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#1430729 - 12/30/13 03:01 PM House Repubs cut benefits to 1.3 MILLION Americans
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1.3 Million Americans Lose Jobless Benefits
http://www.thenation.com/blog/177724/hol...obless-benefits
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#1431543 - 01/06/14 07:36 AM Re: House Repubs cut benefits to 1.3 MILLION Americans [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo

1.3 Million Americans Lose Jobless Benefits
http://www.thenation.com/blog/177724/hol...obless-benefits



it was done by all of Congress but twist it anyways you wish.....if the Dums wanted to reinstate those benefits so badly they wouldn't have supported the budget package......but then if Baracks recovery was going as well as they claim.....there wouldn't be such a need for all these jobless benefits......just saying!

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#1431682 - 01/06/14 10:52 PM Re: House Repubs cut benefits to 1.3 MILLION Americans [Re: SportsRef1]
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#1431684 - 01/06/14 11:16 PM Re: House Repubs cut benefits to 1.3 MILLION Americans [Re: twocats]
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Wouldn't it be justice if Paul Ryan was defeated in the next election by a margin of about 28,000? smile
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#1431687 - 01/06/14 11:29 PM Re: House Repubs cut benefits to 1.3 MILLION Americans [Re: Josephus]
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#1431689 - 01/06/14 11:35 PM Re: House Repubs cut benefits to 1.3 MILLION Americans [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
House Repubs cut benefits to 1.3 MILLION Americans


Is that the Bill 49 Democratic Senators voted yes on but only 2 Democratic Senators voted no on confused

Is that the Bill 163 Democrats in the House voted yes on confused

Is that the Bill 62 Republicans in the House voted no on but only 32 Democrats in the House voted no confused

Is that the Bill Obama, a Democrat, signed into law while he was on vacation in Hawaii confused

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#1431710 - 01/07/14 07:17 AM Re: House Repubs cut benefits to 1.3 MILLION Americans [Re: sands]
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Originally Posted By: sands
Originally Posted By: Timbo
House Repubs cut benefits to 1.3 MILLION Americans


Is that the Bill 49 Democratic Senators voted yes on but only 2 Democratic Senators voted no on confused

Is that the Bill 163 Democrats in the House voted yes on confused

Is that the Bill 62 Republicans in the House voted no on but only 32 Democrats in the House voted no confused

Is that the Bill Obama, a Democrat, signed into law while he was on vacation in Hawaii confused



that was done so that the Dums could try and back the GOP into the corner in the new session.....the reason Prince Harry held the measure out of the Budget bill.....but today the anointed one will get on TV with unemployed people at his side to grandstand when in fact this will just be more prove at what a failure the big "O" has been in this so called recovery....after 5 years he's now gonna focus on the economy and jobs....LOL!

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#1431745 - 01/07/14 11:39 AM Re: House Repubs cut benefits to 1.3 MILLION Americans [Re: SportsRef1]
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http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/...mpathy-gap?lite

After losing the 2012 presidential election, after that 47% comment, and after a majority of voters (according to the exit polls) said that Mitt Romney’s policies favored the rich, Republicans acknowledged that they needed to close the empathy gap with Democrats. “The Republican Party must be the champion of those who seek to climb the economic ladder of life,” the RNC declared in its post-election autopsy. But the GOP didn’t come close to meeting that goal in 2013. For the first time ever, House Republicans decided to split food stamps (which benefit the poor) from agriculture subsidies (which benefit well-off farmers) in the farm bill. In addition, many of the party’s governors and GOP state legislators opposed expanding Medicaid to provide health insurance to low-income Americans. And in the first few days of 2014, Senate Republicans could filibuster a measure this morning at 10:30 am ET -- co-sponsored by a colleague, Sen. Dean Heller (R-NV) -- that would extend unemployment benefits for three months. Per NBC’s Kasie Hunt, four Republicans (Heller, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, and Kelly Ayotte) have signaled they will vote on the motion to proceed on the legislation, but that’s one vote shy of the 60 needed to clear the procedural hurdle.

Former George W. Bush aide Peter Wehner recently argued that the Republican Party had an obligation to close the empathy gap. “I want to underscore the fact that focusing attention on those living in the shadows of American society is the responsibility of a great political party; and how to create greater opportunity and social mobility for those stuck on the bottom rungs of society should be part of any conservative governing vision."


