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#1443044 --- 04/03/14 08:39 AM Latest Hearing On Benghazi
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House Republicans on Wednesday held Benghazi hearing number 1,372,569, give or take, and this time they were determined to find the proof that had eluded them in the previous 1,372,568: that Obama administration officials had put politics before national security. Alas for the accusers, this hearing went the way of the others.

Another GOP Flop

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#1443058 --- 04/03/14 09:37 AM Re: Latest Hearing On Benghazi [Re: Lucinda Knotts]
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Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
House Republicans on Wednesday held Benghazi hearing number 1,372,569, give or take, and this time they were determined to find the proof that had eluded them in the previous 1,372,568: that Obama administration officials had put politics before national security. Alas for the accusers, this hearing went the way of the others.

Another GOP Flop



so you support the senseless murder of Americans just to protect that lying biotch Clinton......more of that liberal compassion/diversity!

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#1443079 --- 04/03/14 11:06 AM Re: Latest Hearing On Benghazi [Re: SportsRef1]
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No, I don't support senseless murder at all. But neither do I support hearings convened to try to find some basis for a preconceived conclusion that is not and has not been supported by the evidence and testimony of those called as witnesses. To use the deaths of four Americans as some meaningless pawns trying to prove a point dishonors them and the mission they believed, rightly or wrongly, they were meant to accomplish.

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#1443094 --- 04/03/14 12:49 PM Re: Latest Hearing On Benghazi [Re: Lucinda Knotts]
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Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
No, I don't support senseless murder at all. But neither do I support hearings convened to try to find some basis for a preconceived conclusion that is not and has not been supported by the evidence and testimony of those called as witnesses. To use the deaths of four Americans as some meaningless pawns trying to prove a point dishonors them and the mission they believed, rightly or wrongly, they were meant to accomplish.



when those in charge of collecting evidence stonewall at every stop, what would you expect?

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#1443098 --- 04/03/14 12:59 PM Re: Latest Hearing On Benghazi [Re: SportsRef1]
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Originally Posted By: SportsRef1
Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
No, I don't support senseless murder at all. But neither do I support hearings convened to try to find some basis for a preconceived conclusion that is not and has not been supported by the evidence and testimony of those called as witnesses. To use the deaths of four Americans as some meaningless pawns trying to prove a point dishonors them and the mission they believed, rightly or wrongly, they were meant to accomplish.



when those in charge of collecting evidence stonewall at every stop, what would you expect?
What you really mean is when the "investigators" don't get the answers they want to support their preconceived conclusions, it's time for yet another hearing.

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#1443144 --- 04/03/14 06:52 PM Re: Latest Hearing On Benghazi [Re: Lucinda Knotts]
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#1443154 --- 04/03/14 07:15 PM Re: Latest Hearing On Benghazi [Re: sands]
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I'll give you ONE big reason she will run and more likely win. The Benghazi issue has been almost non eventual for better than a year and the public is growing tire of the Conservative's petty gripes (not downplaying the 4 deaths) Republicans are desperately seeking a platform to run on and are finding the prospects to be very slim and almost laughable in regard to candidates or issues. The party of NO, the party of decimation of entitlements, discrimination toward minorities and immigrants, lastly the party who think that women are 2nd class citizens....... These same women will overwhelming vote for Hilary along with those angered by the transgressions committed toward the aforementioned.

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#1443157 --- 04/03/14 07:52 PM Re: Latest Hearing On Benghazi [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
the public is growing tire


How do you grow a tire confused
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#1443159 --- 04/03/14 07:57 PM Re: Latest Hearing On Benghazi [Re: sands]
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MY bad but you get the message. wink
I had this mental picture of Mitt Romney as he was setting up for the kill toward Obama during the October 2012 debate on Benghazi & Libya, as he became excited & anxious , Obama told him to "please proceed Governor" Almost 2 years later, the outcome is similar, the Republicans are embarrassing themselves. laugh laugh


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz86prvGGOc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZV9xLPWOPs


