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#1433269 --- 01/20/14 10:34 AM Re: Cuomo: Conservatives Have No Place in the State [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Fritz

“Who are they? Are they these extreme conservatives who are right-to-life, pro-assault-weapon, anti-gay? Is that who they are?

Probably. One thing for sure is that they've sealed the fate of the GOP. Going the way of the Whig Party, anyone? smirk
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#1433279 --- 01/20/14 11:25 AM Re: Cuomo: Conservatives Have No Place in the State [Re: ]
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What a shock... no citation. smirk
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#1433282 --- 01/20/14 11:35 AM Re: Cuomo: Conservatives Have No Place in the State [Re: Josephus]
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Originally Posted By: Josephus
Originally Posted By: Fritz

“Who are they? Are they these extreme conservatives who are right-to-life, pro-assault-weapon, anti-gay? Is that who they are?

Probably. One thing for sure is that they've sealed the fate of the GOP. Going the way of the Whig Party, anyone? smirk

Yup!

I'm currently reading a great book on that very thing. The parallels are uncanny (as are many of the reasons for it).
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#1433363 --- 01/20/14 06:52 PM Re: Cuomo: Conservatives Have No Place in the State [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: Josephus
Originally Posted By: Fritz

“Who are they? Are they these extreme conservatives who are right-to-life, pro-assault-weapon, anti-gay? Is that who they are?

Probably. One thing for sure is that they've sealed the fate of the GOP. Going the way of the Whig Party, anyone? smirk

Yup!

I'm currently reading a great book on that very thing. The parallels are uncanny (as are many of the reasons for it).


As are the parallels between the collapse of the Roman Empire and the present day U.S.; lack of leadership, weak work ethic, stagnant economy, continued tax of the working class, weak military, attacks from outside and within the empire, corrupt government....

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#1433398 --- 01/21/14 12:10 AM Re: Cuomo: Conservatives Have No Place in the State [Re: howbouthat]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Originally Posted By: Josephus
Originally Posted By: Fritz

“Who are they? Are they these extreme conservatives who are right-to-life, pro-assault-weapon, anti-gay? Is that who they are?
Probably. One thing for sure is that they've sealed the fate of the GOP. Going the way of the Whig Party, anyone? smirk
Yup!

I'm currently reading a great book on that very thing. The parallels are uncanny (as are many of the reasons for it).
As are the parallels between the collapse of the Roman Empire and the present day U.S.; lack of leadership, weak work ethic, stagnant economy, continued tax of the working class, weak military, attacks from outside and within the empire, corrupt government....

Sorry Howie, you seem to be in need of brushing up on the historical record of the decline and fall of the Roman Empire.

In a nutshell... Unrestrained expansion and the abuse by the wealthy elite of the system (laborers) to the point of unsustainability and ultimate collapse were the prime factors behind it.

You are right in that there are indeed parallels. Just not at all in the ways that you suggest. They similarities are far closer in practice to the policies of the political right than most anything originating from the political left. Much like the WHIGS.

Enter the Know Nothing and Republican parties.
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#1433435 --- 01/21/14 12:57 PM Re: Cuomo: Conservatives Have No Place in the State [Re: ]
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I'm glad I didn't vote for him. I will be sending this as a reminder for those who did when he is up for re election. I have a family member who adores him. She probably never heard this or if she did, she will ignore it or agree with it. Woe to the republic!
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#1433451 --- 01/21/14 03:18 PM Re: Cuomo: Conservatives Have No Place in the State [Re: WilllOWisp]
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Originally Posted By: WilllOWisp
I'm glad I didn't vote for him. I will be sending this as a reminder for those who did when he is up for re election. I have a family member who adores him. She probably never heard this or if she did, she will ignore it or agree with it. Woe to the republic!


grin I don't think he sees all the people (including liberals) fleeing NY.
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#1433454 --- 01/21/14 03:43 PM Re: Cuomo: Conservatives Have No Place in the State [Re: ]
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Aren't all the conservatives going to Costa Rica with Limbaugh?
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#1433465 --- 01/21/14 04:28 PM Re: Cuomo: Conservatives Have No Place in the State [Re: Fud_P]
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Aren't all the conservatives going to Costa Rica with Limbaugh?

