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#1432534 - 01/13/14 11:24 PM This Week in Responsible Gun Ownership
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A much quieter week this time around, in terms of the raw numbers. Three home invasion shootings, three accidental shootings between siblings, two hunting accidents, two gun cleaning accidents, and just four kids accidentally shot. A few of the more unique stats would include four wives and/or girlfriends accidentally shot by husbands and/or boyfriends (and one boyfriend accidentally shot by a girlfriend), the four "bad guys with a gun" who stopped (or at least accidentally shot) themselves, one guy who accidentally shot himself hunting for an intruder who wasn't there, and one state legislator who accidentally discharged her weapon in the capitol complex in Frankfort, Kentucky.
But that last one wasn't even our most dismaying story. Take your pick from among the upstate New York restaurant patron who accidentally shot himself and his guest (but kept muttering about how he had a permit), the Rochester, New Hampshire, man shot in the head (and yet unhurt!) by a neighbor's gun cleaning accident, or the young Janesville, Wisconsin, man who thought he heard someone breaking into his 13-year-old sister's room, so he just blasted through the door without opening it. There was someone in there, of course. But yes, it was his sister. And no one else.

In other news, there's an update to one of the purported New Year's Even celebratory gunfire incidents. The six-year-old shot in Newport News, Virginia, it turns out, was actually shot not by random gunfire, but by his 21-year-old brother.

Also, there is this.

So, that happened. And so did the rest of last week's GunFAIL incidents, listed below the fold.

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2014/01/13/1...detail=facebook


Edited by twocats (01/13/14 11:24 PM)
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#1432536 - 01/13/14 11:33 PM Re: This Week in Responsible Gun Ownership [Re: twocats]
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Accidents? Yup! But hey, guns for everybody! The more guns there are floating around the safer we'll all be, right?

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#1432551 - 01/14/14 05:27 AM Re: This Week in Responsible Gun Ownership [Re: twocats]
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Originally Posted By: twocats
A much quieter week this time around, in terms of the raw numbers. Three home invasion shootings, three accidental shootings between siblings, two hunting accidents, two gun cleaning accidents, and just four kids accidentally shot. A few of the more unique stats would include four wives and/or girlfriends accidentally shot by husbands and/or boyfriends (and one boyfriend accidentally shot by a girlfriend), the four "bad guys with a gun" who stopped (or at least accidentally shot) themselves, one guy who accidentally shot himself hunting for an intruder who wasn't there, and one state legislator who accidentally discharged her weapon in the capitol complex in Frankfort, Kentucky.

But that last one wasn't even our most dismaying story. Take your pick from among the upstate New York restaurant patron who accidentally shot himself and his guest (but kept muttering about how he had a permit), the Rochester, New Hampshire, man shot in the head (and yet unhurt!) by a neighbor's gun cleaning accident, or the young Janesville, Wisconsin, man who thought he heard someone breaking into his 13-year-old sister's room, so he just blasted through the door without opening it. There was someone in there, of course. But yes, it was his sister. And no one else.

In other news, there's an update to one of the purported New Year's Even celebratory gunfire incidents. The six-year-old shot in Newport News, Virginia, it turns out, was actually shot not by random gunfire, but by his 21-year-old brother.

Also, there is this.

So, that happened. And so did the rest of last week's GunFAIL incidents, listed below the fold.

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2014/01/13/1...detail=facebook

Swell, may I go and throw up now? sick
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#1432717 - 01/15/14 08:27 PM Re: This Week in Responsible Gun Ownership [Re: Lucinda Knotts]
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Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
Accidents? Yup! But hey, guns for everybody! The more guns there are floating around the safer we'll all be, right?


To answer your question the answer is yes. What was posted in the way of accidents and/or intentional shootings doesn't even compare to like a hundred million gun owners.

This weeks responsible gun ownership goes to me. I have owned guns and hunted for 60 years. No accidental discharges. No murders. No lost guns. No stolen guns. Honorable mentions go to my sons and daughter. All hunt and own guns with no accidental shootings. No murders. No guns lost or stolen.
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#1432732 - 01/15/14 09:42 PM Re: This Week in Responsible Gun Ownership [Re: twocats]
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A retired Cop 71 yrs old in movie theater got up set shot two killing one. Over texting. So yea let them there old farts that were once a cop own High cap mags and what ever they seem to claim about being above the law. how many cops go unpunished for domestic reports because it could be embarrassing to the Dpt they work for?
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#1432739 - 01/15/14 10:21 PM Re: This Week in Responsible Gun Ownership [Re: Hard Corps]
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Originally Posted By: Hard Corps
Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
Accidents? Yup! But hey, guns for everybody! The more guns there are floating around the safer we'll all be, right?


To answer your question the answer is yes. What was posted in the way of accidents and/or intentional shootings doesn't even compare to like a hundred million gun owners.

