FingerLakes1.com Forums
Page 3 of 3 < 1 2 3
Topic Options
#1463425 --- 11/26/14 05:09 PM Re: Seneca County Farmer goes Organic, No Gmo [Re: MissingArty]
voice Offline
Member

Registered: 10/04/14
Posts: 179
Organic farming is the biggest ripoff to consumers there is!

Top
FingerLakes1.com
#1463431 --- 11/27/14 12:27 PM Re: Seneca County Farmer goes Organic, No Gmo [Re: MissingArty]
RigaMortis Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 07/11/12
Posts: 517
Loc: Seneca Falls
http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-ani...-safe-livestock


Studies have been done and repeated, there is no harm using GMO in food, the cites are sourced in the article. Anyone with any scientific knowledge could tell you when something is "organic" is to possess carbon atoms, which all living things do. Thus everything is already organic. It is a means to up the price and make these self satisfying hippies feel better about their lives and gives them another reason to complain about something.

I find it really hilarious that you people have the power of the internet at your disposal and still spew garbage out without any research.
_________________________
SUPER TROLLING

Top
#1463432 --- 11/27/14 12:34 PM Re: Seneca County Farmer goes Organic, No Gmo [Re: MissingArty]
RigaMortis Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 07/11/12
Posts: 517
Loc: Seneca Falls
BTW VM, citing sources from a .org website isn't really sourcing or having valid evidence. An ORGANIZATION can write whatever they believe on their websites, and poor schmucks like you eat it up and regurgitate it. Try locating an academic journal with scientists and credible sources.

Better yet, go to the Flat Earth Society site, it's .org, has a lot of useful information for you that you will obviously find to be 100% true.
_________________________
SUPER TROLLING

Top
#1463438 --- 11/28/14 10:15 AM Re: Seneca County Farmer goes Organic, No Gmo [Re: RigaMortis]
Timbo Offline
Silver Member

Registered: 07/18/12
Posts: 12741
Loc: CNY
Originally Posted By: RigaMortis
http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-ani...-safe-livestock


Studies have been done and repeated, there is no harm using GMO in food, the cites are sourced in the article. Anyone with any scientific knowledge could tell you when something is "organic" is to possess carbon atoms, which all living things do. Thus everything is already organic. It is a means to up the price and make these self satisfying hippies feel better about their lives and gives them another reason to complain about something.

I find it really hilarious that you people have the power of the internet at your disposal and still spew garbage out without any research.

Funnier yet, is to watch someone utterly humiliate themselves by publicly advertising their abject ignorance of and total confusion between such terms or subject matter as organic, natural, toxicity, carbon atoms, chemicals, living organisms, research and oh, yeah... science.

I'd say that the "Hippies" whom you refer to, have every right to be self satisfied. Unlike you, they appear to have taken the time to educate themselves on, at the very least, their definitions and striking distinctions. whistle

What you are describing, is "organic chemistry". An entirely different definition and subject than "organic food".

Also... not ALL chemical compounds are made up of carbon atoms. You are dead wrong about virtually every point you make. The fact that something is natural, organic, synthetic, reengineered, etc., makes it neither safe nor unsafe. PERIOD. To suggest (as you clearly do) that something has to be living to be organic, is patently false.

Lastly, there has never been a scientific determination that GMO foods are harmless. Only that that majority have found no significant dangers. There ARE however, several credible studies that strongly indicate potentially far reaching and catastrophic down-range side effects.

No single study is definitive, nor are they comprehensive. There is still much that is unknown on the subject.

Next time, before you go casting stones over someone's alleged use of pseudoscientific arguments, you should make darned sure that you aren't doing exactly the same thing, and that your own source materials hold up to proper scientific scrutiny. That article you link to, is a prime example of political cheerleading by way of "yellow scientific journalism".

http://chemwiki.ucdavis.edu/Organic_Chemistry/Case_Studies/What_is_Organic%3F#Organic_Foods
_________________________
Everyone's entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts.

Top
#1463667 --- 12/03/14 06:09 PM Re: Seneca County Farmer goes Organic, No Gmo [Re: MissingArty]
MissingArty Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 12/18/11
Posts: 1964
Loc: Waterloo, NY
_________________________
Arty turns 8 this summer.

Top
#1463829 --- 12/08/14 09:36 AM Re: Seneca County Farmer goes Organic, No Gmo [Re: MissingArty]
MissingArty Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 12/18/11
Posts: 1964
Loc: Waterloo, NY
Although improved over the first draft, the FDA’s proposed food safety rules are still onerous enough that they could jeopardize the existence of many of our safest, local organic farms.

