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#1434902 --- 02/02/14 03:11 PM Seeds for the Butterflies
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#1434909 --- 02/02/14 04:09 PM Re: Seeds for the Butterflies [Re: MissingArty]
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In 1991, over 75% of the wintering Monarchs from North America froze to death in Mexico as a result of three days of rain and sub-freezing conditions.


The nutters will probably find a way to blame that on ACC, which is so small and inconsequential as not to even be a problem. In fact, the natural cooling we are now undergoing can only hurt Monarchs, especially due to their critically lessened numbers.

The time, energy, and money wasted on the ACC fools' panic should be much better spent addressing the actual, real problems which we do face, such as the GMOs and pesticides, and one of the very sad results of them, mentioned in the excellent and timely (although it appears that the Monarch's time may be soon ending frown ) article you linked.

Hey...if you like potato chips, try Utz brand. Potatoes are non-GM, and 2 of their several lines use non-GM fats...peanut or lard, both non-hydrogenated. The "Grandma's" line, with lard, is to live for. Popcorn is still non-GM, too, although the seasoning/oil packets that come with most are toxic...make your own...sea salt,VCO, and butter.
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#1434914 --- 02/02/14 04:51 PM Re: Seeds for the Butterflies [Re: MissingArty]
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Don't know much about butterflies, but apparently they don't need a green card....but UTZ CHIPS ARE THE ABSOLUTE BEST. Haven't seen them much up here, but plenty in PA.

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#1434916 --- 02/02/14 05:00 PM Re: Seeds for the Butterflies [Re: MissingArty]
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Seneca County farmers contribute the dimishing population with the toxic Monstanto seeds they plant and the rampant use of Roundup.

I hate Seneca Meadows, but if I had my wish to eradicate one thing it would be the poison on the land from agriculture. Our farmers don't need this poisonous GMO seed banned in other countries. Cancer, water pollution, death of butterflies, bees...we've got trouble. Read deep past this article....

http://www.alternet.org/environment/monsanto-killing-monarch-butterflies-too

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#1434917 --- 02/02/14 05:21 PM Re: Seeds for the Butterflies [Re: mikey]
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monarch population began to steadily sink as a result of grasslands rapidly being wiped out in favor of corn


Let's not forget that the subsidising of corn and ethanol, in order to foist ethanol on the public, is just one more gov't idiocy.

"But...but what would we ever do without the Dept. of Agriculture and the EPA to help us?" LOLOLOL...barf.
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#1435071 --- 02/04/14 12:41 AM Re: Seeds for the Butterflies [Re: MissingArty]
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The Seneca County Farm Bureau says "we can't afford not to use gmo seed." Monsanto runs the farm bureaus. These farmers will soon find that their business is dying because more people are learning about gmo's. They are also learning where to buy non gmo food and to seek out farmers that have a reputation for raising organic food and grass fed animals. The closest Trader Joe's to us is in Pittsford and the closest grass fed farmer to us is Autumns Harvest Farm.

There is a lot of good news folks, a bunch more states are starting legislation for gmo food labeling (banning being the goal but, we have to get through the crooks in the government). We have two NY legislators who are doing the right thing by their constituents. Rosenthal: bill A.3525-A and LaValle: bill S.3835-A. I'll post more on these bills as I get it.

More companies are coming out in support of labeling gmo's, the latest one being Netflix. Yes, I said Netflix.

Hawaii was successful in passing laws to make the chemical companies stop spraying in certain areas (like next to schools) and they have to make reports of what and where they are spraying. The chemical companies are fighting back.

The restaurant chain Chipotle is serving all non gmo food starting on February 15th. I'm going to be there. I'm hoping that they will have some tv commercials but, if you understand the Corporate Connection Map, that may not be possible.

I am on my family's shit list; not welcome to talk about this at family gatherings and am not allowed to be with a grandchild because I won't feed my grandchild gmo food. I miss my grandchild terribly. So I am keeping busy trying to educate people.

Please feel free to message me if you'd like to connect with me on facebook and I can connect you with pages of great importance. All names kept confidential. If you do not have a facebook page, I urge you to open one. Social media is how we are getting the word out and how we are fighting back to get our food, country and earth back to where it should be, in the hands of the people, not politicians and corporations.

