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#1439942 --- 03/14/14 12:49 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: teedoff27]
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Why not call any of the idiots in Albany, or the executives in Madison and Oneida County and ask they WHY they agreed to it??!?? Any of the 3 could of voted NO and the deal would of been DEAD IN THE WATER!


and if you did not hand over your money to the 'tribe' then they would not be taking your land
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#1439943 --- 03/14/14 12:54 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: teedoff27]
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Turning Stone has to pay NYS 25% of their revenue with a minimum of 50 Million so the MORE Turning Stone makes the MORE NYS gets


and how much money has the oneida 'tribe' paid over the past 20 years to NYS from their casino,gas and cigs?

the 'deal' should prove to you that there was NEVER federal 'reservation'
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#1439944 --- 03/14/14 12:59 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: teedoff27]
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Turning Stone has to pay NYS 25% of their revenue with a minimum of 50 Million so the MORE Turning Stone makes the MORE NYS gets


that is only on a small portion of their business

and if they 'tribe' refuses to pay then what will you do?
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#1439947 --- 03/14/14 01:02 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Rich_Tallcot]
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Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
King Ray owed the counties over $110 Million.


does that include all the sales/excise taxes lost over the past 20 years?
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#1439948 --- 03/14/14 01:05 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Turning Stone has to pay NYS 25% of their revenue with a minimum of 50 Million so the MORE Turning Stone makes the MORE NYS gets


and how much money has the oneida 'tribe' paid over the past 20 years to NYS from their casino,gas and cigs?

the 'deal' should prove to you that there was NEVER federal 'reservation'


I have never said they had a federal reservation so what's your point???
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#1439949 --- 03/14/14 01:07 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: teedoff27]
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Originally Posted By: bluezone
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Turning Stone has to pay NYS 25% of their revenue with a minimum of 50 Million so the MORE Turning Stone makes the MORE NYS gets

and how much money has the oneida 'tribe' paid over the past 20 years to NYS from their casino,gas and cigs?
the 'deal' should prove to you that there was NEVER federal 'reservation'

I have never said they had a federal reservation so what's your point???


so tell us how much money has the oneida 'tribe' paid over the past 20 years to NYS from their casino,gas and cigs?

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#1439950 --- 03/14/14 01:08 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Rich_Tallcot
King Ray owed the counties over $110 Million.


does that include all the sales/excise taxes lost over the past 20 years?


If NYS didn't have insane taxes people would look for an affordable alternative. Like I have said 1000 times before. The state's that don't have insane taxes don't have natives "stealing their business"!!
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#1439951 --- 03/14/14 01:11 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Why not call any of the idiots in Albany, or the executives in Madison and Oneida County and ask they WHY they agreed to it??!?? Any of the 3 could of voted NO and the deal would of been DEAD IN THE WATER!


and if you did not hand over your money to the 'tribe' then they would not be taking your land



So what land of mine are they taking??? No worries Bluezone your welfare benefits and trailer park is safe too
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#1439952 --- 03/14/14 01:11 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: teedoff27]
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Well considering over 98% of the tribe and their businesses are in ONEIDA COUNTY, I am sure the 11 million is more than enough to cover any lost taxes, lawsuits, courts, and lawyer fees.

so if TS sees around $500 million each year and the cig and gas makes around another $200 million per year do you think $11 million is the 'tribes' fair share to the county or state?

your figures you pull out of the air make me giggle.


so you tell us about how much you think ts makes a year and about how much per year is gained by the gas/cigs


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#1439953 --- 03/14/14 01:16 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Just think Bluzone.... With this deal Prince Andrew has 50 million more a year to give you and your family more welfare benefits.....you might even get a school clothes benefit again too. I am sure Sheldon Silver has that 50 million spent already!
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#1439954 --- 03/14/14 01:18 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Well considering over 98% of the tribe and their businesses are in ONEIDA COUNTY, I am sure the 11 million is more than enough to cover any lost taxes, lawsuits, courts, and lawyer fees.

so if TS sees around $500 million each year and the cig and gas makes around another $200 million per year do you think $11 million is the 'tribes' fair share to the county or state?

your figures you pull out of the air make me giggle.


so you tell us about how much you think ts makes a year and about how much per year is gained by the gas/cigs




You're the one quoting figures SHOW ME YOUR *source*
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#1439955 --- 03/14/14 01:19 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: teedoff27]
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
If NYS didn't have insane taxes people would look for an affordable alternative. Like I have said 1000 times before. The state's that don't have insane taxes don't have natives "stealing their business"!!


Originally Posted By: teedoff27
I have never said they had a federal reservation so what's your point???


then all laws and taxes apply
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#1439956 --- 03/14/14 01:21 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Also if TS is making 500 million/year that means there 25% cut to NY state would be 125 million so like I said..... STAYE YOUR SOURCE!!!
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#1439957 --- 03/14/14 01:23 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: teedoff27
If NYS didn't have insane taxes people would look for an affordable alternative. Like I have said 1000 times before. The state's that don't have insane taxes don't have natives "stealing their business"!!


Originally Posted By: teedoff27
I have never said they had a federal reservation so what's your point???


then all laws and taxes apply


Not anymore!!!!! TS and their 25k acres is now TAX FREE!!!!
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#1439958 --- 03/14/14 01:24 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: teedoff27]
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
I like how you always say they almost lost.


Originally Posted By: teedoff27
I have never said they had a federal reservation


you have just proven why the oneida 'tribe' should not have been able to keep the profits from the cig/gas and casino
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#1439959 --- 03/14/14 01:26 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: teedoff27]
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: teedoff27
I have never said they had a federal reservation so what's your point???

then all laws and taxes apply

Not anymore!!!!! TS and their 25k acres is now TAX FREE!!!!

'not anymore'
you just proved that ts was illegal for 20 years
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#1439960 --- 03/14/14 01:29 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: teedoff27]
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
TS and their 25k acres is now TAX FREE!!!!


and then they will be buying your land with YOUR money

LOL
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#1439961 --- 03/14/14 01:32 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: teedoff27]
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Not anymore!!!!! TS and their 25k acres is now TAX FREE!!!!


the nearly one million soldiers (and families) that sacrificed their lives to protect this land have pity for you
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#1439962 --- 03/14/14 01:36 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: teedoff27]
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
Also if TS is making 500 million/year that means there 25% cut to NY state would be 125 million


the 25% is only on a small portion of the ts business
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#1439964 --- 03/14/14 01:40 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: teedoff27
I have never said they had a federal reservation


looks like you proved why the 'tribe' should not have been able to operate off their 32 acre 'reservation' without following NYS law and taxes
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