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#1437365 --- 02/21/14 09:24 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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my culture and my heritage, I will fight you to my last dying breath because without those things, I am nothing.

so why have you lost your culture?

Because that is virtually the invariable outcome of being conquered.

are you breathing?

Are you suffering a stroke?
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#1437367 --- 02/21/14 09:26 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Leave them alone, if you don't like their policies, politics, taxes, liberties and so on, then get off their land


so tell us why you refuse to give the land back to the 'tribes'?
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#1437368 --- 02/21/14 09:26 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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It is complicated because the persecution of the Indian peoples still continues today If you try to rob my property, my family, my culture and my heritage, I will fight you to my last dying breath
they chose to side with the british. when will you 'compensate' the british?
What are you talking about??? They had virtually no other choice. The British were merely screwing them slightly less (at the time).
if the british won then the 'tribes' would be under british rule

Is there a point to be made somewhere, Lady Obvious?
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#1437369 --- 02/21/14 09:28 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Leave them alone, if you don't like their policies, politics, taxes, liberties and so on, then get off their land
so tell us why you refuse to give the land back to the 'tribes'?

Soooo many ignorant assumptions on you're part. cool
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#1437370 --- 02/21/14 09:29 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
It is complicated because the persecution of the Indian peoples still continues today If you try to rob my property, my family, my culture and my heritage, I will fight you to my last dying breath
they chose to side with the british. when will you 'compensate' the british?
What are you talking about??? They had virtually no other choice. The British were merely screwing them slightly less (at the time).
if the british won then the 'tribes' would be under british rule

Is there a point to be made somewhere, Lady Obvious?


the 'tribe' would not have the land today
would you prefer to be under british rule today?
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#1437371 --- 02/21/14 09:31 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
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Leave them alone, if you don't like their policies, politics, taxes, liberties and so on, then get off their land
so tell us why you refuse to give the land back to the 'tribes'?

Soooo many ignorant assumptions on you're part. cool


you have only volunteered a few hours of your time

further proof that you do not owe them your land
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#1437396 --- 02/21/14 10:30 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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if the british won then the 'tribes' would be under british rule
Is there a point to be made somewhere, Lady Obvious?
the 'tribe' would not have the land today

How can you be sure?
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#1437398 --- 02/21/14 10:34 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
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Leave them alone, if you don't like their policies, politics, taxes, liberties and so on, then get off their land
so tell us why you refuse to give the land back to the 'tribes'?
Soooo many ignorant assumptions on you're part. cool
you have only volunteered a few hours of your time

further proof that you do not owe them your land

If by a few, you mean several hundred, then sure.

And more next week.
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#1437402 --- 02/21/14 10:43 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: bluezone
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It is complicated because the persecution of the Indian peoples still continues today If you try to rob my property, my family, my culture and my heritage, I will fight you to my last dying breath
they chose to side with the british. when will you 'compensate' the british?
What are you talking about??? They had virtually no other choice. The British were merely screwing them slightly less (at the time).
if the british won then the 'tribes' would be under british rule
Good point. The Indians were never going to rule North America again. The superior technology of the European countries would ensure that.
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#1437408 --- 02/21/14 10:54 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: kyle585]
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So, might makes right?

OK, since Native Americans generally have the might of the Federal Government on their sides and the buying power to add to this power. They have the treaties and the backing. It looks as if they win. When are White people going to learn that it's a done deal and accept the fact that THEY lost. I mean, how long's it been fer cryin' out loud? grin

That's basically the same argument that you're trying to push.
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#1437414 --- 02/21/14 12:05 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Timbo]
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So, might makes right?

OK, since Native Americans generally have the might of the Federal Government on their sides and the buying power to add to this power. They have the treaties and the backing. It looks as if they win. When are White people going to learn that it's a done deal and accept the fact that THEY lost. I mean, how long's it been fer cryin' out loud? grin

That's basically the same argument that you're trying to push.
So tell me what happens with this done deal. Do they take over all of the USA? If not, how much of it? I don't understand what a win means for them? Will they become the superior power in the USA and the rest of us their servants?
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#1437421 --- 02/21/14 12:25 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: kyle585]
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<banging my head on the desk>
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#1437430 --- 02/21/14 12:51 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Timbo]
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<banging my head on the desk>
You are amazing. You post voluminous stuff and yet you can't answer a simple question. If they tribes ask for much more, the rest of us will say are they kidding? And that will end it.
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#1437438 --- 02/21/14 01:06 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: kyle585]
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<banging my head on the desk>
You are amazing. You post voluminous stuff and yet you can't answer a simple question. If they tribes ask for much more, the rest of us will say are they kidding? And that will end it.

What's your question?

You still haven't answered my question(s).
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#1437441 --- 02/21/14 01:10 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
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<banging my head on the desk>
You are amazing. You post voluminous stuff and yet you can't answer a simple question. If they tribes ask for much more, the rest of us will say are they kidding? And that will end it.
What's the question?
OMG. here it is again.

Originally Posted By: kyle585
So tell me what happens with this done deal. Do they take over all of the USA? If not, how much of it? I don't understand what a win means for them? Will they become the superior power in the USA and the rest of us their servants?
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#1437443 --- 02/21/14 01:15 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: kyle585]
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I was making a rhetorical point to draw attention to the ridiculous nature of your earlier comment.

You're inventing situations that haven't even occurred. I'm not going to speculate on some fantasy that doesn't exist. It's pointless. If you don't like that answer, tough beans. I deal in facts, not what-ifs.

The second that it starts raining elephants, I'll ponder the ramifications, but not a moment before.


Edited by Timbo (02/21/14 01:23 PM)
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#1437446 --- 02/21/14 01:20 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Timbo]
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I was making a rhetorical point to draw attention to the ridiculous nature of your earlier comment.

You're inventing situations that haven't even occurred. I'm not going to speculate on some fantasy that doesn't exist. It's pointless.

If you don't like that answer, tough beans. I deal in facts, not what-ifs.
You said it looks like they are going to win. I asked what happens if they win. If you can't at least give me your opinion of what you think will happen, further discussion with you is a waste of time.
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#1437448 --- 02/21/14 01:22 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: kyle585]
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That's what I'm saying. It's definitely a waste of my time.

You're free to do with yours, whatever you wish.

I'm not a child. I don't engage in games of make believe (unless it's with my wife).
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#1437450 --- 02/21/14 01:27 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: kyle585]
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I was making a rhetorical point to draw attention to the ridiculous nature of your earlier comment.

You're inventing situations that haven't even occurred. I'm not going to speculate on some fantasy that doesn't exist. It's pointless.

If you don't like that answer, tough beans. I deal in facts, not what-ifs.
You said it looks like they are going to win. I asked what happens if they win. If you can't at least give me your opinion of what you think will happen, further discussion with you is a waste of time.

You really should look up the definition of the word 'rhetorical'. You wouldn't have needed to reply if you understood the meaning.
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#1437452 --- 02/21/14 01:29 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: kyle585]
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I'm still waiting for your answers to my questions.
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