One person I'd like to introduce forum folks to is "Ray Occupy Lewis," a former Philly, PA cop that goes around to protests in his police uniform even though he is retired. This man is inspiring and he lives here in Upstate NY near us.
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#1435117 --- 02/04/14 12:14 PM Re: Seeds for the Butterflies [Re: MissingArty]
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not welcome to talk about this at family gatherings and am not allowed to be with a grandchild because I won't feed my grandchild gmo food.


That's a sad situation. Feeding a child GM food is child abuse. Adults have a right to eat it, and voluntarily increase their risk of disease and early death, if that's their choice, but it's immoral, and should be criminally negligent, to do that to a child.
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#1435179 --- 02/04/14 07:50 PM Re: Seeds for the Butterflies [Re: MissingArty]
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thank you ! ordering some.
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#1435326 --- 02/05/14 05:06 PM Re: Seeds for the Butterflies [Re: MissingArty]
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At least check out this facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/MarchAgainstMonstanto
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#1435846 --- 02/08/14 11:03 PM Re: Seeds for the Butterflies [Re: MissingArty]
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Sponsors of a bill to require the labeling of genetically modified foods, or GMOs, say they hope they have better luck this year advancing the legislation, after it died in committee late last session.

The bill would require that all genetically engineered food sold in New York be clearly labeled. Assembly Sponsor Linda Rosenthal, a Democrat, says the measure would give consumers the choice of whether they want to buy genetically altered food, or not.

“We have the right to know what is in the food we buy and the food we consume,” Rosenthal said. “It’s a consumer protection effort”.

Rosenthal does have questions about whether genetically altered food is potentially harmful, though she says the bill is not about that.

“The evidence is not in, but I’ve heard some disturbing reports about GMOs,” said Rosenthal, who says her concerns include the need to use more pesticides on genetically modified foods.

“Who wants to ingest that?” she asked.

Rosenthal was joined by a state lawmaker from neighboring Connecticut. Representative Tony Hwang sponsored a law that would eventually require that GMO food be clearly labeled in his state. Hwang, a Republican, says he’s not against genetically engineered foods, and is not convinced that they are harmful. He also views it as a right to know issue.

“It’s an issue that crosses partisan lines,” Hwang said.

A similar law to require GMO labeling has passed in Maine, but both laws are contingent upon several contiguous states also approving the legislation, so that food manufacturers would only have to alter their labels for one large Northeastern market.

The New York bill has a sponsor in the GOP-led state Senate, Senator Ken LaValle. The bill has not yet made it out of committee in either house. It was voted down in the Consumer Protection Committee in the waning days of last year’s session. Rosenthal says she thought she had the votes for passage, but at the last minute some on the committee changed their minds. She blames big agricultural companies like Monsanto and their lobbyists.

“Monsantos of the word are spending millions upon millions of dollars trying to prevent passage of labeling laws around the country,” Rosenthal said.

Rick Zimmerman, with the Northeast Agriculture and Feed Alliance, which represents larger farms, seed distributors and other parts of the agricultural industry, says Monsanto is getting a bad rap. He says the organic food industry, which includes some large conglomerates, is also spending millions of dollars to help see the labeling bills passed in the Northeast.

“The organic food industry is funding a lot of this initiative to disparage commercial agriculture,” Zimmerman said. “It’s all about increasing market share, purely and simply”.

Zimmerman says the bill’s supporters are trying to simplify the issue into a consumer rights matter, but he says it’s far more complex than that.

“It’s a complicated truth versus a simple lie,” said Zimmerman, who says it’s not simply a right-to-know issue.

“This is a right to confuse and a right to scare consumers,” he said “ It’s a right to disparage mainstream agriculture.”

He says no major studies have proved harm from genetically modified foods. He says the pesticide most commonly used, Round Up, is far less dangerous than the pesticides of prior decades, and the residue largely evaporates before the crops are harvested.

Zimmerman says there is a way to use existing labels to avoid genetically engineered food, buy organic.

Assemblywoman Rosenthal is persevering; she’s trying to win more support for her measure this year and already has 46 co –sponsors from both major political parties.

“I’m looking forward to passing it,” Rosenthal said.

The Assembly Consumer Protection Committee could hold a vote on the bill to label genetically engineered food by the end of the month.

http://innovationtrail.org/post/legislative-sponsors-hopeful-advancing-gmo-labeling-bill
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#1436001 --- 02/10/14 06:21 PM Re: Seeds for the Butterflies [Re: MissingArty]
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#1436009 --- 02/10/14 07:53 PM Re: Seeds for the Butterflies [Re: MissingArty]
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