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#1431746 - 01/07/14 11:43 AM Re: House Repubs cut benefits to 1.3 MILLION Americans [Re: SportsRef1]
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Originally Posted By: SportsRef1
today the anointed one will get on TV with unemployed people at his side to grandstand when in fact this will just be more prove at what a failure the big "O" has been in this so called recovery....after 5 years he's now gonna focus on the economy and jobs....LOL!
If unemployed workers are collecting unemployment checks they will be immediately using this money to buy needed goods and services thus bolstering the economy. If they don't have unemployment checks they may be forced to sell their cars, homes, and other possessions in a desperate attempt to keep the wolf away from the door.
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#1431751 - 01/07/14 11:59 AM Re: House Repubs cut benefits to 1.3 MILLION Americans [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: SportsRef1
today the anointed one will get on TV with unemployed people at his side to grandstand when in fact this will just be more prove at what a failure the big "O" has been in this so called recovery....after 5 years he's now gonna focus on the economy and jobs....LOL!
If unemployed workers are collecting unemployment checks they will be immediately using this money to buy needed goods and services thus bolstering the economy. If they don't have unemployment checks they may be forced to sell their cars, homes, and other possessions in a desperate attempt to keep the wolf away from the door.



and that has to do with what Kyle....the war on poverty has been going on for 50 years(Johnsons days)maybe it's time to come up with a new approach....."O" has stated America was recovering, many times.....this is just more proof that the anointed one and his agenda have failed.....give the unemployed the money......soon we will all be suffering from the antics of these class clowns otherwise known as Obama/Biden.

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#1431754 - 01/07/14 12:09 PM Re: House Repubs cut benefits to 1.3 MILLION Americans [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
Originally Posted By: SportsRef1
today the anointed one will get on TV with unemployed people at his side to grandstand when in fact this will just be more prove at what a failure the big "O" has been in this so called recovery....after 5 years he's now gonna focus on the economy and jobs....LOL!
If unemployed workers are collecting unemployment checks they will be immediately using this money to buy needed goods and services thus bolstering the economy. If they don't have unemployment checks they may be forced to sell their cars, homes, and other possessions in a desperate attempt to keep the wolf away from the door.



I am reminiscence of the Marie Antoinette myth, "Let them eat cake" wherein the peasants had no provisions to prepare certain food but her arrogance was her downfall. The Republican's trend of repeating how they're looking out for the welfare of the entire country will utterly fail them at the polls due to the fact that the very people they're harming are the very one still possessing the ability to retaliate those disrespectful acts......continue to vote anything but Republican.
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#1431755 - 01/07/14 12:09 PM Re: House Repubs cut benefits to 1.3 MILLION Americans [Re: Timbo]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo

1.3 Million Americans Lose Jobless Benefits


Originally Posted By: Timbo
"because the needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few."



would that be the few or the many?


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#1431756 - 01/07/14 12:11 PM Re: House Repubs cut benefits to 1.3 MILLION Americans [Re: SportsRef1]
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Originally Posted By: SportsRef1
..the war on poverty has been going on for 50 years(Johnsons days)maybe it's time to come up with a new approach.....
Wow. 50 years. You mean the war on poverty went on under Nixon, Reagan and the two Bushes?


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#1431758 - 01/07/14 12:23 PM Re: House Repubs cut benefits to 1.3 MILLION Americans [Re: SportsRef1]
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Originally Posted By: SportsRef1
....this is just more proof that the anointed one and his agenda have failed.....give the unemployed the money......
Are you in favor of eliminating all unemployment payments?

http://www.dol.gov/ocia/pdf/75th-Anniversary-Summary-FINAL.pdf

History of Unemployment Insurance in the United States

In 1932, in the midst of the Great Depression, Wisconsin became the first state in the U.S. to enact an unemployment insurance law.

Six other states enacted UI laws prior to the Social Security Act of 1935 - CA, MA, NH, NY, UT, and WA.

At approximately 3:30 p.m. on Wednesday, August 14, 1935, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt signed into law the Social Security Act, which contained provisions for old age insurance, welfare, and unemployment insurance.

The enactment of the Social Security Act was the first major step towards establishing Unemployment Insurance programs in the United States; it encouraged states to adopt their
own Unemployment Insurance laws.

The program took time for states to impl ement. Wisconsin issued the first unemployment check in the amount of $15 to Neils B. Ruud of Madison, Wisconsin on August 17, 1936.

In May 1937 the Supreme Court upheld the Social Security Act as constitutional and by August 1937, the 48 states, Alaska, Hawaii, and the District of Columbia had enacted their own Unemployment Insurance laws.