Tell the FDA that small farms are not food processing “facilities” necessitating expensive oversight and testing. (It could cost a family farm over $12,000 a year to comply!) Irrigation water should not have to meet the same safety standards as a community swimming pool. And it should be clear that older farmers, without Internet access, or the Amish, can submit reports on paper rather than the web.

At a minimum, please join farmers and their urban-allies by signing on to the letter below. Additionally, we especially encourage fresh market vegetable farmers to also, very carefully, read the full action alert and submit your individual comments, based on your own farming experience, to the FDA. Your livelihoods are at stake.


http://app.streamsend.com/s/1/9pOA/Bsu6Vqi/is3mp
_________________________
Arty turns 8 this summer.

Top
#1463852 --- 12/08/14 08:48 PM Re: Seneca County Farmer goes Organic, No Gmo [Re: voice]
MissingArty Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 12/18/11
Posts: 1964
Loc: Waterloo, NY
Originally Posted By: voice
Organic farming is the biggest ripoff to consumers there is!


http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/10/06/dr-huber-gmo-foods.aspx

You must not care about nature either.

Strum wrote.

"In a metaphysical sense, "society" is responsible for this country's environmental tragedy. But most Americans don't even know what the EPA does, much less have an understanding of "negligible risk." The responsibility for environmental poisonings lies on the shoulders of very few people in this country. Americans never approved biocides, risk assessment or the fraudulent science behind "regulation."

Industry has captured the EPA though the offices of Congress and the White House. That's why the EPA is misusing science for legitimizing the use of pesticides and, often, the poisoning of innocents. The American people and, especially, environmental organizations, must wake-up to this tragic reality."

http://www.truth-out.org/speakout/item/27840-the-poisoning-of-melyce


Edited by MissingArty (12/08/14 08:57 PM)
_________________________
Arty turns 8 this summer.

Top
#1463880 --- 12/10/14 04:38 PM Re: Seneca County Farmer goes Organic, No Gmo [Re: MissingArty]
MissingArty Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 12/18/11
Posts: 1964
Loc: Waterloo, NY
Marked Deterioration of Public Health Parallels Increase in GM Crops and Glyphosate Use, US Government Data Show

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/Deterioration_of_Public_Health.php
_________________________
Arty turns 8 this summer.

Top
#1463965 --- 12/16/14 12:40 AM Re: Seneca County Farmer goes Organic, No Gmo [Re: MissingArty]
MissingArty Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 12/18/11
Posts: 1964
Loc: Waterloo, NY
A must read for gluten/celiac folks.

"As a result, humans exposed to glyphosate through use of Roundup in their community or through ingestion of its residues on industrialized food products become even more vulnerable to the damaging effects of other chemicals and environmental toxins they encounter!

What’s worse is that the negative impact of glyphosate exposure is slow and insidious over months and years as inflammation gradually gains a foothold in the cellular systems of the body."

- See more at: http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/r...h.36UhZMLW.dpuf
_________________________
Arty turns 8 this summer.

Top
#1464210 --- 12/26/14 11:05 PM Re: Seneca County Farmer goes Organic, No Gmo [Re: MissingArty]
MissingArty Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 12/18/11
Posts: 1964
Loc: Waterloo, NY



A Walk for GMO Labeling

Plan to Walk across America to Include Dialogue on Genetically Modified Organisms

On January 5, Santa Barbara resident Taylor Lancaster, 31, will go on a walk — a very long one. Beginning at Santa Monica beach, the Los Angeles–born Lancaster, who currently works at Yoga Soup as a desk yogi, intends to continue walking eastward, through the major cities of the desert, upward through the plains, and finally ending in Manhattan, in a transcontinental walk intended to cultivate discussions on genetically modified organisms (GMO).

http://www.independent.com/news/2014/dec/25/walk-gmo-labeling/
_________________________
Arty turns 8 this summer.

Top
#1464214 --- 12/26/14 11:12 PM Re: Seneca County Farmer goes Organic, No Gmo [Re: MissingArty]
MissingArty Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 12/18/11
Posts: 1964
Loc: Waterloo, NY
David Suzuki: An elder's vision for our sustainable future

At 74, and coming the end of his scientific and broadcasting career, David Suzuki mused on the notion: "If I had one last lecture to give, what would I say?" The result is a very special talk full of humour, warmth, insight and passion.

At a packed house at the Perth Convention Centre, Suzuki voiced his long-time frustration at the obsession for economic growth at the sacrifice of nature, while urging us all to strive for a sustainable future.

The event was hosted by the Perth International Arts Festival and UWA Extension. He is introduced by Josh Byrne, who is a host on ABC Television's "Gardening Australia".