This weeks responsible gun ownership goes to me. I have owned guns and hunted for 60 years. No accidental discharges. No murders. No lost guns. No stolen guns. Honorable mentions go to my sons and daughter. All hunt and own guns with no accidental shootings. No murders. No guns lost or stolen.
What seems to escape you is that more guns in the hands of more people can only lead to more accidents or unnecessary shootings. I don't have a problem with the 2nd amendment, nor with responsible people owning guns if that's what they want. What I have a problem with is the irrational idea that EVERYONE other than the mentally ill or convicted felons should have a gun (at least one if not more) and THAT will make us safer. Somehow, the gun rights fanatics have been pushing that idea on a gullible portion of the public for a long time; pushing the idea that if if you DON'T own a gun, or oppose the proliferation of guns in our society, you're somehow unAmerican; pushing the idea that any attempt to control the flood of guns coming into our public is a bad thing and will destroy our country; pushing the idea that the best way to protect yourself and your family is with a gun.

I'll agree that there are situations in which the presence of a gun has stopped a threat of violence, but there are also many situations in which the mere presence of a gun has resulted in violence which might have been avoided by other means. And let's face it, there are lots of people who now own guns who really shouldn't -- not for any legal reason which would prohibit them from owning a gun, but things such as their failure to fully understand the responsibilities that come with owning a gun, or presence of emotional issues, which while not legally disqualifying, present a danger to them and/or those around them.

By the way, kudos to you and to your son and daughter for not being involved in any gun-related accidents over the years. I hope that will continue in the future.

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#1432742 - 01/15/14 10:52 PM Re: This Week in Responsible Gun Ownership [Re: Lucinda Knotts]
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Resident halts home invasion, KHOU, Houston, Texas, 01/12/14

A man was at his home in Houston, Texas when an intruder attempted to gain access to the house by using a piece of concrete to smash a front window. When the resident became aware of the attempted intrusion he retrieved a gun and fired at the criminal, striking him in the stomach. When the wounded home invader tried to pursue the resident, the homeowner fired at the criminal a second time, striking him in the hand and ending the intrusion.

http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen/2014/resident-halts-home-invasion,-khou,-houston,-texas,-011213.aspx?s=&st=&ps=

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#1432743 - 01/15/14 10:53 PM Re: This Week in Responsible Gun Ownership [Re: Lucinda Knotts]
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Pardon me, Hard Corps. Responsible gun ownership should be expected, not praised.
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#1432744 - 01/15/14 10:53 PM Re: This Week in Responsible Gun Ownership [Re: Lucinda Knotts]
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Armed Citizen halts carjacking, WTVR, Richmond, Va. 01/11/14

A resident of Henrico County, Va. travelled to a housing complex to look at a car that had been listed for sale. When the resident arrived, he was met by a pair of men who robbed him of his car keys and cash at gunpoint. But before the thieves were able to make off with his car, the resident was able to retrieve a shotgun from his vehicle and force the criminals to flee.

http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen/2014/armed-citizen-halts-carjacking,-wtvr,-richmond,-va-011114.aspx?s=&st=&ps=

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#1432745 - 01/15/14 10:55 PM Re: This Week in Responsible Gun Ownership [Re: Timbo]
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Restaurant employee scares off pair of armed robbers, The San Diego Union Tribune, San Diego, Calif. 01/04/14

A pair of masked and armed men entered the Uncle Tony’s Italian Cuisine restaurant in Vista, Calif. intent on robbing the establishment. An employee spotted the criminals, retrieved a gun and fired at the robbers, striking both and causing them to flee. The criminals were captured later in the evening after seeking medical attention at a nearby hospital.

http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen/2014/restaurant-employee-scares-off-pair-of-armed-robbers,-the-san-diego-union-tribune,-san-diego,-calif-010414.aspx?s=&st=&ps=

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#1432746 - 01/15/14 10:56 PM Re: This Week in Responsible Gun Ownership [Re: Timbo]
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Grandmother fights off shotgun-wielding robber, The Shreveport Times, Shreveport, La. 01/06/14

63-year-old Elzie Pipkins was at home in Shreveport, La. when an intruder armed with a shotgun forced his way inside the house. Once inside, the intruder ordered Pipkins’ granddaughter to fill a bag with valuables, while Pipkins begged the criminal to leave with the money in her purse. Pipkins eventually led the intruder to a safe where she keeps some change and a handgun. Pipkins opened the safe and offered the change to the intruder, at which point the criminal took a hand off his shotgun, giving Pipkins an opportunity to retrieve the pistol from the safe and fire it at the robber. The home invader was struck once in the chest and fled before collapsing a block away from Pipkins’ home. Following the shooting, Pipkins made clear she did not relish shooting the criminal, stating to a local news outlet, “Just $55 in coins, and he lost his life, Lord Jesus I wish the young people today would just think, go to school, get an education and a good job and buy what you want... Don’t try to take from someone who has worked all their life and still doesn’t have nothing to give.”

