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#1507367 --- 10/27/17 11:38 AM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: ThomasDecker]
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Isn't it? not to mention, so harshly and blatantly hypocritical.

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#1507371 --- 10/27/17 12:54 PM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: cwjga]
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Premiums for the most popular ObamaCare plans are rising by an average of 34 percent in 2018 in states that use Healthcare.gov, according to a new independent analysis. The study released Wednesday by consulting firm Avalere Health said the premium increases in "silver" plans are being driven primarily by marketplace instability amid uncertainty over the future of ObamaCare. Specifically, the study said the Trump administration's elimination of cost-sharing reduction (CSR) payments, lower than anticipated enrollment in the marketplace, limited insurer participation and insufficient action by the government to reimburse plans that cover higher-cost enrollees all helped contribute to the premium increases...Silver plans are considered the benchmark plans for people who purchase insurance through an ObamaCare exchange. Average premiums for bronze, gold and platinum plans will rise 18, 16 and 24 percent, respectively, the analysis found.
Double-digit increases across every premium level, with the "baseline" plans hardest hit. Yes, the White House's legally-required decision to end illegal CSR payments is having an impact, but other driving factors are fundamental flaws in the law. Bad enrollment figures and fleeing carriers are direct results of the "Affordable" Care Act's lack of affordability. As ever, Obamacare is not failing because of Trump. Taken together, these stories point to an energetic and strengthening US economy while highlighting the ongoing failures of a Democratic scheme.
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#1507374 --- 10/27/17 01:03 PM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
Isn't it? not to mention, so harshly and blatantly hypocritical.



Trumpcare will be significantly cheaper in regard to cost to the individual but lets calculate the cost of not having health insurance in the first place.

Loss of assets
Loss of health, possibly your life
Bankruptcy.
Absorbent cost to the taxpayers to pay for emergency care which is passed on to the government.


http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/201...h-coverage.html

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#1507394 --- 10/27/17 08:36 PM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: Formermac]
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Don't drop out of school and get a good education and job so you don't have that problem! Why should I pay for healthcare for lazy people who can't stay in school and who can't keep a job!

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#1507396 --- 10/27/17 08:44 PM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: gassy one]
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Once again, you've displayed your ignorance son, Medicare is for senior citizens who are retired. Now tell us why should retirees lose healthcare through the fact that trumpcare drops many of those people?


http://garnetnews.com/2017/07/18/medicare-social-security-gop-chopping-block/

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#1507397 --- 10/27/17 08:53 PM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: Formermac]
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#1507444 --- 10/28/17 08:49 PM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: Formermac]
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I think you are the ignorant one! Why should retirees get a free pass on healthcare! They should have to pay something! Nobody should get a free pass!

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#1507459 --- 10/29/17 03:01 AM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
I think you are the ignorant one! Why should retirees get a free pass on healthcare! They should have to pay something! Nobody should get a free pass!
Wow. Retirees paid in Medicare their whole working lives. For that they now get free Medicare Part A which covers hospitals. If they want Medicare Part B which covers doctors they have a deduction from their social security check. If they want Medicare Part D which covers prescription drugs they have a deduction from their social security check. If they want additional health insurance in Part C they have a deduction from their social security check.
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#1507529 --- 10/29/17 08:57 PM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: kyle585]
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It doesn't take long to use up what you pay in!

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#1507540 --- 10/30/17 01:28 AM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
It doesn't take long to use up what you pay in!
LOL. If you paid it in 40 or more years ago, it has accumulated in value a lot since then.
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#1507587 --- 10/30/17 01:47 PM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Why should retirees get a free pass on healthcare! They should have to pay something! Nobody should get a free pass!

You really don't have a clue, do you? eek
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#1507592 --- 10/30/17 03:28 PM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Why should retirees get a free pass on healthcare! They should have to pay something! Nobody should get a free pass!

You really don't have a clue, do you? eek
His clue is they got nothing. Nothing. Oops wrong topic. grin
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#1507616 --- 10/30/17 08:45 PM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: kyle585]
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Kyle you in the ripple already? LOL!

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#1508501 --- 11/08/17 04:50 PM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: gassy one]
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/there-was-another-winner-tuesday-obamacare-n819031

Nov 8 2017, 2:07 pm ET

There Was Another Winner Tuesday — Obamacare’s Medicaid Expansion

Barack Obama may not be running for anything these days, but his signature health care law was a big winner in Tuesday’s elections, as voters rebelled against Republican lawmakers who have blocked Obamacare's Medicaid expansion.