David Suzuki was born in Vancouver, Canada in 1936. He has had a long and prolific career as a scientist, environmentalist, broadcaster and author. His scientific field is genetics, but he is best known for his television and radio programs that examine and explain the natural sciences, including "The Secret of Life" and "A Planet for the Taking."

He is the co-founder and chair of the David Suzuki Foundation, which was established in 1989 to advocate and educate people about environmental conservation, sustainable ecology and climate change.

Suzuki has won many awards for his work including the 2009 Honorary "Right Livelihood Award." He has written over 48 books, his latest being "The Legacy: An Elder's Vision for Our Sustainable Future", on which the lecture he is delivering is based.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2b7SpLpN5A&list=LLpPMl2FQ6QaT9iWdjossy6Q&index=12
_________________________
Arty turns 8 this summer.

Top
#1464215 --- 12/26/14 11:30 PM Re: Seneca County Farmer goes Organic, No Gmo [Re: MissingArty]
MissingArty Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 12/18/11
Posts: 1964
Loc: Waterloo, NY
Americans have for far too long been used as guinea pigs by the biotechnology industry - consuming far more GMO containing food than any other country, whether we want to or not.

What does it mean to insert a wheat gene into a chestnut tree? The only really honest answer to that question is that we really do not know.

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/28...lk-in-the-woods
_________________________
Arty turns 8 this summer.

Top
#1464398 --- 01/02/15 09:03 PM Re: Seneca County Farmer goes Organic, No Gmo [Re: MissingArty]
MissingArty Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 12/18/11
Posts: 1964
Loc: Waterloo, NY
Kathleen Hallal, one of the founding members of Moms Across America, interviews Dr Don Huber, a whistle blower in the food world. It's in four parts and if you can't take the time to watch all four, at least watch Part 3 and 4.

Dr. Huber is Professor Emeritus of Plant Pathology at Purdue University, a land grant institution, and has been studying plants for 55 years. He has received various awards for his scientific accomplishments and contributions to government. He was Cereal Pathologist at the University of Idaho for 8 years before joining the Department of Botany & Plant Pathology at Purdue University in 1971. His agricultural research the past 50 years has focused on the epidemiology and control of soil borne plant pathogens with emphasis on microbial ecology, cultural and biological controls, and physiology of host parasite relationships. He’s in his 80s, and he is also a father, a grandfather and has had a 41-year military career as a retired Colonel.

Part 1
Time Code List
1:50 Thank you for meeting with me
3:05 Dr. Huber's background
4:45 What are GMOs?
5:49 Is it true that GMOs are created using viruses and bacteria?
8:10 Are any of those viruses or bacteria still active when we eat the food?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlztFOWxdqo

Part 2
Question: How many ways are glyphosate containing herbicides used on crops that end up in our food supply?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7U2rEYHbFA

Part 3
Time Code List
0:01 Which crops exactly would be sprayed with glyphosate that mothers would have to look out for in the super market?
2:14 I was completely unaware that GMOs were grown in home gardens. I thought it was strictly for industrial agricultural production. Don't they sell BT corn at Walmart?
2:46 Please tell us what you are being told about the health of farm workers exposed to glyphosate. Has the application rate of glyphosate changed since 1996?
4:10 Why did the EPA raise the residue limits? Endocrine disruption (EDCs)?
5:26 Have GMOs been proven safe by the FDA?
7:03 What do scientists say about GMOs in the world community consensus?
8:35 Recap - FDA and safety, FDA scientists studies.

(Note that Dr. Huber said animals won't eat gmo corn but, remember, the meat you are buying in your grocery store is from animals that are forced to eat this gmo corn. I am greatful for Autumn's Harvest Farm, right here in Seneca County for going organic, non gmo.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFO_TvWTNy8

Part 4
Super bugs and super weeds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWQodcnkYD0&list=PLWlbMkC0m_Fa8vSUIsHJV-BrYf9xrNYpj&index=29
_________________________
Arty turns 8 this summer.

Top
#1464442 --- 01/04/15 03:16 PM Re: Seneca County Farmer goes Organic, No Gmo [Re: MissingArty]
MissingArty Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 12/18/11
Posts: 1964
Loc: Waterloo, NY
Computer Bots against Vaccines
March 28, 2014 at 8:13am
From Jeff Hays, the producer of BOUGHT, the movie:

"She said he went on, “So we created a social media bot that searches conversation strings in all social media for these conversations...the bot then posts the fact that they are false and links them to the “real” data showing that vaccines are safe and don’t cause autism. So this is just one example of how we can use Big Data and bots to affect social change for good.”"

