at some point.


unless they were working for the DEC, trying to get the coyote population down
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#1480767 --- 01/18/16 11:42 AM Re: Save the white deer, birds and wildlife at the Seneca Army Depot [Re: scwoodchuck]
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Originally Posted By: scwoodchuck
Originally Posted By: DR. D
A few of the traps had the persons name on them who owned them, so I am thinking someone is gonna get a visit from the DEC at some point.
unless they were working for the DEC, trying to get the coyote population down
With traps that are illegal in New York State? Fat chance.
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#1480771 --- 01/18/16 03:56 PM Re: Save the white deer, birds and wildlife at the Seneca Army Depot [Re: kyle585]
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did you forget WHO'S IN CHARGE ?
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#1480784 --- 01/19/16 06:11 PM Re: Save the white deer, birds and wildlife at the Seneca Army Depot [Re: Ghosts]
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.....and the name on the traps is?

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#1480785 --- 01/19/16 09:30 PM Re: Save the white deer, birds and wildlife at the Seneca Army Depot [Re: Hello_Governer]
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Originally Posted By: Hello_Governer
Like I said, we could have bar-be-cued White deer fund raisers grin

at a ratio of one male (buck) for every 25 females, I want to be a white buck in my next life wink


Use the brown ones for the meat it's all the same color/taste.

Save the white ones.

OBTW

"at a ratio of one male (buck) for every 25 females, I want to be a white buck in my next life ;)"

God son you'd be dead for sure!LOL

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#1480786 --- 01/19/16 09:37 PM Re: Save the white deer, birds and wildlife at the Seneca Army Depot [Re: Hello_Governer]
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Originally Posted By: Hello_Governer
A while ago I asked if anybody has asked the DEC if all these plans are ok. The State owns those deer not Seneca County or the IDA. Just because a wild animal is on your property doesn't give you any right to claim them or try to contain them.



WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it is still uncle Sam's. DOD owns it yet
has never been fully turned over. Clean up was going to take years to be clean. Then certified by some one. They are just waiting for a scape goat to come around and sign the final release papers. The state does use the air strip and rifle range. I just do not think the states owns any land yet.JMO



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#1480796 --- 01/20/16 08:42 AM Re: Save the white deer, birds and wildlife at the Seneca Army Depot [Re: birdwatcher123]
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who's talking about the depot ? I was only saying that any future plans for the white deer need to be OKed by the DEC.

but since you brought it up, would you eat anything grown there sick


Edited by Hello_Governer (01/20/16 09:32 AM)
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#1480838 --- 01/21/16 07:06 AM Re: Save the white deer, birds and wildlife at the Seneca Army Depot [Re: Top Dog]
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"80-year-old James W. Brown and 53-year-old Clint K. Moosman, both of Seneca Falls, are both charged with multiple counts of setting body-gripping traps larger than six inches and failing to identify traps. We're told the maximum penalty for each ticket is a $250 fine and/or 15 days in jail.

DEC officers say an eight-year-old Yellow Lab was killed in one of the traps while it was being walked by its owner near the fence of the depot. The owner told the Messenger Post the the dog "let out a yelp" and was trapped by the neck."

Another Complete Fail





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#1480856 --- 01/21/16 12:23 PM Re: Save the white deer, birds and wildlife at the Seneca Army Depot [Re: Ghosts]
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Besides a fine/jail term (which is minimal)
, I hope they have to pay for fence repairs, dog replacement and owner agony, police time/expense.

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#1480862 --- 01/21/16 04:02 PM Re: Save the white deer, birds and wildlife at the Seneca Army Depot [Re: loyal]
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Wonder if a civil suit could be filed for the loss of a companion animal? mad
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