http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen/2014/grandmother-fights-off-shotgun-wielding-robber,-the-shreveport-times,-shreveport,-la-010614.aspx?s=&st=&ps=

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#1432748 - 01/15/14 11:11 PM Re: This Week in Responsible Gun Ownership [Re: sands]
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So you were able to cut and paste a few items from your NRA link. I'm underwhelmed. Have you considered that a few anecdotes in a country of over 300,000,000 people is pretty lame justification for whatever point you're trying to make (and since the "intruder in the first one you posted was armed only with a piece of concrete, I'm guessing that a 911 call followed by a smack with a golf club or baseball bat might have been just as effective in scaring off the intruder). By the way, did you miss the first part of the sentence in which I agreed that "there are situations in which the presence of a gun has stopped a threat of violence?" I don't dispute that at all. I'm only suggesting that the proliferation of guns doesn't our society safer and that there are people who, although legally permitted to do so, shouldn't own guns.

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#1432767 - 01/16/14 07:53 AM Re: This Week in Responsible Gun Ownership [Re: sands]
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http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/12/children-guns-home-investigation-newtown

In testimony given a few weeks after the mass shooting in Newtown, gun rights lobbyist Gayle Trotter emphasized to US senators that the best way for women to keep themselves and their children safe was to be armed. "An assault weapon in the hands of a young woman defending her babies in her home becomes a defense weapon," she said.

In terms of danger to children, Trotter couldn't have been more wrong. According to our latest investigation, in the past year at least 194 kids ages 12 and under were killed by guns, in towns and cities across 43 states. And the vast majority of them were killed in homes—127 in their own, and another 30 in the homes of relatives, friends, or neighbors.

In 39 cases, children were shot intentionally in their own homes by their parents or adult guardians, accounting for more than a third of the 103 total homicides. And out of 84 total accidental shooting deaths, at least 49 involved kids handling a firearm left unsecured inside a home.

Moreover, when it comes to the accidental gun deaths of children, adults are rarely held criminally responsible. In 72 cases in which a child or teen pulled the trigger, killing themselves or other kids, we found only 4 cases in which an adult was convicted. (Charges may still be pending in some cases.) In part that may be because only 14 states and the District of Columbia have strong negligence laws with respect to children and firearms.

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#1432771 - 01/16/14 08:18 AM Re: This Week in Responsible Gun Ownership [Re: Lucinda Knotts]
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Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
So you were able to cut and paste a few items from your NRA link.

That was the top 4 on a page of 40. There are 161 more pages. Should I post them all confused

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#1432796 - 01/16/14 11:18 AM Re: This Week in Responsible Gun Ownership [Re: sands]
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Originally Posted By: sands
Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
So you were able to cut and paste a few items from your NRA link.
That was the top 4 on a page of 40. There are 161 more pages. Should I post them all confused
I'll give you the benefit of doubt as to 40 similar items on that page, Sands, but you know as well as I do that your magazine doesn't consist of 161 pages of shooting incidents. If that's what it's been converted to, NRA management is even nuttier than I thought. If you're the least bit interested in knowing about the other side of the story, try googling "accidental shootings 2013" for a sample of the needless slaughter of innocents.

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#1432835 - 01/16/14 06:51 PM Re: This Week in Responsible Gun Ownership [Re: Lucinda Knotts]
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Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
but you know as well as I do that your magazine doesn't consist of 161 pages of shooting incidents.


#1 I posted from a website, not a magazine.

#2 It's 162 pages.

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#1432837 - 01/16/14 06:57 PM Re: This Week in Responsible Gun Ownership [Re: Lucinda Knotts]
sands Offline
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Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
I'll give you the benefit of doubt as to 40 similar items on that page


Here is the first page. Want to see the other 161 whistle

January 15, 2014
Resident halts home invasion, KHOU, Houston, Texas, 01/12/13
A man was at his home in Houston, Texas when an intruder attempted to gain access to the house by using a piece of concrete to smash a front window. When the resident became aware of the attempted intrusion he retrieved a gun and fired at the criminal, striking him in the stomach. When the wounded home invader tried to pursue the resident, the homeowner fired at the criminal a second time, striking him in the hand and ending the intrusion.
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January 14, 2014
Armed Citizen halts carjacking, WTVR, Richmond, Va. 01/11/14
A resident of Henrico County, Va. travelled to a housing complex to look at a car that had been listed for sale. When the resident arrived, he was met by a pair of men who robbed him of his car keys and cash at gunpoint. But before the thieves were able to make off with his car, the resident was able to retrieve a shotgun from his vehicle and force the criminals to flee.
FULL STORY

