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#1452800 - 07/05/14 06:45 PM Vote to Cut 341 Million From the IRS Budget
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Republicans Vote to Cut 341 Million From the IRS Budget
By Steven Ahle on July 4, 2014 in Democrats, IRS, Politics

The House Appropriations Committee has voted to cut the IRS budget by 341 million dollars. Obama has requested a 1 billion dollar increase. Republicans plan to cut their budget in an effort to rein in the out of control corruption that the IRS has been engaged in due to orders from the White House, in my opinion. Considering that every crackdown on conservative groups were preceded by IRS managers meeting in the White House, including William Wilkins meeting directly with Obama just one day before Wilkins issued a new crackdown and the mysterious (Or not so mysterious) missing emails, point a large finger directly at the White House.

The funding will also carry conditions that the IRS must obey, including prohibiting the IRS from issuing new requirements for tax exempt groups. The IRS will no longer be able to issue bonuses to employees with marks against their work record or to employees who have not paid their income taxes. Over the past couple of years, the IRS have handed out in excess of 1 million dollars in bonuses to tax scofflaw employees.

The committee declared:

“This funding level is sufficient for the IRS to perform its core duties, including taxpayer services and the proper collection of funds, but will require the agency to streamline and make better use of its budget.”

“At a time when the IRS has demonstrated little ability to either self-police or self-correct, the IRS has even more authority over Americans’ health coverage. The committee finds this expansion of IRS authority to be unacceptable and, therefore, prohibits funding to implement the individual mandate and prohibits transfers from the Department of Health and Human Services to fund the IRS’s implementation of the Affordable Care Act.”

The bill specifically bars the IRS from targeting groups as they have done to the Tea Party. It also prevents the IRS from helping to implement Obamacare.

There is little doubt that the full House will pass the bill. From there it goes to the Senate, where Harry Reid cannot ignore it. Funding bills must be passed, even when a budget is not.No doubt the Senate will increase the money and remove the restrictions, laying the groundwork for a conference committee.

The democrats are in a vulnerable position here, because the Republicans do not need to compromise. Imagine the democrats trying to gain political advantage over the republicans for shutting down the IRS. If anything, it would increase the national vote count for the republicans by millions. This one is going to be fun. Can you imagine what excuses the talking heads at PMSDNC and CNN will make up for this? It’s popcorn and C-Span time for me.
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#1452812 - 07/05/14 09:27 PM Re: Vote to Cut 341 Million From the IRS Budget [Re: MWSG-17]
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#1452813 - 07/05/14 09:47 PM Re: Vote to Cut 341 Million From the IRS Budget [Re: sands]
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This whole thing can and will get interesting being that the idiot Republicans are exacting a grudge and revenge match against the IRS....in the mean time what are the chances of tax codes being changed to exact retaliation against the taxpayers....more than likely the higher income this time for a change. Conservative Logic 101 in the making...let the games begin. laugh laugh
It should be noted that a plethora of groups are abusing the tax exemption statures but now they'll get a "pass" more reasons to generate more tax revenue by other means to pay our Federal obligations.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2012...atment-at-risk/


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#1452818 - 07/05/14 10:59 PM Re: Vote to Cut 341 Million From the IRS Budget [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
This whole thing can and will get interesting being that the idiot Republicans are exacting a grudge and revenge match against the IRS....in the mean time what are the chances of tax codes being changed to exact retaliation against the taxpayers....more than likely the higher income this time for a change. Conservative Logic 101 in the making...let the games begin. laugh laugh
It should be noted that a plethora of groups are abusing the tax exemption statures but now they'll get a "pass" more reasons to generate more tax revenue by other means to pay our Federal obligations.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2012...atment-at-risk/


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Republicans are exacting a grudge and revenge match against the IRS


Congress doing their job and investigating the IRS isn't exacting a grudge.

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#1452819 - 07/05/14 11:15 PM Re: Vote to Cut 341 Million From the IRS Budget [Re: MWSG-17]
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Due process states that there's is a case of innocence until proven guilty....unless I missed the trial and factual findings....it's a "grudge" retaliation. You also best determine who "Congress" consist of in terms of members already determining guilt or are we still in the investigative stage?
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#1452821 - 07/05/14 11:36 PM Re: Vote to Cut 341 Million From the IRS Budget [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Due process states that there's is a case of innocence until proven guilty....unless I missed the trial and factual findings....it's a "grudge" retaliation. You also best determine who "Congress" consist of in terms of members already determining guilt or are we still in the investigative stage?



Let me say this again. But this time I'll type slower for you.


