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#1441374 --- 03/24/14 08:50 PM When Standards Aren't Standardized
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The Fatal Flaw of the Common Core Standards
Diane Ravitch03/24/14 09:16 AM ET
Across the nation, parents and educators are raising objections to the Common Core standards, and many states are reconsidering whether to abandon them and the federally-funded tests that accompany them. Arne Duncan, Jeb Bush, Bill Gates, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, and the Business Roundtable vocally support them, yet the unease continues and pushback remains intense.

Why so much controversy?

The complaints are coming from all sides: from Tea Party activists who worry about a federal takeover of education and from educators, parents, and progressives who believe that the Common Core will standardize instruction and eliminate creativity in their classrooms.

But there is a more compelling reason to object to the Common Core standards.

They were written in a manner that violates the nationally and international recognized process for writing standards. The process by which they were created was so fundamentally flawed that these "standards" should have no legitimacy.

Setting national academic standards is not something done in stealth by a small group of people, funded by one source, and imposed by the lure of a federal grant in a time of austerity.

There is a recognized protocol for writing standards, and the Common Core standards failed to comply with that protocol.

In the United States, the principles of standard-setting have been clearly spelled out by the American National Standards Institute (ANSI).

On its website ANSI describes how standards should be developed in every field. The American National Standards Institute:

"has served in its capacity as administrator and coordinator of the United States private sector voluntary standardization system for more than 90 years. Founded in 1918 by five engineering societies and three government agencies, the Institute remains a private, nonprofit membership organization supported by a diverse constituency of private and public sector organizations.

"Throughout its history, ANSI has maintained as its primary goal the enhancement of global competitiveness of U.S. business and the American quality of life by promoting and facilitating voluntary consensus standards and conformity assessment systems and promoting their integrity. The Institute represents the interests of its nearly 1,000 company, organization, government agency, institutional and international members through its office in New York City, and its headquarters in Washington, D.C."

ANSI's fundamental principles of standard-setting are transparency, balance, consensus, and due process, including a right to appeal by interested parties. According to ANSI, there are currently more than 10,000 American national standards, covering a broad range of activities.

The Common Core standards were not written in conformity with the ANSI standard-setting process that is broadly recognized across every field of endeavor.

If the Common Core standards applied to ANSI for recognition, they would be rejected because the process of writing the standards was so deeply flawed and did not adhere to the "ANSI Essential Requirements."

ANSI states:

"Due process is the key to ensuring that ANSs are developed in an environment that is equitable, accessible and responsive to the requirements of various stakeholders. The open and fair ANS process ensures that all interested and affected parties have an opportunity to participate in a standard's development. It also serves and protects the public interest since standards developers accredited by ANSI must meet the Institute's requirements for openness, balance, consensus and other due process safeguards."
The Common Core standards cannot be considered standards when judged by the ANSI requirements. According to ANSI, the process of setting standards must be transparent, must involve all interested parties, must not be dominated by a single interest, and must include a process for appeal and revision.

The Common Core standards were not developed in a transparent manner. The standard-setting and writing of the standards included a significant number of people from the testing industry, but did not include a significant number of experienced teachers, subject-matter experts, and other educators from the outset, nor did it engage other informed and concerned interests, such as early childhood educators and educators of children with disabilities. There was no consensus process. The standards were written in 2009 and adopted in 2010 by 45 states and the District of Columbia as a condition of eligibility to compete for $4.3 billion in Race to the Top funding. The process was dominated from start to finish by the Gates Foundation, which funded the standard-setting process. There was no process for appeal or revision, and there is still no process for appeal or revision.

The reason to oppose the Common Core is not because of their content, some of which is good, some of which is problematic, some of which needs revision (but there is no process for appeal or revision).

The reason to oppose the Common Core standards is because they violate the well-established and internationally recognized process for setting standards in a way that is transparent, that recognizes the expertise of those who must implement them, that builds on the consensus of concerned parties, and that permits appeal and revision.

The reason that there is so much controversy and pushback now is that the Gates Foundation and the U.S. Department of Education were in a hurry and decided to ignore the nationally and internationally recognized rules for setting standards, and in doing so, sowed suspicion and distrust. Process matters.

According to ANSI, here are the core principles for setting standards:

The U.S. standardization system is based on the following set of globally accepted principles for standards development:

Transparency

Essential information regarding standardization activities is accessible to all interested parties.

Openness

Participation is open to all affected interests.