January 10, 2014
Restaurant employee scares off pair of armed robbers, The San Diego Union Tribune, San Diego, Calif. 01/04/14
A pair of masked and armed men entered the Uncle Tony’s Italian Cuisine restaurant in Vista, Calif. intent on robbing the establishment. An employee spotted the criminals, retrieved a gun and fired at the robbers, striking both and causing them to flee. The criminals were captured later in the evening after seeking medical attention at a nearby hospital.
FULL STORY

January 9, 2014
Grandmother fights off shotgun-wielding robber, The Shreveport Times, Shreveport, La. 01/06/14
63-year-old Elzie Pipkins was at home in Shreveport, La. when an intruder armed with a shotgun forced his way inside the house. Once inside, the intruder ordered Pipkins’ granddaughter to fill a bag with valuables, while Pipkins begged the criminal to leave with the money in her purse. Pipkins eventually led the intruder to a safe where she keeps some change and a handgun. Pipkins opened the safe and offered the change to the intruder, at which point the criminal took a hand off his shotgun, giving Pipkins an opportunity to retrieve the pistol from the safe and fire it at the robber. The home invader was struck once in the chest and fled before collapsing a block away from Pipkins’ home. Following the shooting, Pipkins made clear she did not relish shooting the criminal, stating to a local news outlet, “Just $55 in coins, and he lost his life, Lord Jesus I wish the young people today would just think, go to school, get an education and a good job and buy what you want... Don’t try to take from someone who has worked all their life and still doesn’t have nothing to give.”
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January 2, 2014
90-year-old store owner stops robber, The Dayton Daily News, Ohio, 12/31/13
90-year-old George Hicks was working at the laundromat he owns in Dayton, Ohio when a man came into the store and asked for change for a five dollar bill. With the cash drawer open on the store’s register, the man confronted Hicks and demanded all of the money. Hicks responded by drawing a handgun from his coat pocket, prompting the criminal to flee. When asked about his experience by a local news outlet, Hicks stated, “Why get scared? I’ve got the gun and he’s running… It was just funny.”
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December 18, 2013
Man discovers trio burglarizing his home, wounds one, The Atlanta Journal Constitution, Atlanta, Ga. 12/16/13
A man was heading to his Dekalb County, Ga. home for lunch when a phone call alerted him to a break-in at his property. When the man arrived home, he went to a back door where he spotted three burglars; prompting him to call 911. While making the call, the three criminals started running towards the homeowner. The homeowner responded by drawing a gun and firing at the burglars, striking one and causing the other two to flee. When police arrived they detained the wounded criminal, whose injuries are considered non-life-threatening.
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December 16, 2013
Resident wounds intruder, Pensacola News Journal, Pensacola, Fla. 12/13/13
A man was at home in West Pensacola, Fla. when he became alerted to an attempt to break into the home’s garage. The resident retrieved a gun, spotted the criminal and fired at him, striking the would-be intruder and causing him to flee. A short time later, the burglar checked himself into a nearby hospital under a fake name and claiming that he had been stabbed. Hospital staff and the Escambia County Sheriff’s Office eventually got to the bottom of the criminals’ ruse, with the burglar admitting to his crime.
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December 13, 2013
Chicago clerk fells armed robber, The Chicago Tribune, Chicago, Ill. 12/11/13
A man armed with a gun entered a cell phone store on Chicago’s South Side and attempted to rob the establishment. The clerk on duty responded to the threat by retrieving a gun and shooting the criminal, killing him. Police have identified the deceased robber as a convict who was paroled earlier in the year. The criminal had been serving time for armed robbery with a firearm.
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December 11, 2013
Elderly man frightens off intruder,The Virginian-Pilot, Hampton Roads, Va. 12/10/13
A 76-year-old man was at home in Hampton, Va. when he heard suspicious noises inside the residence. The man retrieved a gun, went to investigate, and discovered a burglar inside the closet of a barber shop which is attached to the property. The resident fired at the criminal, striking him in the arm and causing him to flee. Police captured the wounded intruder a short time later.
FULL STORY

December 9, 2013
Armed clerk stops robber, (Madison.com, Madison, Wis. 12/03/13)
A robber entered Megan’s Custom Framing in Madison, Wis. and demanded money from the clerk. At first the clerk handed over some cash, but when the robber was unsatisfied and demanded more, the employee retrieved a gun. Upon seeing that the clerk was armed, the criminal fled the scene.
FULL STORY

December 3, 2013
Neighbors praise man who fought off home invaders, WREG, Memphis, Tenn. 11/29/13
After hearing a back window of his home shatter, a homeowner in Memphis, Tenn. called 911 and armed himself with a gun. While the homeowner waited for police to arrive, a pair of burglars attempted to enter the home through the broken window. The homeowner responded by firing at the criminals, striking one and causing the other to flee. Following the shooting, the armed citizen’s neighbors were supportive of his actions, with one stating, “It’s not you taking the law into your own hands; it’s exercising your right as a citizen.”
FULL STORY

