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#1343040 --- 05/07/12 01:05 PM
Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes
[Re: Ayuveda]
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Court sides with Sherrill Supreme Court justices rule 8-1 Oneida Nation must pay tax to city Wed, Mar 30, 2005 R. PATRICK CORBETT Observer-Dispatch
The Oneida Indian Nation must pay taxes on its property in the city of Sherrill and potentially on all land it has bought outside of its 32-acre reservation in Madison County, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Tuesday . In an 8-1 decision, the court ruled that the New York Oneidas cannot disrupt two centuries of local development by refusing to pay local taxes on a gas station and T-shirt factory it owns in Sherrill in Oneida County. New York City lawyer Ira Sacks, who pleaded Sherrill's case pro bono, said, "We were very pleased. The Supreme Court agreed with the principal argument that after 200 years ... the Oneida Indian Nation can't pick and choose places to buy and take it out of local jurisdiction." The justices also remarked on the "distinctly non-Indian character of the area and its inhabitants," because most Oneida Indians moved out of the area about 150 years ago.
rescind the treaty as the tribe is in violation Sovereign Nations domestic dependent your words without all the funding from the local, county, state and federal government the 'tribes' would fail to exist how much money did the tribe spend last year for their military protection? ZERO...........
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#1343245 --- 05/08/12 01:24 PM
Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes
[Re: Ayuveda]
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I'm a MEMBER of a sovereign nation The prospects of privately-owned militias defending interest in a free-market 'Utopia' here is a nightmare.
No Thanks.
The Perfect Free Market: Somalia
By Bob Cavnar July 3, 2010
I've often wondered if there is an example of unrestrained free markets in the world that we could look to for an idea of exactly what it would look like. Certainly, the early days of our nation give an inkling, but we have always had a relatively strong central government, and an historic culture of common purpose. But that is not what free market libertarians advocate; they advocate every one for themselves; profit built into every activity including healthcare, utilities, mail delivery, even defense. So. Where can we seek an example of unrestrained free markets and their effects?
I found the answer Thursday while driving from Boston to Vermont for the 4th of July holiday. We were listening to an interview on Fresh Air, a great NPR program, with guest Jeffrey Gettleman, bureau chief for the New York Times in East Africa. Gettleman was talking about how African nations have fallen into anarchy, where governments have completely collapsed. His prime example was Somalia, where there hasn't been a central government for over 20 years. A quagmire of warlords, religious fanatics, and criminals, he described Somalia as "the most dangerous place in the world" with no central government, no services, no electricity, no law enforcement, no green zone for safety. He described the country as a culture based on individual trust bought with money. Personal relationships are key, and power is kept through violence and wealth.
Gettleman says that when you arrive at the airport in Mogadishu, you fill out a form with your name, address, and caliber of weapon you carry. For electricity, neighbors must band together to buy a generator, wire it to their homes, fuel it, and then defend it from being stolen. Businessmen sell their own stamps for private mail delivery. There is no central government, no law enforcement, no public utilities. The streets are ruled by gangs, and territory is protected with bullets. Everyone freely exercises their right to bear arms. Every day, all day. It is the perfect free market, a Libertarian's or Tea Partier's Utopia. And, it is hopeless.
somalia and the reservation system in the USA are the same odd that you would support the reservation system in the USA but not somalia where is your utopia? insert foot in mouth...
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