Impartiality

No one interest dominates the process or is favored over another.

Effectiveness and Relevance

Standards are relevant and effectively respond to regulatory and market needs, as well as scientific and technological developments.

Consensus

Decisions are reached through consensus among those affected.

Performance-based

Standards are performance based (specifying essential characteristics rather than detailed designs) where possible.

Coherence

The process encourages coherence to avoid overlapping and conflicting standards.

Due Process

Standards development accords with due process so that all views are considered and appeals are possible.

Technical Assistance

Assistance is offered to developing countries in the formulation and application of standards.

In addition, U.S. interests strongly agree that the process should be:

Flexible

Allowing the use of different methodologies to meet the needs of different technology and product sectors;

Timely

So that purely administrative matters do not result in a failure to meet market expectations; and

Balanced among all affected interests.

Lacking most of these qualities, especially due process, consensus among interested groups, and the right of appeal, the Common Core cannot be considered authoritative, nor should they be considered standards. The process of creating national academic standards should be revised to accord with the essential and necessary procedural requirements of standard-setting as described by the American National Standards Institute. National standards cannot be created ex nihilo without a transparent, open, participatory consensus process that allows for appeal and revision.
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#1441430 --- 03/25/14 09:11 AM Re: When Standards Aren't Standardized [Re: twocats]
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what prompted going to common core?
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#1442308 --- 03/30/14 03:06 PM Re: When Standards Aren't Standardized [Re: bluezone]
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[quote=bluezone]what prompted going to common core? [/quote

The Liberals Obama and Duncan. With their Federal take over of the education system.

I have to say it is fun watch liberals fighting liberals. grin
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#1442319 --- 03/30/14 05:24 PM Re: When Standards Aren't Standardized [Re: cwjga]
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Common Core and high stakes testing enjoy bi-partisan support which I believe, in this case, is an indicator of ruling class policy.



Common Core backer: For public schools, it’s great. For my private school, not so much.
BY VALERIE STRAUSS
March 30 at 11:56 am



One of the big disconnects in Common Core advocacy is that a lot of the people who think the standards are vital to the future of America and want to see them implemented in public schools everywhere send their children to private schools that have not adopted the Core.

President Obama comes to mind: His daughters attend Sidwell Friends School, a private school in Washington that not only doesn’t have the Common Core but doesn’t subscribe to other Obama education reforms (like linking teacher pay with student test scores). Bill and Melinda Gates, whose foundation funded the creation of the Common Core, send their children to an elite private school in Seattle that doesn’t teach by the Core (and doesn’t seem to care a whit about some of the other education reform policies Gates supports).

Apparently they don’t follow what education historian and advocate Diane Ravitch wrote is the most famous line ever written by John Dewey:
“What the best and wisest parent wants for his own child, that must the community want for all its children. Any other ideal for our schools is narrow and unlovely; acted upon, it destroys our democracy.”

This all brings us to Candice McQueen, who until recently was dean of Lipscomb University’s College of Education. It was announced in January that she had been promoted to a senior vice president at the university, overseeing the College of Education and Lipscomb Academy, a pre-K-12 private school affiliated with the university. As the Lipscomb education dean, McQueen became a booster of the Common Core and often testified in its support — at the request of the Tennessee Education Department, according to this Nashville Public Radio story.

But shortly after taking her new job, she sent a letter to Lipscomb Academy’s parents who were worried that she would implement the Common Core standards at the private school. According to the Nashville Public Radio story, the letter said she has asked faculty to familiarize themselves with the Core standards but that this did not mean in any way that the school would adopt them. It quotes from the letter:
“I will continue to be part of the ongoing CCSS conversation. However, this should not be extrapolated to indicate or predict the adoption of CCSS at Lipscomb Academy.”


Asked by WPLN why Common Core wouldn’t be used at her school, McQueen referred back to her letter.
“We make decisions about what’s going to be best within the context of our community,” she said. “I would say that’s absolutely what we’re going to do now and for the future.”
The story also notes that most of Nashville’s private schools don’t follow the testing regime or the standards that are used in public schools, although this is not singular to Nashville. It is also true in the greater Washington area and everywhere else around the country. I recently published an open letter to Obama from Bertis Downs, a parent in Athens, Ga., who wrote in part:

The policies currently promoted by your Department of Education are actually hurting– not helping– schools like ours. It is clear we will reduce schools’ efficacy if public education remains fixated on tests that only measure limited concepts – tests that regularly relegate less advantaged children into the “bottom half” and limit their access to broader education.