November 25, 2013
Clerk frightens robbers with revolver, KOMO, Seattle, Wash. November 24, 2013, Seattle Police Blotter, Seattle, Wash. November 24, 2013
Robert Moore was working a shift at the Morning Star Mini Mart in Seattle, Wash. when a pair of masked criminals entered, brandished what appeared to be a gun, and attempted to rob the store. Moore responded by retrieving a revolver and telling the criminals, “I have a bigger one than you do.” Moore’s actions caused the robbers to flee the store to a waiting getaway car.
FULL STORY

November 21, 2013
Store assistant manager fired for fighting off armed robber, WXIA, Atlanta, Ga. 11/08/13
Johnny Jarriel was working his shift in the back office of a gas station in Douglasville, Ga. when a robber armed with a gun and pepper spray attacked him. The criminal sprayed Jarriel with the pepper spray, then put a gun to his head and forced him to the ground while threatening his life and demanding cash. Jarriel told the robber that the store’s safe was in another part of the business, then, while the criminal was distracted, Jarriel retrieved a gun and fired at his attacker, causing the robber to flee. Unfortunately, a few days after the incident, Jarriel’s employer fired him for violating the store’s no guns policy. Despite his termination, Jarriel, a Right-to-Carry permit holder, told a local media outlet, “I would not change a thing; I would change nothing.”
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November 18, 2013
Woman in her 60s fights off attacker, The Kansas City Star, Kansas City, Mo. 11/14/13
A woman in her 60s was at home in Kansas City, Mo. when a there was a knock at her door. She opened it to find a 24-year-old man, who asked after someone who didn’t live at the residence, then forced his way inside the home. The home invader then sexually assaulted the woman. During a pause in the attack, the woman was able to retrieve a revolver. She then shot and killed the criminal as he was making his way towards her again. The home invader was released from prison in 2012 after serving a sentence for burglary and robbery convictions.
FULL STORY

November 15, 2013
Customer halts armed robbery inside Family Dollar store, WPMI, Mobile, Ala. 11/13/13
Two employees of a Family Dollar store in Mobile, Ala. were unloading a truck, when a pair of armed robbers approached them. One of the criminals forced one of the employees to the front of the store, past terrified customers, and demanded that the employee open the safe. Upon witnessing the robbery, one customer drew a gun and fired at the thief, striking him and causing his accomplice to flee. Following the incident, another customer inside the store during the robbery spoke with reporters and thanked the armed citizen, stating, “"I want to say thank you, thank you, thank you, from the bottom of my heart and God bless you.”
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November 14, 2013
Town forms posse to capture armed robber, (WGXA, Macon, Ga. 11/11/13)
Ken Lowery entered Aden’s convenience store in Rhine, Ga. and found the clerk in distress, shouting that she had just been robbed. Lowery left the store and spotted the robber making a leisurely getaway, walking down the street. The robber’s brazen actions so upset the residents of Rhine that around 20 townspeople armed themselves and formed a posse intent on finding the criminal. Armed with a rifle, Lowery tracked the thief and cornered him in a shed, where the robber remained until police could arrive. Following the criminal’s capture, Major Donald Helms of the Dodge County Sheriff’s Office told local media, that the incident was an example of “good guys with guns.” Other townsfolk agreed with that sentiment when asked for comment by reporters. Resident Kayla Mitchell noted, “I’m glad I stay in a town like this, Rhine is a good town.”
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November 12, 2013
Students fend off robber, face persecution from their university, The Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Wash. 11/11/13, The Associated Press, 11/11/13
Gonzaga University students Erik Fagan and Daniel McIntosh were at home in their university-owned apartment in Spokane, Wash. when a man came to the door asking for money. The man, who police later determined is a convicted felon, got aggressive with Fagan, who called to McIntosh for help. McIntosh, a Right-to-Carry permit holder, retrieved a pistol and came to his roommate’s aide. The aggressor fled once he spotted McIntosh carrying a firearm. Following the incident, the roommates alerted the Spokane Police and campus security to the situation. Despite plaudits from the Spokane Police Department, who said the students “did the right thing,” Gonzaga campus security confiscated the pistol, and a shotgun the pair also kept in their home. Further, the roommates were brought before the school’s disciple board and placed on university probation. In the wake of national exposure, Fagan and McIntosh have announced that they are appealing their probation, and Gonzaga has indicated that they will review their weapons policy.
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November 5, 2013
Right-to-Carry permit holder stops armed robbers, The Reading Eagle, Reading, Pa. 11/05/13
A Right-to-Carry permit holder was leaving an apartment in Reading, Pa. when he noticed that the nearby Krick’s Korner convenience store was being robbed by a pair of armed and masked men. The permit holder went to the store’s entrance and ordered the criminals to halt. The robbers responded by drawing their guns on the permit holder, prompting the armed citizen to fire on the thieves, killing them. Following the shooting, Berks County District Attorney John T. Adams told reporters, “I think that this is an incident where the concerned citizen acted justifiably under the law.” A woman who lives near the store told a local media outlet that Krick’s Korner has been the scene of multiple robberies in recent years.
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November 4, 2013
Female clerk fells armed robber, The Toledo Blade, Toledo, Ohio 11/4/13
An armed robber entered the Stop & Go convenience store in Toledo, Ohio and got into a confrontation with clerk December Long. At some point during the attempted robbery, Long was able to retrieve a firearm, and exchanged gunfire with the criminal. During the exchange, the armed robber was fatally shot, and Long was wounded. Following the shooting, a frequent Stop & Go customer told a local media outlet that Long is “real nice and friendly. Hard-nosed. She doesn’t take guff from anybody.”
FULL STORY