"The battle lines have been drawn. Our goal is to sidestep the battle, and force a discussion on 3 key issues of our day:

&#9726;Big Pharma, its reach and effect on our health,

&#9726;The truth about vaccine "safety and efficacy", and

&#9726;The effect of GMOs on our health and our world."

https://www.facebook.com/notes/dr-tenpen...151953988518344
_________________________
Arty turns 8 this summer.

Top
#1464579 --- 01/08/15 02:36 AM Re: Seneca County Farmer goes Organic, No Gmo [Re: MissingArty]
MissingArty Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 12/18/11
Posts: 1964
Loc: Waterloo, NY
This article was posted TODAY by the Institute of Science in Society. The study finds that gmos are harmful to health.

They advise to take immediate action to BAN GMOs from homes and local communities.

"To conclude

GMOs are once again found to be deleterious for health in a feeding trial that last no longer than 90 days. And within that time, the most widespread piece of transgenic DNA found in the GM diet, the CaMV 35S promoter, was found transferred horizontally into the animals’ tissues at high frequencies. The CaMV 35S promoter is not the only hazardous piece of transgenic DNA, there are similar aggressive promoters designed to make genes express out of context, as well as genes coding for antibiotics and other dangerous functions, together with numerous recombination hotspots that enhance horizontal gene transfer; all of which contribute to making all GMOs unsafe. That is indeed the conclusion from research carried out by scientists independent of the industry up to now, which fully corroborates what farmers have been witnessing in their livestock and doctors in their patients for years [14]. People need to take immediate action to ban GMOs from their own home and local communities. Governments should recall all GMOs from the market. And companies and regulators should face prosecution for causing damages to health and criminal negligence."

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/CaMV_35S_Promoter_in_GM_Feed_that_Sickened_Rats.php#.VK2TuoN2rtY.facebook
_________________________
Arty turns 8 this summer.

Top
#1464580 --- 01/08/15 02:43 AM Re: Seneca County Farmer goes Organic, No Gmo [Re: MissingArty]
MissingArty Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 12/18/11
Posts: 1964
Loc: Waterloo, NY
Vote with your wallet

Buycott helps you to organize your everyday consumer spending so you can fund causes you support and avoid funding those you disagree with.

http://www.buycott.com/


The non gmo shopping guide from the Institute for Responsible Technology (also the producer of the documentary "Genetic Roulette"):

http://www.nongmoshoppingguide.com/


Genetic Roulette 17 minute trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAMlir8oprw


Whats On My Food Database? Pesticides

http://www.whatsonmyfood.org/index.jsp





_________________________
Arty turns 8 this summer.

Top
#1464582 --- 01/08/15 02:48 AM Re: Seneca County Farmer goes Organic, No Gmo [Re: MissingArty]
MissingArty Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 12/18/11
Posts: 1964
Loc: Waterloo, NY
_________________________
Arty turns 8 this summer.

Top
#1465731 --- 02/07/15 12:09 PM Re: Seneca County Farmer goes Organic, No Gmo [Re: MissingArty]
MissingArty Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 12/18/11
Posts: 1964
Loc: Waterloo, NY
An American mom took on Monsanto.

Full Account of Monsanto Shareholder Meeting Jan 30, 2015

Posted by Zen Honeycutt · February 01, 2015

I am here to say on behalf of struggling parents, STOP POISONING our children! Glyphosate—a patented antibiotic—has been detected in the air, water, food, our children’s urine, our breast milk, Fruit Loops and in nutrients fed to children with cancer, at levels THOUSANDS of times higher than what has been shown to destroy GUT BACTERIA—where 70% of the immune system lies.

Shareholder’s must know that: Without proper gut bacteria our bodies cannot make Tryptophan, Melatonin or Serotonin. Serotonin regulates insulin—and therefore diabetes, which is on course to bankrupt US Healthcare in 13 years.

Without serotonin and melatonin, our bodies cannot prevent insomnia, depression, anxiety, and bipolar disorder. 57.7 million American have mental illness today.

When the gut bacteria is destroyed, food particles and pathogens escape through the intestines, causing allergies and autoimmune diseases. Allergy ER visits have increased 265% since GMOs.

http://www.momsacrossamerica.com/full_account_of_monsanto_shareholder_meeting
_________________________
Arty turns 8 this summer.

Top
#1481437 --- 02/05/16 02:35 PM Re: Seneca County Farmer goes Organic, No Gmo [Re: MissingArty]
MissingArty Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 12/18/11
Posts: 1964
Loc: Waterloo, NY
For current information see,

"Health & Wellness" forum,

"State of the Science of the Health Risks of GMO Food."
_________________________
Arty turns 8 this summer.

Top
Page 3 of 3 < 1 2 3