You mean the country where they can all have socialized medicine? grin
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#1433467 --- 01/21/14 04:32 PM Re: Cuomo: Conservatives Have No Place in the State [Re: Josephus]
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Bazinga!
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#1433470 --- 01/21/14 05:00 PM Re: Cuomo: Conservatives Have No Place in the State [Re: Timbo]
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#1433474 --- 01/21/14 05:30 PM Re: Cuomo: Conservatives Have No Place in the State [Re: Timbo]
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#1433480 --- 01/21/14 07:07 PM Re: Cuomo: Conservatives Have No Place in the State [Re: sands]
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Good... and he shouldn't let the door hit him as he exits.
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#1433481 --- 01/21/14 07:08 PM Re: Cuomo: Conservatives Have No Place in the State [Re: ]
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Remember when Harley served his country?

Me neither...
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#1433489 --- 01/21/14 08:00 PM Re: Cuomo: Conservatives Have No Place in the State [Re: ]
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Ahahahahahahaha...thank God for reality...schmuck!

Oh really? Care to prove me wrong and live up to your promises?

Come on Harley... don't let your brig record get in the way, if that's what's holding you back. grin
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#1433512 --- 01/21/14 10:31 PM Re: Cuomo: Conservatives Have No Place in the State [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Josephus
Originally Posted By: Fritz

Ahahahahahahaha...thank God for reality...schmuck!
Oh really? Care to prove me wrong and live up to your promises?

Come on Harley... don't let your brig record get in the way, if that's what's holding you back. grin
Give it up! It isn't happening

Perhaps not on the forums, if you know what I mean. wink grin
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#1433565 --- 01/22/14 10:32 AM Re: Cuomo: Conservatives Have No Place in the State [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Fritz
Timmy, we all know you're uncoachable. It comes down to you loosing service weapon...ahahahahahahahahaha. Hey, I have to tell you, I never lost a gun in my life.

Sorry Buckwheat, the closest I've come to law enforcement are some family members that are now retired from the force and a couple duty rotations while on Shore Patrol (which BTW never ONCE resulted in the loss of my side arm).

But feel free to keep poking' & hoping', Bucky Boy.
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#1433572 --- 01/22/14 01:23 PM Re: Cuomo: Conservatives Have No Place in the State [Re: Josephus]
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Originally Posted By: Josephus
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Aren't all the conservatives going to Costa Rica with Limbaugh?

You mean the country where they can all have socialized medicine? grin


What a shock no citations!

It would seem only those with employment are covered under the National system in Costa Rica. And it would seem that most Costa Ricans opt for the private system. OOPS might want to do some research next time.

Health System in Costa Rica

Health System in Costa Rica

Information about the national and private healthcare system in Costa Rica, from registering for health insurance to seeking medical treatment…

Universal social security and healthcare coverage in Costa Rica was founded in the 1940s and is a great source of pride for Costa Ricans. It has contributed to relatively low child/maternal fatality and high life expectancy rates. The organization that governs all public healthcare and welfare benefits in Costa Rica is known as La Caja or Caja Costarricense de Seguro Social (CCSS).

Anyone who lives or travels in Costa Rica can receive treatment from the national health system. However, only those who are legally employed (have a work visa or residency) can be insured under the national health system. Anyone else is expected to pay for healthcare: in cash, via monthly installments, or through private insurance.

While the public system is generally perceived to offer satisfactory medical care, many foreigners and Costa Ricans choose the private system to avoid long queues and to have the freedom to choose their own family doctor. In the public system, patients are assigned their primary doctor and usually need a referral from this doctor in order to see a specialist.


Makes those Costa Ricans look down rite conservative.
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