October 30, 2013
Married couple fights off violent burglars, The Selma Times-Journal, Selma, Ala. 10/29/13
A married couple was returning to their home in Selmont, Ala. when they happened upon a pair of burglars. Upon being discovered, one of the burglars attacked the husband. The husband responded by drawing a pistol and shooting the attacker, killing him and causing his accomplice to flee. Following the incident, Sgt. Mike Grantham of the Dallas County Sheriff’s Department noted, “At this point, everything that we have found, everything the investigation has turned up, tells us this was a justified shooting.”
FULL STORY

October 29, 2013
Pizza delivery driver fells robber, The Observer & Eccentric, Detroit, Mich. 10/25/13
A pizza delivery driver for restaurant Hungry Howie’s was working his shift in Redford, Mich. when a group of men attempted to rob him. As the delivery driver was confronted by a member of the group, he drew a gun and fired at the robber, killing him and causing his accomplices to flee. Police captured the other thieves a short time later. The robbers face armed robbery and gun charges, with bail set at $250,000.
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October 24, 2013
Differently abled store owner captures robbers, WATE, Knoxville, Tenn. October 23, 2013
The wheelchair bound owner of Malone’s Jewelers in Alcoa, Tenn. was working at his shop when a man entered and began to occupy his attention. Soon after, another man, who was in league with the first, entered the store and attempted a robbery. The owner responded to the threat by retrieving a gun, shooting one of the criminals in the abdomen, then holding the pair of thieves until police could arrive. When interviewed by a local media outlet, Det. Kris Sanders of the Alcoa Police Department said of the owner, “He did a really good job detaining both individuals until we got there.” The owner has not been charged.
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October 21, 2013
Pastor halts armed robbery, WFIE, Evansville, Ind. 10/20/13
Pastor Carl Sanders walked into a Dollar General store in Evansville, Ind. in order to purchase a Gatorade, but ended up stumbling upon an armed robbery in progress. Shortly after Sanders entered the store, the thief turned his attention to the pastor, ordering him to the ground. Sanders responded by drawing a firearm and telling the armed robber to get on the ground. The thief complied and Sanders held the man until police could arrive. Sanders took no pleasure in the actions some have called heroic. When forcing the armed man to the ground, Sander told the man that his actions were “out of love.” Sanders later said of the criminal, “He didn’t deserve to be hurt… I wanted him to know you can’t do this.”
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October 17, 2013
Permit holder thwarts robbery, The Independent Tribune, Concord, N.C. 10/09/13
Gary Spencer was waiting in his truck in the parking lot of a bank, as his wife deposited a check, when he spotted two men just outside the bank struggling over a money bag. One of the men had waited while the other withdrew $5,000 from the bank, and was now using a stun gun to incapacitate his victim and steal the money. Spencer, who along with his wife, are Right-to-Carry permit holders, drew a .380 pistol from his wife’s purse, ran to the site of the attack and confronted the robber. Upon seeing Spencer’s gun, the criminal fled without the cash. Following the incident, Spencer said to a local media outlet of his actions, “Do you want to help somebody if they’re in need of help, or are you going to turn your head… and act like it’s not going on? I don’t see it as a hero thing. I just see it as me stepping up for somebody who needed a hand.”
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October 15, 2013
Homeowner halts burglary, The Tulsa World, Tulsa, Okla. 10/12/13
A homeowner in Tulsa, Okla. was returning home from a walk when he became aware of an intruder who had broken into his house. The homeowner retrieved a gun, found the burglar and fired at him, striking him three times. The criminal was taken to a local hospital with life-threatening injuries.
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October 9, 2013
Man defends children from violent dog, NBC, Los Angeles, Calif. 10/07/13
Two children were outside on a public street in San Bernardino, Calif. when a pit bull attacked them. As the children tried to escape from the dog, the children’s aunt picked up a toy scooter and attempted to use it to fight the dog off. A neighbor noticed the attack, retrieved a gun, and shot and killed the dog. Following the incident, the aunt explained to a reporter that she was fearful for the children’s lives and said that the armed citizen is a hero. One of the children was taken to a local hospital for her injuries, but is now fine.
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October 7, 2013
Business owner protects friends and family from armed robbers, KTRK, Houston, Texas 10/05/13
Mack Agaybi was inside the back office of his car dealership, A B Motors, in Houston, Texas when he spotted two armed men entering his store on a surveillance camera. Agaybi retrieved a gun, went to the front of the store, which was filled with friends and family members, and fired at the criminals, causing them to flee. Following the shootout, Agaybi realized his friend had been shot in the fracas and immediately put him into his car and drove to a local clinic. The friend is expected to survive. Agaybi told reporters that without his gun, he, his friends, and family members would have been killed.
