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#1505646 --- 09/29/17 06:09 PM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: kyle585]
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Tom Price, who just resigned as health secretary after a scandal over his use of private jets, is worth $14.1 million, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

Price and his wife, who is also a doctor, have an extensive investment portfolio, according to his 2016 financial disclosure form. That made him the 9th wealthiest official in the executive branch, the center said.

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#1505647 --- 09/29/17 06:10 PM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: kyle585]
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Last year, as a member of the House, Price purchased up to $15,000 of Zimmer Biomet stock days before introducing legislation that would have directly benefited the medical device manufacturer, according to House records reviewed by CNN. Also, the Wall Street Journal reported in December that Price traded roughly $300,000 in health companies' shares over the past four years while pursuing legislation that could impact them.

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#1505668 --- 09/29/17 09:28 PM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: kyle585]
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Do you think he is any different than any other politician?

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#1505672 --- 09/30/17 03:01 AM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Do you think he is any different than any other politician?
Read this gassy and try and understand this if you never read anything I ever post again.

So you think we should just ignore this and let polticians spend whatever they want? Even your hero, Donald Trump, couldn't stomach this. Trump knew the heat he would get from the public would be more than he could bear from keeping Price on.

Why would there be so much heat? Because we have a free press that reports such topics to the public. That is why Trump complains so much about the press. Without a free press Trump could operate like his hero Putin and do whatever he wants including murdering journalists. The American free press reports what is going on in Russia. The Russian people don't know. The Russian people may suspect what is going on but they don't know or have any way of knowing the truth. Their press can't report anything critical of Putin without fearing for their lives. Our free press is our most important freedom. It allows me to post this without fear of going to jail or being murdered by our nations leaders.

If this is all blah,blah, blah to you then you don't understand what our constitution has done in making us a free people. And the great danger we now face in having a president who is so very critical of our press. Politicians who are hero's like John McCain speak up for the press.

http://forums.fingerlakes1.com/ubbthread...p;what=showflat

Meet the Press Feb 19 2017, 9:35 pm ET

Republican Sen. John McCain took a veiled swipe at President Donald Trump's attacks on the media, cautioning that suppressing the press “is how dictators get started.”

McCain, who has broken with Trump on several issues, made the comments in an exclusive interview with NBC’s "Meet the Press" host Chuck Todd, after being asked about the president’s condemnation of several media outlets as "fake news" and "an enemy of the American people."

"I hate the press. I hate you especially," McCain joked. "But the fact is we need you. We need a free press. We must have it. It's vital."

"If you want to preserve — I'm very serious now — if you want to preserve democracy as we know it, you have to have a free and many times adversarial press," McCain said. "And without it, I am afraid that we would lose so much of our individual liberties over time. That's how dictators get started."


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#1505678 --- 09/30/17 05:49 AM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/09/28/julia-louis-dreyfus-reveals-has-breast-cancer.html

Julia Louis-Dreyfus, the star of the hit HBO show "Veep," revealed on Thursday she has been diagnosed with breast cancer.

She wrote on Twitter, "1 in 8 women get breast cancer. Today, I'm the one. The good news is that I have the most glorious group of supportive and caring family and friends, and fantastic insurance through my union. The bad news is that not all women are so lucky, so let's fight all cancers and make universal health care a reality."
You mean she does not have Obamacare. Oh that's right she's a rich Dem.
My god. There are a lot more rich Reps than rich Dems.



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#1505681 --- 09/30/17 06:35 AM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: cwjga]
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I see you cherry picked what you wanted from that web site. I can do the same.

http://moneynation.com/the-net-worth-of-congress/

The Net Worth of Congress
Tom GerencerNov 12, 2015

The current estimated net worth of Congress is $7 billion dollars. In 2015, the typical member of the U.S. Congress had a net worth of over $1 million dollars.

The richest member of congress is Senator Darrel Issa (R-CA) with an estimated net worth of $448 million. The poorest is Rep. David Valadao (R-CA) with a net worth of -$3.7 million.

When it comes to lawmakers, who is richer, Democrats or Republicans?