Congress doing their job and investigating the IRS isn't exacting a grudge . Its Congress doing what they got elected to do.

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#1452822 - 07/05/14 11:43 PM Re: Vote to Cut 341 Million From the IRS Budget [Re: MWSG-17]
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Originally Posted By: MWSG-17
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Due process states that there's is a case of innocence until proven guilty....unless I missed the trial and factual findings....it's a "grudge" retaliation. You also best determine who "Congress" consist of in terms of members already determining guilt or are we still in the investigative stage?



Let me say this again. But this time I'll type slower for you.


Congress doing their job and investigating the IRS isn't exacting a grudge . Its Congress doing what they got elected to do.


I now understand the deficiencies displayed in Romulus......tell us why Congress has failed to get anything done in the last 6 years in terms of job creation, uniform bilateral healthcare, minimum wages or immigration? it's a big joke on your part as well as embarrassing yourself to state that Congress is doing what they were elected to do.....and what would "doing their job" consist of exactly?
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#1452823 - 07/05/14 11:49 PM Re: Vote to Cut 341 Million From the IRS Budget [Re: Formermac]
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IRS investigation ongoing, Benghazi investigation ongoing, health care presented by Republicans....zilch.....minimum wage legislative bill...zilch...immigration bill.....zilch. I will emphatically say that we tax payers are getting the biggest rip off in American history in regard to getting our money's worth if all we put them on Capitol Hill to do is "INVESTIGATE"
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#1452834 - 07/06/14 08:31 AM Re: Vote to Cut 341 Million From the IRS Budget [Re: MWSG-17]
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Originally Posted By: MWSG-17
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Republicans are exacting a grudge and revenge match against the IRS
Congress doing their job and investigating the IRS isn't exacting a grudge.

It is, when you are aware of the fact that the the IRS didn't single out right wing organizations any more than left wing organizations.

Under Bush however, The IRS targeted liberal organization, almost exclusively.
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#1452841 - 07/06/14 08:53 AM Re: Vote to Cut 341 Million From the IRS Budget [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Originally Posted By: MWSG-17
Congress doing their job and investigating the IRS isn't exacting a grudge. Its Congress doing what they got elected to do.
...tell us why Congress has failed to get anything done in the last 6 years in terms of job creation, uniform bilateral healthcare, minimum wages or immigration? it's a big joke on your part as well as embarrassing yourself to state that Congress is doing what they were elected to do.....and what would "doing their job" consist of exactly?

Tick... Tock... <cue theme song from "Jeopardy"> grin
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#1452842 - 07/06/14 08:58 AM Re: Vote to Cut 341 Million From the IRS Budget [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Originally Posted By: MWSG-17
Congress doing their job and investigating the IRS isn't exacting a grudge. Its Congress doing what they got elected to do.
...tell us why Congress has failed to get anything done in the last 6 years in terms of job creation, uniform bilateral healthcare, minimum wages or immigration? it's a big joke on your part as well as embarrassing yourself to state that Congress is doing what they were elected to do.....and what would "doing their job" consist of exactly?

Tick... Tock... <cue theme song from "Jeopardy">

Answer: "What is a BS Argument? Alex." grin
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#1452843 - 07/06/14 08:58 AM Re: Vote to Cut 341 Million From the IRS Budget [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
IRS investigation ongoing, Benghazi investigation ongoing, health care presented by Republicans....zilch.....minimum wage legislative bill...zilch...immigration bill.....zilch. I will emphatically say that we tax payers are getting the biggest rip off in American history in regard to getting our money's worth if all we put them on Capitol Hill to do is "INVESTIGATE"


So you'd rather live under tyranny than a Republic. Congress is one part of our checks and balances, so let them do their job.
PS: I can't wait til Congress does the really big part of their job and Impeaches Barry.

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#1452844 - 07/06/14 08:59 AM Re: Vote to Cut 341 Million From the IRS Budget [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Originally Posted By: MWSG-17
Congress doing their job and investigating the IRS isn't exacting a grudge. Its Congress doing what they got elected to do.
...tell us why Congress has failed to get anything done in the last 6 years in terms of job creation, uniform bilateral healthcare, minimum wages or immigration? it's a big joke on your part as well as embarrassing yourself to state that Congress is doing what they were elected to do.....and what would "doing their job" consist of exactly?

