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#1435930 --- 02/10/14 09:03 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: kyle585]
Teonan Offline
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Teonan
Originally Posted By: bluezone
Originally Posted By: Teonan
Settler-mentality.
are your still bothered that the british turned their backs on you?
Naw. More bothered that your 'settler ancestors' weren't killed in higher numbers.
Wow. Are you saying that you wanted England to have won the Revolutionary War and the USA never came into existence? Wow.


It's known as 'dark humor' Kyle. Spare your conjecture.
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#1435933 --- 02/10/14 09:07 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
You don't speak for the Natives, yada, yada.

Yeah, you'll have to excuse me for not blowing out of may @ss, that which I can't speak about with a fair amount of certainty.

You're obviously trying to force ideologocial concessions from T and me, and then wind up getting all huffy when we won't be cornered into complying with your demands to fall in line.

I (we?) expect better of you.
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#1435935 --- 02/10/14 09:11 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: Teonan
More bothered that your 'settler ancestors' weren't killed in higher numbers.


and what was the cause of that?
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#1435940 --- 02/10/14 09:21 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
You said that was too hard a question to answer.

I didn't say it was too hard to answer.

I'm saying that broadly sweeping questions based mostly on assumptions cannot be meaningfully answered.

Your overpowering urge to "fill in the blanks" is causing you to detour from logical and factual considerations. Unfortunately, you seem unwilling to except facts that don't follow your preconceptions. Until that changes, I fear that you'll never acquire the answers you seek.
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#1435946 --- 02/10/14 09:29 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Teonan]
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Originally Posted By: Teonan

More bothered that your 'settler ancestors' weren't killed in higher numbers.

Go ahead fool.


call the queen she will look after your needs for the next 200+ years...

or have you tried that?



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#1435967 --- 02/10/14 12:07 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Teonan]
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Originally Posted By: Teonan
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Teonan
Originally Posted By: bluezone
[quote=Teonan]Settler-mentality.
are your still bothered that the british turned their backs on you?
Naw. More bothered that your 'settler ancestors' weren't killed in higher numbers.
Wow. Are you saying that you wanted England to have won the Revolutionary War and the USA never came into existence? Wow.

Originally Posted By: Teonan

It's known as 'dark humor' Kyle. Spare your conjecture.
I don't see any humor, dark or light, in the Indian situation. I ask a serious question trying to understand your what the heck you are talking and you are unable to answer me. And you wonder why I get frustrated with your posts.
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#1435968 --- 02/10/14 12:10 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: kyle585]
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The "Indian situation"... really?
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#1435970 --- 02/10/14 12:12 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Your overpowering urge to "fill in the blanks" is causing you to detour from logical and factual considerations.
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Filling in the blanks makes a whole lot of sense to me.
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Unfortunately, you seem unwilling to except facts that don't follow your preconceptions. Until that changes, I fear that you'll never acquire the answers you seek.
I have seen no facts yet that disagree with my original thought on this matter.
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#1435971 --- 02/10/14 12:13 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
The "Indian situation"... really?
What do you call it?
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#1435998 --- 02/10/14 06:09 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: kyle585]
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Not that. shocked

Anybody else want to help Kyle with his Emily Post?
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#1436000 --- 02/10/14 06:18 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Your overpowering urge to "fill in the blanks" is causing you to detour from logical and factual considerations.
Originally Posted By: kyle585
Filling in the blanks makes a whole lot of sense to me.
Originally Posted By: Timbo
Unfortunately, you seem unwilling to except facts that don't follow your preconceptions. Until that changes, I fear that you'll never acquire the answers you seek.
I have seen no facts yet that disagree with my original thought on this matter.

Then why all the snark-laiden responses?

The problem is, you have a tendency to fill in the blanks with your own personal assumptions, not the facts. Additionally, you regularly reinterpret the answers that people provide you with.

Take five minutes to review this thread (as well as the other Indian thread). You'll see example upon example upon example of your injecting of words, ideas and positions that never existed until YOU gave rise to them. Putting words in someone's mouth is perhaps the most dishonest of debate tactics. Regardless of whether it's intentional.
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#1436007 --- 02/10/14 07:18 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo

Not that. shocked

Anybody else want to help Kyle with his Emily Post?
Another none answer. You are so helpful.
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#1436008 --- 02/10/14 07:21 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Additionally, you regularly reinterpret the answers that people provide you with.
You have yet to provide me with any answer to any question. The "Indian situation" is a great example.
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#1436030 --- 02/10/14 11:22 PM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: kyle585]
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I've repeatedly exampled your boorish responses to my answers which included sending you a PM for which any decent person would have offered a sincere apology, yet you continue to dance around the forums believing yourself to be entitled to immediate gratification to your speculation, misinterpretations and mischaracterizations, without so much as a cursory acknowledgment.

Until such time that you demonstrate a genuine interest in participating in a mature debate possessing a true give and take of ideas, you can assume that you're on your own when it comes to having your questions answered.

It's one thing to be uninformed, it's something altogether different to be willfully ignorant. Especially when one has the intellectual capacity that I recognize you to be endowed with.
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#1436033 --- 02/11/14 04:42 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Excellent post Timbo!

Oh noooo! I am turning into Kyle LOL grin
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#1436034 --- 02/11/14 04:45 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Hey Kyle and Bluezone..... Just so you know.... Seneca Niagara Casino is ALIVE and WELL!!!! Was there Saturday Night for a concert and the buffet, gaming floor and the Event Center were PACKED! Best of all....FREE booze while gambling!!! The Tonowanda's totem pole gas station in Basom was packed for their Ethanol free/Tax Free gas too!

You will be happy to know that I did my part though....I paid thruway tolls and the $1 grand island bridge toll too. grin
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#1436037 --- 02/11/14 05:09 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
It's one thing to be uninformed, it's something altogether different to be willfully ignorant. Especially when one has the intellectual capacity that I recognize you to be endowed with.
The following people agree with me on the Indian situation: our local state senator and assemblyman, all 12 members of the Seneca County Board of Supervisors, all 5 members of the Cayuga County legislature. Are they all uniformed or willfully ignorant?
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#1436044 --- 02/11/14 06:49 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: bluezone]
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Willfully ignorant...especially Bozzollio. He is double dipping and doesn't want that cash cow to die. Then when he finally gets beat in an election he will retire out of state and still get $$ from the law firms frivolous battles
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#1436046 --- 02/11/14 06:53 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: kyle585]
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See... even when it's repeatedly pointed out to you, you still can't help but make gross assumptions.

Oh well.
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#1436054 --- 02/11/14 08:02 AM Re: $150 BILLION Owed NY by Tribes [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
It's one thing to be uninformed, it's something altogether different to be willfully ignorant.


you live in CNY so tell us what 'reservation' you live on?
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