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October 4, 2013
Business owner fells one intruder and captures another, The Seattle Times, Seattle, Wash. October 2, 2013
The owner of Frager Farm Stand and Fruit Tree Nursery in Kent, Wash. was about to go to bed when he heard a suspicious noise at his business, which is right next to his home. The owner retrieved a shotgun, went to investigate, and discovered a pair of intruders inside the farm stand’s office. The owner shot and killed one of the criminals and held the other at gunpoint until police could arrive. The break-in was the second in as many days for the farm stand. An investigation revealed that the surviving burglar was facing a domestic violence charge and had a recent history of drug use.
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October 2, 2013
Elderly woman scares off home invader, The Times and Democrat, Orangeburg, S.C. 10/01/13
An 85-year-old woman was asleep at home in Orangeburg County, S.C. when she awakened to the sound of her dog barking. The woman retrieved a gun, went to investigate, and discovered an intruder inside her home. The woman asked the intruder, “what are you doing in my house?” The criminal refused to answer or move, prompting the woman to fire at the home invader, which caused him to flee.
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September 26, 2013
Convenience store owner holds robber for police, The St. Louis Dispatch, St. Louis, Mo. 09/24/13
A robber entered the Raetta Quick Stop convenience store in House Springs, Mo. displayed a gun and demanded money from the clerk. The clerk complied with the demand, but the owner of the store retrieved a handgun and confronted the criminal. The owner was able to hold the robber at gunpoint until police could arrive, without anyone getting hurt.
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September 24, 2013
Retired federal agent fights off robber, KHOU, Houston, Texas 09/16/13
A family was returning home from a funeral when a masked and armed robber approached them in the driveway of one of their houses in Harris County, Texas and demanded cash. The brother-in-law of the homeowner, a retired federal agent, responded to the threat by drawing a gun and firing at the thief, striking him twice and causing him to flee. The robber was captured a short time later after seeking treatment at a nearby hospital. The retired agent’s actions seem to have inspired at least one of his brother-in-law’s neighbors who told a local media outlet, “I might start taking gun classes for protection.” Investigators believe the thief may have been involved in other robberies earlier in the evening.
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September 19, 2013
Convenience store owner fights off armed robbers, WHIO, Dayton, Ohio 09/15/13, 09/16/13
Two men, at least one of whom was armed with a gun, entered the 3rd Base Drive Thru convenience store in Dayton, Ohio and attempted to rob the store. Store owner Thomas Mauro was in an office in the rear of the store when he spotted the pair on a surveillance feed. Mauro retrieved a gun and fired at the criminals, striking one in the chest and causing both to flee. The wounded robber only made it to the restaurant next door before collapsing. When interviewed by a local media outlet, Dayton Police Lieutenant Donald Burden stated that it is unlikely the store owner will face charges.
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September 18, 2013
77-year-old man defends home from burglar, The Missoulian, Missoula, Mont. 09/16/13
A man approached the home of a 77-year-old man in Missoula, Mont. and threw a chair through a window to gain access to the house. Upon becoming aware of the intruder, the homeowner retrieved a gun and fired at the burglar, striking him once. Once authorities arrived, the wounded man was taken to a local hospital where he is expected to survive. Missoula Detective Sgt. Scott Pastian noted that police suspect drugs may have been a factor in the attempted burglary.
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September 13, 2013
Pharmacist protects himself and employee from machete-wielding robber, KATV, Little Rock, Ark. 09/05/13
Owner Andy Blansett and employee Melanie Miller were working at the Medicine Shoppe pharmacy in North Little Rock, Ark. when a man came in and demanded painkillers. The man then drew a machete, intimidated Miller and attempted to climb over the pharmacy’s counter. In response, Blansett retrieved a .45-caliber pistol and pointed it at the thief, causing him to flee. Drug thieves beware, in an interview with a local media outlet Blansett noted, “All of the independently owned pharmacists I know carry a concealed [weapon] on them or have one in the store.”
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September 12, 2013
Pregnant woman scares off burglars, KGBT, Harlingen, Texas 09/09/13
A pregnant woman was inside her home in Palmview, Texas when a pair of burglars approached the house. One thief went to the front door and rang the doorbell, while the other moved to a back door. After spotting the burglars, the homeowner retrieved a handgun and the telephone, and called the police. Eventually the woman fired at the intruders, causing them to flee. The thieves were captured a short time later after police cornered them in a nearby home. Following the incident, the homeowner told a reporter that she had initially been against her husband purchasing the handgun she used to defend herself, but noted that after the shooting she told him, “thank you for doing that.”