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#1443173 --- 04/04/14 04:52 AM Re: Latest Hearing On Benghazi [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Formermac
I'll give you ONE big reason she will run and more likely win. The Benghazi issue has been almost non eventual for better than a year and the public is growing tire of the Conservative's petty gripes (not downplaying the 4 deaths) Republicans are desperately seeking a platform to run on and are finding the prospects to be very slim and almost laughable in regard to candidates or issues. The party of NO, the party of decimation of entitlements, discrimination toward minorities and immigrants, lastly the party who think that women are 2nd class citizens....... These same women will overwhelming vote for Hilary along with those angered by the transgressions committed toward the aforementioned.



again, as I have cited many times, the so called war on women is something you lefties have participated more in than any other group in America....Abortions alone have murdered how many millions of females....and lets not forget how the Kennedy's and Clintons look at and treat women....in fact one of the Kennedy patriarchs managed to kill one.....so who really has been forging a war on women and looking at them as second class citizens Mac.....the last thing America needs is a feminist progressive who looks down on everyone,especially men, and women alike(and did you notice it was all men who died in Libya).....we already have a muslim sympathizer in the WH and look how thats paid off for the world!

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#1443211 --- 04/04/14 11:03 AM Re: Latest Hearing On Benghazi [Re: SportsRef1]
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I've finally got to the bottom as to why Republicans are a times confused as well as causing confusion for others.


http://news.yahoo.com/senator-goes-wrong-hearing-blames-moscow-144255965.html?vp=1

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#1443218 --- 04/04/14 11:18 AM Re: Latest Hearing On Benghazi [Re: SportsRef1]
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Originally Posted By: SportsRef1
Originally Posted By: Formermac
I'll give you ONE big reason she will run and more likely win. The Benghazi issue has been almost non eventual for better than a year and the public is growing tire of the Conservative's petty gripes (not downplaying the 4 deaths) Republicans are desperately seeking a platform to run on and are finding the prospects to be very slim and almost laughable in regard to candidates or issues. The party of NO, the party of decimation of entitlements, discrimination toward minorities and immigrants, lastly the party who think that women are 2nd class citizens....... These same women will overwhelming vote for Hilary along with those angered by the transgressions committed toward the aforementioned.



again, as I have cited many times, the so called war on women is something you lefties have participated more in than any other group in America....Abortions alone have murdered how many millions of females....and lets not forget how the Kennedy's and Clintons look at and treat women....in fact one of the Kennedy patriarchs managed to kill one.....so who really has been forging a war on women and looking at them as second class citizens Mac.....the last thing America needs is a feminist progressive who looks down on everyone,especially men, and women alike(and did you notice it was all men who died in Libya).....we already have a muslim sympathizer in the WH and look how thats paid off for the world!



Very pathetic that one must bring up a young man's youthful indiscretions way back in 1969 to make a point in regard to women being killed. Secondly, you commit the very infraction you've criticize others for doing.......going back into the archives in attempt to turn the spotlight off of current events. In regard to abortions, it's never been the Conservative's place to impede on personal individual rights......that very mindset only confirms and exposes another Conservative hypocrisy.....they want the government out of our personal lives (ACA) unless they decide that it's time to intervene. crazy

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#1443226 --- 04/04/14 11:51 AM Re: Latest Hearing On Benghazi [Re: ]
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Why Thomas, why are you so agitated today? It's obvious that somewhere and somehow you've neglected to take your meds. Now take a breather....... collect your thoughts.......(never mind) and take a second look at the Topic Header "Latest Hearing On Benghazi" your personal feeling about me shouldn't derail the subject, you're only showing everyone just how mentally dysfunctional you are. frown

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#1443241 --- 04/04/14 12:54 PM Re: Latest Hearing On Benghazi [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Fritz
Originally Posted By: Formermac
Why why are you so agitated today? It's obvious that somewhere and somehow you've neglected to take your meds. Now take a breather....... collect your thoughts.......(never mind) and take a second look at the Topic Header "Latest Hearing On Benghazi" your personal feeling about me shouldn't derail the subject, you're only showing everyone just how mentally dysfunctional you are. frown




Bathhouse Barry found his Goat (CIA Director) for Benghazi... Oh Stupid One!



