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#1442857 --- 04/02/14 06:09 AM
Re: Tribe not paying their fair share.
[Re: kyle585]
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Registered: 01/19/03
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Loc: Greeneville, TN
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#1442861 --- 04/02/14 08:15 AM
Re: Tribe not paying their fair share.
[Re: kyle585]
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Registered: 10/11/11
Posts: 2272
Loc: S2Hphoto
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FRONT PAGE NEWS TODAY
By JIM MILLER
jmiller@fltimes.com
The state budget will include money to offset the property taxes the Cayuga Indian Nation refuses to pay Seneca and Cayuga counties. State Sen. Mike Nozzolio, R-54 of Fayette, announced the $2.5 million allocation Sunday, ahead of the final budget votes. “It is critically important to the future economic viability of our region that we take the steps necessary to protect our taxpayers from this unfair situation, and I was proud to lead the effort to include this funding in the final 2014-15 State Budget,” Nozzolio said in a press release.
Bob Hayssen, town of Varick supervisor and chairman of the Seneca County Board of Supervisors, welcomed the news. He said the allocation would offset the impact of several years of back taxes. Seneca County is expected to receive $1.8 million and Cayuga County $700,000. “It really doesn’t cover the taxes: Those taxes will still be owed to us,” Hayssen said. “Those taxes aren’t going away because Albany sent us some money. That’s what’s gotta be really stressed. This is basically money from Albany to make our bottom-line balance sheets balance out.”
Brad Jones, chairman of the Citizen Advisory Committee to the Indian Affairs Committee of the Seneca County Board of Supervisors, called the allocation good news. However,
he worries about its long- term implications. “This Band-Aid will help only for the short term,” he wrote in an email. “This relief is nothing more than double taxation for taxpayers such as us. Now, all the politicians (town, county, state, federal) will step back and watch more and more land be purchased by the Cayugas; and property taxes will never be paid by them."
So now that they've received MORE than what is owed are they going to give refunds to property owners and reduce property taxes??? I got $100 that says they won't and they will find 50 other things for the money including welfare! I find it funny that Seneca and Cayuga Counties can't balance a budget without expecting taxes from the Cayuga's. Yet Onondaga County can do it without expecting tax revenue from the Onondaga Nation and even LOWER county property taxes!
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#1442868 --- 04/02/14 10:36 AM
Re: Tribe not paying their fair share.
[Re: teedoff27]
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Senior Member
Registered: 11/30/03
Posts: 3225
Loc: Seneca County
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FRONT PAGE NEWS TODAY
By JIM MILLER
jmiller@fltimes.com
The state budget will include money to offset the property taxes the Cayuga Indian Nation refuses to pay Seneca and Cayuga counties. State Sen. Mike Nozzolio, R-54 of Fayette, announced the $2.5 million allocation Sunday, ahead of the final budget votes. “It is critically important to the future economic viability of our region that we take the steps necessary to protect our taxpayers from this unfair situation, and I was proud to lead the effort to include this funding in the final 2014-15 State Budget,” Nozzolio said in a press release.
Bob Hayssen, town of Varick supervisor and chairman of the Seneca County Board of Supervisors, welcomed the news. He said the allocation would offset the impact of several years of back taxes. Seneca County is expected to receive $1.8 million and Cayuga County $700,000. “It really doesn’t cover the taxes: Those taxes will still be owed to us,” Hayssen said. “Those taxes aren’t going away because Albany sent us some money. That’s what’s gotta be really stressed. This is basically money from Albany to make our bottom-line balance sheets balance out.”
Brad Jones, chairman of the Citizen Advisory Committee to the Indian Affairs Committee of the Seneca County Board of Supervisors, called the allocation good news. However,
he worries about its long- term implications. “This Band-Aid will help only for the short term,” he wrote in an email. “This relief is nothing more than double taxation for taxpayers such as us. Now, all the politicians (town, county, state, federal) will step back and watch more and more land be purchased by the Cayugas; and property taxes will never be paid by them."
So now that they've received MORE than what is owed are they going to give refunds to property owners and reduce property taxes??? I got $100 that says they won't and they will find 50 other things for the money including welfare! I find it funny that Seneca and Cayuga Counties can't balance a budget without expecting taxes from the Cayuga's. Yet Onondaga County can do it without expecting tax revenue from the Onondaga Nation and even LOWER county property taxes! be careful.......suggesting they learn how to budget without it will draw scorn and baseless questions from Kyle!
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#1442970 --- 04/02/14 11:18 PM
Re: Tribe not paying their fair share.
[Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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Registered: 11/29/05
Posts: 38160
Loc: Ship of Fools
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Hey Rich, what would be the combined property tax on a place appraised at $100,000 in your neighborhood? Okay..."combined" is a joke, since there is no school property tax in Tenn, and you're just out of the city, 1.5 mi. from the historic downtown. No Tenn. income tax either.  I'm assessed at $187,000 and my combined property taxes are $780. So a $100,000 house would have combined property taxes of $411.00.  In 2012 I was assessed at $214,700, and paid $8,300 in SC, SFCSD, and Fayette Town taxes. That would be just shy of $4,000 on a $100,000 property...maybe 9x the Greene County rate. Compare that approx 9x to what these figure to in comparative % terms. Both sets from wikipedia; I'm surprised that Timbo missed them. Well, not really...he looks for what he wants to look for, which are usually the wrong things : Greene Cty: med household income: 30,382 med family income: 36,889 per capita income: 15,796 Seneca Cty: Med household income: 37,140 med fam inc: 45,445 per cap inc: 17,630 I'll never again own property in SC, or NYS; I wish I'd been smart enough to flee the Failed State Project 20 yrs ago...I guess I was afraid to leave my familiar comfort zone...sort of like the frog in the pot of water which is heating up. So soon so old, so late so smart. I'll see you in June. Tenn. has a higher sales tax; it taxes consumption more. A home is the biggest asset of most people, and Tenn. taxes that less, and there is no income tax; it wants more wealth and income, and lower wasteful consumption, and thus, a higher savings rate. Also, by financing schools through sales tax, everyone has skin in the game, proportionate to spending, which is more proportionate to income than is what house one chooses to live in. I like the mindset. And I'd like to see those 2 data sets compared over the last several decades; I suspect that Tenn. has greatly closed the gap between them, for excellent reasons, which the socialists running the FSP will never be able to understand.
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