Why does the law distill the interactions of our teachers and students over the course of a year into a high-stakes multiple choice test? Is this really a valid system of accountability for teachers, based so heavily on their students’ test scores? If so, why are so many public school parents, teachers and students pushing back against it? And why aren’t the private schools insisting on it?

Good questions.
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#1442414 --- 03/31/14 06:53 AM Re: When Standards Aren't Standardized [Re: twocats]
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Originally Posted By: twocats
Common Core and high stakes testing enjoy bi-partisan support which I believe, in this case, is an indicator of ruling class policy.



Common Core backer: For public schools, it’s great. For my private school, not so much.
BY VALERIE STRAUSS
March 30 at 11:56 am



One of the big disconnects in Common Core advocacy is that a lot of the people who think the standards are vital to the future of America and want to see them implemented in public schools everywhere send their children to private schools that have not adopted the Core.

President Obama comes to mind: His daughters attend Sidwell Friends School, a private school in Washington that not only doesn’t have the Common Core but doesn’t subscribe to other Obama education reforms (like linking teacher pay with student test scores). Bill and Melinda Gates, whose foundation funded the creation of the Common Core, send their children to an elite private school in Seattle that doesn’t teach by the Core (and doesn’t seem to care a whit about some of the other education reform policies Gates supports).

Apparently they don’t follow what education historian and advocate Diane Ravitch wrote is the most famous line ever written by John Dewey:
“What the best and wisest parent wants for his own child, that must the community want for all its children. Any other ideal for our schools is narrow and unlovely; acted upon, it destroys our democracy.”

This all brings us to Candice McQueen, who until recently was dean of Lipscomb University’s College of Education. It was announced in January that she had been promoted to a senior vice president at the university, overseeing the College of Education and Lipscomb Academy, a pre-K-12 private school affiliated with the university. As the Lipscomb education dean, McQueen became a booster of the Common Core and often testified in its support — at the request of the Tennessee Education Department, according to this Nashville Public Radio story.

But shortly after taking her new job, she sent a letter to Lipscomb Academy’s parents who were worried that she would implement the Common Core standards at the private school. According to the Nashville Public Radio story, the letter said she has asked faculty to familiarize themselves with the Core standards but that this did not mean in any way that the school would adopt them. It quotes from the letter:
“I will continue to be part of the ongoing CCSS conversation. However, this should not be extrapolated to indicate or predict the adoption of CCSS at Lipscomb Academy.”


Asked by WPLN why Common Core wouldn’t be used at her school, McQueen referred back to her letter.
“We make decisions about what’s going to be best within the context of our community,” she said. “I would say that’s absolutely what we’re going to do now and for the future.”
The story also notes that most of Nashville’s private schools don’t follow the testing regime or the standards that are used in public schools, although this is not singular to Nashville. It is also true in the greater Washington area and everywhere else around the country. I recently published an open letter to Obama from Bertis Downs, a parent in Athens, Ga., who wrote in part:

The policies currently promoted by your Department of Education are actually hurting– not helping– schools like ours. It is clear we will reduce schools’ efficacy if public education remains fixated on tests that only measure limited concepts – tests that regularly relegate less advantaged children into the “bottom half” and limit their access to broader education.

Why does the law distill the interactions of our teachers and students over the course of a year into a high-stakes multiple choice test? Is this really a valid system of accountability for teachers, based so heavily on their students’ test scores? If so, why are so many public school parents, teachers and students pushing back against it? And why aren’t the private schools insisting on it?

Good questions.



I should have given more detail in my answer to BZ. So for those uninformed the common core was developed in response to race to Race to the Top. The Obama initiative to give taxpayer money to only those states (schools) that did his bidding.

Good article, nice that it references Obama and Gates, two democrats, or at least social liberals as Gates describes himself.

And to answer the question, "why aren’t the private schools insisting on it?"

The answer is because private schools have the ability to get rid of bad employees.



Edited by cwjga (03/31/14 06:55 AM)
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#1442449 --- 03/31/14 08:20 AM Re: When Standards Aren't Standardized [Re: cwjga]
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Originally Posted By: cwjga
Originally Posted By: twocats
standards are vital to the future of America and want to see them implemented in public schools everywhere
And to answer the question, "why aren’t the private schools insisting on it?"

The answer is because private schools have the ability to get rid of bad employees.