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September 11, 2013
Armed driver stops carjackers, WECT, Wilmington, N.C.09/05/13
A man was driving his truck with the windows down through Wilmington, N.C. when a pair of robbers approached him while the vehicle was stopped. One of the thieves grabbed the driver’s arm, pointed a gun at him and said, “Give me your truck.” The driver responded by retrieving a pistol and pointing it at the carjackers, causing them to flee.
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September 6, 2013
Armed homeowner ends wild crime spree, KCTV, Kansas City, Mo. 09/05/13
A man was at home asleep with his wife and child in their Kansas City, Mo. home when the family was awakened by a suspicious noise. The man retrieved a shotgun, went to investigate, and discovered a burglar who had broken into the home’s garage. The homeowner fired at the intruder, killing him. The shooting ended a lengthy crime spree perpetrated by the burglar that included the theft of three cars, one by a carjacking at gunpoint, and another burglary.
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September 5, 2013
Veteran thwarts liquor store robbery, The Springfield News-Leader, Springfield, Mo. 09/03/13
Jon Alexander was clerking at the Beer 30 liquor store in Marionville, Mo. when a man entered the store, drew a gun, and pointed it at him. Alexander, a 30-year military veteran who served four tours in Iraq, immediately pushed the robber’s gun away with his left hand, drew a pistol with his right, and pointed it at the thief’s head, causing the robber to flee the store. Following the incident, the owner of the store, Jeannine Dawson, spoke with a local media outlet. Dawson explained that Alexander acted just as she would have predicted during the robbery, and stated that she enjoyed showing her friends the surveillance footage of the confrontation, noting, “They’re shocked when they see the robber pull a gun, but then they’re just delighted when Jon stops him.”
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August 30, 2013
73-year-old retired teacher defends himself and a neighbor from an intruder, The Sun-Sentinel, Palm Beach, Fla. 08/29/13, WFOR-TV, Miami, Fla. 08/28/13
A 73-year-old retired teacher was at home in Oakland Park, Fla. when a burglar smashed a window to gain access to the house. The homeowner retrieved a gun, went to investigate, and discovered the thief just outside the home, carrying a TV and attacking a neighbor intent on reporting the crime. The homeowner fired at the criminal, striking him several times and causing him to flee to a nearby getaway vehicle. A short time later, police found the getaway vehicle wrecked, with the thief still inside it, about a mile away. The homeowner made clear to a local media outlet that he did not relish being forced to defend himself and his neighbor, but one of his friends offered effusive praise, stating, “Good for him; wonderful. I wish more people would do that. It’s ridiculous for people to break into homes and think they can get away with it.” The Broward County State Attorney’s Office may look into the shooting, but Broward County Sheriff’s Spokesman Mike Jachles indicated that charges were unlikely, telling reporters, “It appears this was a justifiable shooting... Every indication is that the homeowner was defending himself, his property and his neighbor from being attacked by the intruder.” The intruder faces charges of burglary of an occupied dwelling and grand theft.
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August 29, 2013
Liquor store owner fights off armed robbers, WMAZ, Macon, Ga. 08/27/13
A pair of men, at least one of whom was armed, entered the Helena Package Store in Helena, Ga. and confronted the woman who owns the store. The owner responded by retrieving a handgun and firing at the intruders, striking one and causing the other to flee. The wounded man was taken to a local hospital where he is listed as in stable condition and faces armed robbery charges. Helena Police Chief Glenn Giles has made clear that the store owner will not face charges.

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#1432874 - 01/17/14 12:14 AM Re: This Week in Responsible Gun Ownership [Re: twocats]
Lucinda Knotts Offline
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Registered: 01/11/11
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Loc: USA
OK, you showed me yours, now take a look at these:

http://usgunviolence.wordpress.com/category/accidental-shooting/

BTW, we've got more.

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#1432875 - 01/17/14 12:42 AM Re: This Week in Responsible Gun Ownership [Re: Lucinda Knotts]
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Posts: 7441
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: Lucinda Knotts
OK, you showed me yours, now take a look at these:
http://usgunviolence.wordpress.com/category/accidental-shooting/

People have accidents with cars. Do I have to give up my car confused

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#1432877 - 01/17/14 12:56 AM Re: This Week in Responsible Gun Ownership [Re: sands]
Timbo Offline
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Registered: 07/18/12
Posts: 9583
Loc: CNY

No one's allowed to run someone over with a car because you're in fear of being run over by someone else with a car.
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