Tick... Tock... <cue theme song from "Jeopardy">

Answer: "What is a BS Argument? Alex." grin
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#1452847 - 07/06/14 09:01 AM Re: Vote to Cut 341 Million From the IRS Budget [Re: MWSG-17]
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Originally Posted By: MWSG-17
Originally Posted By: Formermac
IRS investigation ongoing, Benghazi investigation ongoing, health care presented by Republicans....zilch.....minimum wage legislative bill...zilch...immigration bill.....zilch. I will emphatically say that we tax payers are getting the biggest rip off in American history in regard to getting our money's worth if all we put them on Capitol Hill to do is "INVESTIGATE"

So you'd rather live under tyranny than a Republic. Congress is one part of our checks and balances, so let them do their job.
PS: I can't wait til Congress does the really big part of their job and Impeaches Barry.

False Choice. Besides, give us just one reason to believe that they're sincere in any of their "investigations". Congressional Republicans haven't done their jobs for the past 6+ years (other than obstructing mountains of legislation that would have tremendously helped America).
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#1452849 - 07/06/14 09:09 AM Re: Vote to Cut 341 Million From the IRS Budget [Re: MWSG-17]
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Originally Posted By: MWSG-17
Originally Posted By: Formermac
IRS investigation ongoing, Benghazi investigation ongoing, health care presented by Republicans....zilch.....minimum wage legislative bill...zilch...immigration bill.....zilch. I will emphatically say that we tax payers are getting the biggest rip off in American history in regard to getting our money's worth if all we put them on Capitol Hill to do is "INVESTIGATE"


So you'd rather live under tyranny than a Republic. Congress is one part of our checks and balances, so let them do their job.
PS: I can't wait til Congress does the really big part of their job and Impeaches Barry.


ROTFLMBO, thanks for the confirmation, in case you haven't noticed, the Republicans are the tyrants. Your ignorance negates you from acknowledging the fact that Congress job is more than investigative findings but appropriating & passing bills that generates an ability for Americans to enjoy the privileges afforded them through voting their representative into Congress.


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#1452870 - 07/06/14 01:30 PM Re: Vote to Cut 341 Million From the IRS Budget [Re: Formermac]
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The GOP's anger at Obama won't overwhelm their desire to win the 2016 election and a party that wants to make gains among young and minority voters isn't going to make them by spending two years trying to impeach Obama.... a sure way to have the entire thing backfire on the Republicans. The same thing concerning Boehner's lawsuit.....LOLOLOLOL
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#1452871 - 07/06/14 01:38 PM Re: Vote to Cut 341 Million From the IRS Budget [Re: MWSG-17]
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Two heads of the same beast whoring themselves out to whoever waves the cash and power. You aren't even in the running to afford their cheapest hooker. My apologies to all the hard working ladies out there in the real world..

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#1452880 - 07/06/14 05:52 PM Re: Vote to Cut 341 Million From the IRS Budget [Re: Formermac]
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ROTFLMBO, thanks for the confirmation, in case you haven't noticed, the Republicans are the tyrants. Your ignorance negates you from acknowledging the fact that Congress job is more than investigative findings but appropriating & passing bills that generates an ability for Americans to enjoy the privileges afforded them through voting their representative into Congress.


What would be the point in impeaching him if they can't convict at trial? Right now they're focused on getting both houses in 2014. If they do, they may move to impeach, or they may want to keep Bozo around until 2016, as a perfect example of how awful the dems are.
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#1452885 - 07/06/14 08:12 PM Re: Vote to Cut 341 Million From the IRS Budget [Re: VM Smith]
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ROTFLMBO, thanks for the confirmation, in case you haven't noticed, the Republicans are the tyrants. Your ignorance negates you from acknowledging the fact that Congress job is more than investigative findings but appropriating & passing bills that generates an ability for Americans to enjoy the privileges afforded them through voting their representative into Congress.


What would be the point in impeaching him if they can't convict at trial? Right now they're focused on getting both houses in 2014. If they do, they may move to impeach, or they may want to keep Bozo around until 2016, as a perfect example of how awful the dems are.


That's not an impossibility but probable?.....I seriously doubt it.......The Republicans will have blemished their political brand to the extent that any Democrat will take the White House...even another "Bozo" as you put it... LOLOLOLOL
Memory will serve the American public well as to what damages Mr. Bush leveraged on this country and also remembering the hypocrisy of the Republicans to stand back and do nothing for the last 6 years......a perfect example of what the GOP will do in the continued destruction of racial equality, fairness toward the poor, helping corporate generate even more capital at the expense of the working middle class.....YESSSS VM...I think that the GOP at best, need to focus on more important agendas....most of which I've just explained. whistle

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#1452904 - 07/07/14 06:35 AM Re: Vote to Cut 341 Million From the IRS Budget [Re: VM Smith]
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