Young Gun really did a number this time.
Once again....... Goat????????
Try another hit of whatever gets you back on track Thomas.

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#1443243 --- 04/04/14 01:06 PM Re: Latest Hearing On Benghazi [Re: Formermac]
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Another hit? Please, don't get him more addled and lost than he is already. He's probably posting from a smart phone while wandering around in some used Dodge car lot trying to remember where he saw me.
Originally Posted By: Fritz
I saw you where one of the Dodges

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#1443246 --- 04/04/14 01:16 PM Re: Latest Hearing On Benghazi [Re: Lucinda Knotts]
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Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
Another hit? Please, don't get him more addled and lost than he is already. He's probably posting from a smart phone while wandering around in some used Dodge car lot trying to remember where he saw me.
Originally Posted By: Fritz
I saw you where one of the Dodges


One problems with that premise.....a smartphone and Harley are not compatible but now that you bring it up, he actually does favor a 58 Desoto, which was considered a good ideal by Chrysler initially but was discontinued due to a lack of public interest.

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#1443270 --- 04/04/14 03:18 PM Re: Latest Hearing On Benghazi [Re: ]
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Good News, San Diego: Hillary Won’t Be Showing Due To Your Planned Benghazi Protest

Must be they did not hear that it "just dose not matter"

Too bad we could not have kept her out of NY.


Edited by cwjga (04/04/14 03:19 PM)
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#1446150 --- 04/30/14 01:42 PM Re: Latest Hearing On Benghazi [Re: cwjga]
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2...WqxiShQZQhrRzrm

CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER: It's wrong in all of those counts. It is in conflict with what we've been told, with what Jay Carney has been saying and that is their story has always been this stuff all came from the CIA, from intelligence, so it was completely clean. Now we know from [Michael] Morell who testified under oath -- he at the time was the deputy director of the CIA -- that he never brought up the video so it didn't come from him. That leaves only the White House and the State Department.

We now have the smoking document, which is the White House saying we're pushing the video because we don't want to blame it on the failure of our policies, which is what anybody whose looked at this assumed all the way through. Before an election, Obama is saying al Qaeda is dead, GM is alive, al Qaeda is dead. He's running essentially the foreign policy issue on which the whole campaign is based is one that says he killed bin Laden, al Qaeda is on the run.

So, this undermines the whole narrative. Therefore, they have to invent the video. So, I think this is extremely important. Now, I know what's going to happen, the mainstream media is going to say, 'oh, it's so complicated,' and they are not going to look into this and without it, it is going to be quite a struggle.

I think the Republicans have something here that really aught to be looked at, I just don't know if there's going to be any interest in the mainstream media. They should because this exposes a coverup of a coverup. The fact that it was redacted, when the documents were asked for, and only revealed by a court order is telling you this is a classic coverup of a coverup, and that is a serious offense.
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#1446303 --- 05/02/14 02:48 PM Re: Latest Hearing On Benghazi [Re: cwjga]
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Boehner reported to OK House Select Committee on Benghazi with Trey Gowdy as chair
Thomas Lifson


At last, we have a chance of getting to the bottom of who created the lie that Benghazi was a spontaneous demonstration motivated by a YouTube video almost nobody saw, who authorized the series of lies from Susan Rice, Jay Carney, and pothers, and what President Obama and then-Secretary of State were doing the night of September 11, 2012 as Amb. Stevens was being tortured and killed. Benghazigate truly has entered a new phase.

Multiple sources, including the Weekly Standard and the UK Daily Mail are reporting that Speaker Boehner is going forward with a vote to establish a House Select Committee headed by Rep. Trey Gowdy to investigate Benghazi.

Update. Here is Boehner's statement:

Americans learned this week that the Obama Administration is so intent on obstructing the truth about Benghazi that it is even willing to defy subpoenas issued by the standing committees of the People’s House. These revelations compel the House to take every possible action to ensure the American people have the truth about the terrorist attack on our consulate that killed four of our countrymen. In light of these new developments, the House will vote to establish a new select committee to investigate the attack, provide the necessary accountability, and ensure justice is finally served.