Originally Posted By: newsman38
Can a lawsuit by nine students topple teacher tenure? The nine student plaintiffs in the case – known as Vergara v. California - are challenging two main areas of state law: permanent employment and dismissal statutes the plaintiffs say make it difficult to get rid of bad teachers, and the seniority-based layoff system, which they say makes it hard to keep good, less-senior teachers during difficult times.


must be the 'teachers' do not want standards for themselves...

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#1442539 --- 03/31/14 03:23 PM Re: When Standards Aren't Standardized [Re: cwjga]
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"The answer is because private schools have the ability to get rid of bad employees. "

Surrrre...that's why all those right to work, non-union states adopted Common Core.
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#1442542 --- 03/31/14 03:53 PM Re: When Standards Aren't Standardized [Re: twocats]
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Originally Posted By: twocats
"The answer is because private schools have the ability to get rid of bad employees. "

Surrrre...that's why all those right to work, non-union states adopted Common Core.


No the states adopted common core to Satisfy King Obama and Duke Duncan and get the "Race to the Top" money.

I would bet that public schools are not insisting on it either.
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#1442923 --- 04/02/14 12:55 PM Re: When Standards Aren't Standardized [Re: cwjga]
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A quote from a teacher at a local district.

"What an AWESOME day! EVERY kid in my school was there today with a smile on their face. No "opting out", no crying, no whining, not ONE complaint...just Excitement to show NYS how GREAT and SMART they are!! We made today a celebration! Attitude is everything y'all! This Testing Fairy's Work is done!"

Looks like a school that made it about the kids and not about them.

Good for them.


Edited by cwjga (04/02/14 01:13 PM)
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#1443156 --- 04/03/14 07:28 PM Re: When Standards Aren't Standardized [Re: cwjga]
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Aaaaaaannnnd the Propaganda Fairy's work is done here.
Nice work.
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#1443180 --- 04/04/14 06:45 AM Re: When Standards Aren't Standardized [Re: twocats]
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Aaaaaaannnnd the Propaganda Fairy's work is done here.
Nice work.


Thank you.

It was nice to see that at least some involved in public education still put the children first. I am surprised though, the way everyone else was whining and crying about how terrible it all would be for the kids that any school could get all their kids through it and not one had a break down.
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#1443308 --- 04/05/14 03:45 AM Re: When Standards Aren't Standardized [Re: cwjga]
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Day 3, Grades 3-5.

Author: Anonymous, Administrator, Other | State: NY | Test: State test: Pearson | Date: April 3 at 11:53 am ET
An administrator of a suburban public school, I take seriously my responsibility to students and teachers. I try to greet each person that I encounter each morning with a smile, and a genuine curiosity about how they are doing. Today, though, it’s just too hard.

As I write this, third, fourth and fifth graders throughout the school and across the state are confronting an unfair ELA assessment. I just walked our hallways and peered into testing areas that are filled with row after row of eight, nine, ten, and a few eleven-year-olds flipping pages back and forth, annotating text, and building essays out of bullet points. More than a few are crying.

I’ve read the feedback that teachers across New York have offered these past two days of the Common Core aligned ELA exam. I have the same sympathy for them, and their students, as I do for our school’s own. Their experiences, combined with today’s mistreatment of students that children are suffering at the hands of misguided test makers, have moved me to speak out. I would be negligent if I didn’t.

Imagine a Little League coach putting a team of third-graders in a game against the local Varsity team. Surely, someone would take issue with that. How, then, can I not take issue with third-graders being tasked to read and respond to text about technical instruments with which most adults are unfamiliar?

Imagine asking a toddler to identify their motivation for, say, grabbing a fistful of cookie and crumbling it onto the floor. Surely, someone would take issue with that. How, then, can I not take issue with fifth-graders being tasked to read and respond to text about the cost-benefit analysis of tangible and intangible things as it relates to human behavior?

Day 3 of the Common Core NYS ELA is absurd. The third grade test includes an excerpt from a book that, according to Scholastic, is written at a Grade Level Equivalent of 5.2. Its Lexile Measure is 650L, and it’s categorized as a Level X Guided Reading selection. Yet, it appears on a test that has been written for third grade students.