Democrats are hopeful their victories are a harbinger of further gains as they look to capitalize on the law's rising popularity in polls — and repeal legislation's deep unpopularity — with more ballot initiatives, legislative efforts and campaign messages.

In Maine, voters passed a ballot initiative that would expand Medicaid to an estimated 70,000 residents by a margin of 18 points, 59-to-41, doing an end run around Gov. Paul LePage, a Republican who has vetoed five bills to do so.

Maine wasn't the only place where the results are relevant to Obamacare. The Democratic tsunami in Virginia, led by Gov.-elect Ralph Northam, also has health care implications.

For years, Gov. Terry McAuliffe, a Democrat, has sought to expand Medicaid but has been stymied by the Republican-controlled legislature. But on Tuesday, Democrats made surprise gains in the House of Delegates, potentially retaking the chamber from Republicans depending on a handful of uncalled elections.

"All the folks who fought me on Medicaid expansion, they all got blown out," McAuliffe told reporters on Tuesday.

The blue shift gives Northam, a pediatrician whose campaign emphasized his opposition to Obamacare repeal, a strong opportunity to renew the Medicaid push.
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#1508589 --- 11/09/17 07:56 PM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: kyle585]
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/obamacare-not-dead-600-000-people-just-signed-n819351

Trump Tried to Suppress Obamacare. But 600,000 Just Enrolled.

WASHINGTON — Over 600,000 people signed up for a plan through Obamacare's federal exchange in its first four days of open enrollment, significantly outpacing last year's sign-ups, according to official figures released Thursday.

The Centers on Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) said that 464,140 customers renewed their coverage while another 137,322 customers were new enrollees, for a total of 601,462. The number only includes people who signed up through the HealthCare.gov portal, which services 39 states.
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#1508603 --- 11/09/17 10:38 PM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: kyle585]
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Doesn't matter it will implode soon enough!

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#1508612 --- 11/10/17 01:45 AM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Doesn't matter it will implode soon enough!
Wow. You have no clue what is happening do you?
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#1508613 --- 11/10/17 01:52 AM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: kyle585]
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http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-healthcare-politics-democrats-20171108-story.html

Healthcare, for years a political winner for GOP, now powers Democratic wins

The polarizing issue of healthcare, which has dragged down Democrats since passage of the Affordable Care Act in 2010, emerged from Tuesday’s state elections as a potentially formidable new force in the party’s efforts to regain power in next year’s congressional elections.

In Maine, voters resoundingly backed a ballot measure to expand Medicaid through the federal healthcare law, rejecting President Trump’s effort to roll back the law and overriding their Republican governor’s refusal to embrace it.

And worries about healthcare in Virginia helped fuel a solid victory for Democratic gubernatorial candidate Ralph Northam and Democratic legislative candidates across the state. The issue topped voters’ concerns in exit polls Tuesday, with Northam winning a whopping three-quarters of those identifying healthcare as their priority.

“There has been a major change here,” said Robert Blendon, an expert on public opinion about healthcare at Harvard’s Kennedy School. “Democrats for years wouldn’t talk about healthcare. … Now, the implication is that if you are a Democrat running in 2018, you can talk about protecting healthcare for millions of Americans.”
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#1508614 --- 11/10/17 01:52 AM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: kyle585]
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In Washington, those results prompted Democrats to redouble their calls to Republicans to give up the repeal push and work on bipartisan fixes.

“If Republican leaders hadn’t gotten the message, voters made it perfectly clear last night that they reject the deeply harmful partisanship we’ve seen on healthcare,” Washington Sen. Patty Murray, the senior Democrat on the Senate Health Committee, said Wednesday.

Murray and her Republican counterpart, committee Chairman Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, have been urging GOP leaders to bring up a bipartisan bill they developed to stabilize health insurance markets around the country.
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#1508621 --- 11/10/17 05:48 AM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: gassy one
Doesn't matter it will implode soon enough!
Wow. You have no clue what is happening do you?


Most Republicans don't Kyle. Over the last 8 years ,the GOP has shut down the government over the ACA debate, failed at 60 attempts to repeal the ACA, rescinded the subsidies that support it and yesterday watching Paul Ryan state that he and his constituents are doing what the "people" want but the idiots haven't listen the the most recent news, individuals are signing up at a record pace to buy the very thing they claim the people don't want. Totally clueless that the people spoke in volume this past Tuesday.

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