Common sense would seem to dictate that Democrats are less wealthy than Republicans. However, that’s not the case. The average net worth of Democrats in Congress is actually quite a bit higher than the average net worth of their Republican counterparts.

The average Democrat in the U.S. Senate is twice as wealthy as the average Republican. When it comes to Representatives, their numbers are a lot closer together, with the average Republican at about 30% more than the average Democrat.

The trend has been for net worth to rise gradually in Congress except among Democrat Senators. In that group, wealth has dropped 60% since 2004.

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#1505682 --- 09/30/17 06:39 AM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: cwjga]
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Originally Posted By: cwjga
Go Trump clean the swamp
It is unrealistic to expect our richest president ever with a cabinet of bankers and billionaires to drain the swamp.

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#1505683 --- 09/30/17 06:49 AM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
I see you cherry picked what you wanted from that web site. I can do the same.

http://moneynation.com/the-net-worth-of-congress/

The Net Worth of Congress
Tom GerencerNov 12, 2015

The current estimated net worth of Congress is $7 billion dollars. In 2015, the typical member of the U.S. Congress had a net worth of over $1 million dollars.

The richest member of congress is Senator Darrel Issa (R-CA) with an estimated net worth of $448 million. The poorest is Rep. David Valadao (R-CA) with a net worth of -$3.7 million.

When it comes to lawmakers, who is richer, Democrats or Republicans?

Common sense would seem to dictate that Democrats are less wealthy than Republicans. However, that’s not the case. The average net worth of Democrats in Congress is actually quite a bit higher than the average net worth of their Republican counterparts.

The average Democrat in the U.S. Senate is twice as wealthy as the average Republican. When it comes to Representatives, their numbers are a lot closer together, with the average Republican at about 30% more than the average Democrat.

The trend has been for net worth to rise gradually in Congress except among Democrat Senators. In that group, wealth has dropped 60% since 2004.



I am not cherry picking anything. You are. Once again your generalizations are shown to be false and irrelevant.


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#1505684 --- 09/30/17 06:53 AM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: cwjga]
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trum...kushpmg00000009

When candidate Donald Trump traveled across the country to make the case for his presidency to the American people, he promised time and time again that he would find the ”best and most serious people” to come into his administration. He was going to drain the swamp of Washington and bring in the “top, top people.”

It was, after all, the skill that most of the country knew him for on “The Apprentice.” Trump boasted of his unique ability to spot talent and surround himself with those stars. He could do it in business, and he’d do it in government.

But many members of the team Trump assembled have shown few of those qualities, and the president has not been the manager he advertised himself as. In just eight months in office, the president has had to part ways with a shockingly high number of top officials because of misdeeds, controversy and infighting. It’s led to an administration without a significant legislative accomplishment under its belt.

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#1505696 --- 09/30/17 10:21 AM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: kyle585]
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Illegals are moving out! #1 priority for me!

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#1505702 --- 09/30/17 12:15 PM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Illegals are moving out! #1 priority for me!
And you think Trump did it all huh? How naive of you.

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/stat...-undocumented-/

There are no perfect statistics when it comes to illegal immigration — it’s inherently impossible to track accurately. But U.S. and Mexican government data analyzed by the Pew Research Center shows the immigration trend reversed in the last decade.

The estimated number of Mexicans in the United States illegally rose steadily for many years, from 2.9 million in 1995 to a peak of 6.9 million in 2007. But the number began dropping in 2008 and has fallen more since, reaching 5.8 million in 2014, the latest year for which Pew analyzed data.

If the number is falling, that means more illegal Mexican immigrants are leaving the United States than entering it. The numbers include both immigrants who entered the U.S. illegally and those who overstayed their visas.

According to Pew, key factors in the decline are the Great Recession, which meant U.S. job losses in construction and other sectors where Mexican immigrants are likely to work; a rising number of deportations; and increasing numbers of U.S. Border Patrol agents.

Immigration experts from a variety of think tanks said Pew’s research on illegal immigration is well respected and saw no reason to doubt its methodology.

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#1505703 --- 09/30/17 12:18 PM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: cwjga]
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Originally Posted By: cwjga
I am not cherry picking anything. You are. Once again your generalizations are shown to be false and irrelevant.

