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#1466192 --- 02/17/15 01:44 PM
Re: Hobart / Poverty
[Re: cwjga]
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Registered: 10/22/12
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DO you know that property taxes are not paid on that house? Good question for the city. I would guess that the house is part of his salary and would be taxed as it is used for personal use. Or at least a part of it. Indeed I do know, and the information is readily available to the public. You can confirm it yourself by visiting the Ontario County Online Resources site ( http://oncor.co.ontario.ny.us/oncor/). The site loads very slowly, but if you use the "Search Map" feature you can fairly easily zoom into Geneva to visualize the property upon which sits the mansion (parcel 104.19-2-1.100, also termed "Pulteney/Main/ St. Clair"). After selecting that property, clicking on "Estimated Taxes" at the top of the page reveals that no taxes of any type are paid on that property. Further digging reveals for previous years that taxes have never been paid. It doesn't matter that Mr. Gearan uses the mansion for personal or partially personal use: he pays no local taxes for his residence, and he never has. Mr. Gearan, the city, and HWS all believe that is perfectly fair. As a person required to pay substantial county/school/city taxes on my property, I believe otherwise. Then the city is missing out. a private individual is using that house, property taxes as such should be paid. Even cassella pays property taxes to the local school district, in the form of an agreed to payment. Because it is a private company using public property. Hobart should do no less. But if the city does not go after that, well---- Go to a flat income tax and problem is solved. Well as long as the city is not a sh-t hole that the employees of Hobart don't want to live in. How does our personal income tax liability equate to lowering our property tax which is based on the entire properties within said town/city/village. Again the problem doesn't stop just at Hobart-William Smith Colleges. Churches, Cornell Ext.(Experimental station) and associate properties are all exempt as well. When I left Geneva, the exemption rate was up to 55%. Again, you have a valid criticism but please do your homework before taking sole aim at just one target whereas there are many.As much as I hate to admit it, HWS colleges do add 40% to your local economy from August-May...ask any business, I did hoping to find some untruth to that fact. http://www.tax.ny.gov/research/property/reports/exempt/10exrpt.htm
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#1466213 --- 02/17/15 03:28 PM
Re: Hobart / Poverty
[Re: bluezone]
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Registered: 10/22/12
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I see that we are as usual getting into this nonsensical rhetoric which I am not going to engage my self in being that you have the same resources and hopefully intellect to research for yourself but we all know that research has the tendency to dispel misconceptions, lies, falsehood and half truths. Now heres a list of people I've talked to when I lived in Geneva. Coles Muffler Geneva Foreign and Sports Every Gas Sation Frank Wheeler Auto Repair Mom burger Deli Daves Auto Nonna's Restaurant Ramada Hotel Hampton Hotel Wegmans Tops Walmart BJs JMarsh Auto Kost Tires Denny's Ling Lings Restaurant Geneva on The lake Belhurst Castle Eddy Obriane Marks Pizza Uncle Joes Club 86 Red Dove Belhurst Castle I can emphatically state that I've talked at some time or other over the years as to how much business comes from college students and their parents. Now it's up to you to become somewhat nosy in ascertaining any of these establishments personal revenue.
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