Day 3 of the Common Core NYS ELA is incongruous with Common Core Learning Standards. The same third grade test asks students to identify how specific paragraphs support the organizational structure of a selected piece of literature. The Reading Standards for Literature in Grade 3, with respect to Craft and Structure, state that Grade 3 students should be able to: Refer to parts of stories, dramas, and poems when writing or speaking about a text, using terms such as chapter, scene, and stanza; describe how each successive part builds on earlier sections. It is not until Grade 5, according to The Reading Standards for Literature, that students should be able to: Explain how a series of chapters, scenes, or stanzas fits together to provide the overall structure of a particular story, drama, or poem.

Day 3 of the Common Core NYS ELA is ill-conceived. A short- answer question that appears on the Grade 4 exam calls upon students to explain why a specific piece of text is effectively written. Regardless of what the Reading Standards say, or don’t, about evaluating text, how in the world can a test be created around such an entirely subjective question?

An administrator of a suburban public school, I take seriously my responsibility to students and teachers. It seems to me that the most responsible thing that I could have done this morning would have been to excuse teachers and students from being bullied by an absurd, incongruous and ill-conceived test.
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#1443344 --- 04/05/14 10:04 AM Re: When Standards Aren't Standardized [Re: twocats]
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And yet

"What an AWESOME day! EVERY kid in my school was there today with a smile on their face. No "opting out", no crying, no whining, not ONE complaint...just Excitement to show NYS how GREAT and SMART they are!! We made today a celebration! Attitude is everything y'all! This Testing Fairy's Work is done!"
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#1443349 --- 04/05/14 10:29 AM Re: When Standards Aren't Standardized [Re: cwjga]
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#1443350 --- 04/05/14 10:40 AM Re: When Standards Aren't Standardized [Re: cwjga]
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#1443491 --- 04/06/14 09:16 AM Re: When Standards Aren't Standardized [Re: cwjga]
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Originally Posted By: cwjga


We agree on something. Mark it down. wink
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#1443496 --- 04/06/14 09:44 AM Re: When Standards Aren't Standardized [Re: cwjga]
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And yet

"What an AWESOME day! EVERY kid in my school was there today with a smile on their face. No "opting out", no crying, no whining, not ONE complaint...just Excitement to show NYS how GREAT and SMART they are!! We made today a celebration! Attitude is everything y'all! This Testing Fairy's Work is done!"


And yet we aren't listening to the students:

> Dear Time Out from Testing folks,
>
> My daughter Eliya, a seventh grader at MS 447 in Brooklyn, wrote the following poem on the back of her testing booklet yesterday. She liked it, copied it down on scrap paper, and would like to share it widely. Please feel free to use this in any capacity you’d like (with her name on it).
>
> Best wishes and thank you for all your hard work,
>
> Dohra Ahmad
>
> April used to be poetry month,
> Where we’d learn about rhythm and rhyme,
> But now that standardized tests have set in,
> They tell us we just don’t have time.
>
> There was ‘Poem in Your Pocket’ day,
> Where you share your unique voice,
> But now creativity’s gone away,
> Now it’s nothing but multiple choice.
>
> They say tests show how smart you are,
> And teach you all you know,
> But how does filling in circles,
> Help anyone learn and grow?
>
> In class, when we could be thinking,
> Learning how we can go far,
> We’re categorized by the grades we get,
> Like those numbers are all we are.
> - Eliya Ahmad, age 12 (written on back of ELA testing booklet, April 2, 2014)
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#1443499 --- 04/06/14 09:54 AM Re: When Standards Aren't Standardized [Re: twocats]
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Quote:
They say tests show how smart you are,
> And teach you all you know,


I sure hope the teachers aren't telling her that. They aren't intended to do either.

They're intended to show how knowledgeable you are, and whether you've learned what you were expected to have learned.
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#1443512 --- 04/06/14 11:39 AM Re: When Standards Aren't Standardized [Re: VM Smith]
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Quote:
They say tests show how smart you are,
> And teach you all you know,


I sure hope the teachers aren't telling her that. They aren't intended to do either.

They're intended to show how knowledgeable you are, and whether you've learned what you were expected to have learned.


It was written by a seventh grader who probably spends so much time on testing that she has come to equate that with school and learning.
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#1443536 --- 04/06/14 03:23 PM Re: When Standards Aren't Standardized [Re: twocats]
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They do indicate what you have or haven't learned in school, regarding some or all of the learning requirements. I just say that they don't tell you how smart or dumb you are, or teach anything, and aren't intended to. I also hope her parents didn't tell her that they do. I think that by 7th grade she should know the purpose of a test, and how to describe that purpose, without conflating things. She did say "they say".
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