Hey Kyle --- Russia---
Kyle -- Russia? I am baffled by what you are talking about?

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#1505734 --- 09/30/17 01:42 PM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Illegals are moving out! #1 priority for me!
And you think Trump did it all huh? How naive of you.

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/stat...-undocumented-/

There are no perfect statistics when it comes to illegal immigration — it’s inherently impossible to track accurately. But U.S. and Mexican government data analyzed by the Pew Research Center shows the immigration trend reversed in the last decade.

The estimated number of Mexicans in the United States illegally rose steadily for many years, from 2.9 million in 1995 to a peak of 6.9 million in 2007. But the number began dropping in 2008 and has fallen more since, reaching 5.8 million in 2014, the latest year for which Pew analyzed data.

If the number is falling, that means more illegal Mexican immigrants are leaving the United States than entering it. The numbers include both immigrants who entered the U.S. illegally and those who overstayed their visas.

According to Pew, key factors in the decline are the Great Recession, which meant U.S. job losses in construction and other sectors where Mexican immigrants are likely to work; a rising number of deportations; and increasing numbers of U.S. Border Patrol agents.

Immigration experts from a variety of think tanks said Pew’s research on illegal immigration is well respected and saw no reason to doubt its methodology.
Tougher enforcement of the law is the reason and you know it! Trump isn't a pansy like Obama!

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#1505739 --- 09/30/17 02:12 PM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Tougher enforcement of the law is the reason and you know it! Trump isn't a pansy like Obama!
OMG. Did you notice this trend started in 2008? At that time all Trump was doing was groping women. And Obama was president during almost all that time.

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But the number began dropping in 2008 and has fallen more since, reaching 5.8 million in 2014

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#1505759 --- 09/30/17 09:05 PM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: kyle585]
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I think you'll find ICE arrests are up over 40% this year so far over Obama's last year! You gotta read real news not fake news! LOL!




Edited by gassy one (09/30/17 09:09 PM)

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#1505763 --- 10/01/17 12:53 AM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
I think you'll find ICE arrests are up over 40% this year so far over Obama's last year! You gotta read real news not fake news! LOL!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl...rump/484437001/

Arrests of undocumented immigrants by federal agents increased in June, but deportations fell to their lowest point this year as the nation's court system sees bigger backlogs, according to data released Monday by Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

ICE agents arrested 13,914 people last month, following a trend since President Trump took office in January and his campaign promise to crack down on illegal immigration.

In the final three months of the Obama administration, ICE averaged 9,134 arrests per month. That number has steadily increased under Trump, with the agency averaging 13,085 each month from February through June.

The Trump administration has not turned those arrests into more deportations, however, as those numbers keep falling.

In the final three months of the Obama administration, the agency averaged 22,705 deportations per month. That number has consistently fallen under Trump, with the agency averaging 16,895 from February through June, reaching its lowest point in June.

ICE Acting Director Thomas Homan recently said the drop in deportations is because of the backlog in federal immigration courts and the lengthy time to process each case. The number of cases waiting to be completed has surpassed 610,000 through June, according to the TRAC research project at Syracuse University.

Immigration courts have long been overburdened, with regular deportation cases taking up to two years to complete because of the volume of cases. The Trump administration has added to that backlog by arresting more people and cutting back on the Obama administration policy of allowing undocumented immigrants to be free on bond as they await their court hearings.

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#1505803 --- 10/01/17 08:25 PM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: kyle585]
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If they are here illegally they have no rights! Give them the boot!

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#1505808 --- 10/02/17 12:47 AM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
If they are here illegally they have no rights! Give them the boot!
Did you even read the post above? Obama deported a lot more than Trump.

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In the final three months of the Obama administration, the agency averaged 22,705 deportations per month. That number has consistently fallen under Trump, with the agency averaging 16,895 from February through June, reaching its lowest point in June.


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#1505867 --- 10/02/17 08:21 PM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: kyle585]
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Not arrests though!

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#1505875 --- 10/03/17 03:03 AM Re: The Obamacare thread is getting too long [Re: gassy one]
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Originally Posted By: gassy one
Not arrests though!
More arrests mean we put them in jail and support them whereas many of them had a low paying job that Americans don't want.

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