The administration’s withholding of documents – emails showing greater White House involvement in misleading the American people – is a flagrant violation of trust and undermines the basic principles of oversight upon which our system of government is built. And it forces us to ask the question, what else about Benghazi is the Obama administration still hiding from the American people?

The House committees that have been investigating this attack have done extraordinary work, using their subpoena power, holding dozens of hearings, and conducting hundreds of interviews. Without this work we would not know much that we do today. But it’s clear that questions remain, and the administration still does not respect the authority of Congress to provide proper oversight. This dismissiveness and evasion requires us to elevate the investigation to a new level. I intend for this select committee to have robust authority, and I will expect it to work quickly to get answers for the American people and the families of the victims.

Four Americans died at the hands of terrorists nearly 20 months ago, and we are still missing answers, accountability, and justice. It’s time that change.

David Martosko of the Daily Mail writes:

[Angry Republicans are] launching a new investigative committee to dig further into the scandal, which erupted just weeks before President Obama's re-election. He insisted at the time that al-Qaeda was 'on the run,' but documents now confirm that the State Department knew immediately that it was a terror attack carried out by an al-Qaeda-affiliated group.

Two emails have emerged in the past 24 hours that suggest Obama administration officials knew immediately that the group, Ansar al-Shariah, laid waste to U.S. diplomatic facilities in the Eastern Libyan city.

But the president, then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, then-UN Ambassador Susan Rice and other officials told the public that the deadly attack was the result of a spontaneous anti-America protest sparked by an anti-Islam video.

The State Department has concealed both documents from the public.

One showed Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes setting up a conference call to coach Rice on emphasizing the video during TV interviews. That email was only made public on Wednesday because of a lawsuit from the center-right group Judicial Watch.

Utah Republican Rep. Jason Chaffetz released the other email Thursday night. Former CBS investigative reporter Sharyl Attkisson first reported that it showed Assistant Secretary of State Beth Jones writing to senior officials within hours of the Benghazi attack to explain that she had told Libya's U.S. ambassador 'the group that conducted the attacks – Ansar Al Sharia – is affiliated with Islamic extremists.' (snip)

California Republican Rep. Darrell Issa, who chairs the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, wrote to Kerry on Friday to demand his testimony, saying that the State Department has 'shown a disturbing disregard' for its 'legal obligations' to comply with congressional demands.

'Compliance with a subpoena for documents is not a game,' Issa wrote.

'The fact that these documents were withheld from Congress for more than 19 months is alarming. The Department is not entitled to delay responsive materials because it is embarrassing or implicates the roles and actions of senior officials.'

South Carolina Rep. Trey Gowdy will reportedly chair the special 'select' committee, a bipartisan panel that will have broad subpoena power and the ability to interrogate witnesses at length.

Ordinary congressional committees typically allow members five minutes each for questions, a short enough time for witnesses to stall for time.

House Speaker John Boehner said Friday that the House will vote to establish the committee, a formality since his Republican conference is the controlling majority.

'Americans learned this week that the Obama Administration is so intent on obstructing the truth about Benghazi that it is even willing to defy subpoenas issued by the standing committees of the People's House,' Boehner said in a statement.

We already have outright lies and concealment of evidence, itself a major scandal and indicators of something worse being covered up. Trey Gowdy is a razor-sharp former prosecutor whose Southern accent can be disarming to smarmy types who assume anyone from the South is slow-witted. Let’s hope this bigotry afflicts many of the witnesses who will face Chairman Gowdy. They will live to regret it.

The faint odor of Watergate is getting stronger. Mainstream media, whose dominant instinct is to protect Obama, now face an uncomfortable choice: continue to sneer as evidence accumulates, or join Fox News (and now several others) in reporting the gory details.
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#1446305 --- 05/02/14 02:53 PM Re: Latest Hearing On Benghazi [Re: VM Smith]
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<snicker> crazy
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