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#1431760 - 01/07/14 12:47 PM Re: House Repubs cut benefits to 1.3 MILLION Americans [Re: kyle585]
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3. Senate Democrats Unsure If They Can Find Four Republicans Who'll Vote To Extend Unemployment Benefits — That('s) Four, Not Forty
Senate Democrats are expected to vote unanimously to extend unemployment benefits for another three months, giving the bill 55 votes, plus one from its Republican co-sponsor Sen. Dean Heller. This means that four additional Republican votes will be needed for the bill to pass. So, that bill is probably not going to pass.
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#1431766 - 01/07/14 01:33 PM Re: House Repubs cut benefits to 1.3 MILLION Americans [Re: twocats]
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The Senate narrowly voted Tuesday to advance a temporary extension of unemployment benefits to over one million jobless Americans, giving some unexpected momentum in the new year to Democrats and the Obama administration.

The vote to move forward with the legislation was 60-37. With six Republicans and all present Democrats backing the move to begin formal debate on the bill, supporters reached the 60 votes required to advance it with no room to spare.

The measure, sponsored by Republican Dean Heller of Nevada and Democrat Jack Reed of Rhode Island, would have retroactively restored the federal aid payments to about 1.3 million long-term unemployed Americans that expired at the end of last year. That aid had previously kicked in after state benefits expired, after about 26 months or more in most states.
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Five Republicans joined Heller to support moving forward on the legislation -- Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire, Dan Coats of Indiana and Rob Portman of Ohio. Those lawmakers -- who said they want leaders to find a way to offset the cost of the federal benefits -- may not support final passage of the bill. But their support Tuesday kept the legislation alive despite last-minute doubts that the procedural vote would pass.

"It was in the balance until the last minute," Reed told reporters after the vote.

If the final bill does pass the Senate, it's not clear that the GOP-led House will take it up. House Republican leaders have painted the current proposal as fiscally irresponsible.
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#1431769 - 01/07/14 01:44 PM Re: House Repubs cut benefits to 1.3 MILLION Americans [Re: kyle585]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/...mpathy-gap?lite

After losing the 2012 presidential election, after that 47% comment, and after a majority of voters (according to the exit polls) said that Mitt Romney’s policies favored the rich, Republicans acknowledged that they needed to close the empathy gap with Democrats. “The Republican Party must be the champion of those who seek to climb the economic ladder of life,” the RNC declared in its post-election autopsy. But the GOP didn’t come close to meeting that goal in 2013.

This is exactly why republicans are on the endangered species list. They don't learn from their mistakes.
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#1431771 - 01/07/14 01:49 PM Re: House Repubs cut benefits to 1.3 MILLION Americans [Re: Josephus]
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Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/...mpathy-gap?lite

After losing the 2012 presidential election, after that 47% comment, and after a majority of voters (according to the exit polls) said that Mitt Romney’s policies favored the rich, Republicans acknowledged that they needed to close the empathy gap with Democrats. “The Republican Party must be the champion of those who seek to climb the economic ladder of life,” the RNC declared in its post-election autopsy. But the GOP didn’t come close to meeting that goal in 2013.

This is exactly why republicans are on the endangered species list. They don't learn from their mistakes.


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#1431778 - 01/07/14 02:24 PM Re: House Repubs cut benefits to 1.3 MILLION Americans [Re: Formermac]
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Originally Posted By: Josephus
Originally Posted By: kyle585
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/...mpathy-gap?lite

After losing the 2012 presidential election, after that 47% comment, and after a majority of voters (according to the exit polls) said that Mitt Romney’s policies favored the rich, Republicans acknowledged that they needed to close the empathy gap with Democrats. “The Republican Party must be the champion of those who seek to climb the economic ladder of life,” the RNC declared in its post-election autopsy. But the GOP didn’t come close to meeting that goal in 2013.

This is exactly why republicans are on the endangered species list. They don't learn from their mistakes.


Those that fail to learn from their mistakes are doomed to repeat them.

... or go out of existence all together. In this case, they'll probably morph into some other conservative party with other conservatives like the left overs from the Tea Party... exactly how the Republican Party came into being 160 years ago.
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#1431781 - 01/07/14 03:11 PM Re: House Repubs cut benefits to 1.3 MILLION Americans [Re: bluezone]
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Originally Posted By: Timbo

1.3 Million Americans Lose Jobless Benefits
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"because the needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few."

would that be the few or the many?

That would be a non sequitur.
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