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#1458278 --- 09/01/14 03:06 PM Bird Seed
MissingArty Offline
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Registered: 12/18/11
Posts: 2181
Loc: Waterloo, NY
I recently read that Scott's was putting pesticide in their bird seed so that the bugs wouldn't eat it and that birds are starving because the bugs are dying. Does anyone know where to buy bird seed that has no pesticide in it?

Also, has anyone else noticed a decline in bugs? My neighbor put out a bug zapper and I thought it would be a noisy summer, but I've noticed it's not going off very often and no buggy windshield this summer. I've not seen one Monarch and only a few bees.
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#1458279 --- 09/01/14 05:23 PM Re: Bird Seed [Re: MissingArty]
VM Smith Offline
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Registered: 11/28/05
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Loc: Ship of Fools
Note that only 13/100 of a percent of the bugs killed were female mosquitos, and the males don't bite. From the American Mosquito Control Association:

"Do Bug-Zappers work?
Black light insect electrocution devices (Bug Zappers, etc.) are purchased in huge quantities by homeowners due to their demonstrated ability to attract and kill thousands of insects over a 24 hr. period. One industry representative estimates that over 1.75 million of these devices are purchased annually in the U.S. But do they really control pest insects? Bug zappers do indeed kill some mosquitoes. However, the only two controlled studies conducted to date by independent investigators at the University of Notre Dame showed that mosquitoes comprised merely 4.1% and 6.4% respectively of the daily catch over an entire season. Even more important was the finding in both studies that there was no significant difference in the number of mosquitoes found in yards with or without bug zappers. What is particularly disconcerting, however, is the number of non-pest insects that comprise the vast majority of trap catch. Many of these insects are beneficial predators on other insect pests. They in turn constitute a major part of the diet of many songbirds. Indeed, reduced numbers of moth and beetle prey species have contributed significantly to the decline of songbird populations in many affluent suburbs. Insect electrocution devices undoubtedly bear some responsibility for this phenomenon. Mosquitoes continue to be more attracted to humans than to the devices. One study conducted in homeowners' backyards showed that of the insects killed by these devices, only 0.13% were female mosquitoes. An estimated 71 billion to 350 billion beneficial insects may be killed annually in the United States by these electrocuting devices."

Or you could move to Greeneville. I've always known that mosquitos love me; if there is one in the neighborhood, it will find me. I spend most of my time at home, inside or out, without a shirt. I'm out on my lawn right now, and often read out here until dark. I moved here June 12, and have not been bitten by a mosquito times. I've got to check to see what mockingbirds eat...they're the Tennessee State Bird, and my neighborhod is thick with them. Perhaps they eat mosquitos.

Yeah, the bees have been stressed by pesticides for years, and so, weakened to the point where other things, as well as the pesticides, are killing them. As I'm sure you know, it's a huge, and worsening, problem.

I seem to have plenty of bees here, but I use no chemical pesticides on my garden or lawn, and I grow the lawn long enough so the clover flowers, and thrives. In Dryden, I oversowed with clover. Clover fixes nitrogen, so if your lawn has clover, and you mulch clippings, you'll seldom need fertilizer. Bees love clover.
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#1458327 --- 09/02/14 03:48 PM Re: Bird Seed [Re: MissingArty]
young guns Offline
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Registered: 04/09/13
Posts: 834
Loc: USA
should of planted sun flowers for the birds and other little critters.
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